Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Hi, ext Henrik Frisk wrote: > On the other hand, if you are listening to music while the > phone is ringing, you will want to turn it off before answering the > phone which somewhat eliminates the problem... Device has so called "voip-mode" implemented by the media-server which AFAIK should take care of that automatically. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Luca Olivetti wrote:
>> El Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:48:35 +0200
>> Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>>
>>> So, in which all situations it in your opinion should switch?
>>
>> Always route the alarms to the loudspeakers and route "normal"
>> audio to the headphones if connected or to the loudspeakers if not?
>> Or make the alarm output configurable ("always loudspeakers", "always
>> headphones", "auto switch")
>
> Well, it goes to one place at the time. So, you're proposing that
> music would switch to loudspeakers when alarm comes and after alarm
> it would switch back to headphones? That could sound wierd...
>
In this case, this is the aspect I'm missing. If I understand you
correctly the routing of audio is at system level rather than at
application level? IOW switching the audio for one application
switches it for all? Anyway, when I started this thread, my intention
was to bring forth a problem that I have experienced that could
perhaps be addressed in a future hardware (despite the fact that the
routing can be software controlled the limitation is apparantly in the
hardware) release.
Having said that,knowing what I know now, I still think the built in
SIP client could have a more sensible logic behind where it's playing
its alarm than simply always playing it through the headphones if
these are connected. For example, returning to Eero's example and in
addition to Luca's suggestion: if there is audio in the headphones at
the time of the alarm route the alarm to the headphones, else to the
speakers. On the other hand, if you are listening to music while the
phone is ringing, you will want to turn it off before answering the
phone which somewhat eliminates the problem...
/h
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Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Hi,
ext Luca Olivetti wrote:
> El Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:48:35 +0200
> Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>
>> So, in which all situations it in your opinion should switch?
>
> Always route the alarms to the loudspeakers and route "normal"
> audio to the headphones if connected or to the loudspeakers if not?
> Or make the alarm output configurable ("always loudspeakers", "always
> headphones", "auto switch")
Well, it goes to one place at the time. So, you're proposing that
music would switch to loudspeakers when alarm comes and after alarm
it would switch back to headphones? That could sound wierd...
- Eero
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Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:48:35 +0200
> Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>
>> So, in which all situations it in your opinion should switch?
>
> Always route the alarms to the loudspeakers and route "normal"
> audio to the headphones if connected or to the loudspeakers if not?
> Or make the alarm output configurable ("always loudspeakers", "always
> headphones", "auto switch")
>
Something like that is what I would suggest too, but maybe I'm missing
something here?
/henrik
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Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Eero Tamminen wrote: > But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, > alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to > speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think > it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. Surely an incoming call should flash the LED or blink the screen or something if the headphones are plugged in? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
El Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:48:35 +0200
Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> So, in which all situations it in your opinion should switch?
Always route the alarms to the loudspeakers and route "normal"
audio to the headphones if connected or to the loudspeakers if not?
Or make the alarm output configurable ("always loudspeakers", "always
headphones", "auto switch")
Bye
--
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Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Hi, ext Henrik Frisk wrote: >>> This suggests it would be possible to reroute the audio of the ring >>> tone to the speaker while the headset is plugged in. >> But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, >> alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to >> speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think >> it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. >> > I would answer your question with another question: "Would you > remember to unplug the headset after each call?" and, at least for me, > the answer is "No." But obviously the solution should not be another > manual switch, but an automatic. So, in which all situations it in your opinion should switch? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Eero Tamminen wrote: >> But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, >> alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to >> speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think >> it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. > > This is also a problem on the desktop for VoIP applications - ideally > you would like to have sound profiles - "alarm" sounds go both to > speakers and headsets, and "application" sounds only go to the > headphones (if they're plugged in). > That's true, but the IT is not a desktop computer. > In a typical home office, I listen to music, but if I have to plug in my > headphones before answering a VoIP call, it's a pain in the rear. > I agree. Answering the phone only to ask the caller to hold while (s)he is forced to listen to crackles and pops while I plug in my headset is not a 2008-way of carrying out a phone call. VoIP is however :) /h ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
>> This suggests it would be possible to reroute the audio of the ring >> tone to the speaker while the headset is plugged in. > > But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, > alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to > speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think > it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. > I would answer your question with another question: "Would you remember to unplug the headset after each call?" and, at least for me, the answer is "No." But obviously the solution should not be another manual switch, but an automatic. What surprised me about the information above was that it *is* possible to "programmatically" route the audio independent on the hardware attached. /h ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
On 11/27/08, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Eero Tamminen wrote: > > But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, > > alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to > > speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think > > it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. > > > This is also a problem on the desktop for VoIP applications - ideally > you would like to have sound profiles - "alarm" sounds go both to > speakers and headsets, and "application" sounds only go to the > headphones (if they're plugged in). > > In a typical home office, I listen to music, but if I have to plug in my > headphones before answering a VoIP call, it's a pain in the rear. > > Cheers, > Dave. > You don't have to use headphones for VOIP - the tablet has a mic as well as speakers. THe swtching is automatic, so it's completely your choice whether to use headphones or not. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Hi, Eero Tamminen wrote: > But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, > alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to > speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think > it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. This is also a problem on the desktop for VoIP applications - ideally you would like to have sound profiles - "alarm" sounds go both to speakers and headsets, and "application" sounds only go to the headphones (if they're plugged in). In a typical home office, I listen to music, but if I have to plug in my headphones before answering a VoIP call, it's a pain in the rear. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
Hi, ext Henrik Frisk wrote: > Just after sending the above off I found this in the > http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-users/2008-July/022127.html: > > "You're mistaken :) The fm radio ui has buttons to toggle between speaker > and headphone output. As for the bt headset case, dunno." > > This suggests it would be possible to reroute the audio of the ring > tone to the speaker while the headset is plugged in. But not to both at the same time (i.e. music to headphones, alarm to speaker). Would you remember to switch sound to speakers when you take the headphones off your head? I think it's just easier to unplug the headphones from the device. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Headset plugged in disables ringtones
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Henrik Frisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before (didn't find anything > in the archives), but my apologies if it has. > > After updating to Diablo, the built in SIP client works even better > with my service. This enables me to receive and make calls from my > business number wherever I am. The result is I almost only use my > mobile for 3G connections. I use the headset that shipped with my N810 > which works fine. My only problem is that when plugged in the headset > (obviously) shuts down the speakers, with the unwanted side effect > that I will not hear ring tones unless I have the headset plug in my > ear (this is true whatever the client is (Skype, Gizmo, Ekiga... ). > > I guess this is hardware controlled, and that there is really no way > around it, but what is the situation with a BT headset? Is it > different, or is all audio similarily rerouted to the BT headset? > > Finally, I know the IT where not designed to be used as phones, but > now that they are usable as phones, it's a shame that practical issues > like this reduces their usability. > > best > > Henrik > Just after sending the above off I found this in the http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-users/2008-July/022127.html: "You're mistaken :) The fm radio ui has buttons to toggle between speaker and headphone output. As for the bt headset case, dunno." This suggests it would be possible to reroute the audio of the ring tone to the speaker while the headset is plugged in. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
