Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900
Nelson, Can you walk me through what you needed to do to get it running? e.g. Did you download the OS2008 version? For the N800 or the N810? Does it make a difference which one? Any gotchas to be aware of? I just tried installing the N800 version using dpkg -i and it gave me an error message /var/lib/dpkg/info/garnet-vm.postinst: line 22: maemo-select-menu-location: not found I managed to start it successfully, but I could not find any easy way to kill it. Comments on that? Also, any comments on how to get and load other Palm apps? Aldon -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]on Behalf Of Nelson Ferreira Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:25 PM To: Fernando Cassia Cc: Tablet Blog Subject: Re: Recording calls It does work, and runs the stock Palm apps fine. Still have not found the time to install the other Palm apps I still cling to On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:00, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: It literally took the Palm YEARS to get a call recorder. It took the N900 weeks (days :-) to get a call recorder - dictaphone - FM radio recorder - Internet radio recorder - Flash TV recorder, in AAC 128 kbps Stereo :-) Happy hacking - the N900 rocks! -Tom Has anyone managed to install the Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900?. I'm just curious if it works, as the Access Software page only mentions N800 and N810 tablets... FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 21:01, Aldon Hynes aldon.hy...@orient-lodge.com wrote: Nelson, Can you walk me through what you needed to do to get it running? e.g. Did you download the OS2008 version? For the N800 or the N810? Does it make a difference which one? Any gotchas to be aware of? I used the N810 since it is the latest. I do not know if it makes a difference. It was painless for me, so I do not know of any gotchas. I just tried installing the N800 version using dpkg -i and it gave me an error message /var/lib/dpkg/info/garnet-vm.postinst: line 22: maemo-select-menu-location: not found I believe I got the same thing, but it was benign. I managed to start it successfully, but I could not find any easy way to kill it. Comments on that? I used the Ctrl-Bkspc to list all the apps and killed it that way. Also, any comments on how to get and load other Palm apps? Like I said, I have not yet had the time to do so, for several reasons. I hope in 2 weeks to get some time to explore that :-) Aldon -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]on Behalf Of Nelson Ferreira Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:25 PM To: Fernando Cassia Cc: Tablet Blog Subject: Re: Recording calls It does work, and runs the stock Palm apps fine. Still have not found the time to install the other Palm apps I still cling to On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:00, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: It literally took the Palm YEARS to get a call recorder. It took the N900 weeks (days :-) to get a call recorder - dictaphone - FM radio recorder - Internet radio recorder - Flash TV recorder, in AAC 128 kbps Stereo :-) Happy hacking - the N900 rocks! -Tom Has anyone managed to install the Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900?. I'm just curious if it works, as the Access Software page only mentions N800 and N810 tablets... FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900
The error is due to the fact that the N900 doesn't have a divided menu area like the 700 and 800 series did. Their application menu was divided up into functional sub-menus, similar to what Catorise does for the N900. The app it's trying to run would place the desktop icon in the proper sub-folder. One could easily make a script or small program of the same name that just returned the expected result code and most packages would run just fine. The only real gotchas about running apps for the N800 series is that some of the libraries they call for are much older, and may have a slightly different API in the new versions. That and the fact that they don't expect to run full-screen, since the previous tablet series had it's menu on the left side as a side-bar, and it wasn't retractable the way our top-based menu is. (Which means most don't have close or task switch buttons either...) I'd love to see an N820 emulator package that one could launch to run older apps. It could put a side-bar in with launch, close and task-switch icons, and maybe throw in the placebo select-menu executable as well which could move desktop icons for older apps into a separate launch menu used in the emulator. Would be great to leverage the 800 libraries for the 900 as much as possible. Aldon Hynes aldon.hy...@orient-lodge.com wrote: = Nelson, Can you walk me through what you needed to do to get it running? e.g. Did you download the OS2008 version? For the N800 or the N810? Does it make a difference which one? Any gotchas to be aware of? I just tried installing the N800 version using dpkg -i and it gave me an error message /var/lib/dpkg/info/garnet-vm.postinst: line 22: maemo-select-menu-location: not found I managed to start it successfully, but I could not find any easy way to kill it. Comments on that? Also, any comments on how to get and load other Palm apps? Aldon -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]on Behalf Of Nelson Ferreira Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:25 PM To: Fernando Cassia Cc: Tablet Blog Subject: Re: Recording calls It does work, and runs the stock Palm apps fine. Still have not found the time to install the other Palm apps I still cling to On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:00, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: It literally took the Palm YEARS to get a call recorder. It took the N900 weeks (days :-) to get a call recorder - dictaphone - FM radio recorder - Internet radio recorder - Flash TV recorder, in AAC 128 kbps Stereo :-) Happy hacking - the N900 rocks! -Tom Has anyone managed to install the Garnet VM beta 5 on the N900?. I'm just curious if it works, as the Access Software page only mentions N800 and N810 tablets... FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Monday 28 April 2008 00:01:47 Tim Ashman wrote: import_vcard: Error reading card file addresses.vcf: required attribute N is missing! Thanks for the information you sent me, Tim. I have added a feature to GPE to default a missing N: from the FN: or ORG: lines if present, to improve Palm compatibility. This feature will be present in the next release of GPE and any daily builds dated 20080429 or later. Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
Awesome! Thank you. Can't wait for the next release. tim On 04/28/2008 06:18, Graham Cobb wrote: On Monday 28 April 2008 00:01:47 Tim Ashman wrote: import_vcard: Error reading card file addresses.vcf: required attribute N is missing! Thanks for the information you sent me, Tim. I have added a feature to GPE to default a missing N: from the FN: or ORG: lines if present, to improve Palm compatibility. This feature will be present in the next release of GPE and any daily builds dated 20080429 or later. Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
I tried this from the command line and received this error. import_vcard: Error reading card file addresses.vcf: required attribute N is missing! Any ideas. When I tried it from the program Tools, import it just fails without an explanation. tim On 04/22/2008 10:40, Graham Cobb wrote: gpe-contacts -i filename or the Tools-Import menu entry should import a multiple-entry vCard. If it doesn't work for you please report a bug in the GPE bugzilla (http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/). Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: Garnet VM PIM]
Jörgen Scheibengruber wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:06 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, Maybe you could comment on the addressbook to this poor maemo user? :-) - Eero email message attachment (Garnet VM PIM) Forwarded Message From: ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maemo Users maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Garnet VM PIM Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:26:30 -0600 [...] The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.) What's wrong with the shipped addressbook? It should be able to import multiple-entry vcards and .csv just fine? If it doesn't work for you, it would be cool if you could provide samples of the data that doesn't work for you? (Create some "ghost" contacts, don't send your private data ;-)) HTH, Jörgen I need *all* of the fields in my current address book to transfer, not just name, email phone. The built-in Contacts app can't do that. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Garnet VM PIM
Does anybody know where the Garnet VM keeps its user files? I can't get it to import any of my files from my Palm device, and after a successful hotsync, the VM won't launch at all, even after uninstalling and reinstalling the Garnet VM. There's obviously something incompatible in my files, but I can't find out what without being able to try my files one at a time, and the Garnet launcher won't allow me to install or otherwise access any of my Palm databases or other user files, only applications. The Access Web site isn't any help, and it won't even let me submit a compatibility report. I've tried manually searching my N800's directories with emelFM2, but I'm not finding anything that looks like Palm files, and the Search app is just as worthless as the built-in file manager because it won't search the whole file system and doesn't show the path to files. The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.) I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of entries that's not going to happen. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called gvm.store. you can't really access it easily. It could be a loopback device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem is on there. So there are several very valid complaints here: 1) Access is running a horrible beta program. It's teaseware. No user feedback, no developer feedback. No hint of future support. No documentation. 2) No serious PIM on the platform. GPE is conceptware. It doesn't even handle alarms acceptably. No icons for events. No categories in todo. Sync through erminig is a great hack but a nasty implementation. Gene Cash developed some scripts in python that are better, but still miles from a good Palm PIM, and kinda slow. He had trouble installing OS2008 so abandoned all the OS2008 users. Another great hack, of course, but not professional at all. 3) No serious contact app. GPE contacts is not bad for accessing, but insanity to try and format things just so so that it figures out first and last names. Is it really that hard to put in 2 fields for that? Nothing is integrated with anything else. Skype and Gizmo are given huge prominence, and have no connection with the system contacts list. At least the Google Talk client has some kind of integration... I've pretty much given up using the tablet for PIM use for now. I'd pay good money for something like Pocket Informant, if they ported it. You're almost better off getting the smallest Palm handheld you can find and carrying that alongside. 4) Data exchange is buggy across the board. gpesyncd can do it, but you have to fuss with your file for a long time before it's happy. Check the ITT forums for some people that have done it, in a few different ways. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know where the Garnet VM keeps its user files? I can't get it to import any of my files from my Palm device, and after a successful hotsync, the VM won't launch at all, even after uninstalling and reinstalling the Garnet VM. There's obviously something incompatible in my files, but I can't find out what without being able to try my files one at a time, and the Garnet launcher won't allow me to install or otherwise access any of my Palm databases or other user files, only applications. The Access Web site isn't any help, and it won't even let me submit a compatibility report. I've tried manually searching my N800's directories with emelFM2, but I'm not finding anything that looks like Palm files, and the Search app is just as worthless as the built-in file manager because it won't search the whole file system and doesn't show the path to files. The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.) I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of entries that's not going to happen. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called gvm.store. you can't really access it easily. It could be a loopback device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem is on there. This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it back to working order. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big H on the toolbar to see it. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called gvm.store. you can't really access it easily. It could be a loopback device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem is on there. This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it back to working order. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Tuesday 22 Apr 2008, Mark wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called gvm.store. you can't really access it easily. It could be a loopback device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem is on there. This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it back to working order. Not necessarily. If the package is just removed (dpkg -r packagename), configuration files are left in place. If the package is subsequently re-installed, dpkg assumes those files will still be there so doesn't re-install them. To be certain that the next re-install will definitely install config files you need to purge the package (dpkg -P packagename). I don't know for certain which option the application manager uses, but I have a feeling it's only remove rather than purge. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suffolk, England http://www.beermad.org.uk http://no2id-ip.web-brewer.co.uk ** This message is digitally signed. If your email client is unable to read digital signatures, you may see an attachment that you cannot open. See http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html for more information. You can validate my PGP key from my website: http://www.beermad.org.uk/ * No Micro$oft products were used in the generation of this communication signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 16:26:30 Mark wrote: The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.) I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of entries that's not going to happen. gpe-contacts -i filename or the Tools-Import menu entry should import a multiple-entry vCard. If it doesn't work for you please report a bug in the GPE bugzilla (http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/). Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big H on the toolbar to see it. Nope, it's not there at all. The offending file(s) have to be somewhere else. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
If you are running from the launcher, it will probably be /home/user/.gvm If you're running as root, you might have created it in /root/.gvm - I really don't know where else it could be? Try running this in a terminal: find / -name gvm.store You should find something that way... That's the brute force way :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big H on the toolbar to see it. Nope, it's not there at all. The offending file(s) have to be somewhere else. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Garnet VM PIM
1) Access is running a horrible beta program. It's teaseware. No user feedback, no developer feedback. No hint of future support. No documentation. I totally agree. I keep wondering when Access is going to go from horrible beta to reliable tool. I keep sending in my issues with installed software and never get anything back except a thank you and with no subsequent betas being releases, there's no way to know if Access is even working on Garnet. It's a bit frustrating and I agree it's teaseware. There's great potential here though. Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Markevich Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:15 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Garnet VM PIM ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Garnet VM PIM
2) No serious PIM on the platform. GPE is conceptware. It doesn't even handle alarms acceptably. No icons for events. No categories in todo. Sync through erminig is a great hack but a nasty implementation. Gene Cash developed some scripts in python that are better, but still miles from a good Palm PIM, and kinda slow. He had trouble installing OS2008 so abandoned all the OS2008 users. Another great hack, of course, but not professional at all. I forgot. J I've become used to using GPE. Last year I posted a few issues such as categories aren't sorted, and there's no real way to accurately sort contacts (tried using 'Name:' for people and 'Company' for business' thinking that 'Name' would sort by last name (assuming last name is the last entry) while Company would sort by first name (assuming it's the first entry) but that doesn't seem to be the case). Other than that, I've come to depend upon GPE (todo, contacts, and calendar). Dr. Nicholas Shaw MAJ, USA Retired ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM PIM
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are running from the launcher, it will probably be /home/user/.gvm If you're running as root, you might have created it in /root/.gvm - I really don't know where else it could be? Try running this in a terminal: find / -name gvm.store You should find something that way... That's the brute force way :) Let me clarify: that directory and file are there when Garnet VM is installed... but not there when it's been uninstalled. Therefore, regardless of that directory/file's existance or function, it can't be responsible for containing the settings or data that persist when it's uninstalled. The offending files have to be somewhere that still exists even when the app doesn't. However, thanks for that command line. It will be very useful in other situations. :-) Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Andrew Barr wrote: Access is in the business of selling to OEMs, not end users. I find it highly doubtful that they are going to charge for this, because it's more of a technology demo than an actual marketable end-user product. I suspect that the emulator is based on POSE or their other later ARM enabled emulator. These were always provided for free. The effort has already gone in to developing the core of the product, so charging for it seems a little odd. Then again, PalmOS isn't really making a lot of money at the moment and the Access Linux Platform is yet to be released. Maybe they'll use Nokia tablets to hone their code. After all, it'll probably be running on Linux for Arm at some point. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Anyone know how much it will be? I don't, per se, have a problem with paying for software. My employers pay me after all, for the code I write for them. :-) Whether it is worth buying depends on whether it does what I need, how well how much it costs.It doesn't hot sync to a mac, which is not good, but I can work around it if I need to, so I guess I'll try it. Beth Nevertheless, I've been thinking about it, and I'm going to uninstall it... Why do I want a VM that is going to be privative from May 31th? What advantage could I take from using its free apps if I'm not going to be able to use them in six monts...? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Dear Beth, On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Elizabeth Kirby wrote: Whether it is worth buying depends on whether it does what I need, how well how much it costs.It doesn't hot sync to a mac, which is not good, but I can work around it if I need to, so I guess I'll try it. I don't see why it wouldn't sync to a Mac: It's just using the regular Palm HotSync protocol. I use Garnet VM with pilot-link (unix hotsync software) no problem. Kind regards, Nick ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
What I wonder is why it is so fast... I mean, once loaded the VM it executes any Garnet application much faster than my 770 executes normal applications (even osso-xterm)... Why is that? Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
sebastian maemo wrote: Nevertheless, I've been thinking about it, and I'm going to uninstall it... Why do I want a VM that is going to be privative from May 31th? What advantage could I take from using its free apps if I'm not going to be able to use them in six monts...? I was unable to find any indication that they intend to charge for the software. In fact, there are some press releases from November that use the language 'available as a /free/ download', and no indication that the download was a trial, time-limited or something of that nature. I think it's more likely that they are just want to retain control over the software, and perhaps force upgrades. They may wish to keep the software from running on unauthorized devices, and forcing upgrades means that any 'hacked' software would be of limited use. Access is in the business of selling to OEMs, not end users. I find it highly doubtful that they are going to charge for this, because it's more of a technology demo than an actual marketable end-user product. Salut, Sebas. -- Andrew Barr ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
2008/1/14, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was unable to find any indication that they intend to charge for the software. In fact, there are some press releases from November that use the language 'available as a /free/ download', and no indication that the download was a trial, time-limited or something of that nature. That would be great, then. It's a pity that I don't remember where did I read that warning message... Nevertheless it would be a good idea to get some feedback from Access confirming that point before migrating apps... Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
sebastian maemo wrote: 2008/1/14, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was unable to find any indication that they intend to charge for the software. In fact, there are some press releases from November that use the language 'available as a /free/ download', and no indication that the download was a trial, time-limited or something of that nature. That would be great, then. It's a pity that I don't remember where did I read that warning message... Nevertheless it would be a good idea to get some feedback from Access confirming that point before migrating apps... It's in the license agreement. It's a time-limited trial beta and the user may not continue to use the software after the period has expired. Sincerely, Jason ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Garnet VM
Any one get Garnet VM running on N800 with 2008? http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/index.html. When I install I get, hildon-fm1(=1.14), hildon-libs0(=0.14.11.1, libdbus-1.2(=.61) Chris ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
GVM works fine on 770. Salut, Sebas. 2008/1/9, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any one get Garnet VM running on N800 with 2008? http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/index.html. When I install I get, hildon-fm1(=1.14 ), hildon-libs0(=0.14.11.1, libdbus-1.2(=.61) Chris ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Nevertheless, I've been thinking about it, and I'm going to uninstall it... Why do I want a VM that is going to be privative from May 31th? What advantage could I take from using its free apps if I'm not going to be able to use them in six monts...? Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Chris wrote: Any one get Garnet VM running on N800 with 2008? http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/index.html. When I install I get, hildon-fm1(=1.14 ), hildon-libs0(=0.14.11.1 http://0.14.11.1, libdbus-1.2(=.61) I had the same results. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
2008/1/9, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Or are you saying that after May 31 (2008 I assume) Access will start charging for this software? That's exactly what I understand I read in a warning prompt when downloading and installing Garnet VM... I wish I was mistaken... Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Garnet VM hotsync with linux/pilot-csd
Summary; anyone made this work? Wireshark says that Garnet is attempting to connect to my PC on tcp/14238. Netstat says that pilot-csd is listening on udp/14237. There doesn't seem to be any options on either side to make them match up. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cant Get Access to send email re Garnet VM Download Instructions
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 21:30 -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: All, I seem to be having a problem getting the Access Corp www site to send me the email that will allow me to download the Garnet VM. I have tried several email addresses and two different email service providers but I don't seem to get a response. Has anyone else had this problem. Here is the url to the www page to which I am referring: http://www.access-company.com/cgi/gvm_nseries.cgi?action=download_formwhich=N800 Hi, I had no problem although the email ended up in my junk folder. I sent you the download off list. Best Regards, -- Peter Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://petertheplumber.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Cant Get Access to send email re Garnet VM Download Instructions
All, I seem to be having a problem getting the Access Corp www site to send me the email that will allow me to download the Garnet VM. I have tried several email addresses and two different email service providers but I don't seem to get a response. Has anyone else had this problem. Here is the url to the www page to which I am referring: http://www.access-company.com/cgi/gvm_nseries.cgi?action=download_formwhich=N800 -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users