Re: [Mailman-Users] threaded view on archive does not work

2001-11-02 Thread Lucas Hofman

On Thursday 01 November 2001 10:00, J C Lawrence wrote:

  Based on a little experiment it seem that mail (unix mail
  command), kmail, and outlook express do not.

 I can't comment on Outlook.  The other's you listed do generate
 correct In-Reply-To: headers.

Are you sure? Look at the following reply generated by replying to a mail 
send by a local user:
---
From root  Fri Nov  2 10:27:14 2001
Return-Path: root
Received: (from root@localhost)
by tanya.oslo.seres.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11389;
Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:27:14 +0100
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:27:14 +0100
From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: test
 
reply
which headers are added?
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No In-Reply-To: header here. The mail client on this linux box is mail (good 
old mail, which does not honour the -V or --version option)

By the way, your messages do not thread in the mailman user maillist archive. 
Which MUA are you using?

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[Mailman-Users] mailman error

2001-11-02 Thread Madan Rai

hi
can you please help me out to get rid of this problem..

thx
Madan
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RE: [Mailman-Users] qrunner keeps locking cron

2001-11-02 Thread Greg Schnippel


Thanks, Jon. I checked the file sizes in the archive
directory but they seem to be rather insignificant. The
list that is causing the problems has 6000+ users 
but they only mail 2-3 times a month. 

Do you think the size of the list is what is causing
qrunner and then cron to lock up? I'm sure mailman
can handle large lists and it has always been able
to handle this list before.. Not sure why it would 
freeze when processing it now

Thanks,

Greg Schnippel

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:31 PM
 To: Greg Schnippel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner keeps locking cron
 
 
 Are your volumes filing up (do a df)?  How big are your 
 archives?  If they
 have grown very large, then it will take awhile to put each 
 new message into
 the archive.  This can slow you down quite a bit.
 
 Jon Carnes
 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Schnippel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:00 PM
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] qrunner keeps locking cron
 
 
 
  I've been having a lot of trouble with mailman and
  cron recently and I'm wondering if anyone else has
  experienced this or has any ideas..?
 
  We have several large lists on our server and they
  have run without problem for a couple of years now.
  However, recently it seems that qrunner is locking
  up when it tries to process the queue and in the
  process, it stalls the cron daemon as well.
 
  The only thing we have been able to do is monitor
  cron, detect when its not working, kill and restart
  the cron process, and then manually run the mailman
  qrunner program. Definitely not optimal.
 
  There are no errors being reported in either the mailman
  error logs or in the smtp logs.. ??
 
  Anyone had any problems with qrunner or cron with
  mailman?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Greg Schnippel
 
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[Mailman-Users] List recieves, but doesn't send...

2001-11-02 Thread Tim Stoop

Hi people,

I just installed Mailman 2.0.6 on Linux Debian. No, not the .deb, I compiled 
the source myself. No trouble here. When I created a test-list, I got nice 
messages saying I was list owner and a welcome-message after I registered 
myself as user. But, when I send mail to the list, I just isn't send... 
$prefix/logs/smtp en error are both empty, syslog contains lines like:
Nov  2 16:34:45 Obelisk postfix/local[906]: 1FBF41E: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
(|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post test)
I get no return message, but the messages aren't sent out. What is wrong 
here? I use Postfix, btw.

I used the mailman.deb before and it worked without trouble. But as I was 
reinstalling my server, I wanted the newest version. Only this just doesn't 
seem to work?

Any ideas?

Kind regards,
Tim Stoop

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-02 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thanks James,

That was it (the long-ish answer)...


Thanks a million.

cheers,

J.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, James Watson
wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 08:30:45PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
  OK, then my question remains this:
  
  WHY AREN'T MY LISTS SHOWING UP?... I've set the permission on the
  privacy page for each of the 4 lists on our server, yet they're not
  showing up when I run http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo
  
  They are meant to be advertised lists yet they're not showing up.
 
 Short answer: set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=0 in mm_cfg.py.
 
 Long answer:
 If you go to: http://mysql.org/mailman/listinfo you can see them.  The list
 hostname is set to mysql.org instead of www.mysql.org.  Changing the list
 hostname should fix it.
 
 Mailman includes some virtual hosting features that will limit
 the list of lists to those for the current virtual host.  It does
 this by matching the list hostname with the http hostname.  However,
 this is a case-sensitive match, so if you change the list hostname to
 www.mysql.org, then http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo will work,
 but http://www.MySQL.org/mailman/listinfo will not. You can avoid this
 problem by setting VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=0 in mm_cfg.py. This will cause
 Mailman to advertise all public lists, regardless of the http hostname.
 
 -James
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List recieves, but doesn't send...

2001-11-02 Thread Greg Ward

On 02 November 2001, Tim Stoop said:
 I just installed Mailman 2.0.6 on Linux Debian. No, not the .deb, I compiled 
 the source myself. No trouble here. When I created a test-list, I got nice 
 messages saying I was list owner and a welcome-message after I registered 
 myself as user. But, when I send mail to the list, I just isn't send... 

Did you setup the Mailman cron jobs?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Forwarding loop?

2001-11-02 Thread Mike Avery

On 31 Oct 2001 at 16:54, Mike Avery wrote:

 I've been getting the following error message every time 
 I send a message to a list.  A number of other users have 
 commented that they are getting the same message when 
 they send a message to the list.  The message subject is 
 Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender.

Well, that got resolved.  Someone had misconfigured 
their copy of Lookout! and was sending every message 
they received back to the list as a return receipt.  
Lookout! hadn't changed the headers, so it looked like 
the original sender was re-posting the message.  Postfix 
stopped the duplicate message and sent the confusing 
error message.

Looking at the Postfix log, and a raw view of the error 
message showed me which SMTP server the message 
was coming through.  I used the find_member command 
and lucked out - only one (former) subscriber from that 
domain.

Mike
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Re: [Mailman-Users] threaded view on archive does not work

2001-11-02 Thread J C Lawrence

On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100 
Lucas Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By the way, your messages do not thread in the mailman user
 maillist archive. Which MUA are you using?

exmh.  Quoting the headers from this very message:

  In-Reply-To: Message from Lucas Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 of Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  References:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

You may note that it inserts the correct headers.However there
are no such headers in the message from you I'm replying to.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Vacation email loop

2001-11-02 Thread Greg Ward

On 02 November 2001, Clark Cooper said:
 I had a situation where a user on one of my lists had the vacation utility
 turned on and a posting to the list resulted in a looped email because the
 vacation email response was then posted and on and on.  The reply-to posts
 option has been set to the list and I would like to keep this
 setting.

I believe that stupid autoresponders is one of the canonical reasons
why reply-to the list is Considered Harmful.  IOW, if you insist on
having reply-to the list, you will probably have to live with this
annoyance.

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[Mailman-Users] mass change to list

2001-11-02 Thread leanne lai


Hi,

I would like to increase the maximum length of the message body of _all_ my 
lists, is there a way to mass change all the lists?

Thanks


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Fw: [Mailman-Users] Disable posting of a specific user

2001-11-02 Thread Don Daniels


- Original Message - 
From: Rodolfo Pilas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Disable posting of a specific user


 Is there are any way to dislable user posting into a list?
 
 I wish to have some users that can read but not posting.  
 
 It is the same for me that the possible post may be send to the admin to
 be approved, for this reason I ask:
 
 It is possible to moderate the posting of a specific user?
 
  
 (I have Mailman 2.1a2)
 

Hey Rodolfo,
  I'm using 2.06 and under the PRIVACY section there is a line 
which reads:
  Addresses whose postings are always held for approval.
end of quote

I recall another (different section) which also had the option of whether or not to 
notify subscribers that their posts were being held for approval.

 Best  Don



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[Mailman-Users] List user management problems

2001-11-02 Thread Robert Benites

I am running Mailman 2.0.6 on a Compaq Tru64 UNIX 5.1 system.

I reviewd the open bugs at SourceForge and didn't see a problem such
as this described there. I tried posting this using the bug reporting
mechanism at SourceForge, but when I tried to just use my e-mail
address, my browser crashed. I thought I'd post it here to to see if
someone else had seen a problems such as this.

To begin, I created a list, ms-adm, which seemed to go fine.

When I tried to add a list of users using the adminstrator's
membership management page, while the users were subscribed, eg. list
admins received a subscription notification mail message with the
correct subscriber addresses, and the users show up as members using
the list_members command, they never got a welcome message with their
password.

This problem seems to be intermittent, I added two users at the outset
on the Membership Management page and they got a welcome message with
their password, but when I entered a larger group (17 users) they
seemed to be added, but never got the welcome message.

In addition, when I do a dumpdb, I see entries foreach of this second
group of users which look like:

'bounce_info': {   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.71, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.17, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.36, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.06, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.01, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.23, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.59, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.91, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [   1004707923.44,
 2.0,
 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.28, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [   1004707864.32,
  2.0,
  2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.69, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707868.14, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707923.83, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707867.72, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [1004707922.52, 2.0, 2.0],
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': [   1004707896.47,
  2.0,
  2.0]},

One of the users I added was [EMAIL PROTECTED], another was
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, during list setup, I never changed any of the bounce options.

If these users go to the listinfo page enter their address, eg.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for instance, and click edit options they see
[EMAIL PROTECTED], rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is the _only_ list I'm having problems with.

It seems I should only have the list administrators in the bounce_info
variables, or is that an incorrect assumption? How can I fix the
database? I am unsure of the python syntax.

Any suggestions? 

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Reply-To ignored

2001-11-02 Thread Scott Armstrong



I just discovered somewhat odd behavior in 
mailman-2.0.7. When sending to the list, it only used my "From" address and 
failed to honor the "Reply-To" header. While I don't have a problem with it 
using "From" to determine whether a posting should be held for a moderated list, 
I was wondering why the "Reply-To" wasn't used when the message was actually 
sent out. Is there some configuration tweak I can use to get it to honor that 
header?

Scott


Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman wrapper not sending out mail

2001-11-02 Thread Michelle Brownsworth

Dan Mick inquires:

You don't say anything about setting up cron.  Is that because you
haven't?


DOH!  The crontab I originally created got pooched somehow.  It had 
some garbage chars in it.  I redid it and now Mailman is sending out 
to beat the band.  Good call, Dan.  Thanks much!

.\\ichelle



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[Mailman-Users] List recieves, but doesn't send...

2001-11-02 Thread Tim Stoop

Hi people,

I just installed Mailman 2.0.6 on Linux Debian. No, not the .deb, I compiled 
the source myself. No trouble here. When I created a test-list, I got nice 
messages saying I was list owner and a welcome-message after I registered 
myself as user. But, when I send mail to the list, I just isn't send... 
$prefix/logs/smtp en error are both empty, syslog contains lines like:
Nov  2 16:34:45 Obelisk postfix/local[906]: 1FBF41E: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
(|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post test)
I get no return message, but the messages aren't sent out. What is wrong 
here? I use Postfix, btw.

I used the mailman.deb before and it worked without trouble. But as I was 
reinstalling my server, I wanted the newest version. Only this just doesn't 
seem to work?

Any ideas?

Kind regards,
Tim Stoop

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[Mailman-Users] Q

2001-11-02 Thread Batu Eerdun

I use windows 2000, may I set up mailing list?
it looks like tuning on the Uinx machine, right?
batu

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[Mailman-Users] gate_news raising NNTPProtocolError exceptions

2001-11-02 Thread Stuart Bishop

Hi.

I'm trying to setup an email feed of a couple of large Usenet news 
groups.
Articles seem to be flowing happily, although I'm getting a dozen or
so exceptions each day. It may be related to the number of aricles being
retrieved, as I get these exceptions everytime gate_news is run until
I perform a catchup on the news group. I was also getting the exceptions
much more often until I started running gate_news every 60 seconds 
instead
of once every five minutes.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

My client is a NetBSD box running Python 2.1.1 and Mailman 2.0.6.
The upstream news server is a DNews server, or a NetCache (which talks
to the same DNews server) - same problem with both.

On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 06:14  PM, Cron Daemon wrote:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
 main()
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
 process_lists(lock)
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 179, in process_lists
 poll_newsgroup(mlist, conn, start, last+1, glock)
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 104, in poll_newsgroup
 body = conn.body(`num`)[3]
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 346, in body
 return self.artcmd('BODY ' + id)
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 322, in artcmd
 resp, list = self.longcmd(line)
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 215, in 
 longcmd
 return self.getlongresp()
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 194, in 
 getlongresp
 resp = self.getresp()
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 188, in 
 getresp
 raise NNTPProtocolError(resp)
 Mailman.pythonlib.nntplib.NNTPProtocolError: .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List recieves, but doesn't send...

2001-11-02 Thread Jon Carnes

Did you setup your crontab entries?

su to the mailman user and check out crontab -e.  If you have setup the
crontab entries (a full page worth including comments), then run the qrunner
script (as seen in crontab) by hand, and see what it says.

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Tim Stoop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] List recieves, but doesn't send...


 Hi people,

 I just installed Mailman 2.0.6 on Linux Debian. No, not the .deb, I
compiled
 the source myself. No trouble here. When I created a test-list, I got nice
 messages saying I was list owner and a welcome-message after I registered
 myself as user. But, when I send mail to the list, I just isn't send...
 $prefix/logs/smtp en error are both empty, syslog contains lines like:
 Nov  2 16:34:45 Obelisk postfix/local[906]: 1FBF41E:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent
 (|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post test)
 I get no return message, but the messages aren't sent out. What is wrong
 here? I use Postfix, btw.

 I used the mailman.deb before and it worked without trouble. But as I was
 reinstalling my server, I wanted the newest version. Only this just
doesn't
 seem to work?

 Any ideas?

 Kind regards,
 Tim Stoop

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-02 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


 JCL == J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JCL Urk.

Indeed!

Looks like Mozilla flattens the hostname case but Lynx does not
(convenient for testing! :).

JCL This is bad, a bug, and needs to be fixed for 2.1.

Fixed it is.  I'll simply fold to lowercase the hostname sucked out of
the cgi environment before doing the checks.

Thanks for forwarding this to me.
-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-02 Thread J C Lawrence

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:36:37 -0500 
James Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:23:28AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:

 Hostnames are explicitly case insensitive.  Mailman flattens the
 strings prior to comparison.  Example:
 
   https://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/
   https://WwW.Kanga.Nu/lists/listinfo/

 Your browser must do the flattening.  With Mozilla, the above two
 urls both work for me.  However, with Netscape 4.77, I get the no
 advertised lists message when using the second url.

Urk.

This is bad, a bug, and needs to be fixed for 2.1.

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