Re: [Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
treal tv writes: > I hadn't considered this yet. I had planned to help with patches so > yeah, I think i'll be rebuilding from the repo! Thanks, I hadn't > even thought about that yet. I think the way to think about it is that bundler is a system for distributing a "turnkey" Mailman installation (I guess the more modern term is "app" but we're way far from getting there!) If you are interested in contributing to the distribution methods themselves (and that is *very* important, at this point distribution and upgrade from Mailman 2 are probably more important *to our users*[1] than code improvement), install bundler (probably alongside a repo installation, or including a repo installation). Otherwise, bundler itself is still unstable, and will distract you from working on Mailman, Postorius, and/or HyperKitty code. Of course if you just want a working Mailman installation that you can start up, configure, and then ignore, try bundler. It does work for a lot of people at some instants of time. ;-) Footnotes: [1] Remember, we're all volunteers. Users are important to most core contributors "just because we care", but you are a volunteer[2] too. Over time we'll train you to be more user-oriented, but for now, have fun! [2] That's mostly remains true if you are a GSoC intern. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
I hadn't considered this yet. I had planned to help with patches so yeah, I think i'll be rebuilding from the repo! Thanks, I hadn't even thought about that yet. On 03/14/2016 06:24 PM, Simon Hanna wrote: In case you want to turn in patches (merge requests) then having a repo is a must. And if you don't plan to turn in patches it's still useful. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
I might be misunderstanding you, Simon, but should I not be using Mailman 3 built with the bundler if I intend to modify/further build on the code? I've been working off one built with the bundler for the last couple months and it's tolerated the mods I made without issue but I'd rather switch to source built sooner rather than later if it's going to matter in the future. On 03/14/2016 03:31 PM, Simon Hanna wrote: On 03/14/2016 07:25 PM, Dominic Dambrogia wrote: Hi, My name is Dominic. I contacted this mailing list last week about list moderation and post approval. My problem was not being able to set a list password via the REST api. I need this for nonmember approval of posting to a mailing list via email in the "Approved: *list password*" style in the first line of the email like the default request for moderation email suggests. I'd like to go ahead and tackle this problem personally. I would appreciate some insight on where to start looking in the project itself. I've only installed the bundler and used REST so far, so my knowledge of how the python code works so far is minimal. Any insight is greatly appreciated, thanks. - Dominic If you want to actually develop mailman, you shouldn't use bundler for that. Check out the following two pages that help you with some git knowledge and setting up your dev environment. http://wiki.list.org/DEV/HowToContributeGit http://wiki.list.org/DEV/SetupDevEnvironment You should create an issue on gitlab https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues if there isn't one already. This issue can be used to discuss specifics about the implementation. You could try the irc channel #mailman on freenode for help in case you need something. You can of course also post to this list. All the code regarding the rest interface lives in src/mailman/rest I hope this get's you started, Simon ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/trealtv%40yandex.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
On 03/14/2016 10:34 PM, treal tv wrote: > I might be misunderstanding you, Simon, but should I not be using Mailman 3 > built with the bundler > if I intend to modify/further build on the code? > > I've been working off one built with the bundler for the last couple months > and it's tolerated the > mods I made without issue but I'd rather switch to source built sooner rather > than later if it's > going to matter in the future. I'm unaware of any real downside to using the repo (unless you are a security fanatic and want stuff tested for a couple of years ^^) You can also use bundler with git repos. You'll just have to do run "python setup.py develop" for mailman in the python3 virtualenv that bundler installs. Note you will want to use the other repos as well, as there might be some incompatibilities. Now to why you should be using it: In case you want to turn in patches (merge requests) then having a repo is a must. And if you don't plan to turn in patches it's still useful. You can work on another branch than master and whenever upstream has new commits you can rebase them into your branch. That way you stay up to date without too much maintenance ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
On 03/14/2016 07:25 PM, Dominic Dambrogia wrote: > Hi, My name is Dominic. > I contacted this mailing list last week about list moderation and post > approval. My problem was not being able to set a list password via the REST > api. I need this for nonmember approval of posting to a mailing list via > email in the "Approved: *list password*" style in the first line of the > email like the default request for moderation email suggests. > > I'd like to go ahead and tackle this problem personally. I would appreciate > some insight on where to start looking in the project itself. I've only > installed the bundler and used REST so far, so my knowledge of how the > python code works so far is minimal. > > Any insight is greatly appreciated, thanks. > - Dominic If you want to actually develop mailman, you shouldn't use bundler for that. Check out the following two pages that help you with some git knowledge and setting up your dev environment. http://wiki.list.org/DEV/HowToContributeGit http://wiki.list.org/DEV/SetupDevEnvironment You should create an issue on gitlab https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues if there isn't one already. This issue can be used to discuss specifics about the implementation. You could try the irc channel #mailman on freenode for help in case you need something. You can of course also post to this list. All the code regarding the rest interface lives in src/mailman/rest I hope this get's you started, Simon ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Developers] adding to REST
Hi, My name is Dominic. I contacted this mailing list last week about list moderation and post approval. My problem was not being able to set a list password via the REST api. I need this for nonmember approval of posting to a mailing list via email in the "Approved: *list password*" style in the first line of the email like the default request for moderation email suggests. I'd like to go ahead and tackle this problem personally. I would appreciate some insight on where to start looking in the project itself. I've only installed the bundler and used REST so far, so my knowledge of how the python code works so far is minimal. Any insight is greatly appreciated, thanks. - Dominic ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
