Re: Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-22 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi Mike:

It's OK. If you decide to do it following the wiki, then I think I could
help a bit:
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card

First of all, the two partitions are not exactly a "boot sector" and a "file
sector":

First partition /dev/mmcblk0p1 is VFAT partition. This means that is where
you are going to store files you want to share with other computers. For
example, if you want to pass some files from you 770 to your PC or
viceversa, then you are going to store them in the VFAT partition, since it
is compatible with any Windows system, and of course, a Linux system. So
that think of the VFAT partition as a transition to move files from one
place to another. That is my suggestion of course. You may also store them
there permanently, of course. It depends on your security concerns, since
VFAT partition is not a Linux partition.

Second partition /dev/mmcblk0p2 is going to be ROOT partition. This means
that is where the whole system is going to be installed. This is not just a
BOOT partition. This is where all the applications are going to be
installed. For me, that I like to install as many applications as I may need
in my system, this is the most important one. I have given to that partition
the maximum size available. I want to install more and more apps like
OCTAVE, GNUMERIC, ABIWORD, etc without having problems of space.

If I were you, I would dedicate 1GB to the first VFAT partition. That is
enough to move big files from/to the MMC to/from the PC. Then another 1GB
for the second partition, that is the root partition, that is the whole
system.

If you do not need to move so huge files, you could reduce your first VFAT
partition to 600MB or so. That is up to you.

My personal case is that of a 1GB MMC, so that I've got 128MB for the first
VFAT partition, and the rest for the second (and for me more important) root
partition.

Tell us your choice and any problem you may have implementing it.

Salut,
Sebas.



2007/10/22, Mike Mellor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Can I reduce the size of the boot partition?  I would like to have more
> than 500M available for files.
>
> On 10/22/07, Frantisek Dufka < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mike Mellor wrote:
> > > I am a new 770 user.  I read that moving the filesystem to the media
> > > card improves the computer's performance.  Is this really a big
> > > improvement, or can I use the entire card for files (movies)?
> >
> > Major improvement is visible only with custom kernel
> > http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus
> > Please note that it doesn't work with every card. It works for me with
> > Kingston 2GB MMCmobile, YMMV.
> >
> > With default nokia kernel is is about the same. Maybe it feels slightly
> > more responsible due to lower CPU usage (flash filesystem is compressed,
> > mmc card is not) but it is not substantial.
> >
> > The main advantage is easier recovery in case something goes wrong and
> > more space for applications (depends on size you choose for root ext2
> > partition).
> >
> > See
> > http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_boot_from_mmc_card/
> > or bottom of
> > http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_bootrootfsfrommmc/
> >
> > Frantisek
> >
>
>
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Re: Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
Mike Mellor wrote:
> Can I reduce the size of the boot partition?  I would like to have more 
> than 500M available for files.
> 
Sure, 256MB should be just about adequate as the boot partition.

Also see the following thread on ITT for scripted OS cloning instructions (the 
same instructions as Frantisek linked to above, but scripted so you don't 
really need to understand what's going on if you don't want to!)

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8631

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Re: Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-22 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Mike Mellor wrote:
> Can I reduce the size of the boot partition?  I would like to have more 
> than 500M available for files.

That's a bit unclear, what files you mean exactly and what do you want 
to reduce? Everything on card is a file. How large card you have? 
300-400MB can be enough for root partition and you can leave rest for 
first FAT partition with data (media files, maps, game data files, ...). 
First partition can be shared over USB and is mounted to /media/mmcX and 
shown as card in file manager.

Frantisek

> 
>  Maybe it feels slightly more responsible due to lower CPU usage
Umm, responsive :-)
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Re: Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-22 Thread Mike Mellor
Can I reduce the size of the boot partition?  I would like to have more than
500M available for files.

On 10/22/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mike Mellor wrote:
> > I am a new 770 user.  I read that moving the filesystem to the media
> > card improves the computer's performance.  Is this really a big
> > improvement, or can I use the entire card for files (movies)?
>
> Major improvement is visible only with custom kernel
> http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus
> Please note that it doesn't work with every card. It works for me with
> Kingston 2GB MMCmobile, YMMV.
>
> With default nokia kernel is is about the same. Maybe it feels slightly
> more responsible due to lower CPU usage (flash filesystem is compressed,
> mmc card is not) but it is not substantial.
>
> The main advantage is easier recovery in case something goes wrong and
> more space for applications (depends on size you choose for root ext2
> partition).
>
> See
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_boot_from_mmc_card/
> or bottom of
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_bootrootfsfrommmc/
>
> Frantisek
>
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Re: Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-22 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Mike Mellor wrote:
> I am a new 770 user.  I read that moving the filesystem to the media  
> card improves the computer's performance.  Is this really a big  
> improvement, or can I use the entire card for files (movies)?

Major improvement is visible only with custom kernel
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus
Please note that it doesn't work with every card. It works for me with 
Kingston 2GB MMCmobile, YMMV.

With default nokia kernel is is about the same. Maybe it feels slightly 
more responsible due to lower CPU usage (flash filesystem is compressed, 
mmc card is not) but it is not substantial.

The main advantage is easier recovery in case something goes wrong and 
more space for applications (depends on size you choose for root ext2 
partition).

See
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_boot_from_mmc_card/
or bottom of
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_bootrootfsfrommmc/

Frantisek
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Moving filesystem to card?

2007-10-21 Thread Mike Mellor
I am a new 770 user.  I read that moving the filesystem to the media  
card improves the computer's performance.  Is this really a big  
improvement, or can I use the entire card for files (movies)?

Mike

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