Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-12-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 01:44:45AM +0100, JA Magallón wrote:
> On 11/24/2012 09:49 PM, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> >Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 17:25:02, JA Magallón a écrit :
> >>If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
> >>see if totem works for me with them.
> >
> >Sorry for the delay. I have uploaded a kit (33 files 500MB) of videos on
> >http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/
> >
> >Some types of videos are given with the command file
> >$ ls | while read f;do file $f;done|awk -F: '{print $2 ":" $1}' | sort
> >Some formats 19/9 are displayed at 4/3 ratio.
> >
> >As I said previously VLC works fine in every case.
> >
> 
> Sorry for the delay...
> In my case, all play in totem except SWF files.
> The only problem I saw was some chopping with audio in a couple videos,
> the ballmer_dance one and the casseaur.mov.

Please file bugs upstream in case it doesn't play nicely. If it
complains about missing plugins, then file @ Mageia.

-- 
Regards,
Olav


Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-12-04 Thread JA Magallón

On 11/24/2012 09:49 PM, Pierre Jarillon wrote:

Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 17:25:02, JA Magallón a écrit :

If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
see if totem works for me with them.


Sorry for the delay. I have uploaded a kit (33 files 500MB) of videos on
http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/

Some types of videos are given with the command file
$ ls | while read f;do file $f;done|awk -F: '{print $2 ":" $1}' | sort
Some formats 19/9 are displayed at 4/3 ratio.

As I said previously VLC works fine in every case.



Sorry for the delay...
In my case, all play in totem except SWF files.
The only problem I saw was some chopping with audio in a couple videos,
the ballmer_dance one and the casseaur.mov.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-11-24 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 17:25:02, JA Magallón a écrit :
> If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
> see if totem works for me with them.

Sorry for the delay. I have uploaded a kit (33 files 500MB) of videos on
http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/

Some types of videos are given with the command file
$ ls | while read f;do file $f;done|awk -F: '{print $2 ":" $1}' | sort
Some formats 19/9 are displayed at 4/3 ratio.

As I said previously VLC works fine in every case.

-- 
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Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-11-24 Thread JA Magallón

On 11/24/2012 05:33 PM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:

On Saturday 24. November 2012 17.25, JA Magallón wrote:

And wrt to copyrighted decoders ...


Unless the decoder is in the Public Domain, it is copyrighted.
The Linux kernel is copyrighted. Even the GNU packages is copyrighted.

Don't confuse copyrighted with proprietary.



Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant...

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-11-24 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Saturday 24. November 2012 17.25, JA Magallón wrote:
> And wrt to copyrighted decoders ...

Unless the decoder is in the Public Domain, it is copyrighted.
The Linux kernel is copyrighted. Even the GNU packages is copyrighted.

Don't confuse copyrighted with proprietary.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-11-24 Thread JA Magallón

On 11/24/2012 01:28 AM, Pierre Jarillon wrote:

For Mageia 3 it is necessary to read all kinds of videos.
I have a set of video to test the distro.

Totem is out of service but its is however the defaut reader...
For some videos, Dragon is not shown in the list of players but works.
http://vimeo.com/53980967 from vimeo works with Mageia 1 but not in cauldron.
VLC works always.

My suggestions are:
- When VLC is loaded, it must become the default video viewer.
- For each video type, define the viewer (Totem, Dragon) which works.



Some points, specially related to Totem that is what I mainly use:

- Totem/GStreamer plays all kind of videos I have given it, mainly
  divx/mp4/h264/mpeg2 with mp3/ac3 audio in avi/mp4/mkv containers.
  It all depends on your gstreamer being correctly installed.

- Videos like http://vimeo.com/53980967 are just FLASH, they do not
  depend on Totem,VLC o Dragon. It works for me in Cauldron, as
  YouTube both in Flash or HTML5 formats.

- Most desktops DEs have a native player (Totem for Gnome, Dragon for
  KDE, Parole for XFCE, ...). That should work and be the default
  out of the box, that is what is most integrated with each DE.
  Suppose that Totem was the absolutely best player regarding
  fomats. What would you think KDE users would say if it was made
  the default for KDE, forcing them to install half Gnome to see
  videos ?

- Many desktops have some kind of 2nd-to-best player. Perhaps VLC
  is a good option for KDE (it is Qt based anyways), but for Gnome
  or XFCE (GTK based) the best next option IMHO is Gnome MPlayer
  (as good as as VLC).

So the only problem with Totem is probably urpmi requires/suggests
missing to guarantee that is plays all audio/video formats, or
at least most used. And I suppose you can have the same problems with
Phonon (or whatever is the KDE equivalent to GStreamer).
And wrt to copyrighted decoders, the problem is the same for all,
you have to use Tainted repos to get a GStreamer/VLC/MPlayer that
decodes them.

If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
see if totem works for me with them.

--
J.A. Magallon \   Winter is coming...


[Mageia-dev] Video players

2012-11-23 Thread Pierre Jarillon
For Mageia 3 it is necessary to read all kinds of videos.
I have a set of video to test the distro.

Totem is out of service but its is however the defaut reader...
For some videos, Dragon is not shown in the list of players but works.
http://vimeo.com/53980967 from vimeo works with Mageia 1 but not in cauldron.
VLC works always.

My suggestions are:
- When VLC is loaded, it must become the default video viewer.
- For each video type, define the viewer (Totem, Dragon) which works.

-- 
Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/
Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org
Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie