Re: Swap space: how is it allocated / released?

2008-01-02 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 01:58 -0800, ext Denis DeLaRoca wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How's swap space allocated on the internal SD card on IT OS? I thought it 
 was by means of a separate partition but when mounting the SD card on 
 Destop linux system (via USB) only a single 'msdos' partition is shown.

There's a swapfile called .swap on the card.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk$ ls -alh .swap 
-rwx-- 1 tigert root 128M 2007-10-25 08:51 .swap

//T


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Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)

2007-12-18 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:54 +0200, Igor Stoppa wrote:

 That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface
 - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is
 comparable.
 
 Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use
 it :-)
 
 Does it show any message, like Not Charging, when you plug in the fake
 charger?

Yeah, it said not charging.

It *could be* that I remember wrong. And of course I have thrown that
one away already since I lost the converter cable from large to small
plug, and the charger was cheaper than a new one :) - would have been
useful to check the specs on the label.

//T



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Re: OS2008: .bashrc or .bash_profile?

2007-12-17 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 15:44 +0200, ext Marius Gedminas wrote:
  curious.  Does the IT do colors?
 
 You mean the terminal emulator?  Yes, it does.  It does many things,
 including, e.g., vim's mouse support.

Yep, it's using the vte terminal widget  that is the same as
gnome-terminal

Irssi + screen via ssh to my home server work nicely and are my main use
case of the terminal :-)

//T


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Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)

2007-12-17 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:56 -0800, ext Joshua Layne wrote:
 they have had warranty issues on it.  However, a brief search on google
 shows some fly-by-night places that have it for really cheap (like a few
 dollars), so I may just pick up a replacement and a spare for the office./;

Beware that some of the cheap noname ones might have different voltages
- one of my 12V car chargers for example does not charge my N800 at all.
It charges 770's and phones just fine.

//T

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Re: Disappearing Widgets.

2007-12-17 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote:
 Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big A** Font) 
 the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as dependencies don't 
 match.  
 
 You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch 
 batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans widgets.  
 Visual only the function remains.

Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not seen this
ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting effects while we
were hacking on the theme config stuff when developing it)

If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will cause
nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you installed
something that touched the theme files.

You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or does it
happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure this out is to try
to narrow down the cases when it happens..?

The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, and note
down *everything* you install and see if it happens again. 

//Tuomas


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Re: further beating on OS2008 beta

2007-11-29 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 01:49 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote:
 
 Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple 
 windows?   Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you 
 can't resize and move between them easily.  Tabs afforded the ability 
 to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10 
 tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt. 

Because the platform style is multiple windows. And tabs wasted quite a
lot of *terminal window* space. Also if you have 10 tabs, you cannot see
pretty much anything relevant from the tab titles. Sure your case of 10
tabs is a bit special too - maybe you could just use screen instead?

Multiple windows is consistent with the rest of the platform. I also
think it makes sense for the same reason the browser does not have tabs:
Tabs work a lot better in a large desktop where you can drag windows
around and group some of them together. Since everything is fullscreen,
tabs would just duplicate the function of the window switcher. You
probably won't have *that* many apps open at once in a tablet anyway
compared to a desktop computer anyway.

 Why did they move the button bar to the bottom.  Down there is 
 steals valuable screen real-estate from you.

It steals screen estate no matter where it is. The bottom-one is (again)
consistent with the rest of the device, and it is easier to reach with
fingers (remember the N810 has the keyboard so you hold it a bit
differently in your hands!)

You can also hide the whole toolbar if you want.

 Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font color 
 into two different locations in the settings gui?

This is in the we'll laugh over this when we are old -category. ;)

 Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button bar?  
 Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c ... now 
 it's 5.  cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen  during this time the 
 keyboard closes 2 or 3 times.  This can make vi a real PITA too.

Because a lot of stuff works differently with the physical keyboard. And
because I have no clue if the input method works differently on the N800
with N810 OS release shoehorned into it? :-)

 Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view it 
 as sterility a muti-media toy.  To me it's my #1 tool for doing my 
 job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive.  Sorry if I sound ranty I don't 
 mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic changes were made to 
 a really good app.

The bottom line is: there is still the old one you can just rebuild for
os2008 if it hasnt been built yet, and use that. We just made a version
that could be shipped with the N810 for convenience.

Also, the source is in garage as osso-xterm, so go and tweak it to your
liking if you wish. I think all this new UI stuff is in the
ui-rework-branch.

//Tuomas


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Re: n800 user reviews

2007-11-01 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 17:29 -0700, ext DrFredC.com wrote:

 after a reboot.  I tried to locate the RSS files on my Nokia to see if
 perhaps deleting something might clear things up, but couldn't find
 where the RSS stuff is located.

It's in /home/user/.osso_rss_feed_reader/feedlist.opml if I remember
correctly.

//T


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Re: Brick after battery dying?

2007-10-30 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 14:39 +, ext Alan Williamson wrote:

 2. The device does not charge; i plug in the power supply and nothing! 
 i have to wiggle and *sometimes* it churps that the battery is charging

That sounds like a broken charger plug. Try a different charger?

//T


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Re: need a community board?

2007-10-30 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 18:34 +, ext Steve Greenland wrote:

 More seriously: if you think that email is primitive and the various
 forum systems are superior, you simply haven't been introduced to the
 right tools, tools that have been developed for years specifically to
 handle large volumes of list mail.

Or we can just face it: we're getting old and then new generation is
enjoying different ways. :-)

Boards serve some purposes pretty nicely I must admit. Namely the to
follow XYZ, go to site XYZ, no matter what device you have, as long as
it has a browser. 

//T

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Re: N800 Power Problems

2007-08-27 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:

 In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
 the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
 charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
 luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
 it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
 again. 

Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]

The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
plug is not working reliably anymore.

//Tuomas


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Re: problems with themes and the new release.

2007-07-09 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 09:32 -0400, ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
 From the various e-mail, it appears there are issues with this release
 - think I'll hold off updating... 

For the themes, there are some changes from the previous version - If I
remember correctly, the only change is the new tab toolbar of the
media player. With the old Plankton the tabs just wont show it seems,
due to missing bitmaps and it probably falls back to the default toolbar
style. Other than that the theme should pretty much work.

I will try to do an updated Plankton release during GUADEC conference
next week, as unfortunately I am busy with other things right now.

(yes, also it would be a good idea to put it in the repository one of
these days of copious extra time.. :)

//Tuomas


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