Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/1/5 Buchan Milne bgmi...@zarb.org: -Possibly considering contacting large mirror sites (e.g. mirrors.kernel.org) who currently mirror Mandriva, but not Mageia? Just for the records: mirrors.kernel.org mirror Mageia. But surely there are more large sites to be contacted. carroll.aset.psu.edu is one of the major mirrors in the USA that's missing Mageia still.
Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki
Glen Ogilvie wrote: On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. Does anyone have a complete mirror / copy of the Mandriva svn repository, or a complete set of SRPMs from cooker? I would be concerned this becomes unavailable, as it's a valuable resource for packages not yet imported into Mageia and contains a history of the package that Mageia does not have. I asked about this on IRC and was directed to http://rsvndump.sourceforge.net/ as a tool that can be used to download their SVN repository. I'd *really* like to see this happen and be somewhere that everyone has access to (i.e. not have me try to do it myself). If there's anything needed to help make this happen, I'm willing to help however I can. I'd really hate for us to lose MDV's SVN packages repository.
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Le vendredi 06 janvier 2012 à 20:31 +1300, Glen Ogilvie a écrit : On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. Does anyone have a complete mirror / copy of the Mandriva svn repository, or a complete set of SRPMs from cooker? I would be concerned this becomes unavailable, as it's a valuable resource for packages not yet imported into Mageia and contains a history of the package that Mageia does not have. D-C should still hold the srpm. For the svn you would have to start now syncing, IMHO. ( even if I doubt mdv will die ) -- Michael Scherer
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On Friday 06 January 2012 08:31, Glen Ogilvie wrote: Does anyone have .. a complete set of SRPMs from cooker? I just did a du -hs to see how large the SRPMS dir is for the last two releases, in case anyone wan't to know how much they will have to mirror. 2011 - 50GB 2010.2 - 46GB Personally I'm in the process of downloading 2010.2's SRPMS dir, for the first time, just in case Mandriva really does get shut down, and the mirrors automatically remove it. (2010.2 is the latest MDV I have installed on my systems. I only have a virtual 2011 install, for development purposes) Thou I seriously don't believe All of the mirrors will start to remove Mandriva from their servers. Especially those who still have old releases. Some mirrors still have everything as far back as MDK 7.2. So, some mirrors will exist even if Mandriva closes down. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On 01/06/2012 12:21 PM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: Thou I seriously don't believe All of the mirrors will start to remove Mandriva from their servers. Especially those who still have old releases. Some mirrors still have everything as far back as MDK 7.2. So, some mirrors will exist even if Mandriva closes down. I doubt that Olivier Thauvin (the maintainer of distrib-coffee) would get rid of them if they were of use to Mageia.
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Am 06.01.2012 19:00, schrieb Frank Griffin: On 01/06/2012 12:21 PM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: Thou I seriously don't believe All of the mirrors will start to remove Mandriva from their servers. Especially those who still have old releases. Some mirrors still have everything as far back as MDK 7.2. So, some mirrors will exist even if Mandriva closes down. I doubt that Olivier Thauvin (the maintainer of distrib-coffee) would get rid of them if they were of use to Mageia. They are, because otherwise changelogs predating 2007.1 would be lost due to various SVN crashes.
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 06 janvier 2012 à 20:31 +1300, Glen Ogilvie a écrit : On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. Does anyone have a complete mirror / copy of the Mandriva svn repository, or a complete set of SRPMs from cooker? I would be concerned this becomes unavailable, as it's a valuable resource for packages not yet imported into Mageia and contains a history of the package that Mageia does not have. D-C should still hold the srpm. D-C = distrib-coffee? I've grabbed my own copy of all the srpms for cooker, along with plf and the new replacement for plf; (ftp://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/restricted/2011.0/SRPMS/), As I didn't know how long they would stay on the mirrors. If anyone is looking for something in the future, I'll have a copy dated 6/1/2012. Regards Glen Ogilvie
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On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. There may be more consequences / preparation than ensuring our web content is fully independant. We may need to consider: 1)Prepare for upgrading our servers from Mandiva 2010.x to Mageia (1?). However, I know for a fact that some packages we have on them are not available in Mageia yet. 2)Ensuring we are ready for users who are still on Mandriva to migrate to Mageia. IMHO, this should mean: -Backports media resolved -Highlighting documentation on upgrading / switching (e.g. downgrading from Mandriva 2011 to Mageia 1, even if it is by exporting package leaf list and backing up /etc, /usr/local/ etc. and re-install keeping /home) such as http://www.mageia.org/en/1/migrate/ on the Wiki and website/blog post -Forum section dedicated to assisting users migrating? -Blog post prepared, something that commenters on various news sites can point to in replies? -Possibly considering contacting large mirror sites (e.g. mirrors.kernel.org) who currently mirror Mandriva, but not Mageia? -A concerted effort to start producing comprehensive documentation, as soon we may not be able to point users to online copies of Mandriva documentation (I personally need to upgrade 3 of my machines and a few machines of friends/family/colleagues) Regards, Buchan
Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki
2012/1/5 Buchan Milne bgmi...@zarb.org: -Possibly considering contacting large mirror sites (e.g. mirrors.kernel.org) who currently mirror Mandriva, but not Mageia? Just for the records: mirrors.kernel.org mirror Mageia. But surely there are more large sites to be contacted. -- wobo
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Le 05/01/2012 15:54, Buchan Milne a écrit : On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbucoo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. There may be more consequences / preparation than ensuring our web content is fully independant. We may need to consider: 1)Prepare for upgrading our servers from Mandiva 2010.x to Mageia (1?). However, I know for a fact that some packages we have on them are not available in Mageia yet. This will be done this month with boklm, misc, rtp and I going to our datacenter in Marseille for the upgrade, the installation of a new server for QA/packagers and the installation of the ARM BS. [...] Dams -- Damien Lallement Treasurer of Mageia.Org twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki
On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. Does anyone have a complete mirror / copy of the Mandriva svn repository, or a complete set of SRPMs from cooker? I would be concerned this becomes unavailable, as it's a valuable resource for packages not yet imported into Mageia and contains a history of the package that Mageia does not have. Regards Glen Ogilvie
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On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Where did you hear this? Or did you make a general comment on the fact that external wikis sometimes may shut down? -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Mandriva is on the path to filing for bankruptcy on January 16th. Sources (in French): * https://linuxfr.org/users/jaypee/journaux/fin-de-mandriva * http://www.boursorama.com/forum-mandriva-ex-mandrakesoft-courrier-de-mandriva-414340508-1 In the event it does occur, their servers may be shut down anytime.
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Am 04.01.2012 22:36, schrieb Johnny A. Solbu: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What? Are Mandriva serisouly considering closing down the Wiki? Where did you hear this? Or did you make a general comment on the fact that external wikis sometimes may shut down? You didn't get the thread in the international Mandriva forum? Have a look: http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?p=854370#p854370
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W dniu 04.01.2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny pisze: Would be good too to be able to mount a static mirror copy of it, if it's needed, but I am not sure how to import it (wget'ing a mediawiki instance is tricky). Please take a look here http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/
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Am Donnerstag, 5. Januar 2012, 00:33:16 schrieb Kamil Rytarowski: W dniu 04.01.2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny pisze: Would be good too to be able to mount a static mirror copy of it, if it's needed, but I am not sure how to import it (wget'ing a mediawiki instance is tricky). Please take a look here http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ I'm trying this just now. Will keep you informed. Thanks Kamil for pointing to this project. Oliver
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On Wednesday 04 January 2012 22:57, Florian Hubold wrote: You didn't get the thread in the international Mandriva forum? No. I don't watch forums. I'm an old school user who started with Usenet in august 1998, and IRC a month later. I only use/read forums when I have to, like searching google for solutions to various problems. ;-)= I remember my ISP at that time, actively advertized Usenet groups back then. They even had Outlook Express automatically setup with a Usenet account as part of the automatic email setup routine. That's how I discovered usenet, and I still use it to this day. The only modern forum I use is facebook, only because it forces everyone to use their actuall names. I use it soley for the purpose of keeping in contact with friends who don't like email and IRC to much. :-)= -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
