Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-20 Thread Jussi Kukkonen
On Sun, 2006-02-19, Primorec wrote:
 Upgrading the 770 firmware did NOT make any difference in regard to my
 basic problem. Connection is lost after 2-3 minutes of browsing.
 BUT if I listen to Internet radio,  the WiFi connection between 770
 and WRTG54GL is rock solid.
...
 Any other hint is very welcome

Constantly pinging from the device works too (yes, I know this wasn't
the kind of hint you were hoping for). There is a bug for this in the
maemo bugzilla: 
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329  
Add yourself to the CC list to keep yourself informed.

It seems this is _not_ related to the brand or model of the router (at
least not only): My 770 constantly drops connections at my home network
while my friend had no such problems with his device on the same
network... 

Also, Patrik Flykt (@Nokia) said Yesterday we finally received two
units that drop wlan connections. We are investigating the issue. (This
was three-four weeks ago)


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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-20 Thread inode0
On 2/20/06, Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems this is _not_ related to the brand or model of the router (at
 least not only): My 770 constantly drops connections at my home network
 while my friend had no such problems with his device on the same
 network...

It does seem to be related to the WAP in my case. At work I can use it
fine with a variety of access points, all 802.11b. At home it works
fine with a Netgear MR814 but exhibits the disconnect bug with a
Linksys WRT54GS using WPA or WEP. All the access points I use
broadcast SSID.

John
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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-20 Thread Primorec

On 2/20/06, Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Constantly pinging from the device works too (yes, I know this wasn'tthe kind of hint you were hoping for). 
hmmm strange... when I type in the xterm 'ping' I get back:
sh: ping not found

'ping' is just a symbolic link to the busybox.

When I type 'busybox' at command line I get

Currently defined functions:
 [, ash, basename, busybox, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown,
 chroot, chvt, clear, cmp, cp, cut, date, dd, df, dirname,
 dmesg, du, echo, egrep, env, expr, false, fgrep, find,
 free, getty, grep, gunzip, gzip, head, hostname, id,
 ifconfig, ifdown, ifup, insmod, kill, killall, ln, logger,
 login, ls, lsmod, mkdir, mkfifo, mknod, mkswap, mktemp,
 modprobe, more, mount, mv, netstat, nslookup, pivot_root,
 printf, ps, pwd, realpath, renice, reset, rm, rmdir,
 rmmod, route, run-parts, sed, seq, sh, sleep, sort,
 stty, su, swapoff, swapon, sync, tail, tar, tee, test,
 time, top, touch, tr, true, tty, umount, uname, uniq,
 uptime, wc, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat

There is NO ping on the list. Do I have to recompile busybox to include ping ?
[which will require to create a ARM/meamo SDK environment.. a lot of work..
especially for newbie like me]

Or, is there a simples solution to get ping.
There is a bug for this in themaemo bugzilla:

https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329Add yourself to the CC list to keep yourself informed.
Thanks for the link. I've added myself to the CC list. 
Also, Patrik Flykt (@Nokia) said Yesterday we finally received two
units that drop wlan connections. We are investigating the issue. (This
was three-four weeks ago)
I hope he (or they) at Nokia will find a solution or, perhaps, a simpler (read nicer) 
workaround soon. 
Why I am saying this ?
Because 3 of my co-workers are impressed with 770 and they want to order it.
I do not want them to be disappointed because of such a basic bug(s).

Regards

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-20 Thread Luca Donaggio
2006/2/21, Primorec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 2/20/06, Jussi Kukkonen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Constantly pinging from the device works too (yes, I know this wasn'tthe kind of hint you were hoping for). 
hmmm strange... when I type in the xterm 'ping' I get back:
sh: ping not found

'ping' is just a symbolic link to the busybox.

When I type 'busybox' at command line I get

Currently defined functions:
 [, ash, basename, busybox, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown,
 chroot, chvt, clear, cmp, cp, cut, date, dd, df, dirname,
 dmesg, du, echo, egrep, env, expr, false, fgrep, find,
 free, getty, grep, gunzip, gzip, head, hostname, id,
 ifconfig, ifdown, ifup, insmod, kill, killall, ln, logger,
 login, ls, lsmod, mkdir, mkfifo, mknod, mkswap, mktemp,
 modprobe, more, mount, mv, netstat, nslookup, pivot_root,
 printf, ps, pwd, realpath, renice, reset, rm, rmdir,
 rmmod, route, run-parts, sed, seq, sh, sleep, sort,
 stty, su, swapoff, swapon, sync, tail, tar, tee, test,
 time, top, touch, tr, true, tty, umount, uname, uniq,
 uptime, wc, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat

There is NO ping on the list. Do I have to recompile busybox to include ping ?
[which will require to create a ARM/meamo SDK environment.. a lot of work..
especially for newbie like me]

Or, is there a simples solution to get ping.Install the iputils deb from the Application Catalog; anyway, you'll need to be root to execute the ping command.
There is a bug for this in themaemo bugzilla:


https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329Add yourself to the CC list to keep yourself informed.
Thanks for the link. I've added myself to the CC list. 
Also, Patrik Flykt (@Nokia) said Yesterday we finally received two
units that drop wlan connections. We are investigating the issue. (This
was three-four weeks ago)
I hope he (or they) at Nokia will find a solution or, perhaps, a simpler (read nicer) 
workaround soon. 
Why I am saying this ?
Because 3 of my co-workers are impressed with 770 and they want to order it.
I do not want them to be disappointed because of such a basic bug(s).

Regards

Igor
--  I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-19 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le dimanche 19 février 2006 à 01:48 -0800, Primorec a écrit :
 I do not posses MS WINDOWS PC in my household... and I do not
 have any plans to invest any money into MS WINDOWS in the near future
 
  so.. I do not have a lot of choices .. I have to re-flash the
 firmware using LINUX.
 
 Is it possible to upgrade the firmware on 770 using LINUX ?

Just download the bin file on the web page and use the procedure written
at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux

PS: and next time, please, respond under quoted text and to the
mailing-list..

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-19 Thread Primorec
On 2/19/06, Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade the firmware on 770 using LINUX ?Just download the bin file on the web page and use the procedure writtenat 
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux
thanks
PS: and next time, please, respond under quoted text and to themailing-list..

I am using 'gmail' as my mail client (web client)... I could not find a setting which
would change default quoting for the 'gmail' sorry ;-)
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OT: Quoting (was Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost)

2006-02-19 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 2/19/06, Primorec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/19/06, Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  PS: and next time, please, respond under quoted text and to the
  mailing-list..

  I am using 'gmail' as my mail client (web client)...  I could not find
 a setting which would change default quoting for the 'gmail'   sorry ;-)

In Gmail:

  * Click More Options and then Reply All.
  * Position your cursor in the message area, trim the portions not
relevant to your reply and then enter your new message *after* the
one which you're quoting. By default, the cursor will be placed at
the top of the message, with some excess blank lines. These will
have to be corrected manually.

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-19 Thread Primorec
On 2/19/06, Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 15:31 -0800, Primorec a écrit : Any hint/trick/advice/solution is more than welcome. 770's firmware version 2.2005.45-7You should REALLY upgrade your 770 firmware to the latest firmware
(3.2005.51-13) available onhttp://europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,79636,00.html (Europe) or
http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,770,00.html(USA), since it fixes many issues with Wifi (and other stuff as well).Frédéric Crozat - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Upgrading the 770 firmware did NOT make any difference in regard to my 
basic problem. Connection is lost after 2-3 minutes of browsing.
BUT if I listen to Internet radio, the WiFi connection between 770 and WRTG54GL
is rock solid.

ooops.. I am mistaken... there is a difference...
I am NOT getting on the screen the message 'Connection lost' .
Connection is lost without the warning pop up window but 
the real problem is still there

And there are other changes/improvements. 770 is a lot more responsive,
no more messages 'Memory low.. please close application (or something
similar along the same lines). So it was worth the upgrade 770 from 45-7 to 51-13.

Any other hint is very welcome

Regards

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-19 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Primorec escreveu:

 Upgrading the 770 firmware did NOT make any difference in regard to my
 basic problem. Connection is lost after 2-3 minutes of browsing.
 BUT if I listen to Internet radio,  the WiFi connection between 770 and
 WRTG54GL
 is rock solid.

Hi there.

I don't know if this can help but I do have exactly the same router here
and works flawlessly with the 770. The only thing that might be
different from  your setup is that I'm not using the original Linksys
firmware but the alternative ones OpenWtr and dd-wrt. I don't know if
makes any difference but the change of firmware worth the change by itself.

[]s

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-19 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Primorec escreveu:

 Yes, I know...   this thread
 http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-January/000566.html
  http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-January/000569.html
 describes very similar problem with similar solution like your proposal.
 The router in this case is Linksys  GS model (not GL)
 
 Is the setup interface for OpenWrt (dd-wrt) similar to the original
 Linksys firmware ?
 I mean, is there a browser based setup interface ?
 In other words, is the setup interface OS independent ?
 
 Do you have handy instruction (or , perhaps a URL)  for HOWTO reflash
 Linksys WRTG54GL
 and remain sane ( aka a working WiFi router )

Hi.

Those firmwares are very handy and much more powerfull than the original
ones and they do have a web interface, the dd-wrt specially.
I have a G model, neither GS nor GL. I don't know if the alternative
firmwares will work on those models, specially the GS. I suggest you
consult the websites of those projects to know.

[]s

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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-18 Thread Laurent GUERBY
Did you set in Control Panel / Connectivity / Idle times (second tab) /
Packet data and WLAN Idle time to Unlimited?

I have an ASUS WL500GX (Linux inside too) and have no trouble
maintaining browsing for tens of minutes. 

After a while (about one hour UI idle) it drops the connection though,
even if I ssh to it every minute from a desktop machine, this is an
issue but it looks different from yours.

Sincerely,

Laurent

On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 15:31 -0800, Primorec wrote:
 Hi,
 
 One month ago I've received my tablet and 10 days ago I've received
 Linksys WRTG54GL router. Yes, this is a Linux based router.
 For the last 10 days I am trying to establish reliable wireless
 connection between the tablet and the router to no avail.
 The tablet looses the connection with the router every few  minutes
 (or even less).
 So, browsing the net is not very pleasant experience.
 Or is such a behavior a 'feature' (aka saving power for the TX/RX
 subsystem after minute of no activity)
 If it IS the feature, then I would like to know how to disable it. I
 am willing to sacrifice battery life for
 smoother web browsing.
 
 It does not matter if I am very close to the AP or far away from it.
 
 I've found two workarounds for my problem:
 
 A) workaround ONE
 ==
 By  selecting automatic connection the problem goes partially away
 Control Panel == Connectivity == Connections == check 'Use without
 asking'
 Result is somehow acceptable. Every few minutes I have to wait a
 little bit longer
 to get the web page I clicked on. 770 is reconnecting in the
 background.
 
 B) workaround TWO
 ===
 Starting Internet Radio (AccuRadio HitKast)
 Having Internet radio up and running all the time, WEB browsing is a
 PLEASANT experience.
 NO more 'Connection lost' messages
 
 Is there a better way to solve this problem ?
 
 Any hint/trick/advice/solution is more than welcome.
 
 770's firmware version 2.2005.45-7
 
 TIA
 
 Igor
 
 P.S.: 
 When I connect the tablet to my NOT LOCKED neighbourhood AP,  the 770
 works a lot better.
 It gets disconnected only  when the signal is very weak. I do not know
 which router model my
 neighbours have.
 
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Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost

2006-02-18 Thread Primorec
no the change did not make a difference. Connections is
lost after 2-3 minutes.. Basically, the same behaviour as
before.
If I keep Internet radio up and running, the connection is stable and reliableOn 2/18/06, Primorec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:My setting was
Packet data idle time: 10 minutes
Data call idle time: 10 minutes
WLAN idle time: 60 minutes

I will set these parameters per your suggestion
Packet data idle time: Unlimited

Data call idle time: 10 minutes ( will keep the original setting because I do not know what is 'Data call idle time')

WLAN idle time: Unlimited

Let's cross fingers

Igor
On 2/18/06, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Did you set in Control Panel / Connectivity / Idle times (second tab) /Packet data and WLAN Idle time to Unlimited?I have an ASUS WL500GX (Linux inside too) and have no troublemaintaining browsing for tens of minutes.
After a while (about one hour UI idle) it drops the connection though,even if I ssh to it every minute from a desktop machine, this is anissue but it looks different from yours.Sincerely,Laurent
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 15:31 -0800, Primorec wrote: Hi, One month ago I've received my tablet and 10 days ago I've received Linksys WRTG54GL router. Yes, this is a Linux based router.
 For the last 10 days I am trying to establish reliable wireless connection between the tablet and the router to no avail. The tablet looses the connection with the router every fewminutes (or even less).
 So, browsing the net is not very pleasant experience. Or is such a behavior a 'feature' (aka saving power for the TX/RX subsystem after minute of no activity) If it IS the feature, then I would like to know how to disable it. I
 am willing to sacrifice battery life for smoother web browsing. It does not matter if I am very close to the AP or far away from it. I've found two workarounds for my problem:
 A) workaround ONE == Byselecting automatic connection the problem goes partially away Control Panel == Connectivity == Connections == check 'Use without

 asking' Result is somehow acceptable. Every few minutes I have to wait a little bit longer to get the web page I clicked on. 770 is reconnecting in the background. B) workaround TWO
 === Starting Internet Radio (AccuRadio HitKast) Having Internet radio up and running all the time, WEB browsing is a PLEASANT experience. NO more 'Connection lost' messages
 Is there a better way to solve this problem ? Any hint/trick/advice/solution is more than welcome. 770's firmware version 2.2005.45-7 TIA Igor
 P.S.: When I connect the tablet to my NOT LOCKED neighbourhood AP,the 770 works a lot better. It gets disconnected onlywhen the signal is very weak. I do not know which router model my
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