Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?

2009-03-13 Thread Brad Midgley 
John

> all this most likely done to keep the battery drain to a minimum...

This is one of Apple's mantras, but the primary motivation for the
arbitrary limitations is to maintain tight control over the platform.

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Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?

2009-03-13 Thread kenneth marken 
John Holmblad wrote:
> Kevin,
> 
> agreed. A more indepth discussion with some of those other users would 
> have provided the opportunity to reveal that value associated with a 
> Linux based mobile device.
> 
> Now I have to wonder, does the iphone OS support multitasking?Is it a 
> stripped down version of OS X? I;ll do some reading to find out.
> 

iirc, yes on both questions. but apple denied third party apps the 
ability to run in the background. also, pull style protocols where 
supposedly limited to go via a apple "proxy" that would turn them into 
push protocols, by bundling updates. iirc, said proxy is way overdue.

all this most likely done to keep the battery drain to a minimum...

> Best Regards,
> 
>  John Holmblad
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin T. Neely wrote:
>> they likely don't care about multi-tasking until you give a concrete 
>> example of a multi-tasking scenario:  say, listening to mp3s while 
>> using IM..  Or, switching between browsing, IM, and [your favourite 
>> iPhone app here].
>>
>> concepts like multi-tasking tend to go over most people's heads until 
>> an example that directly impacts them comes into play.
>>
>> K
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, John Holmblad 
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>> the post at the www page whose url is
>>
>>  
>>  http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470711/1/rim-apple-feast-on-nokia.html
>>
>> frames the experience I had today.
>>
>> While seated at a luncheon following a technical  meeting
>> (Cisco/VMware/Netapp/etc)  I duly noted that I was among a crowd (that
>> would be ~6-8 people)  where the average mobile device at the
>> table was
>> somewhere between the iphone and the blackberry.
>>
>> While explaining what I do to the individual seated next to me , I
>> brought the N800 into the discussion and  I blithely asserted that the
>> N800 is, well,.like an iphone on steroids but without a GSM or
>> CDMA radio for voice.  Although the listener,  knows that LInux is, in
>> fact,  an operating system, and is aware of the TMobile G1 (but not
>> Android), that individual did not perceive it as a big deal that the
>> N800 runs LInux and is therefore capable of multitasking. This is
>> perhaps what I expected, that is, the end user, even of the kind
>> (let's
>> call them technically sophisticated professionals) who would
>> attend such
>> an event, does not really care about these things.
>>
>> I did ask the iphone user about her experience with the device and she
>> said she loved it. And during a discussion on iphone jailbreaking she
>> confirmed that one of her friends has jailbroken his iphone to get
>> tethering to work.
>>
>> I think that the following commentary
>>
>> > For consumers, it appears that features such as the touchscreen
>> > interface are more in demand than the OS. Since the iPhone was
>> > released, almost every major phone manufacturer is offering a
>> > touch-screen model, many of which are not smartphones
>>
>> from the wireless week article whose url is:
>>
>>http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=166592
>>
>> says it all although the same article does have some positive
>> things to
>> say about the Nokia Nseries
>>
>>
>> And speaking of Nokia and the Iphone, here is the url to another
>> posting
>> from the thestreet.com  www site that
>> suggests that Nokia will join hands
>> with Verizon Wireless to take on the ATT/Iphone Cabal:
>>
>>
>> 
>> http://www.thestreet.com/story/10468078/1/nokia-verizon-plan-exclusive-4g-device.html
>>
>>
>> Maybe what the article's author is referring to without knowing it
>> is G5
>> of the IT?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>  John Holmblad
>>
>>  Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>>
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Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?

2009-03-12 Thread John Holmblad 
Kevin,

agreed. A more indepth discussion with some of those other users would 
have provided the opportunity to reveal that value associated with a 
Linux based mobile device.

Now I have to wonder, does the iphone OS support multitasking?Is it a 
stripped down version of OS X? I;ll do some reading to find out.

Best Regards,

 John Holmblad
Acadia Secure Networks, LLC




Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> they likely don't care about multi-tasking until you give a concrete 
> example of a multi-tasking scenario:  say, listening to mp3s while 
> using IM..  Or, switching between browsing, IM, and [your favourite 
> iPhone app here].
>
> concepts like multi-tasking tend to go over most people's heads until 
> an example that directly impacts them comes into play.
>
> K
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, John Holmblad 
>  > wrote:
>
> All,
>
>
> the post at the www page whose url is
>
>  
>  http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470711/1/rim-apple-feast-on-nokia.html
>
> frames the experience I had today.
>
> While seated at a luncheon following a technical  meeting
> (Cisco/VMware/Netapp/etc)  I duly noted that I was among a crowd (that
> would be ~6-8 people)  where the average mobile device at the
> table was
> somewhere between the iphone and the blackberry.
>
> While explaining what I do to the individual seated next to me , I
> brought the N800 into the discussion and  I blithely asserted that the
> N800 is, well,.like an iphone on steroids but without a GSM or
> CDMA radio for voice.  Although the listener,  knows that LInux is, in
> fact,  an operating system, and is aware of the TMobile G1 (but not
> Android), that individual did not perceive it as a big deal that the
> N800 runs LInux and is therefore capable of multitasking. This is
> perhaps what I expected, that is, the end user, even of the kind
> (let's
> call them technically sophisticated professionals) who would
> attend such
> an event, does not really care about these things.
>
> I did ask the iphone user about her experience with the device and she
> said she loved it. And during a discussion on iphone jailbreaking she
> confirmed that one of her friends has jailbroken his iphone to get
> tethering to work.
>
> I think that the following commentary
>
> > For consumers, it appears that features such as the touchscreen
> > interface are more in demand than the OS. Since the iPhone was
> > released, almost every major phone manufacturer is offering a
> > touch-screen model, many of which are not smartphones
>
> from the wireless week article whose url is:
>
>http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=166592
>
> says it all although the same article does have some positive
> things to
> say about the Nokia Nseries
>
>
> And speaking of Nokia and the Iphone, here is the url to another
> posting
> from the thestreet.com  www site that
> suggests that Nokia will join hands
> with Verizon Wireless to take on the ATT/Iphone Cabal:
>
>
> 
> http://www.thestreet.com/story/10468078/1/nokia-verizon-plan-exclusive-4g-device.html
>
>
> Maybe what the article's author is referring to without knowing it
> is G5
> of the IT?
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  John Holmblad
>
>  Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> *
> * >
>
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Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?

2009-03-12 Thread Kevin T. Neely 
they likely don't care about multi-tasking until you give a concrete example
of a multi-tasking scenario:  say, listening to mp3s while using IM.  Or,
switching between browsing, IM, and [your favourite iPhone app here].

concepts like multi-tasking tend to go over most people's heads until an
example that directly impacts them comes into play.

K

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, John Holmblad <
jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com> wrote:

> All,
>
>
> the post at the www page whose url is
>
>http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470711/1/rim-apple-feast-on-nokia.html
>
> frames the experience I had today.
>
> While seated at a luncheon following a technical  meeting
> (Cisco/VMware/Netapp/etc)  I duly noted that I was among a crowd (that
> would be ~6-8 people)  where the average mobile device at the table was
> somewhere between the iphone and the blackberry.
>
> While explaining what I do to the individual seated next to me , I
> brought the N800 into the discussion and  I blithely asserted that the
> N800 is, well,.like an iphone on steroids but without a GSM or
> CDMA radio for voice.  Although the listener,  knows that LInux is, in
> fact,  an operating system, and is aware of the TMobile G1 (but not
> Android), that individual did not perceive it as a big deal that the
> N800 runs LInux and is therefore capable of multitasking. This is
> perhaps what I expected, that is, the end user, even of the kind (let's
> call them technically sophisticated professionals) who would attend such
> an event, does not really care about these things.
>
> I did ask the iphone user about her experience with the device and she
> said she loved it. And during a discussion on iphone jailbreaking she
> confirmed that one of her friends has jailbroken his iphone to get
> tethering to work.
>
> I think that the following commentary
>
> > For consumers, it appears that features such as the touchscreen
> > interface are more in demand than the OS. Since the iPhone was
> > released, almost every major phone manufacturer is offering a
> > touch-screen model, many of which are not smartphones
>
> from the wireless week article whose url is:
>
>http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=166592
>
> says it all although the same article does have some positive things to
> say about the Nokia Nseries
>
>
> And speaking of Nokia and the Iphone, here is the url to another posting
> from the thestreet.com www site that suggests that Nokia will join hands
> with Verizon Wireless to take on the ATT/Iphone Cabal:
>
>
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/story/10468078/1/nokia-verizon-plan-exclusive-4g-device.html
>
>
> Maybe what the article's author is referring to without knowing it is G5
> of the IT?
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  John Holmblad
>
>  Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
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Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?

2009-03-12 Thread John Holmblad 
All,


the post at the www page whose url is

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470711/1/rim-apple-feast-on-nokia.html

frames the experience I had today.

While seated at a luncheon following a technical  meeting 
(Cisco/VMware/Netapp/etc)  I duly noted that I was among a crowd (that 
would be ~6-8 people)  where the average mobile device at the table was 
somewhere between the iphone and the blackberry.

While explaining what I do to the individual seated next to me , I 
brought the N800 into the discussion and  I blithely asserted that the 
N800 is, well,.like an iphone on steroids but without a GSM or 
CDMA radio for voice.  Although the listener,  knows that LInux is, in 
fact,  an operating system, and is aware of the TMobile G1 (but not 
Android), that individual did not perceive it as a big deal that the 
N800 runs LInux and is therefore capable of multitasking. This is 
perhaps what I expected, that is, the end user, even of the kind (let's 
call them technically sophisticated professionals) who would attend such 
an event, does not really care about these things.

I did ask the iphone user about her experience with the device and she 
said she loved it. And during a discussion on iphone jailbreaking she 
confirmed that one of her friends has jailbroken his iphone to get 
tethering to work.

I think that the following commentary

> For consumers, it appears that features such as the touchscreen
> interface are more in demand than the OS. Since the iPhone was
> released, almost every major phone manufacturer is offering a
> touch-screen model, many of which are not smartphones

from the wireless week article whose url is:

http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=166592

says it all although the same article does have some positive things to 
say about the Nokia Nseries
 

And speaking of Nokia and the Iphone, here is the url to another posting 
from the thestreet.com www site that suggests that Nokia will join hands 
with Verizon Wireless to take on the ATT/Iphone Cabal:


http://www.thestreet.com/story/10468078/1/nokia-verizon-plan-exclusive-4g-device.html


Maybe what the article's author is referring to without knowing it is G5 
of the IT?

-- 

Best Regards,

 John Holmblad

 Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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