Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:49:29 +0100 Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's half-a-gazillion DAAP servers available. > > its true -- and so far the 3 i have tried are nightmares to install due > to missing libraries and dependencies! Man i hate Linux sometimes. > > libhowl seems to be the one that is causing the grief! uShare (a UPnP Media Server) works for me, with kilikali on the default platform media player. -jh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
> There's half-a-gazillion DAAP servers available. its true -- and so far the 3 i have tried are nightmares to install due to missing libraries and dependencies! Man i hate Linux sometimes. libhowl seems to be the one that is causing the grief! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 14:06 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote: > Thanks Marty, but isn't an elegant solution. > > You still require a browser to control your playlist etc. So as a > solution it rates no higher than what i have with SlimServer. Rhythmbox/Banshee/Muine/a DAAP server on the server machine, and Canola as the N800 front-end should work, although I didn't have much luck myself. You can probably hack an SSH tunnel if you want to export your music across the internet. -- Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 14:22 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote: > > Rhythmbox/Banshee/Muine/a DAAP server on the server machine, and Canola > > as the N800 front-end should work, although I didn't have much luck > > myself. > > These [Rhythmbox/Banshee/Muine/] are all desktop apps for GNOME; this > isn't what i want. The Linux server is a headless machine. I don't > want to play any music on the Linux machine. I want to play it on the N800. There's half-a-gazillion DAAP servers available. > I need to get music to the N800 from the network, without using a > browser to control it. Seems like such a kludge! Again, Canola can do that, just install a DAAP server on your machine. -- Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
> Rhythmbox/Banshee/Muine/a DAAP server on the server machine, and Canola > as the N800 front-end should work, although I didn't have much luck > myself. These [Rhythmbox/Banshee/Muine/] are all desktop apps for GNOME; this isn't what i want. The Linux server is a headless machine. I don't want to play any music on the Linux machine. I want to play it on the N800. I need to get music to the N800 from the network, without using a browser to control it. Seems like such a kludge! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
Thanks Marty, but isn't an elegant solution. You still require a browser to control your playlist etc. So as a solution it rates no higher than what i have with SlimServer. the quest continues Marty Skitch wrote: > I just started to use gnump3d and I have been happy with it so far. > Setup took 10 minutes and I was able to browse to my music and I was > able to play my music. I have not tried it with video so I can not > comment on that yet. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
I just started to use gnump3d and I have been happy with it so far. Setup took 10 minutes and I was able to browse to my music and I was able to play my music. I have not tried it with video so I can not comment on that yet. Marty Skitch Josh Smith wrote: Did you search internettablettalk.com? Mounting has been discussed quite a bit, and I know it can be done. I am not sure how well it works for accessing media though, as the transfer rates may not be good enough. When I had cifs set up I never tried this. There are also other streaming programs, e.g. tversity. Good luck, and be sure to report back what worked for you. On 7/27/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. My Setup: Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with samba running at the moment. So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? Ideally i would like to mount my share point on the N800; but i have failed to do that, and having asked the question in this forum a week or so ago, it appears no one else has an answer to that. So what are my other options? I am currently streaming it using SlimServer, but that is clunky as hell, as i have to have a browser open and then connect to a streamed MP3. Doesn't for videos though. I tried to use UnPNP (installing a UnPNP server on linux) but that was such a horrible way of doing things. What are other people doing? -- Alan Williamson "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
Did you search internettablettalk.com? Mounting has been discussed quite a bit, and I know it can be done. I am not sure how well it works for accessing media though, as the transfer rates may not be good enough. When I had cifs set up I never tried this. There are also other streaming programs, e.g. tversity. Good luck, and be sure to report back what worked for you. On 7/27/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. > > My Setup: > Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with samba running > at the moment. > > > So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? > > > Ideally i would like to mount my share point on the N800; but i have > failed to do that, and having asked the question in this forum a week or > so ago, it appears no one else has an answer to that. > > > So what are my other options? I am currently streaming it using > SlimServer, but that is clunky as hell, as i have to have a browser open > and then connect to a streamed MP3. Doesn't for videos though. > > > I tried to use UnPNP (installing a UnPNP server on linux) but that was > such a horrible way of doing things. > > > What are other people doing? > > -- > Alan Williamson > "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ > > b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On 7/27/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's half-a-gazillion DAAP servers available. > > its true -- and so far the 3 i have tried are nightmares to install due > to missing libraries and dependencies! Man i hate Linux sometimes. > What distro are you using? > libhowl seems to be the one that is causing the grief! I believe libhowl has been replaced by avahi (maybe just renamed?) in recent builds.. If you can get mt-daapd installed, I think that will get you what you're looking for. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
Hi Alan, I had tried once: http://www.gnu.org/software/gmediaserver/ It is just a command line interface, but it worked to me (besides I didn't use the Nokia to listen to music). If your library is too large it will take a long time until the server be available. Video streamer seems to be not working. If you found something to stream videos, please, let me know. Leonardo. 2007/7/27, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. > > My Setup: > Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with samba running > at the moment. > > > So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? > > > Ideally i would like to mount my share point on the N800; but i have > failed to do that, and having asked the question in this forum a week or > so ago, it appears no one else has an answer to that. > > > So what are my other options? I am currently streaming it using > SlimServer, but that is clunky as hell, as i have to have a browser open > and then connect to a streamed MP3. Doesn't for videos though. > > > I tried to use UnPNP (installing a UnPNP server on linux) but that was > such a horrible way of doing things. > > > What are other people doing? > > -- > Alan Williamson > "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ > > b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Friday 27 July 2007, Alan Williamson wrote: > Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. > > My Setup: > Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with samba running > at the moment. > So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? mp3s just play from regular ol' http just fine in the media player. > Ideally i would like to mount my share point on the N800; but i have > failed to do that, and having asked the question in this forum a week or > so ago, it appears no one else has an answer to that. There are a number of jukebox web apps. I am using netjuke, which is old. Of course, the reliable fallback is directory indexes served up by a webserver. > So what are my other options? I am currently streaming it using > SlimServer, but that is clunky as hell, as i have to have a browser open > and then connect to a streamed MP3. Surely some jukebox web apps will play in the web page with Flash MP3 streaming. There are even online services trying to make a business out of it with tools for syncing--say mp3tunes.com and oboe. > Doesn't for videos though. Ah, well, I have found that mp4 files muxed by gpac MP4Box (but not ffmpeg or mp4creator) are playing progressive download via http! If totem browser plugin were ported, we'd be stylin' and could embed it in a web app. $ mp4info n800-2.mp4 mp4info version 1.2 n800-2.mp4: Track TypeInfo 201 video MPEG-4 Simple @ L1, 54.589 secs, 503 kbps, 320x240 @ 29.97 fps 101 audio MPEG-4 AAC LC, 54.464 secs, 64 kbps, 32000 Hz Not as good quality as mp4, but the browser plays .swf files in the browser over http, and ffmpeg can transcode to swf or flv. gallery2 support flash video: http://codex.gallery2.org/Gallery2:Modules:flashvideo Here is an example: http://www.4wiseguys.com/G2Bridge/index.php?&g2_itemId=483 You can make a script to transcode anything to your desired format. I can give you an example. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
Thanks Dan, however this all requires you control it using a web browser; i already have that setup with SlimServer. i don't want to have to juggle a media+player and the web+browser on my N800 while listening to music. Its clunky and in today's modern age, we should demand something sexier!! :) I have been playing with USHARE and so far thats *not* too bad -- however it croaks on certain directories which i am not sure why. So i will investigate that. On the N800 front: Canola and MediaPlayer are both performing well; but the MediaStreamer refuses to find the USHARE server. On this journey, it has taught me one thing; this isn't for the faint hearted; setting up this little device to do something as simple as streaming from your music collection is not for the casual user. This is yet another hole in the N800 armour in terms of mass adoption. Dan Dennedy wrote: > On Friday 27 July 2007, Alan Williamson wrote: >> Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. >> >> My Setup: >> Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with samba running >> at the moment. >> So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? > > mp3s just play from regular ol' http just fine in the media player. > >> Ideally i would like to mount my share point on the N800; but i have >> failed to do that, and having asked the question in this forum a week or >> so ago, it appears no one else has an answer to that. > > There are a number of jukebox web apps. I am using netjuke, which is old. Of > course, the reliable fallback is directory indexes served up by a webserver. > >> So what are my other options? I am currently streaming it using >> SlimServer, but that is clunky as hell, as i have to have a browser open >> and then connect to a streamed MP3. > > Surely some jukebox web apps will play in the web page with Flash MP3 > streaming. There are even online services trying to make a business out of it > with tools for syncing--say mp3tunes.com and oboe. > >> Doesn't for videos though. > > Ah, well, I have found that mp4 files muxed by gpac MP4Box (but not ffmpeg or > mp4creator) are playing progressive download via http! If totem browser > plugin were ported, we'd be stylin' and could embed it in a web app. > > $ mp4info n800-2.mp4 > mp4info version 1.2 > n800-2.mp4: > Track TypeInfo > 201 video MPEG-4 Simple @ L1, 54.589 secs, 503 kbps, 320x240 @ 29.97 fps > 101 audio MPEG-4 AAC LC, 54.464 secs, 64 kbps, 32000 Hz > > Not as good quality as mp4, but the browser plays .swf files in the browser > over http, and ffmpeg can transcode to swf or flv. > > gallery2 support flash video: > http://codex.gallery2.org/Gallery2:Modules:flashvideo > > Here is an example: > http://www.4wiseguys.com/G2Bridge/index.php?&g2_itemId=483 > > You can make a script to transcode anything to your desired format. I can > give > you an example. > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Friday 27 July 2007, Alan Williamson wrote: > Thanks Dan, however this all requires you control it using a web > browser; i already have that setup with SlimServer. > > i don't want to have to juggle a media+player and the web+browser on my > N800 while listening to music. Its clunky and in today's modern age, we > should demand something sexier!! :) canola certainly fits that bill. I was trying to suggest a browser-based experience--not requiring the media player--with a hint that there should be a media player browser plugin. > I have been playing with USHARE and so far thats *not* too bad -- > however it croaks on certain directories which i am not sure why. So i > will investigate that. I too will check it out. I am testing gmediaserver (audio only afaik); it was easy to compile and run. However, I am not getting reliable results. mythtv is a upnp server, but I only use it as a backend for recording, and its not setup for sharing my other media. I will explore that one next. > On the N800 front: Canola and MediaPlayer are both performing well; but > the MediaStreamer refuses to find the USHARE server. > > On this journey, it has taught me one thing; this isn't for the faint > hearted; setting up this little device to do something as simple as > streaming from your music collection is not for the casual user. This > is yet another hole in the N800 armour in terms of mass adoption. well, don't forget that once canola and a server like ushare are working good, except for mp3, you need to setup transcoding especially for Ogg Vorbis and video. ushare calls a upnp server that does transcoding on-the-fly a "media adapter." ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
Au contraire... instant on with Windows Connect and WM10? as servers. This may not be what masses who own N800 have, but I've found Win XP stable for all but media center (HD) activity. I own a WM5 8525 phone as well aso a Win box comes in handy! I'll try Myth tomorrow. mike Alan Williamson wrote: > . . . > On this journey, it has taught me one thing; this isn't for the faint > hearted; setting up this little device to do something as simple as > streaming from your music collection is not for the casual user. This > is yet another hole in the N800 armour in terms of mass adoption. > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
And every Nokia upnp client app (Canola, Media Streamer) worked like a charm. Mike Klein wrote: > Au contraire... instant on with Windows Connect and WM10? as servers. > This may not be what masses who own N800 have, but I've found Win XP > stable for all but media center (HD) activity. > > I own a WM5 8525 phone as well aso a Win box comes in handy! > > I'll try Myth tomorrow. > > > mike > > Alan Williamson wrote: > >> . . . >> On this journey, it has taught me one thing; this isn't for the faint >> hearted; setting up this little device to do something as simple as >> streaming from your music collection is not for the casual user. This >> is yet another hole in the N800 armour in terms of mass adoption. >> >> >> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:46:40 +0100 Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay good N800'ers what are my options here. > > My Setup: > Shed loads of MP3's/Videos sitting on a Linux server with > samba running at the moment. > > > So how can i effectively access those files from my N800? Mediatomb is a good upnp server, it can be configured using a web browser. It will stream music, pictures and video and works with the n800 and ps3. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
I've started a little research project to figure out the best setup for streaming media to N800. Check it out at: http://nedim.cholich.com/2007/06/upnp-servers-and-n800.html There is a lot more to cover. One thing I would say however so far is that on Windows WMP works the best. Also note about MythTV, although it has built in upnp server it does _not_ work with N800 nor many other software upnp renderers. It's real shame since I have tone of content on MythTV including tv shows and movies etc. If you all can help with comments on what works and what doesn't maybe we can have definitive list of server/player combinations. Another thing is I'm not sure if players share common upnp library or not and how many players have it implemented separately of the os. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On Monday 30 July 2007 11:21, Nedim Cholich wrote: > I've started a little research project to figure out the best setup for > streaming media to N800. Check it out at: > > http://nedim.cholich.com/2007/06/upnp-servers-and-n800.html Is it a good idea to limit yourself to UPNP? I have been looking for a solution to streaming my music across a routed network (and, eventually, across my VPN). If anyone has a solution for that I am very interested. At the moment it looks like DAAP may be more likely to provide the solution than UPNP (although there is no good free daap client for Windows, unfortunately). My understanding is that daap can do it if the client can be told the server address -- unfortunately Canola doesn't seem to allow that. I also found a solution to provide remote daap services over tunnels using SSH or stunnel (see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-187145.html) which I think might work with Canola if only I could find avahi-utils for Maemo. So, it looks like daap might work one day. Which is more than I was able to say when I tried using UPNP. Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Streaming Music to the N800
On 7/30/07, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the moment it looks like DAAP may be more likely to provide the solution > than UPNP (although there is no good free daap client for Windows, > unfortunately). DAAP is the protocol used by iTunes. iTunes runs on Windows. So do other DAAP clients that run on Windows, like jTunes, OurTunes, Get It Together, and LimeWire. mathew ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
