Re: [Mageia-dev] [717] do not hardcode mirrors API path, use variables from product.id

2011-03-21 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 21 March 2011 23:57,   wrote:
> Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/mirror.pm
> ===
> --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/mirror.pm2011-03-21 22:36:43 UTC (rev 
> 716)
> +++ drakx/trunk/perl-install/mirror.pm2011-03-21 22:57:27 UTC (rev 
> 717)
> @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@
>  #- contact the following URL to retrieve the list of mirrors.
>  #- http://wiki.mageia.org/en/Product_id

BTW this URL doesn't exist either


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release mga-mirrors-0.05-2.mga1

2011-03-21 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 21 March 2011 23:16, Mageia Team  wrote:
> Mageia Mirrors management

Please can we've a real description?
We mere mortals cant understand what this package is about...

> blino  0.05-2.mga1:
> + Revision: 75362
> - add patch from SVN to allow an older Catalyst version
> - add missing BR as workaround to be able to build on Mandriva 2010.1
>
>  + nanardon 
>    - buildrequire Config::General



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> R : Tu vois !
> > Q : Tu crois ?
> > > R : Ça casse l'ordre chronologique de l'échange.
> > > > Q : En quoi répondre au dessus est-il gênant ?


Re: [Mageia-dev] ANNOUNCE: kernel-2.6.38 on the way.

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Backlund

On 21.3.2011 08:43, Thierry Vignaud wrote:

On 21 March 2011 00:39, Thomas Backlund  wrote:

Now, if you want full performance from the free driver, make sure you
have radeon-rlc-firmware and kernel-firmware-extra installed.


When you know such things, please take care to patch meta-task's
rpmsrate in order to do so.

Sg like:
5 DRIVER"ATI Radeon HD 2000|r600" radeon-rlc-firmware kernel-firmware-extra



BTW, I now think it would be better to package all radeon firmwares from
kernel-firmware-extra in the same rpm, and remove the requirements for
kernel-firmware-extra for radeon users, wdyt ?


I agree


Now done.

radeon-rlc-firmware is now renamed to radeon-firmware witch proper 
obsoletes and conflicts in place


kernel-firmware-extra, x11-driver-video-ati and meta-task updated
to cope with the change

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Thomas


Re: [Mageia-dev] HALectomy on mageia ?

2011-03-21 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 March 2011 01:08, Olivier Blin  wrote:
> Ahmad Samir  writes:
>
>> On 17 March 2011 23:05, Olivier Blin  wrote:
>>> Remy CLOUARD  writes:
>>>
 FWIW, halevt can be dropped with hal. udisks is a drop-in replacement
 for it. On top of that, its use is kinda limited to people that don’t
 use a desktop environment that handle automounting itself (and those
 should consider using udisks instead)
>>>
>>> How is udisks supposed to replace halevt?
>>> Is it capable of automounting without an additionnal daemon?
>>>
>> AFAICS, only task-lxde and task-moblin suggested halevt...
>
> I'v using halevt with fluxbox
>
> --
> Olivier Blin - blino
>

urpmf didn't say so. So I can't haven known that it's useful for
fluxbox users. :)

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Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM group for web applications

2011-03-21 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 21 mars 2011 à 18:25 +0100, nicolas vigier a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> It seems we don't have an RPM group for web applications :
> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rpm_groups
> http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/rpmlint-mageia-policy/current/SOURCES/distribution.conf?view=markup
> 
> Should we create one ?

A complete rework would be a compelling option to my eyes, but not a
immediate one.

>  Or is there other groups we can use for this ?

Usually, what is used :
System/Servers
  wordpress, viewvc , gitweb, phpmyadmin, cacti
Networking/WWW
  dokuwiki, bugzilla, trac, centreon

or more specialized rpm use their dedicated category :
nagios, bacula, 

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Michael Scherer



[Mageia-dev] RPM group for web applications

2011-03-21 Thread nicolas vigier
Hello,

It seems we don't have an RPM group for web applications :
http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rpm_groups
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/rpmlint-mageia-policy/current/SOURCES/distribution.conf?view=markup

Should we create one ? Or is there other groups we can use for this ?



Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 21 mars 2011 à 15:02 +0100, Stefano Negro a écrit :
> 2011/3/21 Oliver Burger 
> 
> > Am Montag 21 März 2011, 14:47:34 schrieb Stefano Negro:
> > > I have seen version 1 in mageia and 2 in ubuntu.
> > Because Ubuntu has switched to grub2 and Mageia has not.
> >
> Ok, but why not give grub 2 only as option, if someone wants to install it.

Because no one did the work. 

This would requires first to do a package ( we do have a old one in
mandriva for starting, it may requires to clean the patches ), and then
prepare a script to create the proper bootloader ( as grub 2 is now
modular and we cannot and do not want to include all module, or the
bootloader may be too big ). 

This also requires to touch to various stuff like drakboot and so on.

That's not a trivial task.

A bug report already have been opened, if you want to follow the
progress : 

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416

> In my opinion the compatibility with ubuntu's grub it's important, to give
> the possibility to try easily what's this group it's doing with such big
> efforts.

Can you be more explicit about "lack of compatibility" ? AFAIK and at
least on my laptop, grub 2 is perfectly able to boot a distribution that
has no specific provision for it ( in my case, a fedora 14 ), provided
you configure it correctly. 

And usually, for people who want to have multiple distributions, the
best way is to setup a independent bootloader on the MBR, that in turn
chainload various distribution  bootloader. 

This way, you benefit from the integration of kernel and bootloader of
every distribution, and you do not change anything once the distribution
have been setup. 
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Michael Scherer



Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Stefano Negro
2011/3/21 Thorsten van Lil 
>
> The last time I installed Ubuntu (one year ago, i think) it detected my
> mandriva installation and set it up in the grub. Nevertheless it doesn't
> worked and I had to manipulate grub2 according to boot mandriva. But that
> was/is a known bug in (ubuntus) grub2.
>
> Regards,
> Thorsten
>
Ok, I will have a look at the bugs in ubuntu and try to understand it.


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Thanks
Stblack


Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Thorsten van Lil

Am 21.03.2011 14:47, schrieb Stefano Negro:

I am trying to install mageia on the same disk of ubuntu and I wonder
why they have a different version on grub.
I have seen version 1 in mageia and 2 in ubuntu.
If i's the only option to configure manually the grub of ubuntu to point
to the kernel of mageia, this it's very bad in my opinion.
Thanks

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Bye
Stblack



The last time I installed Ubuntu (one year ago, i think) it detected my 
mandriva installation and set it up in the grub. Nevertheless it doesn't 
worked and I had to manipulate grub2 according to boot mandriva. But 
that was/is a known bug in (ubuntus) grub2.


Regards,
Thorsten


Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/21 Oliver Burger :
>
>> If i's the only option to configure manually the grub of ubuntu to point to
>> the kernel of mageia, this it's very bad in my opinion.
> That is something you should complain about to the Ubuntu folks, it's their
> grub that doesn't see Mageia.
>
> (Although I have to admit, it's the same the other way arround).

That is correct but in this context you should also point out that
Ubuntu is the only major distribution who switched to grub2.
For Mageia as for the other major distributions the respective
developpers/coordinators have decided to stay with grub, at least for
the time being.

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wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Stefano Negro
2011/3/21 Oliver Burger 

> Am Montag 21 März 2011, 14:47:34 schrieb Stefano Negro:
> > I have seen version 1 in mageia and 2 in ubuntu.
> Because Ubuntu has switched to grub2 and Mageia has not.
>
Ok, but why not give grub 2 only as option, if someone wants to install it.
In my opinion the compatibility with ubuntu's grub it's important, to give
the possibility to try easily what's this group it's doing with such big
efforts.

>
>
> (Although I have to admit, it's the same the other way arround).
>
That's why I am writing here.


> Oliver
>

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Thanks
Stblack


Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Oliver Burger
Am Montag 21 März 2011, 14:47:34 schrieb Stefano Negro:
> I am trying to install mageia on the same disk of ubuntu and I wonder why
> they have a different version on grub.
> I have seen version 1 in mageia and 2 in ubuntu.
Because Ubuntu has switched to grub2 and Mageia has not.

> If i's the only option to configure manually the grub of ubuntu to point to
> the kernel of mageia, this it's very bad in my opinion.
That is something you should complain about to the Ubuntu folks, it's their 
grub that doesn't see Mageia.

(Although I have to admit, it's the same the other way arround).

Oliver


[Mageia-dev] Grub version

2011-03-21 Thread Stefano Negro
I am trying to install mageia on the same disk of ubuntu and I wonder why
they have a different version on grub.
I have seen version 1 in mageia and 2 in ubuntu.
If i's the only option to configure manually the grub of ubuntu to point to
the kernel of mageia, this it's very bad in my opinion.
Thanks

-- 
Bye
Stblack


Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha 2 fresh install dvd i586

2011-03-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/20 Samuel Verschelde :
> Le jeudi 17 mars 2011 00:23:16, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
>> 2011/3/17 JA Magallón :
>> > If this option is not clearly visible, you can easily wipe windows boot
>> > menu and many users will be disappointed.
>>
>> No, because Mageia grub recognises a Windows installation and adds it
>> to the boot menue.
>>
>> But I agree, although former Mandriva users are aware of this way of
>> the installer we should document it clearly, like:
>>
>> "The bootloader will be configured according to automatic detection of
>> available installations on your harddisk. If you want to chack and/or
>> change the configuration you can do so by hitting the "Configure"
>> button in the summary.
>> Note that the bootloader will not be written to the harddisk before
>> you leave the summary."
>
> In order to have this good idea not lost in the flood of messages, I think you
> should create an enhancement bug report (if not done already :))

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484

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wobo