Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Am 28.01.2012 09:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > on my cauldron virtual machine (updated and rebooted as of yesterday), > virtuoso-t takes more than 200MB in ram taking by far the first position on > this 1GB virtual machine. It also uses about 75% of a CPU core all the time. > > what does it actually do? is this even needed? and why is it leaking so much > memory? It's the database backend for Nepomuk, and i assume that it does the initial indexing of your /home. It does not leak memory, and it's not really needed, you might want to disable Nepomuk/Strigi altogether. You might want to look at http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/ for some context information and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 or https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281653 for bug information. > even firefox is taking only 60MB, mysqld (from akonadi) taking only 80MB, and > X > taking 36MB and plasma 12MB... > > after killing it, in less than 10min, it's back up there using already 100MB > and 75% CPU of a core. > > on such a mostly idle VM, i don't see the benefit... > > i note that it doesn't always use 75% CPU, sometimes it doesn't use any CPU, > but the next minute it's back to use 75% . > > just wondering if there's a good reason for this? >
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 18:56:35 schreef Florian Hubold: > Am 28.01.2012 09:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: [...] > > what does it actually do? is this even needed? and why is it leaking so > > much memory? > > It's the database backend for Nepomuk, and i assume that it does the > initial indexing of your /home. It does not leak memory, and it's not > really needed, > you might want to disable Nepomuk/Strigi altogether. > > You might want to look at > http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/ > for some context information and > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 or > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281653 for bug information. [...] > > just wondering if there's a good reason for this? well, i was thinking if it's here by default, there must be a good reason... but imho it takes way too much resources.
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
On Sunday 29 January 2012 18:45:18 Maarten Vanraes wrote : > Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 18:56:35 schreef Florian Hubold: > > Am 28.01.2012 09:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > [...] > > > > what does it actually do? is this even needed? and why is it leaking so > > > much memory? > > > > It's the database backend for Nepomuk, and i assume that it does the > > initial indexing of your /home. It does not leak memory, and it's not > > really needed, > > you might want to disable Nepomuk/Strigi altogether. > > > > You might want to look at > > http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/ > > for some context information and > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 or > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281653 for bug information. > > [...] > > > > just wondering if there's a good reason for this? > > well, i was thinking if it's here by default, there must be a good reason... > > but imho it takes way too much resources. Nepomuk (& so virtuoso) is only required by a few packages (like kmail or bangarang for example), so you can of course remove/disable it if you don't want to use it. Regards, -- Balcaen John Jabber-id: mik...@jabber.littleboboy.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Op zondag 29 januari 2012 19:00:41 schreef Balcaen John: > On Sunday 29 January 2012 18:45:18 Maarten Vanraes wrote : > > Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 18:56:35 schreef Florian Hubold: > > > Am 28.01.2012 09:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > > [...] > > > > > > what does it actually do? is this even needed? and why is it leaking > > > > so much memory? > > > > > > It's the database backend for Nepomuk, and i assume that it does the > > > initial indexing of your /home. It does not leak memory, and it's not > > > really needed, > > > you might want to disable Nepomuk/Strigi altogether. > > > > > > You might want to look at > > > http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/ > > > for some context information and > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 or > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281653 for bug information. > > > > [...] > > > > > > just wondering if there's a good reason for this? > > > > well, i was thinking if it's here by default, there must be a good > > reason... > > > > but imho it takes way too much resources. > > Nepomuk (& so virtuoso) is only required by a few packages (like kmail or > bangarang for example), so you can of course remove/disable it if you don't > want to use it. > > Regards, required by kmail? i use kmail... if this is somekind of desktop search stuff, i'd like to disable it while still having kmail working...
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Am 29.01.2012 19:16, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > Op zondag 29 januari 2012 19:00:41 schreef Balcaen John: >> On Sunday 29 January 2012 18:45:18 Maarten Vanraes wrote : >>> Op zaterdag 28 januari 2012 18:56:35 schreef Florian Hubold: Am 28.01.2012 09:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: >>> [...] >>> > what does it actually do? is this even needed? and why is it leaking > so much memory? It's the database backend for Nepomuk, and i assume that it does the initial indexing of your /home. It does not leak memory, and it's not really needed, you might want to disable Nepomuk/Strigi altogether. You might want to look at http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/virtuoso-once-more-with-feeling/ for some context information and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 or https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281653 for bug information. >>> [...] >>> > just wondering if there's a good reason for this? >>> well, i was thinking if it's here by default, there must be a good >>> reason... >>> >>> but imho it takes way too much resources. >> Nepomuk (& so virtuoso) is only required by a few packages (like kmail or >> bangarang for example), so you can of course remove/disable it if you don't >> want to use it. >> >> Regards, > required by kmail? > > i use kmail... > > if this is somekind of desktop search stuff, i'd like to disable it while > still > having kmail working... Did you read me reply? See above.
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Op zondag 29 januari 2012 21:46:54 schreef Florian Hubold: > Am 29.01.2012 19:16, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > > Op zondag 29 januari 2012 19:00:41 schreef Balcaen John: [..] > >> Nepomuk (& so virtuoso) is only required by a few packages (like kmail > >> or bangarang for example), so you can of course remove/disable it if > >> you don't want to use it. > >> > >> Regards, > > > > required by kmail? > > > > i use kmail... > > > > if this is somekind of desktop search stuff, i'd like to disable it while > > still having kmail working... > > Did you read me reply? See above. reply said it was needed for kmail. can i really disable this and still have functional kmail? and how? iirc there was suddenly this icon about desktop search? I assume that's it? i removed the applet, but i guess it didn't stop. how can i stop this permanently? without also disabling kmail to work?
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Am 30.01.2012 08:32, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: > Op zondag 29 januari 2012 21:46:54 schreef Florian Hubold: >> Am 29.01.2012 19:16, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: >>> Op zondag 29 januari 2012 19:00:41 schreef Balcaen John: > [..] Nepomuk (& so virtuoso) is only required by a few packages (like kmail or bangarang for example), so you can of course remove/disable it if you don't want to use it. Regards, >>> required by kmail? >>> >>> i use kmail... >>> >>> if this is somekind of desktop search stuff, i'd like to disable it while >>> still having kmail working... >> Did you read me reply? See above. > reply said it was needed for kmail. can i really disable this and still have > functional kmail? > > and how? iirc there was suddenly this icon about desktop search? I assume > that's it? i removed the applet, but i guess it didn't stop. how can i stop > this permanently? without also disabling kmail to work? > That was mikala's reply. Maybe you should ask him, i'm not really helpful because i don't use either one of kmail, akonadi, nepomuk or strigi. You should be able to disable strigi (index & search daemon) and the indexing of nepomuk, but i'm not sure about nepomuk itself. From what i've read, it can't be completely disabled as since recently many kde features depend on it. You still might want to look at f.ex. http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/akonadi-nepomuk-and-strigi-explained/ for what's what of Soprano, Virtuoso, Nepomuk, Strigi and Akonadi.
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
On Monday 30 January 2012 08:32:20 Maarten Vanraes wrote : [...] > > reply said it was needed for kmail. can i really disable this and still have > functional kmail? You can disable it, you'll miss (at least from the shiny yellow banner you're getting in kmail) autocompletion for contact, lists support & cryptographic options per user but maybe it's more than that i don't know. > and how? > iirc there was suddenly this icon about desktop search? I assume > that's it? i removed the applet, but i guess it didn't stop. how can i stop > this permanently? without also disabling kmail to work? You can use systemsettings to configure/(dis)enable the desktop search function (also know as nepomuk :p ). Regards, -- Balcaen John Jabber-id: mik...@jabber.littleboboy.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
> On Monday 30 January 2012 08:32:20 Maarten Vanraes wrote : > [...] >> >> reply said it was needed for kmail. can i really disable this and still >> have >> functional kmail? > You can disable it, you'll miss (at least from the shiny yellow banner > you're > getting in kmail) autocompletion for contact, lists support & > cryptographic > options per user but maybe it's more than that i don't know. hmm, i like these functions. this is why i asked, because i like these functions, but still, even when it's been configured by default as using 50MB, it's over 200MB, and using all these resources. is this fixable? looking at those bug reports, it looks like this has been going on for a while now... >> and how? >> iirc there was suddenly this icon about desktop search? I assume >> that's it? i removed the applet, but i guess it didn't stop. how can i >> stop >> this permanently? without also disabling kmail to work? > You can use systemsettings to configure/(dis)enable the desktop search > function > (also know as nepomuk :p ). disabling this desktop search does not have effect on the kmail? i would guess not from how you put it, but i'm just asking for confirmation here :-)
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
On Monday 30 January 2012 12:48:18 Maarten Vanraes wrote : [...] > > is this fixable? looking at those bug reports, it looks like this has been > going on for a while now... Well until upstream fix it i guess we're stuck with it :/ [...] > > disabling this desktop search does not have effect on the kmail? > > i would guess not from how you put it, but i'm just asking for > confirmation here :-) If you disable desktop search it won't work in kmail. Also i'm not sure if it's fixed but if i'm not wrong the « disable kmail index » functionnality does not work (even if it's supposed to be disable it's going to work...) Regards, -- Balcaen John Jabber-id: mik...@jabber.littleboboy.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
Op maandag 30 januari 2012 14:50:11 schreef Balcaen John: > On Monday 30 January 2012 12:48:18 Maarten Vanraes wrote : > [...] > > > is this fixable? looking at those bug reports, it looks like this has > > been going on for a while now... > > Well until upstream fix it i guess we're stuck with it :/ Well, thanks for the info at least... > > disabling this desktop search does not have effect on the kmail? > > > > i would guess not from how you put it, but i'm just asking for > > confirmation here :-) > > If you disable desktop search it won't work in kmail. > Also i'm not sure if it's fixed but if i'm not wrong the « disable kmail > index » functionnality does not work (even if it's supposed to be disable > it's going to work...) /me facepalms...
Re: [Mageia-dev] virtuoso-t (nepomuk?) takes too much memory (and CPU)
On Monday 30 January 2012 20:14:47 Maarten Vanraes wrote : [...] > > /me facepalms... You can read this thread if you want http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=132769144326703&w=2 Regards, -- Balcaen John Jabber-id: mik...@jabber.littleboboy.net
