[Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

[marina]

We are running a list using Mailman 2, where most of the members are 
totally computer illiterate, and cannot be bothered understanding why 
or how to change their email settings.

As a result, this list digests include huge portions of HTML coding - 
which is perceived as extremely annoying by several users (including 
some who choose to use HTML mail, of course).

Is there a way to tell Mailman to strip the HTML portions? Please 
consider we have no access to the source code.

Thanks in advance,

marina


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[Mailman-Users] domain isn't in my list of rcpthosts

[Ron Parker]

Hello,

Installed mailman 2.0.8 on Linux 7.2 system running qmail+vpopmail.
Install appeared to work.  Created list "vsb".  I can access list admin.
However, when a user tries to subscribe to list from web page, the user
doesn't get an e-mail back.

Looking at the logs, I see the following (mail list is vsb on
host4.scbbs.com, user trying to subscribe is [EMAIL PROTECTED]):

Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.465755 20388 > 220
host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.474061 20388 < ehlo
localhost.localdomain?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.474962 20388 >
250-host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.475458 20388 > 250-PIPELINING?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.475921 20388 > 250 8BITMIME?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.502945 20388 < mail
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.503854 20388 > 250 ok?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.556793 20388 < rcpt
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.557763 20388 > 553 sorry, that
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.561415 20388 < rset?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.562476 20388 > 250 flushed?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.585977 20388 < quit?

I don't know what I've done, configuration-wise, which is making the
system look for matching domain names in rcpthosts before sending out
mail.  Here are the only config changes I've made to mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'host4.scbbs.com'
# DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash!
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://host4.scbbs.com/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/pipermail'
PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private'

HOME_PAGE = 'index.html'
MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail'

Any suggestions, please?

Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[J C Lawrence]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:55:53 -0800 
John Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [root@shot qfiles]# qmail-qstat 
> messages in queue: 1376 
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Nothing alarming there.  Those are just messages for MXes which are
down or slow.  I wouldn't sweat or notice until it averages at least
10 times that large.

> [root@shot qfiles]# pwd
> /home/mailman/qfiles
> [root@shot qfiles]# ls
> 4c18e5a2ab7ade0b96e88576aa67dc27165aa8a2.db
> 56f8e0e25ed4226c680e5fc0d7ff5cb3061d7361.msg
> 4c18e5a2ab7ade0b96e88576aa67dc27165aa8a2.msg
> d4fb7cde7f1ba8f04955a903c9e5eacb5e72b59e.db
> 56f8e0e25ed4226c680e5fc0d7ff5cb3061d7361.db
> d4fb7cde7f1ba8f04955a903c9e5eacb5e72b59e.msg
> [root@shot qfiles]#

These are just messages which qrunner is waiting to process, either
inbound bounces or commands, or outbound list mail.  Nothing unusual
there.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail?qmail?or postfix

[J C Lawrence]

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:19:37 +0800 
doug  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> should I have to change mail server from sendmail to postfix or
> qmail?  compare postfix with qmail,which one would fit working
> with mailman?  thanks:)

Mailman is MTA agnostic.  There are good reasons to use MTAs other
than Sendmail, mostly for performance reasons (altho this has
significantly improved with recent sendmail releases).  As for which
to choose, that depends on your preferences, local SysAdm talent,
mail loads, and other needs.  

The FAQ has some good data on this area.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman refusing to send remote emails.

[J C Lawrence]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:48:09 -0600 (CST) 
C Bensend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Mailman doesn't send email to any external addresses, including
> list posts, welcome messages, etc

While this likely doesn't help, this is almost guaranteed not to be
a Mailman problem, but is instead a QMail config problem.  For some
reason wither QMail doesn like mail arriving on the localhost
interface (test with a hand-driven telnet session delivering mail to
127.0.0.1), or there's something about the source address it doesn't
like (sniff the packet stream and see *exactly what's being sent and
if anything is even mildly curious).  And no, sorry, I don't know
what or even possibly why: I see little reason to put up with DJB
and so prefer other MTAs.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Dan Mick]

> Qmail, Mailman.  I have 1376 mails in the queue, but Mailman's /qfiles
> directory only has about 4 messages in it, and they are being sent out
> pretty regularly.  So, I am assuming that this is a non-deliverable or
> long-wait-deliverable problem.

It's a Qmail issue at least, if not a normal "bunch of braindead
MX/DNS hosts out there" issue.  You can maybe pare the queue down by
hand, but mostly just leave it alone is the right answer; things will
retry until they time out.



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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[John Jones]

Okay, here is a question...

Qmail, Mailman.  I have 1376 mails in the queue, but Mailman's /qfiles
directory only has about 4 messages in it, and they are being sent out
pretty regularly.  So, I am assuming that this is a non-deliverable or
long-wait-deliverable problem.

What kind of optimization or changes could/should be made to help this
along?  Lots of subscribers, oh yes; quite a few lists, you bet.  Since I am
just now getting introduced to this network and learning it (nice and HUGE),
I am not intimate with the configurations or how it might have been hacked
for customization.  I am learning it as fast as I can, but with 15 other
fires burning right now...


[root@shot qfiles]# qmail-qstat
messages in queue: 1376
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

[root@shot qfiles]# pwd
/home/mailman/qfiles
[root@shot qfiles]# ls
4c18e5a2ab7ade0b96e88576aa67dc27165aa8a2.db
56f8e0e25ed4226c680e5fc0d7ff5cb3061d7361.msg
4c18e5a2ab7ade0b96e88576aa67dc27165aa8a2.msg
d4fb7cde7f1ba8f04955a903c9e5eacb5e72b59e.db
56f8e0e25ed4226c680e5fc0d7ff5cb3061d7361.db
d4fb7cde7f1ba8f04955a903c9e5eacb5e72b59e.msg
[root@shot qfiles]#





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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails

[Dan Mick]

What do you mean "if I send mail to a list member"?  Do you mean
"if I send mail to the list", or what you said?

> yes i do.
> 
> i found the default crontab file and it is exactly as
> the source.
> 
> the aliases file is perfect, i newaliases'd it and it
> works perfectly.
> 
> 
> --- Richard Idalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Do you have
> > 
> > a) the crons for mailman set?
> > b) the aliases for your lists set up in you alias
> > file (assuming you're
> > running sendmail or postfix, prolly sendmail  with
> > red hat.)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Richard Idalski
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > pelicancomputers
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails
> > 
> > 
> > help. i'm running mailman on redhat with apache...
> > 
> > i can send mail to and from the server to and from
> > the
> > internet...
> > 
> > if i send mail to a list member, it never gets
> > there.
> > 
> > perms check out fine, db's check out fine...
> > 
> > what else can be wrong?
> > 
> > thanks for your help.
> > 
> > rf
> > 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] About Mailman

[Dan Mick]

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

just posted this FAQ yesterday.

> Hello,
> 
> Is there a way to retrieve an administrative password from a mailing list?
> 
> I lost it, can't remember it at all.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michel Côté


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[Mailman-Users] sendmail?qmail?or postfix

[doug]

hello:
  I've build a mailling list (Redhat + sendmail + mailman).
  but  consinder the security , should I have to change
  mail server from sendmail to postfix or qmail?
  compare postfix with qmail,which one would fit working with mailman?
  thanks:)

  Doug


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman refusing to send remote emails.

[C. Bensend]

In reference to:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-December/015863.html

(sorry if it wrapped)

Hey folks!

I sent the above query to the list on Dec 2nd, and
have not received any related replies.  I'm still fighting
the problem, and was hoping someone could donate a few
spare brain cycles.  :)

The problem:

* Mailman doesn't send email to any external
  addresses, including list posts, welcome
  messages, etc

The diagnosis:

* I'm running QMail 1.03, and mail (both locally
  delivered and remotely delivered) works
  perfectly
* Mailing lists using .qmail files work perfectly,
  delivering to remote and local users
* I have copied the Defaults.py over to mm_cfg.py,
  and editted desired options locally
* I followed (I believe perfectly) the README.QMAIL
  file
* QMail's logs show all posts being delivered
  successfully to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* .qmail-listname contains:

|preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post listname

* The other .qmail files:

.qmail-listname-admin
|preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner

.qmail-listname-owner
|preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner

.qmail-listname-request
|preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd

.qmail-default
|/usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/bin/qmail-to-mailman.py

If anyone that's running Mailman with QMail out there could
give me a hand, it'd be mightily appreciated.  :)  If you'd
like to cut down on the amount of traffic to the list, please
contact me directly and I can summarize when I've got this
fixed.

Benny


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dear Python

[Greg Ward]

On 11 December 2001, adam cole said:
> I am a Hostway user trying to set up a newsletter for my site,
> www.feldenkraisinfo.com.  I've followed all of hostway's directions for
> setting up Mailman as a newsletter.

Have you tried asking Hostway's support staff for help?  Presumably
you're paying them, so they should be your first line of support.

> My problem is I've never done this before, and I really have no idea how to
> get started.  I don't understand the basics.  I want to create a newsletter
> and send it to my subscriber list automatically.  So, first, where do I
> create the newsletter?

That's specific to Hostway's way of doing things.  You'll have to ask them.

> What are my options?

Once you have created the list, you need to find your way to its
administrative interface.  That's where you find out what all your
options are.  There are a lot of them, and most of them won't make sense
if you don't have a solid understanding of Internet email and mailing
list management.  You'll learn.

> Second, how do I get the ball
> rolling and have Mailman send it out?

Once the list is setup, you send mail to the list address.  It's pretty
simple.

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Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

[Jerry Stratton]

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be
>possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed
>when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact
>them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists
>that cover our area.

There is an option under "General Options" that sends notification of
subscribe and unsubscribe requests to the administrator.

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Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

[Ken Manheimer]

Martin Skjoldebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[> > I'm inferring that Martin Skjoldebrand originally wrote:]

> >> We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman.  Our info
> >> dept wants a list of press release people who are not admitted to
> >> leave the list by using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying
> >> the list admin).

> >Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented.  I would not
> >want some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup
> >option that allowed "unleavable lists", in any way, shape or form.
> >Yes, even if -you- required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree
> >to it; other follow-on companies/scams may not.

> I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be
> possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed
> when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact
> them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists
> that cover our area.

The thing to do then is to implement something that provides
notification of unsubscriptions **but does not impede the
unsubscriptions in any way**.

(It's not possible to prevent abuse of the software to lock in
subscriptions, but i can think of no reason for a successful mlm to
package such functionality.  I suspect that any whic does should be
shunned!

My reasoning here is obnoxiously arrogant, and may be unjustifiable.
Nonetheless:

People experienced enough to implement the abuse themselves should be
experienced enough to figure out why they shouldn't do so, and come up
with better alternatives, and people *lacking* the experience (and/or wit)
to figure those things out shouldn't be helped to make the mistake...)

Ken Manheimer
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[Mailman-Users] recent mailman security problem - fixed in 2.1prerelease?

[Tom Perrine]

Is the security problem that prompted the 2.0.8 mailman release
applicable to the 2.1 prerelease versions?

I've been running one of the 2.1 alphas, do I need to
upgrade/sidegrade?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP

[pelicancomputers]

could you elaborate on your comment for me...

my httpd daemons run as nobody...
my sendmail runs as root...

right now my mailman is dead and i'm wondering if it's
a permissions problem...although check_perms runs
fine, and sendmail to and from the internet works
perfectly...just not to any of my lists

any ideas??

thanks.



--- Dan Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, or if what Shaun means is "mailman is
> installed, now I just need to move
> the lists", copy over lists/ and archives/ and you
> should be mostly
> there.  Run bin/check_perms after, and if the home
> dir of mailman has
> changed, use bin/move_list to update the list home
> path.  That should
> be about it.
> 
> Jon Carnes wrote:
> > 
> > restore the Mailman home directory from backup. 
> If your install is
> > identical then that will get you most of the way
> there.  The key things to
> > watch out for is the gid that the Mail server runs
> as, and the gid that your
> > Web-server (or cgi scripts) run as.  Next step is
> to add the CGI info into
> > your webserver's config file so that it knows how
> to find mailman's cgi
> > scripts.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Shaun Erickson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:26 PM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help
> needed ASAP
> > 
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > My list server died 2 days ago and I'm trying to
> get a new one up and
> > > running before all the mail queueing up around
> the world starts
> > > bouncing.
> > >
> > > I have set up a new system, but it has no lists
> at present. It's at the
> > > stage where one would start creating the lists.
> > >
> > > Exactly what do I need to restore to simply have
> all my old lists and
> > > their archives back? I'm looking to (hopefully)
> drop a directory or two
> > > into place and have everything all back and
> running ... is this
> > > possible?
> > >
> > > Thanks, in advance, for your kind assistance.
> > >
> > > -ste
> > > --
> > >  Office: (908) 582-7629   Cell: (908) 672-6456  
> Pager: (888) 290-2057
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails

[pelicancomputers]

yes i do.

i found the default crontab file and it is exactly as
the source.

the aliases file is perfect, i newaliases'd it and it
works perfectly.


--- Richard Idalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Do you have
> 
>   a) the crons for mailman set?
>   b) the aliases for your lists set up in you alias
> file (assuming you're
> running sendmail or postfix, prolly sendmail  with
> red hat.)
> 
> 
> 
>   -Richard Idalski
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> pelicancomputers
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails
> 
> 
> help. i'm running mailman on redhat with apache...
> 
> i can send mail to and from the server to and from
> the
> internet...
> 
> if i send mail to a list member, it never gets
> there.
> 
> perms check out fine, db's check out fine...
> 
> what else can be wrong?
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> rf
> 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails

[Richard Idalski]

 Do you have

a) the crons for mailman set?
b) the aliases for your lists set up in you alias file (assuming you're
running sendmail or postfix, prolly sendmail  with red hat.)



-Richard Idalski

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pelicancomputers
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails


help. i'm running mailman on redhat with apache...

i can send mail to and from the server to and from the
internet...

if i send mail to a list member, it never gets there.

perms check out fine, db's check out fine...

what else can be wrong?

thanks for your help.

rf

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[Mailman-Users] mailman daemons?

[pelicancomputers]

how does mailman run? as a daemon? as a call?

how do i know when mail is sent to a list that mailman
is even awake to be aware of it in the first place?

thank you, your help is very much appreciated.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP

[Dan Mick]

Well, or if what Shaun means is "mailman is installed, now I just need to move
the lists", copy over lists/ and archives/ and you should be mostly
there.  Run bin/check_perms after, and if the home dir of mailman has
changed, use bin/move_list to update the list home path.  That should
be about it.

Jon Carnes wrote:
> 
> restore the Mailman home directory from backup.  If your install is
> identical then that will get you most of the way there.  The key things to
> watch out for is the gid that the Mail server runs as, and the gid that your
> Web-server (or cgi scripts) run as.  Next step is to add the CGI info into
> your webserver's config file so that it knows how to find mailman's cgi
> scripts.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shaun Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:26 PM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > My list server died 2 days ago and I'm trying to get a new one up and
> > running before all the mail queueing up around the world starts
> > bouncing.
> >
> > I have set up a new system, but it has no lists at present. It's at the
> > stage where one would start creating the lists.
> >
> > Exactly what do I need to restore to simply have all my old lists and
> > their archives back? I'm looking to (hopefully) drop a directory or two
> > into place and have everything all back and running ... is this
> > possible?
> >
> > Thanks, in advance, for your kind assistance.
> >
> > -ste
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Secure server

[Dan Mick]

alex wetmore wrote:
> 
> On 12 Dec 2001, Rodolfo Pilas wrote:
> > Is there are any way to have the passoword authentication under a secure
> > server (https) ??
> >
> > Can you give me some tip?
> 
> Sure, you can configure apache-ssl to do this.
> 
> What would be the point though?  The list still sends out plaintext
> passwords, and the passwords exist on disk in plaintext.  The list
> member passwords are not meant to be secure.

Not the list or site passwords, though.

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[Mailman-Users] Unrecognized bounce message

[Pavel Roskin]

Hello!

I'm administering a list using Mailman 2.0.6.  I'm sorry I cannot upgrade 
it to the latest version (I have no access), but I don't see any changes 
related to bounce detection in the NEWS for 2.0.7 and 2.0.8.

The attached message was forwarded to the administrator instead of being 
detected as bounced e-mail.

Despite the Polish beginning it has the address in angle brackets and
mentions "quota".  It comes from MAILER-DAEMON.  It also quotes the
original message and contains its message-id.

Please use your judgement whether another rule based on the attached
message should be added or not.  Add it only if you think it won't result
in false positives.

Another related idea - maybe Mailman should add the destination address to
a special header (e.g. X-Mailman-Recent-To or standard Envelope-to) to
detect more reliably whose mail bounces?  For additional reliability (to
avoid rewriting the address) the address could be encrypted or represented
by a number from the database.

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serwer pocztowy nie bedzie staral sie wyslac jej ponownie.
Dokladna przyczyna niedoreczenia listu znajduje sie ponizej.
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Hi, Fr=E9d=E9ric!

> There's welcome.msg and welcome2.msg. I probably receive the
> latter because I don't have reverse DNS.

First of all, ftp.gnome.org resolves to 2 different ip addresses: =20
130.239.18.137 (tutankhamon.acc.umu.se) and 130.239.18.173
(napoleon.acc.umu.se)

Only welcome.msg mentions "CodeFactory AB".  It also has some ANSI=20
sequences to highlight the big "ACE" banner.

I only have addresses with reverse DNS and I always get welcome.msg.  The=
=20
greeting in Swedish is apparently not a port of either welcome.msg or=20
welcome2.msg.

You may want to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any problems.  It=
=20
makes no sence to discuss it between us.

> Anyway, I don't know why people from Brazil are always
> redirected to some Swedish server.

Well, because all IP addresses associated with ftp.gnome.org are hosted in
Sweden.  It's quite hard to make DNS reply differently dependent on the
one location of the client.  Akamai provides this service (I think so,
their site lacks any details).  But even the FTP server of t

Re: [Mailman-Users] [OT] open relay probes...

[Christopher Schulte]

At 09:15 AM 12/12/2001 -0800, Harold Paulson wrote:
>Jay,
>
>It is unlikely that it's related to mailman.  For what it's worth, even 
>Eric Allman says you shouldn't edit your .cf files directly:
>
> http://www.sendmail.net/interviews/interview001.shtml
>
>Always build your .cf from a .mc, and treat the .cf like a binary 
>file.  The FAQs at sendmail.org are pretty good.  This page:
>
> http://www.brettglass.com/spam.html
>
>has excellent information on locking sendmail down against spam and other 
>fun stuff.  It looks BSD specific, but it isn't really.
>
>That said, if you can switch to a modern MTA (Postfix, etc..), do so now.

This isn't a postfix group, but...

The main reasons (abbreviated) I switched from sendmail 8.11.x to postfix:

1) built in header/body checks that go off  regexp/pcre
2) human-understandable configuration files (no .mc/.cf madness)
3) performance that puts sendmail to shame
4) advanced UCE hooks
5) complete replacement for sendmail

After the switch, even more reasons that it was a good move:

1) great community support
2) code is maintained and actively developed/improved
3) MTA is extremely robust and reliable
4) updates are painless and error-free
5) I could go on

Did I mention that is works wonderfully with mailman? :-)  My mail list 
server was the first one to experiment with postfix.  The results were so 
good that I moved all other smtp servers over a month or two later.


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[Mailman-Users] Authorization failed ...

[Ian Crawford]

On a new installation, I get "Authentication failed" for both the correct list 
and site passwords.

How do you get a trace on what the problem really is ? 

~mailman/logs doesn't register anything,
/var/logs doesn't register anything.

Is there a command line method for checking passwords ?


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[Mailman-Users] About Mailman

[MEE GameMaster]

    Hello,
 
    Is there a way to retrieve an 
administrative password from a mailing list?
 
    I lost it, can't remember it at all.
 
    Thanks
 
    Michel Côté

[Mailman-Users] Dear Python

[adam cole]

I am a Hostway user trying to set up a newsletter for my site,
www.feldenkraisinfo.com.  I've followed all of hostway's directions for
setting up Mailman as a newsletter.

My problem is I've never done this before, and I really have no idea how to
get started.  I don't understand the basics.  I want to create a newsletter
and send it to my subscriber list automatically.  So, first, where do I
create the newsletter?  What are my options?  Second, how do I get the ball
rolling and have Mailman send it out?

Second, after I get the basics down I'd like to understand more about MIME
digest (I don't really understand digest), gatewaying, and all the terms you
use on your homepage.  If you could direct me to some simple explanations of
all these terms, I'd really appreciate it.

I've been poring over online manuals for weeks, so please understand that
I've been trying to get these answers myself, but finding myself very lost.
Thanks so much.

Adam Cole
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[Mailman-Users] mailman v2.0.5 fails

[pelicancomputers]

help. i'm running mailman on redhat with apache...

i can send mail to and from the server to and from the
internet...

if i send mail to a list member, it never gets there.

perms check out fine, db's check out fine...

what else can be wrong?

thanks for your help.

rf

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[Mailman-Users] Editing Welcome-message

[Jonas Meurer]

Hey ho,
Can I change the messages from mailman? At the confirm-mail:

mailinglist -- confirmation of subscription -- request 848064

We have received a request from 192.168.3.1 for subscription of your
email address, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list.  To confirm the request, please send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and either:
...


and at the welcome-message:
---
Welcome to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list! 
To post to this list, send your email to:

---

and so on for every mailinglist? So that really every word is changed.

How can I do this?

Bye
 Jonas

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP

[Jon Carnes]

restore the Mailman home directory from backup.  If your install is
identical then that will get you most of the way there.  The key things to
watch out for is the gid that the Mail server runs as, and the gid that your
Web-server (or cgi scripts) run as.  Next step is to add the CGI info into
your webserver's config file so that it knows how to find mailman's cgi
scripts.
- Original Message -
From: "Shaun Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP


> Hello.
>
> My list server died 2 days ago and I'm trying to get a new one up and
> running before all the mail queueing up around the world starts
> bouncing.
>
> I have set up a new system, but it has no lists at present. It's at the
> stage where one would start creating the lists.
>
> Exactly what do I need to restore to simply have all my old lists and
> their archives back? I'm looking to (hopefully) drop a directory or two
> into place and have everything all back and running ... is this
> possible?
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your kind assistance.
>
> -ste
> --
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Re: [Mailman-Users] queue...

[Jon Carnes]

What to do when your message cant queue?
Fix your DNS, increase your internet bandwidth, upgrade your MTA, or upgrade
your server hardware.

You should always be able to queue up a message... and if the currently
queued one's aren't flying off the disk and out to the internet where they
belong, then something is acting as a bottle neck!

Jon Carnes
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] queue...


>
>   Sorry but what can i do if the mailqueue in sendmail
> is full..i mean procedures, etc
>
> Thanks.
>
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[Mailman-Users] List restoration help needed ASAP

[Shaun Erickson]

Hello.

My list server died 2 days ago and I'm trying to get a new one up and
running before all the mail queueing up around the world starts
bouncing.

I have set up a new system, but it has no lists at present. It's at the
stage where one would start creating the lists.

Exactly what do I need to restore to simply have all my old lists and
their archives back? I'm looking to (hopefully) drop a directory or two
into place and have everything all back and running ... is this
possible?

Thanks, in advance, for your kind assistance.

-ste
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[Mailman-Users] Re: queue...

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

Quoting Alex Sammons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
>   Sorry but what can i do if the mailqueue in sendmail
> is full..i mean procedures, etc


  I'd say fix your sendmail?  You can temporarily "pause" mailman by removing 
the qrunner crontask, and let sendmail churn on your mailqueue for a while.

  Do you know what's causing your queue to get "full"?

  AMK4

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[Mailman-Users] queue...

[Alex Sammons]

  Sorry but what can i do if the mailqueue in sendmail
is full..i mean procedures, etc

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman and red hat 7.2

[Kory Wheatley]

Has anyone got mailman 2.0.8 to work with Red Hat 7.2?  I have problems,
everything installs fine I just can't receive messages from the lists,
the post log files always says "failure 1" the smtp log file displays
"connection refused", but on this same red hat box I can send a command
line  email using sendmail fine. I also have Majordomo working fine on
this box too. The sendmail port is listening externally. The messages
just sit there in the /mailman/qfiles directory.   The wrapper program
also has a soft link in /etc/smrsh pointing to the wrapper script
executable. The web server works fine, I can see my subscribed lists and
users. Any Solutions?


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Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

[Martin Skjoldebrand]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented. 
>I would not want
>some spamming company to adopt this software because of a
>setup option that
>allowed "unleavable lists", in any way, shape or form. 
>Yes, even if -you-
>required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree to it;
>other follow-on
>companies/scams may not.
>
>Believe me, if I find myself on a list that I cannot leave
>(or someone on my
>networks report such a thing)... that entire network just
>gets blackholed
>and submitted to the RBL.

I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be
possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed
when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact
them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists
that cover our area.

Martin S
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Martin Skjoldebrand
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:05 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
>>
>>
>> We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman.
>> Our info dept wants a list of press release people who
>are
>> not admitted to leave the list by
>> using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the
>list
>> admin).
>> Is this possible? Think I've seen this answered before
>but
>> can't find where.
>>
>> mvh/ Regards,
>>
>> Martin S.
>> CTO, Forum Syd
>>
>> "Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive
>mad."
>>
>>
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[Mailman-Users] partition...

[Alex Sammons]

  What about the convenience to have a partition on
/var/mail in a system

  Thanks!.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] maximun size...

[Greg Ward]

On 12 December 2001, Alex Sammons said:
>   What?s the maximum size of the attachments in a
> mailing list or what are the issues it depends

You can configure the maximum size of a message for each list.  I
believe it defaults to 40 kB.  I don't think there's a hard-coded
maximum to this configurable maximum.  AFAIK there's no way to set the
maximum size of individual attachments; Mailman 2.0 knows nothing about
MIME.

Be nice: don't setup a public mailing list that allows large messages or
attachments.  Keep these sort of things where they belong, in private.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [OT] open relay probes...

[Harold Paulson]

Jay,

It is unlikely that it's related to mailman.  For what it's worth, 
even Eric Allman says you shouldn't edit your .cf files directly:

http://www.sendmail.net/interviews/interview001.shtml

Always build your .cf from a .mc, and treat the .cf like a binary 
file.  The FAQs at sendmail.org are pretty good.  This page:

http://www.brettglass.com/spam.html

has excellent information on locking sendmail down against spam and 
other fun stuff.  It looks BSD specific, but it isn't really.

That said, if you can switch to a modern MTA (Postfix, etc..), do so now.

- H


>Need a little help - Getting relay probes from AOL and obiz (sic) that are
>reporting an "open relay" on my servers. (this has only happened after
>starting the lists) I'm running RH 7.2 w/ sendmail 8.11.x and the config
>tools are lousy. Anyone have a sure-fire, failsafe way to kill this problem??
>(I get a migraine just OPENING sendmail.cf)
>Any help would be appreciated. - respond "off list" to hold the traffic down
>if you like.
>PS: check out the "relaycheck" pages to see if you have this vulnerability.
>
>JSC
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[Mailman-Users] maximun size...

[Alex Sammons]

   Hi there

  What´s the maximum size of the attachments in a
mailing list or what are the issues it depends

   Thanks.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

[John Jones]

Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented.  I would not want
some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup option that
allowed "unleavable lists", in any way, shape or form.  Yes, even if -you-
required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree to it; other follow-on
companies/scams may not.

Believe me, if I find myself on a list that I cannot leave (or someone on my
networks report such a thing)... that entire network just gets blackholed
and submitted to the RBL.


John Jones, Systems Admin
http://www.ActiveState.com
Programming for the People


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Skjoldebrand
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
>
>
> We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman.
> Our info dept wants a list of press release people who are
> not admitted to leave the list by
> using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the list
> admin).
> Is this possible? Think I've seen this answered before but
> can't find where.
>
> mvh/ Regards,
>
> Martin S.
> CTO, Forum Syd
>
> "Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad."
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman wrapper generates OS error

[Marc MERLIN]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:54:18PM -0600, Chris Menzel wrote:
>   xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30015, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating \
>   system error
>   
> GIDs are correctly set for running mailman scripts.  Any suggestions
> appreciated.

Look for clues in ~mailman/logs/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [OT] open relay probes...

[Jon Carnes]

Interesting problem, since by default Sendmail will no longer relay.  You 
have to modify it or program it to be an open relay.

http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html

You may want to download the latest version and install that, then revisit 
your access rules in /etc/mail/...

Jon Carnes

On Wednesday 12 December 2001 08:32, Camel - Jay S. Curtis wrote:
> Need a little help - Getting relay probes from AOL and obiz (sic) that
> are reporting an "open relay" on my servers. (this has only happened
> after starting the lists) I'm running RH 7.2 w/ sendmail 8.11.x and the
> config tools are lousy. Anyone have a sure-fire, failsafe way to kill
> this problem?? (I get a migraine just OPENING sendmail.cf)
> Any help would be appreciated. - respond "off list" to hold the traffic
> down if you like.
> PS: check out the "relaycheck" pages to see if you have this
> vulnerability.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] disabling archives

[Richard Barrett]

At 10:15 12/12/2001 -0500, Joshua Gould wrote:
At 10:15 12/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>"Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Oddly enough, this is under the Archival section of the web-admin...
> > You can turn it off there.  Then, if you want to remove all the old
> > archives, you will need to login to the server and delete the files out of
> > ~mailman/archives/private//
> >
>
>Jon,
>
>If I'm understanding correctly, you are saying to visit:
>
>http://localhost/mailman/admin/testlist/archive
>
>and set "Archive messages?" to no.   Correct?
>
>The problem with this approach is that:
>
>1.> I would have to do it for all of our lists and we have TONS.

Put the following line in a text file and write a short script to run the 
$prefix/bin/config_list for each of your current lists:

 archive = 0

this will turn off all your current archiving more easily than using the web UI


>2.> New lists are still created with archiving on by default, so you would
> need to change this for all new lists too.

If you want archiving off by default for new lists then redefine the 
configuration variable DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = 0 in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py to 
override the value of 1 assigned to it in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py

>3.> If this list admin is someone other than me, they can simply log in and
> re-enable archiving.

Yes. That is what list admins are usually entitled to do

>Is there another way to disable archiving site wide?

If you really want to disable it permanently for all lists then I guess you 
are going to need to hack the python source.


>   Joshua


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Re: [Mailman-Users] disabling archives

[Jon Carnes]

On Wednesday 12 December 2001 10:15, Joshua Gould wrote:
> "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Oddly enough, this is under the Archival section of the web-admin...
> > You can turn it off there.  Then, if you want to remove all the old
> > archives, you will need to login to the server and delete the files out
> > of ~mailman/archives/private//
>
> Jon,
>
> If I'm understanding correctly, you are saying to visit:
>
> http://localhost/mailman/admin/testlist/archive
>
> and set "Archive messages?" to no.   Correct?

Correct.
>
> The problem with this approach is that:
>
> 1.> I would have to do it for all of our lists and we have TONS.

Consider it job security... or look at the utilities in ~mailman/bin/... 
and write a script to do it for you.

>
> 2.> New lists are still created with archiving on by default, so you
> would need to change this for all new lists too.

Edit ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (look at Defaults.py in the same directory 
for instructions...) and set archiving to off.

While you are there, edit a few other entries that you always find yourself 
adjusting on new lists (or wish that admins would choose by default...)

>
> 3.> If this list admin is someone other than me, they can simply log in
> and re-enable archiving.

Change the rights on the ~mailman/archive directory so that creation of 
archives fails, or simply tell your admins not to turn it on, since this is 
really a management issue and not a technical one.

Jon Carnes

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Secure server

[Jon Carnes]

You can always edit out the cron job that sends passwords out...  And 
replace it with a script that sends out a message with a link to the 
Listinfo pages of the lists that the user is subscribed to.

In this way the passwords are not sent out arbitrarily.  

To get https to work for Mailman is simple.  Of course that depends on you 
installing an https server first (like apache-ssl).  Once you have done 
that, move your mailman cgi definition into the https section of the 
httpd.conf file. 

Viola, folks now use https to connect to your mailman install.

BTW, the passwords are stored in plain text on your server, but there is no 
reason in the world that they need to be world readable.  They only need to 
be readable by the group "mailman".  So really, there is no reason that a 
user should have access the them.

Jon Carnes

On Wednesday 12 December 2001 08:54, alex wetmore wrote:
> On 12 Dec 2001, Rodolfo Pilas wrote:
> > Is there are any way to have the passoword authentication under a
> > secure server (https) ??
> >
> > Can you give me some tip?
>
> Sure, you can configure apache-ssl to do this.
>
> What would be the point though?  The list still sends out plaintext
> passwords, and the passwords exist on disk in plaintext.  The list
> member passwords are not meant to be secure.
>
> alex
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Re: [Mailman-Users] disabling archives

[Joshua Gould]

"Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oddly enough, this is under the Archival section of the web-admin...
> You can turn it off there.  Then, if you want to remove all the old
> archives, you will need to login to the server and delete the files out of
> ~mailman/archives/private//
> 

Jon,

If I'm understanding correctly, you are saying to visit:

http://localhost/mailman/admin/testlist/archive

and set "Archive messages?" to no.   Correct?

The problem with this approach is that:

1.> I would have to do it for all of our lists and we have TONS.

2.> New lists are still created with archiving on by default, so you would
need to change this for all new lists too.

3.> If this list admin is someone other than me, they can simply log in and
re-enable archiving.

Is there another way to disable archiving site wide?


  Joshua

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Re: [Mailman-Users] message footer

[Jon Carnes]

Not a practical solution to any problem I can think of...  but yes, you 
could do something like that: 
  Stop sendmail, 
  restart it in queue-only mode, 
  run qrunner to process the waiting lists, 
  edit the raw messages waiting in sendmails queue, 
  Stop sendmail, and 
  restart it in daemon mode, 
  Let it deliver all the waiting messages - do it all again

Can't you just edit the footer in the Web-admin to your satisfaction?  If 
not, look at using Procmail.

Jon Carnes

On Wednesday 12 December 2001 04:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a way to change via script shell the footer of the messages?
>
> My goal is to change the footer with a script shell launched
> periodically by cron, something like
>
> myprogram > /home/mailman/[whatever]
>
> or something like that.
>
>
> Is there the possibility to do this?
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Luigi
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[Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

[Martin Skjoldebrand]

We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman. 
Our info dept wants a list of press release people who are
not admitted to leave the list by
using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the list
admin). 
Is this possible? Think I've seen this answered before but
can't find where.

mvh/ Regards,

Martin S.
CTO, Forum Syd

"Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad." 


 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Secure server

[alex wetmore]

On 12 Dec 2001, Rodolfo Pilas wrote:
> Is there are any way to have the passoword authentication under a secure
> server (https) ??
>
> Can you give me some tip?

Sure, you can configure apache-ssl to do this.

What would be the point though?  The list still sends out plaintext
passwords, and the passwords exist on disk in plaintext.  The list
member passwords are not meant to be secure.

alex


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[Mailman-Users] [OT] open relay probes...

[Camel - Jay S. Curtis]

Need a little help - Getting relay probes from AOL and obiz (sic) that are 
reporting an "open relay" on my servers. (this has only happened after 
starting the lists) I'm running RH 7.2 w/ sendmail 8.11.x and the config 
tools are lousy. Anyone have a sure-fire, failsafe way to kill this problem??
(I get a migraine just OPENING sendmail.cf)
Any help would be appreciated. - respond "off list" to hold the traffic down 
if you like.
PS: check out the "relaycheck" pages to see if you have this vulnerability.

JSC
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[Mailman-Users] Secure server

[Rodolfo Pilas]

Is there are any way to have the passoword authentication under a secure
server (https) ??

Can you give me some tip?

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[Mailman-Users] message footer

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Is there a way to change via script shell the footer of the messages?

My goal is to change the footer with a script shell launched
periodically by cron, something like

myprogram > /home/mailman/[whatever]

or something like that.


Is there the possibility to do this?


Thank you

Luigi

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