Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
andre999 a écrit : > John a écrit : >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 04:18:19 +0100 >> Simple . wrote: >> >> >>> 2012/5/27 Simple .: >>> 2012/5/27 John: > [...] > _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. > If instead calling _You_ you had first went to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. >> Yes, it is a suggested tool for Windows users, it still requires the user >> to understand how tyhe tool needs to be used - correct? >> > > > For what it is worth, it seems that Simple acted entirely reasonably. > There are no special instructions on the Rufus site on how to use the > application. > Isn't it better to try _constructive_ criticism instead of _blaming_ > someone for having a problem ? > > If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written > the iso image to the device. > Now theres a correct way to use Rufus? >> Of course there is, go to the website! >> > > Again, the web site gives no indication of a _correct way_(tm) to use > Rufus. It just says "Once downloaded, the application is ready to use". > > However, for our wiki, it would be useful to know which version of Rufus > was used, and how it was used. > e.g., if the problem was with the freedos version, and what version of > Ms-windows was used. > Of course, reporting to the Rufus site is important as well. > > The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the > devive truncated the long filenames. > I simply followed what was written in Mageia wiki regarding burning a ISO to a USB pen disk. Also i didnt had any linux OS to be able to burn it for example with dd. >>> But i forgot to say that for Mageia 2 official release there is a >>> problem with the .iso, using dd to save it to a USB pen disk doesnt >>> set it as a bootable device, and this is a new bug to be reported. >>> >> This is NOT a new bug! >> >> One again, your methods are the problem. >> >> Countless other users have managed to write .iso images to USB sticks and >> install from them. >> >> Well in excess of two months of testing of USB installs preceeded the >> release. >> >> I say again, look to your methods >> > > I guess you mean to say that one shouldn't follow suggestions in our wiki ? > How about being a little more positive ? > >> JohnR >> > It would be better to rename this thread : "Can't install Mageia 2 from a usb stick written with rufus" and to add a warning in the wiki if this is confirmed Philippe
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On Sun, 27 May 2012, andre999 wrote: > John a écrit : >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 04:18:19 +0100 >> Simple . wrote: >> >> >>> 2012/5/27 Simple .: >>> 2012/5/27 John: > [...] > _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. > If instead calling _You_ you had first went to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. >> Yes, it is a suggested tool for Windows users, it still requires the user >> to understand how tyhe tool needs to be used - correct? >> > > > For what it is worth, it seems that Simple acted entirely reasonably. > There are no special instructions on the Rufus site on how to use the > application. > Isn't it better to try _constructive_ criticism instead of _blaming_ > someone for having a problem ? If he wanted constructive criticism he should have titled the thread "Problem with XXX" not "XXX is broken" which implies that he has done everything right.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
John a écrit : On Sun, 27 May 2012 04:18:19 +0100 Simple . wrote: 2012/5/27 Simple .: 2012/5/27 John: [...] _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. If instead calling _You_ you had first went to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. Yes, it is a suggested tool for Windows users, it still requires the user to understand how tyhe tool needs to be used - correct? For what it is worth, it seems that Simple acted entirely reasonably. There are no special instructions on the Rufus site on how to use the application. Isn't it better to try _constructive_ criticism instead of _blaming_ someone for having a problem ? If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written the iso image to the device. Now theres a correct way to use Rufus? Of course there is, go to the website! Again, the web site gives no indication of a _correct way_(tm) to use Rufus. It just says "Once downloaded, the application is ready to use". However, for our wiki, it would be useful to know which version of Rufus was used, and how it was used. e.g., if the problem was with the freedos version, and what version of Ms-windows was used. Of course, reporting to the Rufus site is important as well. The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the devive truncated the long filenames. I simply followed what was written in Mageia wiki regarding burning a ISO to a USB pen disk. Also i didnt had any linux OS to be able to burn it for example with dd. But i forgot to say that for Mageia 2 official release there is a problem with the .iso, using dd to save it to a USB pen disk doesnt set it as a bootable device, and this is a new bug to be reported. This is NOT a new bug! One again, your methods are the problem. Countless other users have managed to write .iso images to USB sticks and install from them. Well in excess of two months of testing of USB installs preceeded the release. I say again, look to your methods I guess you mean to say that one shouldn't follow suggestions in our wiki ? How about being a little more positive ? JohnR -- André
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
> 2012/5/27 John : [...] In any case, since an iso file contains a complete disk image, it also contains the directories with the filenames. If the filenames are modified, the iso is modified before burning it (or it's not burned 100% the same) the bootable flag sounds like a similar problem. without knowing the application, it seems to me that the burning application burned only the contents of the ISO, and guessed the partition settings. (iinm burning apps have a specific option to enable long names.)
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On 5/27/2012 12:47 AM, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote: > 2012/5/26 Simple . : >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know >> if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other >> thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce >> this. >> > There is no any mention on Mageia site that Rufus will work with > Mageia ISOs, vice versa. If you find a bug in Rufus, you should always > report it to Rufus developers, because it is not maintained by Mageia. > > The dd way to dump ISO file into USB drive always work for me. > However, if you must do it in Windows, please add yourself to CC list > of this bug: > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4598 > > The most important thing is that you should report your problem to > Rufus developers. Mageia is not involved with Rufus development and > complaining here will not make any progress for you if you want Rufus > be fixed. > > Please noted that even if it got fixed by Rufus developer(s), the > future release of Rufus may still have problems with Mageia ISOs. > Rufus and Mageia are two independent projects and have no any direct > or indirect connection. > Appoint of interest. Not all computers can boot from a USB drive. The older the less likely it is to function. -- David
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/26 Simple . : > i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know > if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other > thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce > this. > There is no any mention on Mageia site that Rufus will work with Mageia ISOs, vice versa. If you find a bug in Rufus, you should always report it to Rufus developers, because it is not maintained by Mageia. The dd way to dump ISO file into USB drive always work for me. However, if you must do it in Windows, please add yourself to CC list of this bug: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4598 The most important thing is that you should report your problem to Rufus developers. Mageia is not involved with Rufus development and complaining here will not make any progress for you if you want Rufus be fixed. Please noted that even if it got fixed by Rufus developer(s), the future release of Rufus may still have problems with Mageia ISOs. Rufus and Mageia are two independent projects and have no any direct or indirect connection.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On Sun, 27 May 2012 04:18:19 +0100 Simple . wrote: > 2012/5/27 Simple . : > > 2012/5/27 John : > >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 02:47:26 +0100 > >> Simple . wrote: > >> > >>> 2012/5/26 zezinho : > >>> > Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: > >>> > > >>> >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont > >>> >> know if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused > >>> >> by other thing, and here would be better that others could test > >>> >> and reproduce this. > >>> > > >>> >> ... > >>> > > >>> >> So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original > >>> >> filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with > >>> >> sucess Mageia 2 install. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the > >>> > files in the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO > >>> > image cannot be modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that > >>> > seems to introduce new bugs. > >>> > > >>> > The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : > >>> > > >>> > dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M > >>> > > >>> > (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed). > >>> > >>> I really dont get what you mean, no one modified the .iso image or > >>> its contents, and what i said is that the packages with long > >>> filenames were modified, the end of the packages names didnt > >>> appear., so instead appearing in the USB pen disk: > >>> > >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm > >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > >>> > >>> it was appearing: > >>> > >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noar > >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 > >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 > >>> > >>> and after i renamed the packages to its original names the install > >>> went ok. > >>> > >> > >> _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. > > > > If instead calling _You_ you had first went to > > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see > > that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. Yes, it is a suggested tool for Windows users, it still requires the user to understand how tyhe tool needs to be used - correct? > > > >> If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written > >> the iso image to the device. > > > > Now theres a correct way to use Rufus? Of course there is, go to the website! > > > >> The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the > >> devive truncated the long filenames. > > > > I simply followed what was written in Mageia wiki regarding burning a > > ISO to a USB pen disk. > > > > > > > > Also i didnt had any linux OS to be able to burn it for example with > > dd. > > But i forgot to say that for Mageia 2 official release there is a > problem with the .iso, using dd to save it to a USB pen disk doesnt > set it as a bootable device, and this is a new bug to be reported. > This is NOT a new bug! One again, your methods are the problem. Countless other users have managed to write .iso images to USB sticks and install from them. Well in excess of two months of testing of USB installs preceeded the release. I say again, look to your methods JohnR
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/27 Simple . : > 2012/5/27 John : >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 02:47:26 +0100 >> Simple . wrote: >> >>> 2012/5/26 zezinho : >>> > Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: >>> > >>> >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know >>> >> if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other >>> >> thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce >>> >> this. >>> > >>> >> ... >>> > >>> >> So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original >>> >> filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with >>> >> sucess Mageia 2 install. >>> > >>> > >>> > I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the >>> > files in the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO image >>> > cannot be modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that seems to >>> > introduce new bugs. >>> > >>> > The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : >>> > >>> > dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M >>> > >>> > (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed). >>> >>> I really dont get what you mean, no one modified the .iso image or its >>> contents, and what i said is that the packages with long filenames >>> were modified, the end of the packages names didnt appear., so instead >>> appearing in the USB pen disk: >>> >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm >>> >>> it was appearing: >>> >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noar >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 >>> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 >>> >>> and after i renamed the packages to its original names the install went >>> ok. >>> >> >> _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. > > If instead calling _You_ you had first went to > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see > that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. > >> If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written the >> iso image to the device. > > Now theres a correct way to use Rufus? > >> The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the devive >> truncated the long filenames. > > I simply followed what was written in Mageia wiki regarding burning a > ISO to a USB pen disk. > > > > Also i didnt had any linux OS to be able to burn it for example with dd. But i forgot to say that for Mageia 2 official release there is a problem with the .iso, using dd to save it to a USB pen disk doesnt set it as a bootable device, and this is a new bug to be reported.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/27 John : > On Sun, 27 May 2012 02:47:26 +0100 > Simple . wrote: > >> 2012/5/26 zezinho : >> > Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: >> > >> >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know >> >> if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other >> >> thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce >> >> this. >> > >> >> ... >> > >> >> So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original >> >> filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with >> >> sucess Mageia 2 install. >> > >> > >> > I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the >> > files in the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO image >> > cannot be modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that seems to >> > introduce new bugs. >> > >> > The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : >> > >> > dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M >> > >> > (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed). >> >> I really dont get what you mean, no one modified the .iso image or its >> contents, and what i said is that the packages with long filenames >> were modified, the end of the packages names didnt appear., so instead >> appearing in the USB pen disk: >> >> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm >> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm >> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm >> >> it was appearing: >> >> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noar >> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 >> vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 >> >> and after i renamed the packages to its original names the install went >> ok. >> > > _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. If instead calling _You_ you had first went to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media *you* had easily see that Rufus is a recommended tool to burn Linux .iso's. > If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written the > iso image to the device. Now theres a correct way to use Rufus? > The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the devive > truncated the long filenames. I simply followed what was written in Mageia wiki regarding burning a ISO to a USB pen disk. Also i didnt had any linux OS to be able to burn it for example with dd.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On Sun, 27 May 2012 02:47:26 +0100 Simple . wrote: > 2012/5/26 zezinho : > > Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: > > > >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know > >> if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other > >> thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce > >> this. > > > >> ... > > > >> So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original > >> filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with > >> sucess Mageia 2 install. > > > > > > I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the > > files in the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO image > > cannot be modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that seems to > > introduce new bugs. > > > > The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : > > > > dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M > > > > (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed). > > I really dont get what you mean, no one modified the .iso image or its > contents, and what i said is that the packages with long filenames > were modified, the end of the packages names didnt appear., so instead > appearing in the USB pen disk: > > telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > > it was appearing: > > telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noar > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 > > and after i renamed the packages to its original names the install went > ok. > _You_ used a Windows application to write the image to the USB key. If _you_ had used the application correctly, you would have written the iso image to the device. The applcation _you_ used to write the content of the iso to the devive truncated the long filenames. _You_ made the errors. JohnR
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/26 zezinho : > Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: > >> i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know >> if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other >> thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce >> this. > >> ... > >> So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original >> filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with >> sucess Mageia 2 install. > > > I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the files in > the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO image cannot be > modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that seems to introduce new bugs. > > The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : > > dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M > > (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed). I really dont get what you mean, no one modified the .iso image or its contents, and what i said is that the packages with long filenames were modified, the end of the packages names didnt appear., so instead appearing in the USB pen disk: telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm it was appearing: telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noar vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86 and after i renamed the packages to its original names the install went ok.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Em 26-05-2012 02:07, Simple . escreveu: i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce this. > ... > So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original > filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with > sucess Mageia 2 install. I don't know rufus, but as you are able to modify the names of the files in the USB, this is not a simple dump of the ISO : an ISO image cannot be modified. This is so a modified DVD image, that seems to introduce new bugs. The only way I know to put Mageia's ISO in a USB key is : dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M (the bs option is only to accelerate writing speed).
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Le 2012-05-25 20:07, Simple . a écrit : 2012/5/25 Maurice Batey: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:01:38 +0100, Simple . wrote: i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded .iso is ok, But did you do a 'check after write", to confirm that the .iso had been correctly writeen to DVD? I hae not build the .iso into a DVD, but burned it into a USB pen disk, and with a more thorough inspection i was able to see that in the severall tries the same files were saved in the USB with INCOMPLETE names, and that happened in files that had very long names, like: telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm and the 19 failed transactions came from failed dependencies due to not recognized the packages with incomplete names. i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce this. Regarding "No ACPI" i can not confirm what Marc Paré said, and again, the install runned fine, so here was not the case that "No ACPI" could make any difference, only if the boot didnt run is that i could try "No ACPI" to see if woud solve it. And when using"No ACPI" the boot freezed. So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with sucess Mageia 2 install. Congratulations on getting it to install. Feel free to let us know how you like the version -- but maybe this would be better done on the users mailing list. Cheers, Marc
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Le 26/05/12 01:07,Simple . nous adresse ces quelques mots : > 2012/5/25 Maurice Batey : >> On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:01:38 +0100, Simple . wrote: >> >>> i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded .iso is ok, >> >> But did you do a 'check after write", to confirm that the .iso had been >> correctly writeen to DVD? > > I hae not build the .iso into a DVD, but burned it into a USB pen > disk, and with a more thorough inspection i was able to see that in > the severall tries the same files were saved in the USB with > INCOMPLETE names, and that happened in files that had very long names, > like: > > telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm > > and the 19 failed transactions came from failed dependencies due to > not recognized the packages with incomplete names. > > i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know > if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other > thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce > this. You can maybe submit a bug report on the rufus website. I guess they will tell you what is the problem. > Regarding "No ACPI" i can not confirm what Marc Paré said, and again, > the install runned fine, so here was not the case that "No ACPI" could > make any difference, only if the boot didnt run is that i could try > "No ACPI" to see if woud solve it. > And when using"No ACPI" the boot freezed. > > So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original > filenames, Wow, that was a weird bug ... > the install went fine and finally made to conclude with > sucess Mageia 2 install. \o/ Yeah! -- Malo
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/25 Maurice Batey : > On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:01:38 +0100, Simple . wrote: > >> i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded .iso is ok, > > But did you do a 'check after write", to confirm that the .iso had been > correctly writeen to DVD? I hae not build the .iso into a DVD, but burned it into a USB pen disk, and with a more thorough inspection i was able to see that in the severall tries the same files were saved in the USB with INCOMPLETE names, and that happened in files that had very long names, like: telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm vboxadditions-kernel-3.3.6-netbook-2.mga2-4.1.12-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm and the 19 failed transactions came from failed dependencies due to not recognized the packages with incomplete names. i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce this. Regarding "No ACPI" i can not confirm what Marc Paré said, and again, the install runned fine, so here was not the case that "No ACPI" could make any difference, only if the boot didnt run is that i could try "No ACPI" to see if woud solve it. And when using"No ACPI" the boot freezed. So when in the USB pen disk i renamed the packages to its original filenames, the install went fine and finally made to conclude with sucess Mageia 2 install.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Hi Juergen, Le 2012-05-25 09:14, Juergen Harms a écrit : Did you file a bug? - I think you should, because - the problem is reproducable on several installations (what do they have in common?) - Mageia should be installable by a newby, without the need to "fiddle with the NO ACPI option" - it is likely that some time some other user will be caught by the same problem, who might not find this thread. I am assuming you are speaking to me (Marc). No I did not file a bug as the installation of problem mobo's has already been foreseen with the "Option" settings on the bottom of the installation page. I have also added a thread on the users' mailing list with the subject line: ""NO ACPI" at install time may work for you" Now that I think of it, should I guess I should leave a note on the forums. Cheers, Marc
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:01:38 +0100, Simple . wrote: > i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded .iso is ok, But did you do a 'check after write", to confirm that the .iso had been correctly writeen to DVD? -- /\/\aurice
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Did you file a bug? - I think you should, because - the problem is reproducable on several installations (what do they have in common?) - Mageia should be installable by a newby, without the need to "fiddle with the NO ACPI option" - it is likely that some time some other user will be caught by the same problem, who might not find this thread.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Le 2012-05-24 20:16, Simple . a écrit : I am writing from a DVD install downloaded from Mageia and burned onto a DVD. I also did a SUM check and all was fine. I tried to install 3-4 times and I got the same messages as you. I then realized that, depending on some boards you may need to install with "NO ACPI" (btw this happened quite regularly with Mandriva". Then install with "NO ACPI" on my machine went well and it was all installed 20 minutes later with no hiccups. Thanks for the tip and clarification, since i was feeling quite alone on this quest, almost like i was inventing something... But i never had any problem in installig mandirva dvd´s but i will now try with "No ACPI" to see if all goes well. No problem. I did tried with "No ACPI" and when using after i enter to install the screen stays black and nothing more happens. Hmm, maybe the installer is having problems with your monitor resolution or your video card. How about on the bottom options, make sure the resolution is F3->800x600 and then do F6->No ACPI and try install again. What makes me confusion is that until this release i never problems like this. Yup. These things happen. Could you also send the motherboard and videocard that you are using? Cheers, Marc
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Simple . : > 2012/5/24 Marc Paré : >> Hi Simple >> >> Le 2012-05-24 13:47, Simple . a écrit : >> >>> 2012/5/24 Marc Paré: Hi Simple Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : > Hi, > > I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the > install i get this first problem: > > Instalation failed, some files are missing: > > > /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. > You may need to update your urpmi databse. > Try to continue anyway? > > and almost at the install i get another message saying there are 19 > transactions failed, severall tehepathy packages, kcm, module and > severall x11-driver-video-* packages. > Anyway i end the instalation, reboot and then it doesnt even appears > KDM, but even if i login in cli and run startx continues not being > possible to enter in X > > Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put > it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. > At the point where it says "Install Mageia" and all the other choices, look on the bottom for additional options, hit F6 and pick "No ACPI" and continue as per normal with the installation.This may solve your problem. >>> >>> If the problem was from there i wouldnt be able to boot the installer. >>> The installer starts fine, and all goes fine untill the point i get the >>> message: >>> >>> Instalation failed, some files are missing: >>> >>> /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. >>> You may need to update your urpmi databse. >>> Try to continue anyway? >>> >>> and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this >>> iso. >>> >>> I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats >>> happening. >>> >> >> I am writing from a DVD install downloaded from Mageia and burned onto a >> DVD. I also did a SUM check and all was fine. I tried to install 3-4 times >> and I got the same messages as you. I then realized that, depending on some >> boards you may need to install with "NO ACPI" (btw this happened quite >> regularly with Mandriva". >> >> Then install with "NO ACPI" on my machine went well and it was all installed >> 20 minutes later with no hiccups. > > Thanks for the tip and clarification, since i was feeling quite alone > on this quest, almost like i was inventing something... > But i never had any problem in installig mandirva dvd´s but i will now > try with "No ACPI" to see if all goes well. I did tried with "No ACPI" and when using after i enter to install the screen stays black and nothing more happens. What makes me confusion is that until this release i never problems like this.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Marc Paré : > Hi Simple > > Le 2012-05-24 13:47, Simple . a écrit : > >> 2012/5/24 Marc Paré: >>> >>> Hi Simple >>> >>> Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : >>> Hi, I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the install i get this first problem: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and almost at the install i get another message saying there are 19 transactions failed, severall tehepathy packages, kcm, module and severall x11-driver-video-* packages. Anyway i end the instalation, reboot and then it doesnt even appears KDM, but even if i login in cli and run startx continues not being possible to enter in X Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. >>> >>> At the point where it says "Install Mageia" and all the other choices, >>> look >>> on the bottom for additional options, hit F6 and pick "No ACPI" and >>> continue >>> as per normal with the installation.This may solve your problem. >>> >> >> If the problem was from there i wouldnt be able to boot the installer. >> The installer starts fine, and all goes fine untill the point i get the >> message: >> >> Instalation failed, some files are missing: >> >> /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. >> You may need to update your urpmi databse. >> Try to continue anyway? >> >> and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this >> iso. >> >> I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats >> happening. >> > > I am writing from a DVD install downloaded from Mageia and burned onto a > DVD. I also did a SUM check and all was fine. I tried to install 3-4 times > and I got the same messages as you. I then realized that, depending on some > boards you may need to install with "NO ACPI" (btw this happened quite > regularly with Mandriva". > > Then install with "NO ACPI" on my machine went well and it was all installed > 20 minutes later with no hiccups. Thanks for the tip and clarification, since i was feeling quite alone on this quest, almost like i was inventing something... But i never had any problem in installig mandirva dvd´s but i will now try with "No ACPI" to see if all goes well.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Hello On Thursday 24 May 2012 at 19:47:08, Simple . wrote : > If the problem was from there i wouldnt be able to boot the installer. > The installer starts fine, and all goes fine untill the point i get the > message: > > Instalation failed, some files are missing: > /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1 > -mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. > Try to continue anyway? > > and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this > iso. > > I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats > happening. I have tried an install in a VM with the x86_64 DVD, downloaded using bittorrent (sha1sum tells me it is OK). I did a typical KDE install, no error during install, and after reboot I checked that the package telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1.mga2 is actually installed. -- Renaud Michel
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Hi Simple Le 2012-05-24 13:47, Simple . a écrit : 2012/5/24 Marc Paré: Hi Simple Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : Hi, I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the install i get this first problem: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and almost at the install i get another message saying there are 19 transactions failed, severall tehepathy packages, kcm, module and severall x11-driver-video-* packages. Anyway i end the instalation, reboot and then it doesnt even appears KDM, but even if i login in cli and run startx continues not being possible to enter in X Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. At the point where it says "Install Mageia" and all the other choices, look on the bottom for additional options, hit F6 and pick "No ACPI" and continue as per normal with the installation.This may solve your problem. If the problem was from there i wouldnt be able to boot the installer. The installer starts fine, and all goes fine untill the point i get the message: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this iso. I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats happening. I am writing from a DVD install downloaded from Mageia and burned onto a DVD. I also did a SUM check and all was fine. I tried to install 3-4 times and I got the same messages as you. I then realized that, depending on some boards you may need to install with "NO ACPI" (btw this happened quite regularly with Mandriva". Then install with "NO ACPI" on my machine went well and it was all installed 20 minutes later with no hiccups. Give it a try. Cheers, Marc
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Simple . : >> Either there is a problem on the DVD (when burning it) or for some >> reason it fails to read it at some point during install (ide/sata >> driver problem ?) I forgot to mention that i have already burned 3 times the iso into the USB pen disk and always get the same exact errors, the isntall finishes, i click in Reboot button and when booting it stops and doesnt presents KDM to allow to login into X.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Pascal Terjan : > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Simple . wrote: >> 2012/5/24 Manuel Hiebel : >>> Le 24/05/2012 19:47, Simple . a écrit : >>> Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this iso. I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats happening. >>> >>> grep telepathy-kde-common-internals /mnt/data/iso/final/*/*idx >>> /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-i586-DVD/Mageia-2-i586-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-i586 >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) >>> /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-x86_64 >>> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) >>> >>> seems your dvd is not complete >> >> Thats exactly what i said, the package does exist in DVD but the >> installer does not detect it, so seams that >> hdlist.cz/synthesis.hdlist.cz is not reporting correctly the existant >> packages. > > No, this error means it is correclty listed on the hdlist but it fails > to read it from the CD That is not the only eror, theres another almost at the end of the isntall as reported in the first message, and says about 19 failed transactions. >> And in previous message i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded >> .iso is ok, so please dont tell me that is *my* DVD that is not >> complete. > > Either there is a problem on the DVD (when burning it) or for some > reason it fails to read it at some point during install (ide/sata > driver problem ?) I burn the .iso into a USB pen disk Kingstom 4GB DataTraveler and all went fine when for example i installed Mageia 2 beta 3 and RC.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Simple . wrote: > 2012/5/24 Manuel Hiebel : >> Le 24/05/2012 19:47, Simple . a écrit : >> >>> Instalation failed, some files are missing: >>> >>> /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. >>> You may need to update your urpmi databse. >>> Try to continue anyway? >>> >>> and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this >>> iso. >>> >>> I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats >>> happening. >> >> grep telepathy-kde-common-internals /mnt/data/iso/final/*/*idx >> /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-i586-DVD/Mageia-2-i586-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-i586 >> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) >> /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-x86_64 >> telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) >> >> seems your dvd is not complete > > Thats exactly what i said, the package does exist in DVD but the > installer does not detect it, so seams that > hdlist.cz/synthesis.hdlist.cz is not reporting correctly the existant > packages. No, this error means it is correclty listed on the hdlist but it fails to read it from the CD > And in previous message i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded > .iso is ok, so please dont tell me that is *my* DVD that is not > complete. Either there is a problem on the DVD (when burning it) or for some reason it fails to read it at some point during install (ide/sata driver problem ?)
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Manuel Hiebel : > Le 24/05/2012 19:47, Simple . a écrit : > >> Instalation failed, some files are missing: >> >> /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. >> You may need to update your urpmi databse. >> Try to continue anyway? >> >> and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this >> iso. >> >> I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats >> happening. > > grep telepathy-kde-common-internals /mnt/data/iso/final/*/*idx > /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-i586-DVD/Mageia-2-i586-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-i586 > telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) > /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-x86_64 > telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) > > seems your dvd is not complete Thats exactly what i said, the package does exist in DVD but the installer does not detect it, so seams that hdlist.cz/synthesis.hdlist.cz is not reporting correctly the existant packages. And in previous message i said that md5 was checked, so the downloaded .iso is ok, so please dont tell me that is *my* DVD that is not complete.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Le 24/05/2012 19:47, Simple . a écrit : Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this iso. I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats happening. grep telepathy-kde-common-internals /mnt/data/iso/final/*/*idx /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-i586-DVD/Mageia-2-i586-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-i586 telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) /mnt/data/iso/final/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD.idx:Mageia-2-x86_64 telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0 (noarch) seems your dvd is not complete
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/24 Marc Paré : > Hi Simple > > Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the >> install i get this first problem: >> >> Instalation failed, some files are missing: >> >> /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. >> You may need to update your urpmi databse. >> Try to continue anyway? >> >> and almost at the install i get another message saying there are 19 >> transactions failed, severall tehepathy packages, kcm, module and >> severall x11-driver-video-* packages. >> Anyway i end the instalation, reboot and then it doesnt even appears >> KDM, but even if i login in cli and run startx continues not being >> possible to enter in X >> >> Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put >> it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. >> > > At the point where it says "Install Mageia" and all the other choices, look > on the bottom for additional options, hit F6 and pick "No ACPI" and continue > as per normal with the installation.This may solve your problem. > If the problem was from there i wouldnt be able to boot the installer. The installer starts fine, and all goes fine untill the point i get the message: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and that package does exist, so the problem is about listed files in this iso. I just would like some one could try the DVD install and say whats happening.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Hi Simple Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : Hi, I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the install i get this first problem: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm. You may need to update your urpmi databse. Try to continue anyway? and almost at the install i get another message saying there are 19 transactions failed, severall tehepathy packages, kcm, module and severall x11-driver-video-* packages. Anyway i end the instalation, reboot and then it doesnt even appears KDM, but even if i login in cli and run startx continues not being possible to enter in X Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. At the point where it says "Install Mageia" and all the other choices, look on the bottom for additional options, hit F6 and pick "No ACPI" and continue as per normal with the installation.This may solve your problem. Happy install! Cheers, Marc
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
24.05.2012 01:39, Simple . kirjutas: > I did checked md5 before i report anything. Did you test downloaded iso or did you test DVD? -- Sander
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
2012/5/23 zezinho : > Em 23-05-2012 23:03, Simple . escreveu: > >> Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put >> it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. > > > Do you believe ISO are not tested? You should check twice your iso > download... checksums must be bad I did checked md5 before i report anything.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken
Em 23-05-2012 23:03, Simple . escreveu: Another problem with the dvd iso, is that burning with dd doesnt put it bootable, doesnt appears to be hybrid. Do you believe ISO are not tested? You should check twice your iso download... checksums must be bad
