Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-11 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 10/04/13 21:56, Frank Griffin wrote:
 Wow.  I was assuming all along that the problem stemmed from a
 massive upgrade from some MGA2 system.  If you installed a 3rd
 April beta, had it working perfectly, and something uploaded to
 cauldron in the last week borked your system, I have no clue.  And
 the fact that you've done this repeatedly indicates that it's not
 just an unstable mirror or some such.
 
 I wouldn't bother with the bug report for the /root/drakx stuff,
 since the install itself worked fine and gave you a working system.
 It's whatever came after that in the update that did the deed.
 
 If you have access to wired internet, is it possible for you to
 redo the clean install as a network install from a cauldron mirror
 ?  It doesn't have to be a full install, as a minimal system
 (Custom and uncheck all the heavy stuff, just leave KDE as desktop)
 should give you an X environment to test.  It would be interesting
 to know if a clean install of current cauldron exhibits the same
 problems on your hardware.

I'm willing to try this, though I've no idea how to do it - it's
something I've never attempted before.  I think I have to download a
boot.iso - is that right?

What do you consider heavy stuff? I always disable desktop effects.
 What is installed by default that I could do without at this stage?

If you can give me brief instructions I'll try to do this today.

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 20:48, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/08/2013 02:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 No, it doesn't.  When I ran XFdrake the test did display
 colours, though at a resolution I wouldn't want to work with :-)
 However, on reboot I still have a backlit black screen.
 
 I'm sure you are on the right track.  It's not radeon, though,
 it's Intel 810 and later.  I see that listed in XFdrake, but if I
 try to use it I'm told that there are no screens.  Not sure what
 that means, though.
 
 When booting into rescue, I saw several items listed as Intel 
 Corporation:NM10/ICH7 Family which sounds right to me.
 
 So - I need Intel drivers (and firmware).  Can I use the same
 rescue processes to get the Internet working so that I can
 download them?
 
 Odd, though, that even VESA didn't work.
 
 
 Let me get this straight.  You ran XFdrake for VESA chrooted to
 your root partition, got a decent test, and the real boot *still*
 screws up ?  Weird.
 
 If you follow the process I gave, you should be able to start the 
 network from within the chroot (provided you were able to start it
 from the rescue boot), or else it should already be up.  You should
 then be able to run urpmi from within the chroot to install the
 firmware packages from nonfree.
 
 You'll need at least kernel-firmware-nonfree.  Here's what else is
 there:
 
 [root@ftgme2 ftg]# cd /mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release 
 [root@ftgme2 release]# ls *firm* 
 atmel-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 bluez-firmware-1.2-9.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ipw2100-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ipw2200-firmware-3.1-3.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ivtv-firmware-20080701-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 kernel-firmware-nonfree-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 radeon-firmware-20120322-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ralink-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 rtlwifi-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 speedtouch-firmware-0.1-10.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
 
 If that doesn't work, then it sounds like your TTY configuration
 is screwed, and if that's the case, I'm tapped out.  Colin would
 probably be the best one to ask what controls getty under systemd
 and how it's configured.

I went through the following steps again:
1) Boot the rescue system
2) drvinst
3) mount your root as /mnt
4) do a mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
5) do a chroot /mnt
6) do a mount -t proc none /proc
7) do a mount -t sysfs none /sys
8) do XFdrake
9) choose the x11 VESA or VGA driver (way down at bottom of list)

except that this time I chose the Other:VESA (generic) driver.  On
closing XFdrake I got

ioctl EVIOCGBIT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Is this to be expected?  Anyway, on reboot it was exactly the same as
before.

Starting afresh, I followed the steps up to running XFdrake (but not
running XFdrake yet).  I tried 'ifup eth0' but 'Running in chroot.
Ignoring request'.  After exit this changed to Running in chroot.
ignoring request. ./network-functions: line 260: cd:
/var/run/netreport: No such file or directory.

Incidentally, how do you reboot or shutdown when in chroot - and/or
how do you reverse the chroot?

So - I'm back in console, without running any of the steps yet.  Can
you give me the command to add the non-free source and tell me how to
get eth0 working?

Anne




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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/10/2013 05:06 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

I went through the following steps again:
1) Boot the rescue system
2) drvinst
3) mount your root as /mnt
4) do a mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
5) do a chroot /mnt
6) do a mount -t proc none /proc
7) do a mount -t sysfs none /sys
8) do XFdrake
9) choose the x11 VESA or VGA driver (way down at bottom of list)

except that this time I chose the Other:VESA (generic) driver.  On
closing XFdrake I got

ioctl EVIOCGBIT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Is this to be expected?  Anyway, on reboot it was exactly the same as
before.


No idea, sorry.



Starting afresh, I followed the steps up to running XFdrake (but not
running XFdrake yet).  I tried 'ifup eth0' but 'Running in chroot.
Ignoring request'.  After exit this changed to Running in chroot.
ignoring request. ./network-functions: line 260: cd:
/var/run/netreport: No such file or directory.


I guess just bring up eth0 before entering the chroot



Incidentally, how do you reboot or shutdown when in chroot - and/or
how do you reverse the chroot?


chroot starts a shell.  When you exit from that shell, you're out of the 
chroot.  An ls /mnt should indicate where you are: if you see all of 
your root partition's root directories, you're out of it. Inside it, 
/mnt will contain whatever it contains on your root partition (if it 
even exists).




So - I'm back in console, without running any of the steps yet.  Can
you give me the command to add the non-free source and tell me how to
get eth0 working?


It's urpmi.addmedia', but the exact syntax depends on where your mirror 
is.  Check the man page.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 10/04/13 12:00 did gyre and gimble:

 Starting afresh, I followed the steps up to running XFdrake (but not
 running XFdrake yet).  I tried 'ifup eth0' but 'Running in chroot.
 Ignoring request'.  After exit this changed to Running in chroot.
 ignoring request. ./network-functions: line 260: cd:
 /var/run/netreport: No such file or directory.
 
 I guess just bring up eth0 before entering the chroot

After entering the chroot, you can also do:

mount -t tmpfs none /run
systemd-tmpfiles --create
rm -f /run/nologin

That should initialise all the temporary files you might need for a
running system.

Col


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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 10/04/13 12:00, Frank Griffin wrote:
 
 Starting afresh, I followed the steps up to running XFdrake (but
 not running XFdrake yet).  I tried 'ifup eth0' but 'Running in
 chroot. Ignoring request'.  After exit this changed to Running
 in chroot. ignoring request. ./network-functions: line 260: cd: 
 /var/run/netreport: No such file or directory.
 
 I guess just bring up eth0 before entering the chroot
 
ifup: configuration for eth0 not found - I had already tried that.
 
 Incidentally, how do you reboot or shutdown when in chroot -
 and/or how do you reverse the chroot?
 
 chroot starts a shell.  When you exit from that shell, you're out
 of the chroot.  An ls /mnt should indicate where you are: if you
 see all of your root partition's root directories, you're out of
 it. Inside it, /mnt will contain whatever it contains on your root
 partition (if it even exists).
 
That's what I thought, but still after exit I get the Running in
chroot messages :-(
 
 So - I'm back in console, without running any of the steps yet.
 Can you give me the command to add the non-free source and tell
 me how to get eth0 working?
 
 It's urpmi.addmedia', but the exact syntax depends on where your
 mirror is.  Check the man page.

As usual, lots of detail if you already understand it, but it seems to
rely on you knowing URLs.  I thought I could simply copy the URL from
this system, adapting the version if it looked necessary, but if I
look at Edit on the add-media page of MCC it just says $MIRRORLIST -
and echo $MIRRORLIST doesn't tell me anything at all.

There's obviously a real problem with the Intel drivers being removed
by accident during the update.  For everyone's sake, I'd like to try
to identify the problem, but I feel as though I'm banging my head
against a brick wall.

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/10/2013 07:31 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:


ifup: configuration for eth0 not found - I had already tried that.


Interesting.  I guess you didn't configure eth0 from the Install 
Summary.  You can do it from the chroot (using Colin's suggestion) by 
running drakconnect.



That's what I thought, but still after exit I get the Running in
chroot messages :-(


It's odd that a rescue system brought up through a network connection 
doesn't have it at runtime.  Maybe try Colin's suggestion from the 
rescue system ?





As usual, lots of detail if you already understand it, but it seems to
rely on you knowing URLs.  I thought I could simply copy the URL from
this system, adapting the version if it looked necessary, but if I
look at Edit on the add-media page of MCC it just says $MIRRORLIST -
and echo $MIRRORLIST doesn't tell me anything at all.


The syntax won't be identical, but you can get an idea of the URL to use 
by looking in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg on your root partition to see what's 
being used for core release.



There's obviously a real problem with the Intel drivers being removed
by accident during the update.  For everyone's sake, I'd like to try
to identify the problem, but I feel as though I'm banging my head
against a brick wall.


There are really two issues here.  One is getting your system to work 
again.  The other is finding out what went wrong to begin with.  For the 
latter, you should probably open a bug describing exactly what you did 
in the initial upgrade, and attaching the files from /root/drakx.  I've 
never done a distro upgrade myself, as I install multiple fairly 
identical systems, and I keep a set of post-install scripts to bring a 
newly-installed system to the same state as a previous one.  So I know 
virtually nil about the internals of how an upgrade actually works.


If all else fails (and after you attach the files to the new bug), you 
could try re-running the upgrade.  If you can get to package selection, 
Individual Package Selection may get you what you need, and Summary 
will allow you to configure video and network.  But this will overlay 
the /root/drakx files.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 10/04/13 13:07, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/10/2013 07:31 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

I think there may be some misunderstandings, so I'll try to correct them
inline.

 Interesting.  I guess you didn't configure eth0 from the Install 
 Summary.

I configured it to use dhcp, since netbooks are used in other places (I
use the hotel cabled network when in Madeira).

 You can do it from the chroot (using Colin's suggestion) by running
 drakconnect.
 
Drakconnect ran,  I saw the waiting for network to be up followed by
OK.  If I now offer ifup eth0 I get

Running in a chroot. ignoring request
bind: Cannot assign requested address
RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable
ERROR:  [etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth] Error adding default
gateway 192.168.0.1 for eth0
NETLINK: Error: File exists
and sbin/ifup: configuration for eth.  Ping tells me that the network
is unreachable.
Running in a chroot. ignoring request

 That's what I thought, but still after exit I get the Running 
 in chroot messages :-(
 
 It's odd that a rescue system brought up through a network 
 connection doesn't have it at runtime.

I'm running the rescue system from the DVD, not through a network.

 Maybe try Colin's suggestion from the rescue system
 
I did, this time.

 
 As usual, lots of detail if you already understand it, but it
 seems to rely on you knowing URLs.  I thought I could simply copy
 the URL from this system, adapting the version if it looked
 necessary, but if I look at Edit on the add-media page of MCC it
 just says $MIRRORLIST - and echo $MIRRORLIST doesn't tell me
 anything at all.
 
 The syntax won't be identical, but you can get an idea of the URL
 to use by looking in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg on your root partition to
 see what's being used for core release.
 
OK, if I can get the network up I'll see what I can do along those lines.

 There's obviously a real problem with the Intel drivers being 
 removed by accident during the update.  For everyone's sake, I'd 
 like to try to identify the problem, but I feel as though I'm 
 banging my head against a brick wall.
 
 There are really two issues here.  One is getting your system to 
 work again.  The other is finding out what went wrong to begin
 with.

I was hoping that we would be able to find some trace of what went
wrong as we are working with this,l but by now maybe any relevant logs
will be destroyed.

 For the latter, you should probably open a bug describing exactly 
 what you did in the initial upgrade, and attaching the files from 
 /root/drakx.

I had intended to, but hoped to have more information before I do
that.  I have copied /root/drakx to /root/drakx-sav - hopefully this
will preserve all we need.

 I've never done a distro upgrade myself,

Out of curiosity I tried the distro upgrade.  It appeared to complete,
but booted to a blank screen, so I didn't waste any more time on it.
I started afresh and did a clean install (though keeping /home).

Something occurred to me today that may or may not be relevant.  This
problem with the Intel drivers being removed may not be a very new
problem.  I was running Cauldron successfully on this netbook for a
long time, up to early January.  Then I went away for three weeks.
When I returned near the end of January I switched on and did a big
update.  After that I had a black screen, much like the current one.

I thought it might be because something important had happened while I
was away so that I had not made a necessary change at the right time,
so I waited for the opportunity to do this install.  It may be, then,
that this was my first experience of this same bug.

 If all else fails (and after you attach the files to the new bug), 
 you could try re-running the upgrade.  If you can get to package 
 selection, Individual Package Selection may get you what you
 need, and Summary will allow you to configure video and network.
 But this will overlay the /root/drakx files.

As I said earlier, it was a clean install, not an upgrade, and it
completed perfectly.  I then rebooted as usual, and immediately used
MCC to add all other media sources, and did the big update.  This is
when it went pear-shaped.

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/10/2013 02:21 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Out of curiosity I tried the distro upgrade.  It appeared to complete,
but booted to a blank screen, so I didn't waste any more time on it.
I started afresh and did a clean install (though keeping /home).

Something occurred to me today that may or may not be relevant.  This
problem with the Intel drivers being removed may not be a very new
problem.  I was running Cauldron successfully on this netbook for a
long time, up to early January.  Then I went away for three weeks.
When I returned near the end of January I switched on and did a big
update.  After that I had a black screen, much like the current one.

I thought it might be because something important had happened while I
was away so that I had not made a necessary change at the right time,
so I waited for the opportunity to do this install.  It may be, then,
that this was my first experience of this same bug.

...

As I said earlier, it was a clean install, not an upgrade, and it
completed perfectly.  I then rebooted as usual, and immediately used
MCC to add all other media sources, and did the big update.  This is
when it went pear-shaped.

OK, so what did you do the clean install from ?  From this last bit, it 
sounds like it was working after the install if you could boot and use 
MCC to add other media.  I'm curious as to the timeframe window of what 
you installed and what you updated to.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 10/04/13 19:50, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/10/2013 02:21 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Out of curiosity I tried the distro upgrade.  It appeared to
 complete, but booted to a blank screen, so I didn't waste any
 more time on it. I started afresh and did a clean install (though
 keeping /home).
 
 Something occurred to me today that may or may not be relevant.
 This problem with the Intel drivers being removed may not be a
 very new problem.  I was running Cauldron successfully on this
 netbook for a long time, up to early January.  Then I went away
 for three weeks. When I returned near the end of January I
 switched on and did a big update.  After that I had a black
 screen, much like the current one.
 
 I thought it might be because something important had happened
 while I was away so that I had not made a necessary change at the
 right time, so I waited for the opportunity to do this install.
 It may be, then, that this was my first experience of this same
 bug.
 ...
 As I said earlier, it was a clean install, not an upgrade, and
 it completed perfectly.  I then rebooted as usual, and
 immediately used MCC to add all other media sources, and did the
 big update.  This is when it went pear-shaped.
 
 OK, so what did you do the clean install from ?  From this last
 bit, it sounds like it was working after the install if you could
 boot and use MCC to add other media.  I'm curious as to the
 timeframe window of what you installed and what you updated to.

I downloaded the latest beta - and checked the sha1sum before
installing.  It worked perfectly.  I configured eth0 as dhcp, knowing
that I'd have to get the wifi drivers later.  I did the update
immediately after the install - that would be the 3rd April, when I
started this thread.

I've now got those files from /root/drakx onto a usb stick - should I
start the bug report now with those files?

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-10 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/10/2013 03:32 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

I downloaded the latest beta - and checked the sha1sum before
installing.  It worked perfectly.  I configured eth0 as dhcp, knowing
that I'd have to get the wifi drivers later.  I did the update
immediately after the install - that would be the 3rd April, when I
started this thread.

I've now got those files from /root/drakx onto a usb stick - should I
start the bug report now with those files?


Wow.  I was assuming all along that the problem stemmed from a massive 
upgrade from some MGA2 system.  If you installed a 3rd April beta, had 
it working perfectly, and something uploaded to cauldron in the last 
week borked your system, I have no clue.  And the fact that you've done 
this repeatedly indicates that it's not just an unstable mirror or some 
such.


I wouldn't bother with the bug report for the /root/drakx stuff, since 
the install itself worked fine and gave you a working system. It's 
whatever came after that in the update that did the deed.


If you have access to wired internet, is it possible for you to redo the 
clean install as a network install from a cauldron mirror ?  It doesn't 
have to be a full install, as a minimal system (Custom and uncheck all 
the heavy stuff, just leave KDE as desktop) should give you an X 
environment to test.  It would be interesting to know if a clean install 
of current cauldron exhibits the same problems on your hardware.




Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 22:49, Colin Guthrie wrote:
 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 22:43 did gyre and
 gimble:
 Colin Guthrie skrev 9.4.2013 00:31:
 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 13:20 did gyre
 and gimble:
 
 
 It's actually easier than that.
 
 Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command
 line and ith will boot to runlevel 3
 
 Or simply add a 3 onto the command line as has been the case
 for many years :)
 
 Of course I should probably discourage that seeing as 3 is
 pretty meaningless in absolute terms these days! :)
 
 
 Are you sure ?
 
 IIRC there has been reports of people doing it and still eneded
 up at graphical.target ...
 
 Hmm, well the code suggests it should... will have to try it :)
 
That was the first thing I tried - with and without removing quiet and
splash.  It's the way I've always done it in the past, but it didn't
work this time.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 09/04/13 00:55, David W. Hodgins wrote:
 On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 12:52:06 -0400, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org
 wrote:
 
 Rebooting, nothing has changed.  I get grub, lots of disk
 activity led flickering, but no output to the screen, with or
 without Esc.  I can boot into Safe moade, which lands me in
 Rescue Mode - but I haven't a clue what to do next.
 
 Try editing the kernel parameters in grub.
 
 Remove splash quiet, if present.
 
 Add  3 xdriver=vesa.
 
 The 3 gets translated by systemd to
 systemd.unit=multi-user.target, is shorter to type, and easier to
 remember.
 
That did get a different result.  At least this time I can see
messages.  There are lots that start with '?' including a panic,
sys_exit and sysenter_do_call followed by ---[ end trace
09827c16e6de5433 ]

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 20:48, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/08/2013 02:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 No, it doesn't.  When I ran XFdrake the test did display
 colours, though at a resolution I wouldn't want to work with :-)
 However, on reboot I still have a backlit black screen.
 
 I'm sure you are on the right track.  It's not radeon, though,
 it's Intel 810 and later.  I see that listed in XFdrake, but if I
 try to use it I'm told that there are no screens.  Not sure what
 that means, though.
 
 When booting into rescue, I saw several items listed as Intel 
 Corporation:NM10/ICH7 Family which sounds right to me.
 
 So - I need Intel drivers (and firmware).  Can I use the same
 rescue processes to get the Internet working so that I can
 download them?
 
 Odd, though, that even VESA didn't work.
 
 
 Let me get this straight.  You ran XFdrake for VESA chrooted to
 your root partition, got a decent test, and the real boot *still*
 screws up ?  Weird.
 
Yes, exactly that.

 If you follow the process I gave, you should be able to start the 
 network from within the chroot (provided you were able to start it
 from the rescue boot), or else it should already be up.  You should
 then be able to run urpmi from within the chroot to install the
 firmware packages from nonfree.
 
 You'll need at least kernel-firmware-nonfree.  Here's what else is
 there:
 
 [root@ftgme2 ftg]# cd /mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release 
 [root@ftgme2 release]# ls *firm* 
 atmel-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 bluez-firmware-1.2-9.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ipw2100-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ipw2200-firmware-3.1-3.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ivtv-firmware-20080701-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 kernel-firmware-nonfree-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 radeon-firmware-20120322-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 ralink-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 rtlwifi-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm 
 speedtouch-firmware-0.1-10.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
 
 If that doesn't work, then it sounds like your TTY configuration
 is screwed, and if that's the case, I'm tapped out.  Colin would
 probably be the best one to ask what controls getty under systemd
 and how it's configured.

I'll try to get these, though in the light of what I saw a few minutes
ago (see reply to David) I'm not sure that this is going to work.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/07/2013 11:25 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Sorry to be a pain, Frank, but I've never been able to understand the
Rescue mode.  Everything I've tried fails.  How exactly do you mount
your root partition?  I went to Console, but every command I tried
failed.  I then tried the mount under /mnt and messed up the link.
For some reason, even after all this time, I never know exactly what
it intends me to do.


OK, you have two choices.

if you have a local cauldron mirror or can do network installs, you can 
boot isolinux or boot.iso and type rescue at the initial text screen 
prompt.  From there on, you pick a mirror as you would for a network 
install, and the only difference is that it will load the rescue kernel 
and run the rescue application rather than the standard install.


Or, you can boot the classic install ISO, and one of the GUI choices 
should be Rescue.


Once you get the Rescue panel, select Go to Console.  Then type 
drvinst, since rescue tends to lag modern hardware, and probably won't 
see SATA disks without the additional drivers.


Then mount your root partition.  Rescue provides a /mnt node, so you can use
  mount -t ext4 /dev/sdaX /mnt
You can then make the symlink modifications in /mnt/etc/systemd/system 
and reboot from the root partition.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Backlund

Frank Griffin skrev 4.4.2013 19:12:

On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line to get
a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit) screen.  Failsafe
appears to be doing better - at least I can see messages.  It reaches

Reached target Multi-User
Reached target Graphical Interface

and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is failing,
and what I need to do to rescue the system?


Boot a rescue disk and mount your root partition.  In
/etc/systemd/system you should see a symlink like:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Mar 29 11:00 default.target -
/lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target

Just remove this and re-symlink to /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target
and you should get a level 3 boot.



It's actually easier than that.

Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line and 
ith will boot to runlevel 3


--
Thomas



Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 13:12, Frank Griffin wrote:
 Or, you can boot the classic install ISO, and one of the GUI
 choices should be Rescue.
 
 Once you get the Rescue panel, select Go to Console.  Then type 
 drvinst, since rescue tends to lag modern hardware, and probably
 won't see SATA disks without the additional drivers.
 
 Then mount your root partition.  Rescue provides a /mnt node, so
 you can use mount -t ext4 /dev/sdaX /mnt You can then make the
 symlink modifications in /mnt/etc/systemd/system and reboot from
 the root partition.

modprobe: FATAL: Module shpchp not found
modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found

How do I get these?

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 13:20, Thomas Backlund wrote:
 Frank Griffin skrev 4.4.2013 19:12:
 On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line
 to get a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit)
 screen.  Failsafe appears to be doing better - at least I can
 see messages.  It reaches
 
 Reached target Multi-User Reached target Graphical Interface
 
 and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is
 failing, and what I need to do to rescue the system?
 
 Boot a rescue disk and mount your root partition.  In 
 /etc/systemd/system you should see a symlink like:
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Mar 29 11:00 default.target - 
 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target
 
 Just remove this and re-symlink to
 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target and you should get a level 3
 boot.
 
 
 It's actually easier than that.
 
 Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line
 and ith will boot to runlevel 3
 
Noted, for when I get the drivers fixed :-)  Thanks

Anne

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/08/2013 11:03 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

modprobe: FATAL: Module shpchp not found
modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found

How do I get these?

I'm not sure why a rescue system would need either of them.  I guesss 
you get these messages from drvinst; I get some sililar ones myself 
(in my case, snd_intel8x0 and vboxguest), but it doesn't impact the 
usability of the rescue system.  I don't know how drvinst decides what 
it will try to load versus what is actually available in the rescue 
module set.


I would just ignore these and push on.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 16:37, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/08/2013 11:03 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 modprobe: FATAL: Module shpchp not found modprobe: FATAL: Module
 snd_hda_intel not found
 
 How do I get these?
 
 I'm not sure why a rescue system would need either of them.  I
 guesss you get these messages from drvinst; I get some sililar
 ones myself (in my case, snd_intel8x0 and vboxguest), but it
 doesn't impact the usability of the rescue system.  I don't know
 how drvinst decides what it will try to load versus what is
 actually available in the rescue module set.
 
 I would just ignore these and push on.

OK, moving on.  Listing /mnt/etc/systemd/system/ I have no
default.target link, so I assume I have to make one.  Is that

ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target
/mnt/etc/systemd/system/default.target
?

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/08/2013 12:13 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

OK, moving on.  Listing /mnt/etc/systemd/system/ I have no
default.target link, so I assume I have to make one.  Is that

ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target
/mnt/etc/systemd/system/default.target
?


Actually, you probably want to first chroot /mnt and then use

ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target 
/etc/systemd/system/default.target


as I can't swear offhand what the effect of linking in the rescue system 
with the leading /mnt would be.


Or, you can equally well edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst and use Thomas' 
suggestion.


But it's odd that you don't have a default link already.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 17:22, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/08/2013 12:13 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 OK, moving on.  Listing /mnt/etc/systemd/system/ I have no 
 default.target link, so I assume I have to make one.  Is that
 
 ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target 
 /mnt/etc/systemd/system/default.target ?
 
 Actually, you probably want to first chroot /mnt and then use
 
 ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target 
 /etc/systemd/system/default.target
 
 as I can't swear offhand what the effect of linking in the rescue
 system with the leading /mnt would be.
 
 Or, you can equally well edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst and use
 Thomas' suggestion.
 
 But it's odd that you don't have a default link already.

Something very odd is happening, indeed.  Remember this was a
functioning system before I did the updates.

Rebooting, nothing has changed.  I get grub, lots of disk activity led
flickering, but no output to the screen, with or without Esc.  I can
boot into Safe moade, which lands me in Rescue Mode - but I haven't a
clue what to do next.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/08/2013 12:52 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Something very odd is happening, indeed.  Remember this was a
functioning system before I did the updates.

Rebooting, nothing has changed.  I get grub, lots of disk activity led
flickering, but no output to the screen, with or without Esc.  I can
boot into Safe moade, which lands me in Rescue Mode - but I haven't a
clue what to do next.


If you don't even get text mode, this sounds like the old problem of 
radeon drivers which require nonfree firmware not having the firmware 
available.  There was a long stretch where, if you had such a card, you 
needed to install with the x11 vesa driver, boot, install the firmware, 
and then use XFdrake to switch to the radeon driver.


Do you have a card that uses the radeon driver ?  If so, did you enable 
nonfree during the upgrade ?


You can try the following:

1) Boot the rescue system
2) drvinst
3) mount your root as /mnt
4) do a mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
5) do a chroot /mnt
6) do a mount -t proc none /proc
7) do a mount -t sysfs none /sys
8) do XFdrake
9) choose the x11 VESA or VGA driver (way down at bottom of list)
10) reboot and see if TTY mode now works

If it does, then add nonfree as a urpmi repository and install the 
nonfree radeon firmware package.  Then run XFdrake in the real system to 
set yourself back to the radeon driver that XFdrake should default to.


If you're not using radeon, you may want to do (1) - (10) anyway just to 
see if your system works with the basic driver.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 08/04/13 18:28, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/08/2013 12:52 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Something very odd is happening, indeed.  Remember this was a 
 functioning system before I did the updates.
 
 Rebooting, nothing has changed.  I get grub, lots of disk
 activity led flickering, but no output to the screen, with or
 without Esc.  I can boot into Safe moade, which lands me in
 Rescue Mode - but I haven't a clue what to do next.
 
 
 If you don't even get text mode, this sounds like the old problem
 of radeon drivers which require nonfree firmware not having the
 firmware available.  There was a long stretch where, if you had
 such a card, you needed to install with the x11 vesa driver, boot,
 install the firmware, and then use XFdrake to switch to the radeon
 driver.
 
 Do you have a card that uses the radeon driver ?  If so, did you
 enable nonfree during the upgrade ?
 
 You can try the following:
 
 1) Boot the rescue system 2) drvinst 3) mount your root as /mnt 4)
 do a mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev 5) do a chroot /mnt 6) do a
 mount -t proc none /proc 7) do a mount -t sysfs none /sys 8) do
 XFdrake 9) choose the x11 VESA or VGA driver (way down at bottom
 of list) 10) reboot and see if TTY mode now works
 
 If it does, then add nonfree as a urpmi repository and install the 
 nonfree radeon firmware package.  Then run XFdrake in the real
 system to set yourself back to the radeon driver that XFdrake
 should default to.
 
 If you're not using radeon, you may want to do (1) - (10) anyway
 just to see if your system works with the basic driver.

No, it doesn't.  When I ran XFdrake the test did display colours,
though at a resolution I wouldn't want to work with :-)  However, on
reboot I still have a backlit black screen.

I'm sure you are on the right track.  It's not radeon, though, it's
Intel 810 and later.  I see that listed in XFdrake, but if I try to
use it I'm told that there are no screens.  Not sure what that means,
though.

When booting into rescue, I saw several items listed as Intel
Corporation:NM10/ICH7 Family which sounds right to me.

So - I need Intel drivers (and firmware).  Can I use the same rescue
processes to get the Internet working so that I can download them?

Odd, though, that even VESA didn't work.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/08/2013 02:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:

No, it doesn't.  When I ran XFdrake the test did display colours,
though at a resolution I wouldn't want to work with :-)  However, on
reboot I still have a backlit black screen.

I'm sure you are on the right track.  It's not radeon, though, it's
Intel 810 and later.  I see that listed in XFdrake, but if I try to
use it I'm told that there are no screens.  Not sure what that means,
though.

When booting into rescue, I saw several items listed as Intel
Corporation:NM10/ICH7 Family which sounds right to me.

So - I need Intel drivers (and firmware).  Can I use the same rescue
processes to get the Internet working so that I can download them?

Odd, though, that even VESA didn't work.


Let me get this straight.  You ran XFdrake for VESA chrooted to your 
root partition, got a decent test, and the real boot *still* screws up 
?  Weird.


If you follow the process I gave, you should be able to start the 
network from within the chroot (provided you were able to start it from 
the rescue boot), or else it should already be up.  You should then be 
able to run urpmi from within the chroot to install the firmware 
packages from nonfree.


You'll need at least kernel-firmware-nonfree.  Here's what else is there:

[root@ftgme2 ftg]# cd /mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release
[root@ftgme2 release]# ls *firm*
atmel-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
bluez-firmware-1.2-9.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
ipw2100-firmware-1.3-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
ipw2200-firmware-3.1-3.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
ivtv-firmware-20080701-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
kernel-firmware-nonfree-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
radeon-firmware-20120322-5.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
ralink-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
rtlwifi-firmware-20130307-1.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm
speedtouch-firmware-0.1-10.mga3.nonfree.noarch.rpm

If that doesn't work, then it sounds like your TTY configuration is 
screwed, and if that's the case, I'm tapped out.  Colin would probably 
be the best one to ask what controls getty under systemd and how it's 
configured.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 13:20 did gyre and gimble:
 Frank Griffin skrev 4.4.2013 19:12:
 On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line to get
 a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit) screen.  Failsafe
 appears to be doing better - at least I can see messages.  It reaches

 Reached target Multi-User
 Reached target Graphical Interface

 and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is failing,
 and what I need to do to rescue the system?

 Boot a rescue disk and mount your root partition.  In
 /etc/systemd/system you should see a symlink like:

 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Mar 29 11:00 default.target -
 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target

 Just remove this and re-symlink to /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target
 and you should get a level 3 boot.
 
 
 It's actually easier than that.
 
 Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line and
 ith will boot to runlevel 3

Or simply add a 3 onto the command line as has been the case for many
years :)

Of course I should probably discourage that seeing as 3 is pretty
meaningless in absolute terms these days! :)

Col


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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Backlund

Colin Guthrie skrev 9.4.2013 00:31:

'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 13:20 did gyre and gimble:




It's actually easier than that.

Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line and
ith will boot to runlevel 3


Or simply add a 3 onto the command line as has been the case for many
years :)

Of course I should probably discourage that seeing as 3 is pretty
meaningless in absolute terms these days! :)



Are you sure ?

IIRC there has been reports of people doing it and still eneded up at 
graphical.target ...


--
Thomas




Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 22:43 did gyre and gimble:
 Colin Guthrie skrev 9.4.2013 00:31:
 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 13:20 did gyre and gimble:
 

 It's actually easier than that.

 Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line and
 ith will boot to runlevel 3

 Or simply add a 3 onto the command line as has been the case for many
 years :)

 Of course I should probably discourage that seeing as 3 is pretty
 meaningless in absolute terms these days! :)

 
 Are you sure ?
 
 IIRC there has been reports of people doing it and still eneded up at
 graphical.target ...

Hmm, well the code suggests it should... will have to try it :)

Col


-- 

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colin(at)mageia.org
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Day Job:
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Open Source:
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  Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread David W. Hodgins

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 12:52:06 -0400, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote:


Rebooting, nothing has changed.  I get grub, lots of disk activity led
flickering, but no output to the screen, with or without Esc.  I can
boot into Safe moade, which lands me in Rescue Mode - but I haven't a
clue what to do next.


Try editing the kernel parameters in grub.

Remove splash quiet, if present.

Add  3 xdriver=vesa.

The 3 gets translated by systemd to systemd.unit=multi-user.target,
is shorter to type, and easier to remember.

Regards, Dave Hodgins


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-08 Thread David W. Hodgins

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 17:43:38 -0400, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:


Colin Guthrie skrev 9.4.2013 00:31:

'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 08/04/13 13:20 did gyre and gimble:

It's actually easier than that.
Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target on kernel / grub command line and
ith will boot to runlevel 3



Or simply add a 3 onto the command line as has been the case for many
years :)
Of course I should probably discourage that seeing as 3 is pretty
meaningless in absolute terms these days! :)



Are you sure ?
IIRC there has been reports of people doing it and still eneded up at
graphical.target ...


I tested with an install from Mageia 3 beta 4, and can confirm it still
works.

Regards, Dave Hodgins


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-07 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 04/04/13 17:12, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line to
 get a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit) screen.
 Failsafe appears to be doing better - at least I can see
 messages.  It reaches
 
 Reached target Multi-User Reached target Graphical Interface
 
 and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is
 failing, and what I need to do to rescue the system?
 
 Boot a rescue disk and mount your root partition.  In 
 /etc/systemd/system you should see a symlink like:
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Mar 29 11:00 default.target - 
 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target
 
 Just remove this and re-symlink to
 /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target and you should get a level 3
 boot.

I finally screwed things up altogether, to the point where it was
easier to start afresh.  Half way through the install it says

An error occurred:
ERROR: 'script' failed for
dkms-broadcom-wl-5.100.82.112-10.mga3.nonfree.i586

Hitting OK results in the installation appearing to complete (exactly
as it happened last time).  Last time I updated during the install -
this time I didn't.  For both occasions, the next step is to go to MCC
and install additional sources, then update.  On this second occasion
I was careful to omit all Testing sources - I had included them the
first time.  The update appeared to complete satisfactorily, with the
expected warning to Reboot.  However, the package listing window had
remained on screen throughout the process, and briefly showed again
the list of packages for updating - after a couple of seconds the
package list window showed empty, with Quit available.

On rebooting there was a good deal of disk activity light flickering,
but a completely black screen.

What is the most useful thing, to you, the developers?  If you want me
to troubleshoot you will need to give me fairly precise instructions.
 Similarly, if you want me to file a bug report, please indicate which
version and package it should be against.

If you don't see any value in this, I'll simply re-install M2.

Anne




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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-07 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/07/2013 09:25 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On rebooting there was a good deal of disk activity light flickering, 
but a completely black screen.
Follow the instructions to boot into level 3, and then try XFdrake from 
a root console to see how your video is configured.  If everything else 
seems normal, that's the culprit.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-07 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 07/04/13 14:48, Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 04/07/2013 09:25 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On rebooting there was a good deal of disk activity light
 flickering, but a completely black screen.
 Follow the instructions to boot into level 3, and then try XFdrake
 from a root console to see how your video is configured.  If
 everything else seems normal, that's the culprit.

Sorry to be a pain, Frank, but I've never been able to understand the
Rescue mode.  Everything I've tried fails.  How exactly do you mount
your root partition?  I went to Console, but every command I tried
failed.  I then tried the mount under /mnt and messed up the link.
For some reason, even after all this time, I never know exactly what
it intends me to do.

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-04 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 03/04/13 17:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
 This is an Acer Aspire One 533, with Intel N550 chipset, everything
  on-board.  I wasn't doing anything unusual, so there does seem to
 be a real problem.  Tomorrow I'll try to get a console login - is
 there a boot log that I could rename to keep it so that you can see
 what went wrong?  Maybe some other logs too?  I don't want to
 jeopardise the chances of finding the cause of this.
 
Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line to get
a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit) screen.  Failsafe
appears to be doing better - at least I can see messages.  It reaches

Reached target Multi-User
Reached target Graphical Interface

and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is failing,
and what I need to do to rescue the system?

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-04 Thread Frank Griffin

On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

Not much progress.  My usual method of editing the kernel line to get
a level 3 boot doesn't work - same blank (but lit) screen.  Failsafe
appears to be doing better - at least I can see messages.  It reaches

Reached target Multi-User
Reached target Graphical Interface

and there it sticks.  Does that give any clue as to what is failing,
and what I need to do to rescue the system?

Boot a rescue disk and mount your root partition.  In 
/etc/systemd/system you should see a symlink like:


lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Mar 29 11:00 default.target - 
/lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target


Just remove this and re-symlink to /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target 
and you should get a level 3 boot.


Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-03 Thread Sandro CAZZANIGA
Le 03/04/2013 15:36, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 I've just come across a bug in the software installer - where should
 it be reported?
 
 Anne
 

ON QA list, which I attached in cc, and on bugs.mageia.org :)

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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-03 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 03/04/13 14:37, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
 Le 03/04/2013 15:36, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 I've just come across a bug in the software installer - where
 should it be reported?
 
 Anne
 
 
 ON QA list, which I attached in cc, and on bugs.mageia.org :)
 
Thanks.  Since writing I've discovered that it's not simply what it
appeared to be, so I'll have to get more precise information before I
can report it.  (I did look at bugs, but wasn't sure whether it should
be against Cauldron or not)

Anne
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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-03 Thread Sandro CAZZANIGA
Le 03/04/2013 15:46, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 On 03/04/13 14:37, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
 Le 03/04/2013 15:36, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 I've just come across a bug in the software installer - where
 should it be reported?

 Anne

 
 ON QA list, which I attached in cc, and on bugs.mageia.org :)
 
 Thanks.  Since writing I've discovered that it's not simply what it
 appeared to be, so I'll have to get more precise information before I
 can report it.  (I did look at bugs, but wasn't sure whether it should
 be against Cauldron or not)
 
 Anne
 


Take your time :)

You can also take a look at bugs.mageia.org to see if your bugs is
already reported or even known.


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Re: [Mageia-dev] M3 beta - where to report problems?

2013-04-03 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 03/04/13 14:48, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
 Le 03/04/2013 15:46, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 On 03/04/13 14:37, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
 Le 03/04/2013 15:36, Anne Wilson a écrit :
 I've just come across a bug in the software installer -
 where should it be reported?
 
 Anne
 
 
 ON QA list, which I attached in cc, and on bugs.mageia.org :)
 
 Thanks.  Since writing I've discovered that it's not simply what
 it appeared to be, so I'll have to get more precise information
 before I can report it.  (I did look at bugs, but wasn't sure
 whether it should be against Cauldron or not)
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 Take your time :)
 
 You can also take a look at bugs.mageia.org to see if your bugs is 
 already reported or even known.
 
 
I did get that far - but then I probably wasn't searching for the
right thing, in the light of what happened later.  After installing a
couple of apps I did the day's updates, which required a re-start for
systemd, and it looks as though the update has taken out the video
driver - perhaps it caused the black screens I saw there, though
everything had been fine moments before.

I can't face fighting this today - I'll have to trawl back through old
emails and hope I can find the instructions from last time I lost
video (that was removing obsoletes that took it out).

This is an Acer Aspire One 533, with Intel N550 chipset, everything
on-board.  I wasn't doing anything unusual, so there does seem to be a
real problem.  Tomorrow I'll try to get a console login - is there a
boot log that I could rename to keep it so that you can see what went
wrong?  Maybe some other logs too?  I don't want to jeopardise the
chances of finding the cause of this.

Anne
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