Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day"
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:10:15 +0100, David Greaves wrote: >>> Have you followed this page? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt > I've got to say - I just followed the instructions - they weren't perfect but > there was no way to ammend them (not a wiki and no comments section) to say > what > I did - and it was weeks ago now so I don't recall. > > All I can say is that I have a perfectly working sb1 install on Debian > (experimental-ish) that targets Diablo on x86 and ARM. > > It can be done and it was, to be fair to Nokia, pretty easy :) > OK. I'll try again. Maybe some sites were in a temporarily brain-dead state or something. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for >>> maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There >>> seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious >>> places on the web. However, when following perfectly reasonable-looking >>> instructions, I keep finding that they don't work as described -- >>> usually because the relevant repositories have desappeared. >> Have you followed this page? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt I've got to say - I just followed the instructions - they weren't perfect but there was no way to ammend them (not a wiki and no comments section) to say what I did - and it was weeks ago now so I don't recall. All I can say is that I have a perfectly working sb1 install on Debian (experimental-ish) that targets Diablo on x86 and ARM. It can be done and it was, to be fair to Nokia, pretty easy :) >>> Finally, debian lenny now has a package called scratchbox2. The >>> instructions I've seen all use variations on scratchbox 1.*. Is that a >>> sign the instructions are obsolete? Or is scratchbox2 really a very >>> different thing? >> I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. The Scratchbox website >> suggests it's simply an evolution of Scratchbox 1. > > I found instructios somewhere that used scratchbox2, but I couldn't get > them to work either. sb2 is radically different to sb1 - like xen vs chroot. They do the same thing but the command set and the technology is different. They will co-exist though. I had an earlier version of scratchbox2 working fine; I upgraded the .debs and it stopped. I carried on using sb1 and haven't got round to trying sb2 again. Maybe visit #maemo and I'll help if I'm around David/lbt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day"
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:53:37PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for > > maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There > > seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious > > places on the web. However, when following perfectly reasonable-looking > > instructions, I keep finding that they don't work as described -- > > usually because the relevant repositories have desappeared. > > Have you followed this page? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt It's the one that told me how to find the Nokia script I mentioned. It also provides (in section 2.2) another procedure, which failed for me, using the detailed instructions. I'll try again, of course. > > It is the canonical reference for installing Scratchbox for maemo 4.0 > > Chapter 3 of the Maemo Diablo (v4.1) reference contains detailed > instructions for installing Scratchbox & getting started. > > > I'd like to request an up-to-date page on installing the development > > environment in a way that's compatible with responsible system > > administration on Debian. Even the Nokia's script that says it uses the > > Debian packaging system and claims to write only to a specific (new) > > top-level file system does, in fact, write elsewhere. > > I'm not sure what you mean by this - what is the Nokia package doing > wrong? Where is it writing? As far as I can tell, it writes in /etc/apt/sources.list. Now it probably has to in order to use the packaging system, but it really should mention that instead of saying, " Running the script will not modify any files outside its given install "path. Finding this discrepancy makes me suspicious, maybe unjustly. > > > Finally, debian lenny now has a package called scratchbox2. The > > instructions I've seen all use variations on scratchbox 1.*. Is that a > > sign the instructions are obsolete? Or is scratchbox2 really a very > > different thing? > > I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. The Scratchbox website > suggests it's simply an evolution of Scratchbox 1. I found instructios somewhere that used scratchbox2, but I couldn't get them to work either. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day"
Hi Hendrik, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for > maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There > seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious > places on the web. However, when following perfectly reasonable-looking > instructions, I keep finding that they don't work as described -- > usually because the relevant repositories have desappeared. Have you followed this page? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt It is the canonical reference for installing Scratchbox for maemo 4.0 Chapter 3 of the Maemo Diablo (v4.1) reference contains detailed instructions for installing Scratchbox & getting started. > I'd like to request an up-to-date page on installing the development > environment in a way that's compatible with responsible system > administration on Debian. Even the Nokia's script that says it uses the > Debian packaging system and claims to write only to a specific (new) > top-level file system does, in fact, write elsewhere. I'm not sure what you mean by this - what is the Nokia package doing wrong? Where is it writing? > Finally, debian lenny now has a package called scratchbox2. The > instructions I've seen all use variations on scratchbox 1.*. Is that a > sign the instructions are obsolete? Or is scratchbox2 really a very > different thing? I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. The Scratchbox website suggests it's simply an evolution of Scratchbox 1. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day"
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > * Correcting the content, if it's old or inappropriate I'd like to make a request for specific up-to-date content. I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious places on the web. However, when following perfectly reasonable-looking instructions, I keep finding that they don't work as described -- usually because the relevant repositories have desappeared. I'd like to request an up-to-date page on installing the development environment in a way that's compatible with responsible system administration on Debian. Even the Nokia's script that says it uses the Debian packaging system and claims to write only to a specific (new) top-level file system does, in fact, write elsewhere. Finally, debian lenny now has a package called scratchbox2. The instructions I've seen all use variations on scratchbox 1.*. Is that a sign the instructions are obsolete? Or is scratchbox2 really a very different thing? -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Documentation edit rules proposal (was: Re: Announcing the "wiki page a day")
Dave Neary schrieb: > [...] > I will be putting one page per day under the microscope over the next > few weeks which will get special attention for the day. The page for the > 1st of July is "Root access" http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access > > This page mentions a couple of methods which are well outdated, and it's > directly related to a recent thread on the list, so it seems like a good > candidate. > > I'll be nominating one page a day from the "Midgard wiki" category: > http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Midgard_wiki and at the end of the day, > will declare the page stable. Given that it's holiday time, I may miss a > day or two, and if you want to rebel against my evil plot and work on > some other page in the category, please feel free. Imho it would be nice to have a small set of rules for editing documentation pages. Is there already a wiki page for this? If not, there should be one. E.g.: https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation_rules My first intension reading the first clean wiki article "Root access" was: * For which device? * For which OS? In future artikles there will be the same questions. So in every documentation article of the wiki there should be some tags: * Testes with: N810 * Tested with: 770 * [...] * Tested with OS2006 * [...] * Skills and requirements for doing the stuff written in this article What do you think? Ciao Uwe -- Uwe Kaminski Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP: http://ju-key.de/publickey/jukey.asc Web: http://internettabletblog.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
