Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-03 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 March 2011 19:37, nicolas vigier  wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:
>
>> On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud  wrote:
>> > On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret  wrote:
>> >> I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
>> >> follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
>> >> with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
>> >> conversation.
>> >
>> > Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
>> >
>>
>> Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
>> this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.
>
> Mail clients usually use "In-Reply-To:" or "References:" headers to
> thread mails. But it seems gmail is also using subjects for this.
>
> However according to this, text inside square brackets is ignored :
> http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread
>
> So if we add '[New]' instead of 'New:' in the subject, maybe this would fix
> the problem with gmail ?
>
>

Yeah, that works, dmorgan tested and it works, he's applied the changes.

Thanks a bunch :)

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Remco Rijnders

On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:52:18PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote:

At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
"New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).


I don't particulary mind either way.

Remmy


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Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Vinet Raphaël
Le mardi 1 mars 2011 19:52:18 Ahmad Samir, vous avez écrit :
> At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
> "New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
> emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
> added... etc).
> 
> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
> find this useful (or not).
Hello,

I use it but it is not an absolute necessity ;-)

-- 
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certains ont l'air brillant avant d'avoir l'air con.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:

> On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud  wrote:
> > On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret  wrote:
> >> I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
> >> follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
> >> with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
> >> conversation.
> >
> > Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
> >
> 
> Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
> this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.

Mail clients usually use "In-Reply-To:" or "References:" headers to
thread mails. But it seems gmail is also using subjects for this.

However according to this, text inside square brackets is ignored :
http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread

So if we add '[New]' instead of 'New:' in the subject, maybe this would fix
the problem with gmail ?



Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud  wrote:
> On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret  wrote:
>> I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
>> follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
>> with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
>> conversation.
>
> Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
>

Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.

(I don't use it extensively but I did test some email clients, mainly
to ease my job in the triage team in Mandriva, and now in Mageia, but
since I mostly use the bug report web page in bugzilla, using gmail
(web mail) in firefox is the best solution so far, even though the bug
mail threads get broken all the time).

Up till now, stormi and boklm (the latter wants to bring back adding
the "Resolved" to the subject of closed bugs :)), find this useful,
along with others who think it's "nice to have it". I can't ask for
the removal of this "feature" just to suit my usage.

(Now, if I'd asked dmorgan to just remove the "New:" keyword from new
bug reports email Subject when we started using bugzilla, without
asking, no one would have noticed; yeah, democracy is bad sometimes
:)).

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread andre999

Ahmad Samir a écrit :


On 1 March 2011 22:46, Frank Griffin  wrote:

Ahmad Samir wrote:

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).


I don't use it for filtering, but I don't find it objectionable either.



(Just so I am completely honest, I'd like it removed, hence my asking
how many people this feature is useful for).


Fine by me, even though I kind of like it.  It really doesn't add 
anything that you can't see by the threads.


For those who use the title for filtering, filtering by thread works 
better, as the title is often changed as the bug is refined.


--
André


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret  wrote:
> I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
> follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
> with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
> conversation.

Indeed. it's annoying for filtering


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Yann Ciret
Le 02/03/2011 00:51, nicolas vigier a écrit :
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:
> 
>> At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
>> "New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
>> emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
>> added... etc).
>>
>> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
>> find this useful (or not).
> 
> I like it. And I think it would be nice to have the status in the
> subject. And also the name of the author of the change in the from.
> 
> 
I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
conversation.



Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread nicolas vigier
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:

> At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
> "New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
> emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
> added... etc).
> 
> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
> find this useful (or not).

I like it. And I think it would be nice to have the status in the
subject. And also the name of the author of the change in the from.



Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread andre999

Ahmad Samir a écrit :


At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
"New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).


I noticed it, and I like it.  (I was a bit curious as to how it got 
there.)  (Not a big issue, though.)


--
André


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 1 March 2011 22:46, Frank Griffin  wrote:
> Ahmad Samir wrote:
>> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
>> find this useful (or not).
>>
> I don't use it for filtering, but I don't find it objectionable either.
>

(Just so I am completely honest, I'd like it removed, hence my asking
how many people this feature is useful for).

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 01 maart 2011 19:52:18 schreef Ahmad Samir:
> At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
> "New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
> emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
> added... etc).
> 
> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
> find this useful (or not).

didn't notice, but no objections


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Frank Griffin
Ahmad Samir wrote:
> This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
> find this useful (or not).
>   
I don't use it for filtering, but I don't find it objectionable either.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread James Kerr

On 01/03/11 18:52, Ahmad Samir wrote:

At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
"New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).



I hadn't noticed that :)

It's immediately apparent on reading the email, whether or not it's a 
new bug, but if that string is useful to some people, then I don't have 
any problem with it.


Jim


[Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Ahmad Samir
At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
"New:" to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).

-- 
Ahmad Samir