Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:39:31PM -0400, Norman Ramsey wrote: > > Don't just stew, vote for the bug here: > > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2850 Let Nokia know this is > happening > > to more people and you're not pleased. I can't believe we have only 5 > votes > > for this killer bug. > > Thank you so much for the pointer. I have tried and failed to vote > for this bug. Perhaps my experience will explain why it has received FYI, using my tablet, I created a bugzilla account, entered teh bug number above (2850) and voted for it. It probably took me 2.5 minutes. It's annoying yes, but something I've been meaning to do. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)
> Don't just stew, vote for the bug here: > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2850 Let Nokia know this is happening > to more people and you're not pleased. I can't believe we have only 5 votes > for this killer bug. Thank you so much for the pointer. I have tried and failed to vote for this bug. Perhaps my experience will explain why it has received so few votes: 1. Voting requires an account on yet another bugzilla. I overcome my annoyance and inertia and apply for an account. 2. Applying for an account sends a challenge message to my email address. 3. My employer's email server runs amavisd antivirus software, which misidentifies the challenge as a virus and refuses to deliver it. 4. I cannot vote. > There is a possible workaround too - turn on your bluetooth icon in the > taskbar. Leave it on... It may not be a 100% cure but it seems to help a > lot for most people. My bluetooth icon is always on; no luck there, I'm afraid. I've also tried turning it off and on again. Norman ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems
> > 1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the > > Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion > > feature ... > > > > 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the > > on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work > > Which bug(s) did you report on these issues? None. On average I file about 20 bug reports a month. I have a backlog. Debian bugs get highest priority because they are easiest to report. Bugzilla bugs get lowest priority because they often require a challenge/response in order to report a bug, I must remember a password, and I have to use the mouse, which hurts my hands. If you want bug reports, make bugs easy to report! Norman ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems
>> 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the >> on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work. >> Even when the BT keyboard is put away and turned off, attempts to >> use the stylus keyboard produce only a black bar at the bottom of >> the screen with the letters Abc at the far right. The only cure >> is to reboot the machine. This is not specific to BT keyboards. This is true of USB keyboards as well, although I don't even get the black bar. It just doesn't respond to anything that normally would pop up an onscreen keyboard. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems
"Kevin T. Neely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 09:29:24PM -0400, Norman Ramsey wrote: >> 1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the >> Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion > > I have seen this. Cannot figure out what causes it, either. I am > only really typing txt messages and such, so it is not much of an > issue forme, although it takes up valuable screen real-estate. Try shift-space. See this bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2474 You can try to manually get around this problem with: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /system/osso/af/slide-open false That will fake the closing of the slide keyboard that the N800 doesn't have and get rid of the word completion bar. >> 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the >> on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work. >> Even when the BT keyboard is put away and turned off, attempts to >> use the stylus keyboard produce only a black bar at the bottom of Also in the bug above. You can get around this with the following command: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /system/osso/af/keyboard-attached false That'll force the system into thinking there's no keyboard attached. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems
Hi, ext Kevin T. Neely wrote: > I also have a #3: > > 3. Sometimes, when I switch the keyboard on, > the first couple letters I type cause the entire > tablet to halt for a second, minimizes all the > applications, and the desktop applets disappear. I think this is Desktop crashing and system restarting it. When Desktop notices that it has been restarted by the system, it intentionally disables all applets. This is to prevent bad applets from causing device to go into reboot loop. > A reboot brings everything back. > > Until then, the device seems to operate well enough, > but I try to reboot asap. I think you have a bad applet on your desktop. Rebooting doesn't help more, the Desktop restart already got rid of it. :-) - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 09:29:24PM -0400, Norman Ramsey wrote: > 1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the > Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion I have seen this. Cannot figure out what causes it, either. I am only really typing txt messages and such, so it is not much of an issue forme, although it takes up valuable screen real-estate. Since moving to OS2008, I have not done much major typing through the shell. If I were, and if this happened, it would definitely be a pain. > 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the > on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work. > Even when the BT keyboard is put away and turned off, attempts to > use the stylus keyboard produce only a black bar at the bottom of I have yet to see this, thankfully I also have a #3: 3. Sometimes, when I switch the keyboard on, the first couple letters I type cause the entire tablet to halt for a second, minimizes all the applications, and the desktop applets disappear. (It reminds me of when explorer.exe crashes on a Win2k/XP machine). A reboot brings everything back. Until then, the device seems to operate well enough, but I try to reboot asap. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems
Hi, ext Norman Ramsey wrote: > > Thanks, Tony, and to everyone else. Because I rely so heavily on my N800 > > for day-to-day operations, I'm very hesitant about doing anything that will > > impact that. I have no problem with re-installing the software (although I > > don't want to) but wanted to make sure the tools I use are there. > > I would definitely encourage you *not* to upgrade. In addition to the > touch-screen problems already mentioned, my OS2008 'upgrade' has had > the following disastrous effect on my Igo Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard: > > 1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the > Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion > feature used with the stylus keyboard. This is so slow (I type > 75 words per minute on a kinesis so probably half that on the > stowaway) that the keyboard becomes useless because the N800 > can't keep up. > > 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the > on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work. > Even when the BT keyboard is put away and turned off, attempts to > use the stylus keyboard produce only a black bar at the bottom of > the screen with the letters Abc at the far right. The only cure > is to reboot the machine. > > I can't tell you how angry I am about this. For me one of the > great benefits of the N800 is that it's always on, always > connected. I mostly use the stylus but can easily connect a > keyboard if I have to write a long email. Now that's all gone; > every time I think about the external keyboard I have to think > about whether I'm going to give up all my external state and > reboot. > > If these problems aren't fixed in the next release of OS2008 I'm just > going to punt and go back to OS2007, which at least worked. Which bug(s) did you report on these issues? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
