Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread John Holmblad
Marius,

for those who use Windows Desktops, PuTTY is a nice SSH/Telnet client 
app for use with the Internet Tablets after installing the SSH server on 
the I.T.. Here for those not already familiar with PuTTY is the url to 
the www site for it:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/



Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:42:31PM -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>   
>> How do you establish root access on the N810? I don't recall setting up
>> a root password. When I type:
>>
>> 
>>> su -
>>>   
>> It says "applet requires root privileges." If I try to use sudo, it asks
>> for a password.
>> 
>
> Here's what I do:
>
>   * Enable Maemo Extras
>   * Install openssh-server.  It will ask for a new root password.
>   * Open X Terminal
>   * ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> And then, optionally
>
>   * 'EDITOR=vi visudo' and add at the bottom
>
>   user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
>   root ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
>
> I'm afraid there's no editor more convenient than vi, and you have to
> know vi to be able to use it.
>
>   
>> Once I get past this, how do I install apt?
>> 
>
> Apt is preinstalled.
>
> Marius Gedminas
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:42:31PM -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
> How do you establish root access on the N810? I don't recall setting up
> a root password. When I type:
> 
> > su -
> 
> It says "applet requires root privileges." If I try to use sudo, it asks
> for a password.

Here's what I do:

  * Enable Maemo Extras
  * Install openssh-server.  It will ask for a new root password.
  * Open X Terminal
  * ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And then, optionally

  * 'EDITOR=vi visudo' and add at the bottom

  user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
  root ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

I'm afraid there's no editor more convenient than vi, and you have to
know vi to be able to use it.

> Once I get past this, how do I install apt?

Apt is preinstalled.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext ext Jesper Cheetah wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:04:38AM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
 install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136
>>> Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
>>> last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
>>> I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.
>> Are you using RD mode?  I think RD mode setting is in the CAL area[1].
>> At least it's not cleared when you flash the device.
> 
> Hmm, now that you mention it.. I vaguely remember setting that flag when
> flashing a long time ago. So that explains why I never need to jump
> through hoops just to get root :)
> 
> Any negative effect of leaving RD on?

Several:
- device can more easily start by accident in your bag
   (no delay in pressing the power key)
- consumes more battery
- disables battery type checks


- Eero
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread Alfredo J. Fabretti
Also the old and messy way was enabling R&D mode, editing gainroot
script and removing the IF condition. After that you can disable R&D
mode and use sudo gainroot without R&D mode.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:49 AM, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick Bilonick wrote:
>>> My approach has been (just naturally did this)
>>>
>>> * install ssh server/client
>>> * type in root passwd
>>> * ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Done.
>>> No CAL, pills or anything else (though it does look like I cant use su/sudo)
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
>> How do you get to the point of setting a root password?
>>
>> Rick B.
>
> The ssh installer pops up a nice passwd gui
> All very civilised - apart from the strange 'su/sudo' disability.
>
> David
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread David Greaves
Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> My approach has been (just naturally did this)
>>
>> * install ssh server/client
>> * type in root passwd
>> * ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Done.
>> No CAL, pills or anything else (though it does look like I cant use su/sudo)
>>
>> David
>>
> 
> How do you get to the point of setting a root password?
> 
> Rick B.

The ssh installer pops up a nice passwd gui
All very civilised - apart from the strange 'su/sudo' disability.

David
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread David Greaves
Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ext Jesper Cheetah wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>> install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136
>> Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
>> last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
>> I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.
> 
> Are you using RD mode?  I think RD mode setting is in the CAL area[1].
> At least it's not cleared when you flash the device.
> 
> 
>   - Eero
> 
> [1] What is CAL:
> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=186507

Well, as someone with a fairly new and fairly clean N800 - sudo gainroot doesn't
work for me after flashing Diablo (never tried before though).

It says:
  cal_read_block(...  block not found?
  Enable RD mode to gain root privileges


My approach has been (just naturally did this)

* install ssh server/client
* type in root passwd
* ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Done.
No CAL, pills or anything else (though it does look like I cant use su/sudo)

David

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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread ext Jesper Cheetah
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:04:38AM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Jesper Cheetah wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>> install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136
>>
>> Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
>> last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
>> I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.
>
> Are you using RD mode?  I think RD mode setting is in the CAL area[1].
> At least it's not cleared when you flash the device.

Hmm, now that you mention it.. I vaguely remember setting that flag when
flashing a long time ago. So that explains why I never need to jump
through hoops just to get root :)

Any negative effect of leaving RD on?

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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Jesper Cheetah wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
>> install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136
> 
> Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
> last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
> I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.

Are you using RD mode?  I think RD mode setting is in the CAL area[1].
At least it's not cleared when you flash the device.


- Eero

[1] What is CAL:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=186507
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Greene
I've used it twice today in Diablo

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Jesper Cheetah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
>> install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136
>
> Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
> last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
> I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.
>
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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-24 Thread Jesper Cheetah
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:00PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
> install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136

Are you sure that's still necessary? I'm fairly confident that for the
last.. several firmware versions, at least since xterm became default,
I've been able to just jump right in and do sudo gainroot.

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Re: How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-24 Thread Jonathan Greene
install becomeroot - http://www.gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=136

then sudo gainroot

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Rick Bilonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you establish root access on the N810? I don't recall setting up
> a root password. When I type:
>
>> su -
>
> It says "applet requires root privileges." If I try to use sudo, it asks
> for a password.
>
> Once I get past this, how do I install apt?
>
> Rick B.
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How to Get Root Access on the N810

2008-06-24 Thread Rick Bilonick
How do you establish root access on the N810? I don't recall setting up
a root password. When I type:

> su -

It says "applet requires root privileges." If I try to use sudo, it asks
for a password.

Once I get past this, how do I install apt?

Rick B.

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