N800 Web browser quit working
The Web browser on my N800 has stopped working. It loads, activates the Updating message, and then does nothing. There are no logged errors, and running it from the command line produces no error messages. A couple of weeks ago, an alternative (Webkit?) browser appeared in one of the repositories; I installed it, but it didn't work, so I removed it. Is there a recommended way to fix/reinstall the standard browser? Or should I just back up my personal data and re-flash the unit? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: IRC for OS2008
Ryan Abel wrote: On Jul 5, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Steve Yelvington wrote: The telepathy and rtcomm upgrades I installed the other day included support for IRC, but all I get when I configure for irc.freenode.net is a network error. Is there some nonobvious trick to setting up IRC? I found Xchat for Maemo, but it's for an older version and won't install. You do realize XChat is available in Diablo Extras, right? I have the following catalog enabled in the application manager: Catalog name: maemo Extras Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ Distribution: diablo Components: free non-free ... and XChat does not appear anywhere. I suppose I'm stating the obvious and preaching to the choir, but there are WAY too many repositories and WAY too little organization. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: IRC for OS2008
Faheem Pervez wrote: It's in extras-devel. Aha ... yet another repository! Figured out how to get it enabled, and now I have not only Xchat, but Abiword. Thanks, it'll help me outgeek my iPhone friends. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
IRC for OS2008
The telepathy and rtcomm upgrades I installed the other day included support for IRC, but all I get when I configure for irc.freenode.net is a network error. Is there some nonobvious trick to setting up IRC? I found Xchat for Maemo, but it's for an older version and won't install. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
AOL, Gtalk, XMPP gateways, other servers
Has anybody had success in connecting the built-in XMPP/Gtalk client to AOL/AIM? Supposedly AOL has a test gateway of their own (xmpp.oscar.aol.com): http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/AOL_Alpha ... but it's not working for me. I know Pidgin works just fine, but the Gtalk client is lightweight and starts automatically. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: AOL, Gtalk, XMPP gateways, other servers
Perfect! It took a bit of downloading and rebooting, but now I can declare independence from Pidgin and recover some space. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Dictionary adventures
In prep for a trip to Asia next week I thought I'd take a look at the various dictionary programs that have appeared since the last time I seriously examined the repositories. MDictionary looks quite nice but I'm not interested in Finnish. It does not seem to understand .dct files. I followed a link from the MDictionary web page and downloaded a couple of dictionaries that are compressed using bzip2 format but they won't load, and I don't seem to have a bunzip2 for IT2008. Stardict doesn't come with any dictionaries, but directs me to a Sourceforge site to download some. However, I can find nothing in the Stardict UI that lets me load a file after it's been downloaded. Sdict Viewer almost wins the prize ... I was able to find an English-Thai dictionary and load it into Sdict Viewer... But unfortunately the results are in Thai script, and the N800 won't display Thai script. All I get is little blocks with character codes indicated. Not that I can read Thai script anyway, but at least I could show the search result to the guy at the food cart. So it looks like I'll just point and gesture a lot. :-) My goal is to travel for two weeks without lugging my Macbook. I have the N800, iGo keyboard, and a 20-gig drive that plugs directly into my camera. That and a debit card should keep me going. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 European Power Adapter
Kip Warner wrote: I bought my N810 in Canada, and so it uses a standard North American power adapter. Is it easy to acquire one usable in Europe from over there? If so, how much are they, and can they be used all across Europe? The light gray print on your power supply should have its specs, and AFAIK they're all 100-240V, 50-60Hz, so one power supply will work anywhere. (It's actually quite difficult to find any that aren't internationally flexible these days.) Get yourself a plug adaptor kit (just plugs, not the transformer kind) and you're set. I've used my American unit in France, Germany and Spain, and will be taking it to China, Malaysia and Thailand next month. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: hardshell cases
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been mentioned before: cases for the Nintendo DS work for the N800. You might even get to try one at your local videogame store before you buy it. I haven't tried it myself yet, but I've been planning to. I have a book-style zippered Nintendo DS case that was only something like 7 dollars at Wal-Mart. It's just a bit oversized -- not enough to slip anything extra inside, though -- and the result is too big to be pocketable, but it's a good protective kit for dropping into my backpack along with my foldable Bluetooth keyboard and my portable Wi-Fi access point. Before I bought it, I considered various organizer and paper notebook binders that had been recommended but didn't find anything appropriate. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How do i uninstall the default Email program?
Peter Flynn wrote: It's unfortunate that Nokia didn't try to learn from other attempts at Linux-based pocket devices, notably the Sharp Zaurus, where the same problem occurred. Or the Mac, for that matter. I'd love to send Mail.app on a one-way boat to hades but Apple has tangled it up with iCalendar. A workspace manager (window and desktop just don't seem to be the right metaphors any more) should have clean plug-in interfaces to key apps like mail, calendar, and users should be able to switch. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia buys Trolltech
Now, this is interesting. http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!
Since adding GSM capability would bulk up the basic unit, it seems that perhaps an external GSM enabler would be a good move. Connect via Bluetooth. Maybe even make it work as a speaker/mike, so I don't have to wave the Internet tablet around in the air to use the phone. It might look like this: http://www.nokiahowto.com/link?cid=EDITORIAL_217558 There are compromises to be made whether you take the integrated route (a la iPhone) or the component route (a la Nokia). I have an N800, a phone, a foldup keyboard and I'm contemplating a tiny GPS receiver, all communicating via Bluetooth. Each is optimized for its purpose and I only carry that parts that I want at the moment. The downside is that I have a lot of parts. The iPhone owner has a different set of compromises to make; the virtual keyboard sucks, the GPS-like GSM tower triangulation is interesting but inaccurate, and as a phone it's not nearly as rugged and pocketable as my clamshell. And it's a closed system. I'd be more than happy to see Nokia offer an all-in-one device but I sure would prefer to continue to be offered the choice. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Modest crashes
I updated Modest last night, connected and fetched mail. However, it later began immediately crashing when invoked. I've tried removing/reinstalling the application and deleting the .modest directory. Any other advice? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Modest crashes
Jonathan Greene wrote: When it gets wonky for me, I find even thought it looks like it's not running there's still an active process which needs to be killed. Once that's gone, I can usually restart Modest without (immediate) issue. I've had that issue as well, and find the system load applet indispensable in tracking down and killing the offending process. But this problem seems to be different; I see no modest task running. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Modest crashes
Krischan Keitsch wrote: I had a problem with Modest after upgrading to 1.0-2008.02-2. I filed a bug report [1]. If your problem is related to this bug you could comment it. [1] https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2715 My issue doesn't involve a secure connection, so I opened a new bug. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2727 Running modest showui from the command line generates an error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c:603 _dl_open: Assertion '_dl_debug_initialize(0, args.nsid)-r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Is the iGo Stowaway Ultra-Slim compatible with the n800?
Mine arrived yesterday. There's a bit of keyboard lag that I'm attributing to the OS, not the keyboard. The unit is very sturdy and seems to be of high quality. Has anybody experimented with X11 key bindings to take advantage of the Stowaway's function keys? Also, does anybody have advice on getting the gummy adhesive off the keys and the sticker off the back? The moron at iGo who decided to glue the opening/closing instructions to the unit should be fired before he/she does further damage. BTW, when I looked yesterday the price at Amazon was up to $60. Still, that's something like half the original price. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Will repository.maemo.org be fixed?
Jonathan Greene wrote: An interesting and very temporary alternative Yes, I tried to set the IP address of the repository manually in /etc/hosts. Unfortunately * gainroot is not installed * ssh is installed and it reconfigured my root password -- the password I provided does not work Sigh. Fortunately I run a Linux box that provides internal DNS services to my network at home, so I will probably try adding the Maemo address to that system in hopes of escaping the clutches of the broken Akamai caches. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available
- modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program I would very much like to ditch the official email program in every possible way. Can it be uninstalled? I'm willing to edit files in order to do so. One of my biggest complaints against OSX is the inability to rid one's self of the truly awful standard Apple email program. Nokia/Maemo should not make the same mistake. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Noob Questions
dnsmasq has all grown up since last time I looked at the manpage, but won't this do what you're seeking? *S, --local, --server=[/[domain]/[domain/]][ipaddr[#port][@source[#port]]]* Specify IP address of upstream servers directly. Setting this flag does not suppress reading of /etc/resolv.conf, use -R to do that. If one or more optional domains are given, that server is used only for those domains and they are queried only using the specified server. This is intended for private nameservers: if you have a nameserver on your network which deals with names of the form xxx.internal.thekelleys.org.uk at 192.168.1.1 then giving the flag *-S /internal.thekelleys.org.uk/192.168.1.1 * will send all queries for internal machines to that nameserver, everything else will go to the servers in /etc/resolv.conf. An empty domain specification, *// * has the special meaning of unqualified names only ie names without any dots in them. A non-standard port may be specified as part of the IP address using a # character. More than one -S flag is allowed, with repeated domain or ipaddr parts as required. Also permitted is a -S flag which gives a domain but no IP address; this tells dnsmasq that a domain is local and it may answer queries from /etc/hosts or DHCP but should never forward queries on that domain to any upstream servers. *local* is a synonym for *server* to make configuration files clearer in this case. The optional second IP address after the @ character tells dnsmasq how to set the source address of the queries to this nameserver. It should be an address belonging to the machine on which dnsmasq is running otherwise this server line will be logged and then ignored. The query-port flag is ignored for any servers which have a source address specified but the port may be specified directly as part of the source address. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Flashing from powerpc and linux
digger vermont wrote: It doesn't look like it can yet flash the image as a whole. But it can unpack the it into pieces as: 2nd, kernel, rootfs, xloader, initfs, secondary I don't know anything about the powerpc, but I flashed my N800 from an Intel Macintosh with the early N810 image of OS2008 by using the cnet blog's instructions. That included unpacking a whole mess of components first. I later reflashed using the beta release of OS2008 for the N800, using my daughter's Linux laptop. In that case I did a unitary upload without first unpacking anything. Worked fine. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs
Laurent GUERBY wrote: - when selecting a wifi connection the list refreshes and moves all the time: in a street in Paris with about 50 signals it's nearly impossible to select something down the list, refresh sends cursor back to beginning of list every second or so (Searching never goes away). I had that problem with OS2007 as well. - I'm not able to activate the virtual finger keyboard using my finger: internet search, web browser, application manager (forms), xterm input areas when thumb pressed seem to always show the virtual stylet keyboard. Only notes seems to detect properly a finger touch within its (larger) input area and opens the finger keyboard. Definitely verified. Pushing the square navigation button pops up the fatfinger keyboard. - I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in keys where after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the HOME button was inactive and I had to remove the battery or shutdown through remote ssh. This is with unmodified systemui.xml. Have not encountered this problem. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Outgoing mail problem
Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: It seems that the mail client append @outgoing.mail.host to my user name which my outgoing mail host doesn't like at all. Can you be more specific about the conditions under which this happens? Does this happen during the SMTP conversation, and if so, exactly where? I have not had any issues with my N800 not properly conversing with an SMTP host either with the default mail client, or with Claws. I'm currently using Claws, mailing out through an authenticated EasyDNS.com relay on an alternative (high numbered) port. No problems. EasyDNS runs Postfix. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Jon Dodson wrote: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. The normal USB setup is for mounting the N800's SD cards as drives on a PC. There's been some discussion on this list of running the N800 in host mode, but that would require some cable magic and I'm unclear about the success rate. If anyone has been able to plug the N800 into a digital camera I'd love to hear about it. Any experience with something like this? http://www.delkin.com/products/connect/usbbridge/ do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? Haven't tried. The N800 has worked with every set of wired headphones I've used, though. battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead while playing Aisle Riot. does the battery life degrade over time badly? Not so far. The battery is a standard removable/replaceable Nokia BP-5L, which runs $30 to $50 at online retailers. did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). Not so far. But I haven't stocked it up with video. I am using the internal card primarily for swap and the external SD for media files. how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws mail). I think the upcoming revision of the UI (created for the 810) is a significant visual improvement and look forward to the upgrade. In general, I use mine pretty much as a toy, for checking mail and looking up stuff on Google/Wikipedia while wandering around, and for Skype. Being able to call home practically free from Europe while not having to drag out the laptop was very nice. When I can't find an open wifi point, the N800 easily connects through my Nokia cellphone to T-Mobile's EDGE/GPRS network. Setting that up took about 90 seconds and all the T-Mobile magic was preconfigured for me. Most network providers are included. VERY well done! Overall, though, if I had no laptop I'd make that my first priority, especially with Wal-Mart selling a basic Acer for about the same price as I paid for my N800. The very small form factor of the N800 has advantages, but I find it much too small for any extended work. YMMV. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 with Gizmo and GrandCentral (n800?)
I didn't know about the mobile GrandCentral interface until it was mentioned here. I guessed (m.grandcentral.com) and found it. The mobile interface causes the N800 to pop up a dialog offering to play the MP3 file using the default media player. When I do that, the media player opens, but no file is played. I don't get an error message. More detective work is in order. Under Windows, Firefox invokes my media player just fine; under Ubuntu, ditto, although I had to install additional codecs to play MP3. The regular Flash-driven GrandCentral interface works on my N800, although it's irritating and slow. I wish GC offered a simplified UI that restricted its use of Flash to where it makes sense (the audio player), and didn't demand such a ridiculously wide screen. I'll probably switch to the mobile UI on my desktop browser. :-) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 3 months of use: some comments about the N800
Eero Tamminen wrote: There's plastic film on top of the screen. If you haven't removed this, the scratches are in this film, not the actual screen surface. One of the guys at work has discovered PSP screen protectors can be adapted to the N800 fairly easily. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
I was surprised that the reviewer had troubles getting online through Bluetooth and a mobile phone, as that's one of the coolest and easiest things about the N800. By contrast, getting either Windows or OS X to connect via GPRS can be hellishly difficult. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Python 2.5 fixed
For those of you who reflashed and have been butting heads with the Python 2.5 install due to a missing libffl, it's been fixed. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Improvements in the browser (was Re: 4.2007.38-2 available)
I thought the browser tab thing was an urban legend, but it turns out they're there, and probably agnostic to the HTML engine. Last item in the dropdown menu is Advanced,where you choose the browser engine, and among its (new?) entries is View with options for tab, box and window. However, in tab mode the tabs are placed on the left side of the screen, eating valuable layout space. There also is a policy choice that lets you control Javascript for Google separately from the global settings. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Paging Dr. Moebius
Josh Smith wrote: I just used apt-get in xterm: become root in xterm apt-get install ssh say yes to any questions that you are asked I got a chuckle out of this, because the only way I've become root is to ssh to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Yeah, I know there's a package. Somewhere. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Aisleriot broken
I'd put this into Bugzilla if I could figure out a category, or contact the maintainer if I could find an email address. Aisleriot won't install. The main .deb file is in the collection, but the helpfile and card themes are missing. Here is the output of apt-get install aisleriot: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: aisleriot: Depends: aisleriot-card-theme-paris but it is not installable or aisleriot-card-theme-bellot but it is not installable or aisleriot-card-theme-ornamental but it is not installable or aisleriot-card-theme-dondorf but it is not installable or aisleriot-card-theme-anglo but it is not installable Depends: aisleriot-help-en (= 1:2.20.0bis-1) but it is not installable or aisleriot-help-es (= 1:2.20.0bis-1) but it is not installable or aisleriot-help-fr (= 1:2.20.0bis-1) but it is not installable E: Broken packages ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Canola never finds any media
The problem is not with Canola per se, but rather with the overall sloppy condition of the Maemo repositories, both on maemo.org and on other sites. Software often depends on other packages not in the same repository, and that's not documented or handled in any graceful way. So long as you stick to the three or four official Nokia applications, you're fine. As soon as you try to install anything you find listed on maemo.org, you're venturing into dangerous territory. Trying to install Doom will muck up your entire system, as Application Manager will no longer be able to update repositories. I just reflashed, and the first app from maemo.org I tried to install was the kagu media player. Can't do it. Application packages missing: libsdl-ttf, libgdbm3, libcurses5, libreadline4. Where are they? No telling, but they're not in the repository specified in the .install file (maemo extras). My bet is that they're in maemo-hackers, but Application Manager can't figure that out. Nor should it have to. This is particularly difficult for developers to handle because they're developing on machines that are all tricked out with extra libraries and -- here's the real problem -- they have to /know/ where those libraries came from. None of the Linux application installation toolkits (on any platform) is particularly good at helping you figure that stuff out. So when a package gets built, critical details like these get dropped on the floor. The answer might be more testing, but bugzilla isn't a warm and friendly way to invite new users to submit issues. If my bugzilla password ever arrives in email, I'll be long gone onto another project and will have forgotten the bug I wanted to report. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Canola never finds any media
José Luís wrote: Recently, I have this problem too. This is because, canola's installation was no successfully finished . This happen in the installation of avahi-daemon (canola dependency), because he try to access /etc/shadow file, but is not present in the n800 device. To solve this I used xterm to create a /etc/shadow file based on /etc/passwd (see shadow file in any linux distribution, for details) . After creation of /etc/shadow file, you can use the command apt-get install -f, to fix canola's installation. This is probably my problem. After posting my note last night, I ran apt-get from the command line (to install wget) and discovered a number of unprocessed configuration scripts, including avahi-daemon. To get avahi running I had to create both a user and a group. At this point I'm probably going to have to reflash the unit over the weekend and start over, as I have managed to foul up Application Manager, which opens a window but won't run. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Canola several times from the command line and undoubtedly have created a mess. I got as far as Canola finding the files but refusing to play any of them, but eventually fell back to the no-files problem. I've only had this thing for a week. Consider it a dry run. :-) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
