Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, then jalimo packages and even thisi PhoneMeAdvance package will do what you want. try it out... might be worth your time. regards, wahlau On 05/11/2007, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frantisek Dufka wrote: Peter Flynn wrote: Wahlau - wrote: Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. Not sure if it was already suggested but you may also check this http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Mobileandembedded/PhoneMEAdvancedPlatformsNokia800 Again it looks interesting, but what I'm looking for seems to be a plain vanilla copy of Java ME for the N800. No GUI, no embedded bells and whistles. I want to be able to type java -jar something.jar at the commandline and have it executed. Has anyone compiled Jave ME for the N800, does anyone know? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Wahlau - wrote: Hi, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. then jalimo can do it. i tried it via command line and stuffs that works for us on desktop ran well on N800 too. I'll give it a try, thanks. Hmmm. Their one-click install hangs Osso Application Manager. Time to use apt. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Peter Flynn wrote: Wahlau - wrote: Hi, have you tried Jalimo? I'll give it a try, thanks. OK, I take it back. This does the job really nicely. Kudos to Jalimo. Running Saxon on large DocBook documents to generate LaTeX is a very nontrivial piece of XSLT, and Jalimo didn't drop a bit. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, glad to hear that. And its speed is considered as still ok. When the GUI part is done, i expect some can also start porting java software over. enjoy. regards, wahlau On 07/11/2007, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Flynn wrote: Wahlau - wrote: Hi, have you tried Jalimo? I'll give it a try, thanks. OK, I take it back. This does the job really nicely. Kudos to Jalimo. Running Saxon on large DocBook documents to generate LaTeX is a very nontrivial piece of XSLT, and Jalimo didn't drop a bit. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. then jalimo can do it. i tried it via command line and stuffs that works for us on desktop ran well on N800 too. regards, wahlau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Peter Flynn wrote: Wahlau - wrote: Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. Not sure if it was already suggested but you may also check this http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Mobileandembedded/PhoneMEAdvancedPlatformsNokia800 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Frantisek Dufka wrote: Peter Flynn wrote: Wahlau - wrote: Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. Not sure if it was already suggested but you may also check this http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Mobileandembedded/PhoneMEAdvancedPlatformsNokia800 Again it looks interesting, but what I'm looking for seems to be a plain vanilla copy of Java ME for the N800. No GUI, no embedded bells and whistles. I want to be able to type java -jar something.jar at the commandline and have it executed. Has anyone compiled Jave ME for the N800, does anyone know? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 17:29 -0700, ext DrFredC.com wrote: after a reboot. I tried to locate the RSS files on my Nokia to see if perhaps deleting something might clear things up, but couldn't find where the RSS stuff is located. It's in /home/user/.osso_rss_feed_reader/feedlist.opml if I remember correctly. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:15:19AM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: If you want to use larger memory cards, please make sure that your N800 contains the latest release. Earlier releases could corrupt = 2GB cards: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html Hm, was that bug only for = 2GB cards? I had a 512MB SD card die completely in my N800's external slot. Interesting. Of 2GB cards, I had heard of only one 1GB card dying and that was with a very early internal Chinook kernel version so it could have been also something else besides bug 1024 (like broken test kernel or otherwise broken card). The bug wasn't related to card size per se, it was related to how much power the card requires from the MMC port, what it does after it has acknowledged receiving the data written to it and how it reacts if it gets less power while not being used. It's just that the larger cards in general use more power (and are more fragile?), but that differs a *lot* between different cards/models of even same size. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 06:07:31PM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:15:19AM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: If you want to use larger memory cards, please make sure that your N800 contains the latest release. Earlier releases could corrupt = 2GB cards: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html Hm, was that bug only for = 2GB cards? I had a 512MB SD card die completely in my N800's external slot. Interesting. Of 2GB cards, I had heard of only one 1GB card dying and that was with a very early internal Chinook kernel version so it could have been also something else besides bug 1024 (like broken test kernel or otherwise broken card). My card was this one: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204#c37 (I always misread the bug number as 1024 too ;-) The bug wasn't related to card size per se, it was related to how much power the card requires from the MMC port, what it does after it has acknowledged receiving the data written to it and how it reacts if it gets less power while not being used. It's just that the larger cards in general use more power (and are more fragile?), but that differs a *lot* between different cards/models of even same size. As long as it wasn't a matter of SD versus SDHC, I can hope that the card-killer bug is gone. Marius Gedminas -- MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
En/na Jonathan Greene ha escrit: You'll be able to pair and use a headset for VOIP ... works great! What about A2DP for normal stereo sound output by any application? I thought of buying an A2DP receiver to leave in my car and connect to the car stereo, so to lessen the wear tear on the headphone socket and to avoid an extra cable in sight. I know that there's an hack to do that with the current (OS2007) version, but I read it sucks too much cpu and it only works with some applications. Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... regards, wahlau. On 31/10/2007, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred Chittenden wrote: My n800 has almost replaced my laptop. I'd be set to go that far...if I can find a Java that runs on the N800. I need to run Saxon, which requires a JRE. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Hi, ext Jon Dodson wrote: ive checked the specs and pricing on the n800 and i was wondering if anyone had some honest feedback after using it for a few months++. The review sites rate it based on a few days of use(if that) and thats not a really good review of how good or bad it is. i am a power user who plans on installing apt, bash, ssh(client) and mplayer, etc to get stuff to work like it were a small(form factor) laptop. with that specifically: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? does the battery life degrade over time badly? Largest effect on the battery consumption is from WLAN access points that don't implement the WLAN power management properly[1] any 3rd party stuff that you install if that SW contains something that constantly does things on the background or uses network often. [1] I think maemo.org contains somewhere a list of these broken WLAN AP devices which you could avoid. did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). If you want to use larger memory cards, please make sure that your N800 contains the latest release. Earlier releases could corrupt = 2GB cards: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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I use N800 as a control panel for open source home automation systems Plutohome and LinuxMCE. It works much better then 770. Moreover, one friend of mine managed to setup it as Asterisk soft phone. It works like a charm. As I see N810 is more appropriate choice for personal using: slide keyboard and built-in GPS are very useful. But N800 now is just $250! So, it's a good opportunity to buy it. On 10/30/07, Jon Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive checked the specs and pricing on the n800 and i was wondering if anyone had some honest feedback after using it for a few months++. The review sites rate it based on a few days of use(if that) and thats not a really good review of how good or bad it is. i am a power user who plans on installing apt, bash, ssh(client) and mplayer, etc to get stuff to work like it were a small(form factor) laptop. with that specifically: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? does the battery life degrade over time badly? did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). appreciate the feedback(if any). -- -jon http://www.jdodson.org http://youtube.com/jbdodson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:26:12PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: flights listening to the Greatful Dead while playing Aisle Riot. Grateful Dead will solve all problems. Back side of future device has to show Jerry's face in front and haze on the screen. Haha, I would by that special edition version. Is that to compete with the PSP that has Darth Vader on the back cover? K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:15:19AM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: If you want to use larger memory cards, please make sure that your N800 contains the latest release. Earlier releases could corrupt = 2GB cards: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html Hm, was that bug only for = 2GB cards? I had a 512MB SD card die completely in my N800's external slot. Marius Gedminas -- This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't. -- Douglas Hofstadter signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Wahlau - wrote: Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of Java-like GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Steve Yelvington wrote: Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead You should have :-) Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws Claws needs a keyboard if you want to read news, unfortunately. They squandered the toolbar on functions newspeople don't need or want instead of providing those they do (Next Unread, Kill Thread, Mark All Read, etc), which is a pity, because otherwise it's an excellent piece of software. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Mike Klein wrote: Hasn't sun recently released a java for linux/arm? I can't find that. There are 50+ links on java.sun.com to *building* Java and assorted variants for ARM on a Linux platform, but nothing about a product. Do you know of a link to it? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Here it is...goog'd on some keywords in tar I have and found: http://java.sun.com/j2se/embedded/survey.html?download=arm You must answer survey before getting access. mike Peter Flynn wrote: Mike Klein wrote: Hasn't sun recently released a java for linux/arm? I can't find that. There are 50+ links on java.sun.com to *building* Java and assorted variants for ARM on a Linux platform, but nothing about a product. Do you know of a link to it? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Peter Flynn wrote: Steve Yelvington wrote: Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead You should have :-) Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws Claws needs a keyboard if you want to read news, unfortunately. They squandered the toolbar on functions newspeople don't need or want instead of providing those they do (Next Unread, Kill Thread, Mark All Read, etc), which is a pity, because otherwise it's an excellent piece of software. I find the Claws RSS plug to be pretty lame on the n800, Claws email is fine. At least at this point in time. Beware this could change next week or month with an update of some sort. Nothing is set in stone -- development on many fronts is moving along at a decent pace considering how much of it is being done by a volunteer workforce. I find the included n800s RSS reader fine for my limited RSS uses of about 10 sources (local and national news, sports, politics). I like how it pops up to enter info for the reader when you click RSS feed on some site. Fine print -- While the Nokia n800 RSS reader has been fine for me for about two months, two nights ago it mysteriously locked itself up. Everything else worked -- only the RSS reader was just locked up, even after a reboot. I tried to locate the RSS files on my Nokia to see if perhaps deleting something might clear things up, but couldn't find where the RSS stuff is located. I resorted to restoring a backup file from a week ago, which cleared everything up. I only had to import an updated email address book to the included email program to get other settings back to 'normal'. Since I use Claws most of the time for email, that really wasn't necessary. Reading between the lines -- there's a few things left to iron out with various n800 programs and interfaces. Nothing new here -- most everything works fine. With the limited set of n800 apps I currently use, I get much fewer mysterious crashes with my n800 than your typical MS Windows machine. But stuff happens... -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
n800 user reviews
ive checked the specs and pricing on the n800 and i was wondering if anyone had some honest feedback after using it for a few months++. The review sites rate it based on a few days of use(if that) and thats not a really good review of how good or bad it is. i am a power user who plans on installing apt, bash, ssh(client) and mplayer, etc to get stuff to work like it were a small(form factor) laptop. with that specifically: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? does the battery life degrade over time badly? did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). appreciate the feedback(if any). -- -jon http://www.jdodson.org http://youtube.com/jbdodson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Jon Dodson wrote: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. The normal USB setup is for mounting the N800's SD cards as drives on a PC. There's been some discussion on this list of running the N800 in host mode, but that would require some cable magic and I'm unclear about the success rate. If anyone has been able to plug the N800 into a digital camera I'd love to hear about it. Any experience with something like this? http://www.delkin.com/products/connect/usbbridge/ do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? Haven't tried. The N800 has worked with every set of wired headphones I've used, though. battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead while playing Aisle Riot. does the battery life degrade over time badly? Not so far. The battery is a standard removable/replaceable Nokia BP-5L, which runs $30 to $50 at online retailers. did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). Not so far. But I haven't stocked it up with video. I am using the internal card primarily for swap and the external SD for media files. how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws mail). I think the upcoming revision of the UI (created for the 810) is a significant visual improvement and look forward to the upgrade. In general, I use mine pretty much as a toy, for checking mail and looking up stuff on Google/Wikipedia while wandering around, and for Skype. Being able to call home practically free from Europe while not having to drag out the laptop was very nice. When I can't find an open wifi point, the N800 easily connects through my Nokia cellphone to T-Mobile's EDGE/GPRS network. Setting that up took about 90 seconds and all the T-Mobile magic was preconfigured for me. Most network providers are included. VERY well done! Overall, though, if I had no laptop I'd make that my first priority, especially with Wal-Mart selling a basic Acer for about the same price as I paid for my N800. The very small form factor of the N800 has advantages, but I find it much too small for any extended work. YMMV. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Thanks for the feedback Steve! I don't plan on using as a total laptop replacement, so that was a bit of a misnomer I guess. I plan on really using it to surf the web, watch video and do some more advanced stuff from a slim device. I run linux @ home so having a device like that is what I want to roll with. I traveled this year and a friend had a cellphone that could do internet, that was cool. I realized I wanted to surf the web from a small device but I dont want the phone. Ive had laptops in the past but they are just a bit too big to stuff in a hiking/travel bag :) On Oct 30, 2007 12:42 PM, Steve Yelvington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Dodson wrote: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. The normal USB setup is for mounting the N800's SD cards as drives on a PC. There's been some discussion on this list of running the N800 in host mode, but that would require some cable magic and I'm unclear about the success rate. If anyone has been able to plug the N800 into a digital camera I'd love to hear about it. Any experience with something like this? http://www.delkin.com/products/connect/usbbridge/ do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? Haven't tried. The N800 has worked with every set of wired headphones I've used, though. battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead while playing Aisle Riot. does the battery life degrade over time badly? Not so far. The battery is a standard removable/replaceable Nokia BP-5L, which runs $30 to $50 at online retailers. did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). Not so far. But I haven't stocked it up with video. I am using the internal card primarily for swap and the external SD for media files. how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws mail). I think the upcoming revision of the UI (created for the 810) is a significant visual improvement and look forward to the upgrade. In general, I use mine pretty much as a toy, for checking mail and looking up stuff on Google/Wikipedia while wandering around, and for Skype. Being able to call home practically free from Europe while not having to drag out the laptop was very nice. When I can't find an open wifi point, the N800 easily connects through my Nokia cellphone to T-Mobile's EDGE/GPRS network. Setting that up took about 90 seconds and all the T-Mobile magic was preconfigured for me. Most network providers are included. VERY well done! Overall, though, if I had no laptop I'd make that my first priority, especially with Wal-Mart selling a basic Acer for about the same price as I paid for my N800. The very small form factor of the N800 has advantages, but I find it much too small for any extended work. YMMV. -- -jon http://www.jdodson.org http://youtube.com/jbdodson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Jon - I've written a fair bit about the tablet here - http://tinyurl.com/yw9b6e and here - http://www.maemoapps.com While not as geeky as you ... Mac guy on the desktop. The tablet will easily fill your need for the mobile internet / media player - watch though watch how you encode stuff (particularly video). You might find you want a nice bluetooth capable phone so you don't have to rely on wifi ... I get a really nice HSDPA signal when I head into NYC from my house and it's super quick on the tablet. Like walking wifi! EDGE works fine too for basic browsing, email and feed reading, but streaming needs more juice... On 10/30/07, Jon Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the feedback Steve! I don't plan on using as a total laptop replacement, so that was a bit of a misnomer I guess. I plan on really using it to surf the web, watch video and do some more advanced stuff from a slim device. I run linux @ home so having a device like that is what I want to roll with. I traveled this year and a friend had a cellphone that could do internet, that was cool. I realized I wanted to surf the web from a small device but I dont want the phone. Ive had laptops in the past but they are just a bit too big to stuff in a hiking/travel bag :) On Oct 30, 2007 12:42 PM, Steve Yelvington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Dodson wrote: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. The normal USB setup is for mounting the N800's SD cards as drives on a PC. There's been some discussion on this list of running the N800 in host mode, but that would require some cable magic and I'm unclear about the success rate. If anyone has been able to plug the N800 into a digital camera I'd love to hear about it. Any experience with something like this? http://www.delkin.com/products/connect/usbbridge/ do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? Haven't tried. The N800 has worked with every set of wired headphones I've used, though. battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? Maybe just a tad optimistic, but I've had no issues on long airplane flights listening to the Greatful Dead while playing Aisle Riot. does the battery life degrade over time badly? Not so far. The battery is a standard removable/replaceable Nokia BP-5L, which runs $30 to $50 at online retailers. did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). Not so far. But I haven't stocked it up with video. I am using the internal card primarily for swap and the external SD for media files. how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). Not bad overall. It's more stylus-friendly than finger-friendly overall, especially when using some of the contrib applications (i.e. Claws mail). I think the upcoming revision of the UI (created for the 810) is a significant visual improvement and look forward to the upgrade. In general, I use mine pretty much as a toy, for checking mail and looking up stuff on Google/Wikipedia while wandering around, and for Skype. Being able to call home practically free from Europe while not having to drag out the laptop was very nice. When I can't find an open wifi point, the N800 easily connects through my Nokia cellphone to T-Mobile's EDGE/GPRS network. Setting that up took about 90 seconds and all the T-Mobile magic was preconfigured for me. Most network providers are included. VERY well done! Overall, though, if I had no laptop I'd make that my first priority, especially with Wal-Mart selling a basic Acer for about the same price as I paid for my N800. The very small form factor of the N800 has advantages, but I find it much too small for any extended work. YMMV. -- -jon http://www.jdodson.org http://youtube.com/jbdodson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
On Oct 30, 2007 1:47 PM, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon - I've written a fair bit about the tablet here - http://tinyurl.com/yw9b6e and here - http://www.maemoapps.com Thanks for that I will check it out. http://www.maemoapps.com works fine too for basic browsing, email and feed reading, but streaming needs more juice... Well I want to use it to stream flash with the browser, how does that fare? -- -jon http://www.jdodson.org http://youtube.com/jbdodson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Fred Chittenden wrote: My n800 has almost replaced my laptop. I'd be set to go that far...if I can find a Java that runs on the N800. I need to run Saxon, which requires a JRE. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Fred -- get ready to really be happy with either your current N800 or the new N810 (see below) On 10/30/07, Fred Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:54:19 -0700 Jon Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive checked the specs and pricing on the n800 and i was wondering if anyone had some honest feedback after using it for a few months++. The review sites rate it based on a few days of use(if that) and thats not a really good review of how good or bad it is. i am a power user who plans on installing apt, bash, ssh(client) and mplayer, etc to get stuff to work like it were a small(form factor) laptop. with that specifically: can i plug in usb stuff to it? i can get usb converters i dont care about that. do bluetooth headsets work with it? as in you got something to work? if so what kind? battery is advertised to be about 3 hours for wifi and 5 for video, does that seem to mesh with your experience? does the battery life degrade over time badly? did you find yourself needing more than the two flash card slots? do you use more than 4 gigs of storage(2 gig sd seems cheap now). how is the UI overall? i can console but i do enjoy ease of use(i find gnome easy to use). appreciate the feedback(if any). My n800 has almost replaced my laptop. I use the n800 about 70% of the time I'd otherwise have used my laptop. * I carry it almost everywhere since I can almost always find an open wifi signal in a few minutes if I want to hook up. * It's good, not great at youtube like stuff, It doesn't do quicktime movies, so far. The new update to the OS and Browser with Flash 9 make this considerably better. Flash is smooth on YouTube and you can do MP4 now as well. *No blue tooth earphones -- but then that would cut battery life, especially if one attemped wifi internet and blue tooth ear phones at the same time. I'll err on the side of battery life, besides the n800 ear phones are also the fm radio antenna. You'll be able to pair and use a headset for VOIP ... works great! Sure it uses a bit of battery, but you can choose to use it when you need it rather than leaving it on all the time. *No office suite, so far. Google Docs is a default bookmark on the new unit (and I presume in the firmware in general). The site works remarkably well this time around and is something I've been really using much more on my desktop since I can easily access things as they are from the tablet. *It worked great in Europe phoning home (USA) at 1.2 cents a minute using gismo project. Skype, Gizmo and Gtalk are built in and you can also add additional SIP service accounts if you like and need them. It boots up quickly, or you can suspend key and screen for immediate access with long battery life. Finding the N810 boots even more quickly -- though to be honest I don't ever turn it off. *The desktop is easy to organize to read emails and rss's. This alone saves me perhaps 30 minutes a day, before I get out of bed. *Games are mediocre, but enough to fill gaps. I'll probably bite on the n810with the key board in a few months after the price moderates and pass the n800 on to my daughter or wife. -- Always Fred Chittenden, DDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
