[Mailman-Users] cron error : gate_news, permission denied

2001-03-29 Thread Murat Balkas

Hi,

I get this error almost every minute. If check the permissions I see
that config.db of all lists are owned by nobody ( web user ). Is it not
okey? Should I chown?

Your "cron" job on mail
/usr/local/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news

produced the following output:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 222, in ?
main()
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 203, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 140, in process_lists
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/export/home/mailman/lists/test1/config.db'



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request

2001-03-29 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

"Richard B. Pyne" wrote:

 My second, and almost as important, request: Provide a way to specify
 the list domain name at the time of list creation instead of having
 to change it after creation. This causes confusion for users of
 virtual domains.

Don't see why you have to do that.  I run mailman across three
different vdomains and I never have to change the list domain name.  It
automatically knows what its (correct) vdomain is when it gets created.

AMK4

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[Mailman-Users] RE:Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #1110 - 9 msgs

2001-03-29 Thread lcarter1

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Today's Topics:

   1. Is it a Bug ? (Mathew Simon)
   2. Weird stuff (Jones, Adrian)
   3. Wrapper gets wrong HOME directory (Blandford, Simon [BSS Audio UK])
   4. Re: Wrapper gets wrong HOME directory (Gergo Soros)
   5. cron error : gate_news, permission denied (Murat Balkas)
   6. Feature request (Richard B. Pyne)
   7. Re: Feature request (Ashley M. Kirchner)
   8. Personal Trainer (Abigail Spencer)
   9. Mailman and I18N? (=?iso-8859-1?q?J=E9r=F4me=20Loisel?=)



Hi,

I am the administrator of a non-profit mailing list. First of all let me
thank you for letting us use a great product. Now let me explain the
problem.

I have a mailing list, with the following settings
1. Posting allowed only for the list members.

2. Temporarily we have put the list under moderation. In this setting, all
messages have to be approved by the list administrator.

a). Under the above settings, I was under the impression that all postings
by non-members would be automatically rejected, and only postings by
list-members would be displayed to the administrator for approval.

b). But recently we received a couple of unsolicited postings from
non-members. These postings by non-members were also LISTED FOR APPROVAL
along with the postings from members. This created some confusion.

c). I verified the mailing list's setting once again and I do not see any
obvious problems.

d). Is the above behavior is a Bug ?

I would appreciate a reply.

Thanks,
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Title: Weird stuff





I had something weird happen today. I set up a new list for a client today. They used it and the users are telling them that they are getting the same message 35-50 times. Do you have any idea why this might have happened?

Adrian Jones
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I get the following error message bouncing back when I try to post or
subscribe to a mailing list I set up on a Cobalt server. It is compliled to
use a local version of Perl 6 and is also compiled with a prefix.

It seems that wrapper is looking for /home/mailman/post in
/usr/local/majordomo and is obviously having problems. Why would it be doing
this and how do I fix it?


wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/local/majordomo/post failed: No such file
or directory
Did you define PERL correctly in the Makefile?
HOME is HOME=/usr/local/majordomo,
PATH is PATH=/bin:/usr/bin,
SHELL is SHELL=/bin/sh,
MAJORDOMO_CF is MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf
451 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post uknews"... Operating system error






 It seems that wrapper is looking for /home/mailman/post in
 /usr/local/majordomo and is obviously having problems. Why would it be doing
 this and how do I fix it?
 
 

See README.SENDMAIL:

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% ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper

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simultaneously (i.e. in the process of migrating from MD to MM :),
then you might have a small problem because Majordomo also uses a
program called `wrapper'.  In this case, Paul Tomblin suggests calling
the Mailman symlink `mailman_wrapper', and changing the alias entries
to call this instead of `wrapper'.  You might want to hack bin/newlist
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Hi,

I get this error almost every minute. If check the permissions I see
that config.db of all lists are owned by nobody ( web user ). Is it not
okey? Should I chown?

Your "cron" job on mail
/usr/local/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news

produced the following output:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 222, in ?
main()
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 203, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 140, in process_lists
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request

2001-03-29 Thread Richard B. Pyne

You must be running IP virtual domains rather than named virtual 
domains. 

With named vrtual domains, mailing lists are always created defaulted 
to the domain where Mailman was originally installed (the machine's 
default domain) and then I have to log in to the admin page and 
change them to the correct domain for the list. The welcome message 
to the list owner shows the default domain rather than the domain for 
the list.

There are also some minor issues on the list of lists for a domain. 
If the domain is set to foo.com and the user browses to 
http://www.foo.com/mailman/listinfo they will not see the list but 
will if they browse to http://foo.com/mailman/listinfo.

On 29 Mar 2001, at 8:46, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 "Richard B. Pyne" wrote:
 
  My second, and almost as important, request: Provide a way to
  specify the list domain name at the time of list creation instead of
  having to change it after creation. This causes confusion for users
  of virtual domains.
 
 Don't see why you have to do that.  I run mailman across three
 different vdomains and I never have to change the list domain name. 
 It automatically knows what its (correct) vdomain is when it gets
 created.
 
 AMK4

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Personal Trainer

2001-03-29 Thread Robert Brandtjen

I have an idea, lets all spam the spammers.

Better yet, rebuild your sendmail to use the blackhole list and get these
arses on the black hole list.

Rob


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request

2001-03-29 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

"Richard B. Pyne" wrote:

 You must be running IP virtual domains rather than named virtual
 domains.

Nope, they're named virtual domains.


 With named vrtual domains, mailing lists are always created defaulted
 to the domain where Mailman was originally installed (the machine's
 default domain)

I run named vdomains, to the same IP.  However, I do have a separate
installation for each vdomain (though they all run under ~mailman as
mailman.mailman)


 There are also some minor issues on the list of lists for a domain.
 If the domain is set to foo.com and the user browses to
 http://www.foo.com/mailman/listinfo they will not see the list but
 will if they browse to http://foo.com/mailman/listinfo.

That's not mailman's fault, that's your web server's problem.
Misconfigured.

AMK4

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Personal Trainer

2001-03-29 Thread Robert Brandtjen

on 3/29/01 12:42 PM, Aleksandra Witkowska at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Blackhole list?

When you use m4 to compile sendmail's config file, it has an option to check
the senders domain/ip against a list that is maintained against spammers -
who seem to have discovered the usefulness of this list.


Rob


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[Mailman-Users] Keeping quoted digests off the list

2001-03-29 Thread JC Dill

One of my majordomo lists also has a digest option.  I have the following 
taboo header settings in the majordomo config file for that list:

 # taboo_headers[regexp_array] (undef) resend
 # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the
 # message will be bounced for review.
taboo_headers END
/^Content-Type:.*multipart.*/i
/^Content-Type:.*html.*/i
/^Subject:.*listname-digest.*/i
END

This very effectively stops someone from clicking "reply" to their copy of 
the digest, quoting the whole thing, adding whatever they add, and sending 
the whole thing off for distribution to the whole list.  Before their post 
is redistributed to the list, they must change the subject line, and if 
they remember to change the subject line my experience is that they will 
also remember to quote only the part that needs quoting, and to send their 
reply to the right address, etc.  Bingo, no more entire digests being 
quoted and sent back out to all the list subscribers.

(Also, no HTML or attachments will be allowed either, per the content-type 
filters, but that's a topic for another post.)

If desired, one can also add a taboo_body setting and match for the digest 
header text that also should never be quoted back in a properly trimmed 
reply (see example below).  That would catch the rare case (which hasn't 
occurred on my list yet, in over two years that I've been managing the 
list, with hundreds of subscribers and hundreds of posts a month) where the 
subject was changed, but the digest body was not properly trimmed when quoted.

Yes, this sort of content filtering causes occasional posts that were 
intended to be sent to the list to go to the moderator for approval, and 
delays their distribution to the list.  But all of those posts were sent in 
violation of the list rules (one of which is "change the subject line in 
your reply to the list, to the subject of the post in the digest you are 
replying to).  My position is that when a subscriber doesn't follow the 
list submission rules, (as outlined at the top of every digest they 
receive, in the fronter material for digests on my lists), they shouldn't 
complain that their post didn't immediately get redistributed to the list.

So...

Question #1

Is this possible with mailman?  Before I move my majordomo list to a new 
server with new mailing list software (mailman is the software I'm 
considering, obviously), it is a requirement that I can configure that 
software to do the same things I can currently easily do with majordomo.  I 
don't want to waste my time trying to futz around with installing and 
configuring mailman before I learn that it won't let me do some of the 
critical things I need it to do.

Question #2

(wait for it...)  If it's possible with mailman, can it please be done to 
THIS LIST?

observation
You would think that someone who writes mailing list software would want to 
eagerly demonstrate how many things their software can easily do.  One 
effective way would be to configure their software to do those very things 
on their own lists
/observation

jc




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Re: [Mailman-Users] cron error : gate_news, permission denied

2001-03-29 Thread Steve Pirk

Unless you are using the "gateway to news" functions in mailman,
this cron entry can be commented out or removed. Not sure why you
are getting the error, but commenting out the cron entry is a 
quick fix :-)

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Murat Balkas wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I get this error almost every minute. If check the permissions I see
 that config.db of all lists are owned by nobody ( web user ). Is it not
 okey? Should I chown?
 
 Your "cron" job on mail
 /usr/local/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news
 
 produced the following output:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 222, in ?
 main()
   File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 203, in main
 process_lists(lock)
   File "/export/home/mailman//cron/gate_news", line 140, in process_lists
 mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
   File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
 self.Load()
   File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
 dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
   File "/export/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
 fp = open(dbfile)
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/export/home/mailman/lists/test1/config.db'
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Personal Trainer

2001-03-29 Thread alex wetmore

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Phydeaux wrote:
 The spam is *quite* easy for a human to detect. I hereby volunteer for
 duty if called

In the past couple of weeks there have been many more messages 
complaining about the spam then spam itself...

alex


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Personal Trainer

2001-03-29 Thread chuq von rospach


On Thursday, March 29, 2001, at 11:41  AM, alex wetmore wrote:

 In the past couple of weeks there have been many more messages
 complaining about the spam then spam itself...


yup. and until the spam goes away, that'll continue, too. Which is 
another reason to make the spam go away -- because it's not only noise 
in the system, it's noise that breeds other noise. And that other noise 
breeds discussions like this, where we're having a meta-argument about 
the noise complaining about the noise All of which does nothing 
useful except keep people from talking about what the list is about.


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[Mailman-Users] Automatic Reject

2001-03-29 Thread dansan

Dear gurus :)

Hey, I've been trying to convince the ppl at work that mailman would
be an awesome solution... just came across an "simple"? issue.  Is
there anyway to automatically reject mail coming from a specific
address (or domain?) without having to bother the list administrator
with it?

Thanks for any help...

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[Mailman-Users] Mailan return address problem

2001-03-29 Thread David Swanger


I installed Mailman on a Sun Sparc server, Solaris 2.8.
The name of the server is:  
 
   aulist.duc.auburn.edu

So far it seems to work fine, EXCEPT...

I created a mailing list named test.  When I subscribed myself
to the test mailing list, I received a confirmation message.
The return address from this message was not correct, it
was:

   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
It should have been: 

   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the following variable set for DEFAULT_HOST_NAME:

Defaults.py:DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'aulist'
mm_cfg.py:DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'aulist.duc.auburn.edu'


How can I fix this?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and I18N?

2001-03-29 Thread Leif Neland

 Is Mailman I18Ned? Has French localization been written yet? The webpage does 
 not mention this: I have looked in the FAQ. I have also looked at the 
 features list and the to-do list... And in my mind, I18N belongs in one of 
 those two places. :-)
 
Feature request: The language should be selectable per mailing list.
I've got local Danish lists as well as international English lists.

I've translated the html for the Danish lists, but I can't have both Danish and 
English versions of the py's

Leif

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Personal Trainer

2001-03-29 Thread JC Dill

On 11:03 AM 3/29/01, Phydeaux wrote:

 The spam is *quite* easy for a human to detect. I hereby volunteer for
 duty if called

jc raises hand

ObAOL

Me to!

/ObAOL

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic Reject

2001-03-29 Thread Steve Pirk

I do not believe that mailman can do this by itself, but it
can be easily managed in sendmail. Read up on spam fitering
(spammers db file).

Steve
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, dansan wrote:

 Dear gurus :)
 
 Hey, I've been trying to convince the ppl at work that mailman would
 be an awesome solution... just came across an "simple"? issue.  Is
 there anyway to automatically reject mail coming from a specific
 address (or domain?) without having to bother the list administrator
 with it?
 
 Thanks for any help...
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and I18N?

2001-03-29 Thread Juan Carlos Rey Anaya

Jrme Loisel wrote:
 
 Is Mailman I18Ned?
Yes

 Has French localization been written yet?
No.
As I know...

 Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!

Take a glance at http://joker.sci.uma.es/mailman/listinfo
and
ftp://ftp.uma.es/pub/mailman

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