[Mailman-Users] hi

2001-12-13 Thread doug

hello:)
I've success in mailman working with sendmail.
Now I want to try mailman go with postfix.
After I install postfix,and try to subscript a list for  test.
The mail send to my mail address as usual .
I reply the mail and hope it's ok

Unfortunately,  my postfix reply a message very quickly:


This is the Postfix program at host itschen.ascc.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Command died with status 2:
/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd list3. Command output: Failure 
to exec
script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99.  (Reconfigure to take 99?)

[ Part 2: Delivery error report ]


Reporting-MTA: dns; itschen.ascc
Arrival-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:41:46 +0800 (CST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2:
/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd list3. Command output: Failure 
to exec
script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99.  (Reconfigure to take 99?)


[ Part 3: Undelivered Message ]

Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:41:46 +0800 (CST)
From: test user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List3 -- confirmation of subscription -- request
881176


confirm 881176

-

what should I do now?
Can postfix work with mailman??



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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

2001-12-13 Thread alex wetmore

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, marina wrote:
 Is there a way to tell Mailman to strip the HTML portions?

There are a few different programs which can be installed along with
Mailman (or one set of patches for Mailman) that strip HTML and
attachments from messages before they are sent to the list.

One that I wrote is http://www.phred.org/~alex/stripmime.html .

There is no built in way to do this.

alex


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[Mailman-Users] two instances of mailman

2001-12-13 Thread Rick Francis

i'm running 2.0.5...i want to install 2.0.8 in a seperate directory...

how to i get the lists/databases into 2.0.8 while preserving 2.0.5??

thanks.



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[Mailman-Users] Speaking of spam... nice article

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes



Mandrake Forum has a nice article on dealing with 
spam. Though the articles focus is on Mandrake, the info is applicable to 
all linux distro's. The article focus is on Postfix and Qmail.

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/spam.php


[Mailman-Users] Gateway a news group doesn't get first dozen messages

2001-12-13 Thread Dean_Roberts

Hi folks,

I have mailman 2.0.6 and when I gateway a news group the first couple of dozen messages are not gatewayed even though I have the CatchUp option set to No. New incoming messages get gatewayed just fine.

Both news groups are on the same news server and are configured the same. Does anybody have any suggestions about what the problem could be.

Thanks

...Dean...


[Mailman-Users] the best way to...

2001-12-13 Thread Alex Sammons

Hi there!!!

   I have a question(a Unix question), what´s the best
way to transport the files and directories of the
users located in a ufs  /export/home to another called
/export/home2, i mean considering home directories,
passwords, etc???


Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Just a quick Q

2001-12-13 Thread Cagri Yucel

Hi all,

I've configured mailman on the server a.blah.org, however I would like
to use hostname
b.blag.org for mailman operation.

I set the hostname for the list to b.blah.org, so everything goes
perfect, only the delivered messages
Are coming from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How can I fix this ? I'm using SMTPDirect so its not the local sendmail
masquarading the address.

Another, small problem is that, mime or html messages sent to the list
are displayed in a weird style in the archive, any way to fix this ?


Thanks in advance for any advice.

Cagri


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[Mailman-Users] Bounce recipient loop encountered

2001-12-13 Thread Carl Sweetland

Greetings,

My Mailman has stopped sending messages. Everything has been working fine for 
months...but has stopped sending.  It looks like all the mail recipients are 
bouncing.

Snippit of Bounce Log:
Dec 13 07:52:47 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - exceeded limi
ts
Dec 13 07:52:47 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: already disabled [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
Dec 13 07:52:58 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - exceeded limi
ts
Dec 13 07:52:58 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: already disabled [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
Dec 13 07:53:08 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - exceeded limi
ts
Dec 13 07:53:08 2001 (30096) Seattle_branch: already disabled [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
=

Snippit of Error Log:
Dec 13 07:14:15 2001 (28224) seattle_branch: Bounce recipient loop encountered!
(Ie, bounce notification addr, itself, bounces.)
Bad admin recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dec 13 07:42:18 2001 (29835) seattle_branch: Bounce recipient loop encountered!
(Ie, bounce notification addr, itself, bounces.)
Bad admin recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==

Snippit of /var/log/maillog:
Dec 10 12:05:04 web sendmail[6353]: MAA06353: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=carl@swe
etlands.com, relay=IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1], reject=551
we do not relay
=

Here is my /etc/mail/access file:
localhost.localdomain   RELAY
localhost   RELAY
127.0.0.1   RELAY
63.225.191.43   RELAY


Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Carl Sweetland

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

2001-12-13 Thread Greg Ward

On 13 December 2001, marina said:
 As a result, this list digests include huge portions of HTML coding - 
 which is perceived as extremely annoying by several users (including 
 some who choose to use HTML mail, of course).

That's a FAQ: see
  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.008.htp

 Please consider we have no access to the source code.

Yes you do!  Mailman is open source; everyone has access to the source
code.  You may not have the expertise or resources to hack on it, but
that's *not* the same thing.

Greg
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Re: [Mailman-Users] two instances of mailman

2001-12-13 Thread Greg Ward

On 13 December 2001, Rick Francis said:
 i'm running 2.0.5...i want to install 2.0.8 in a seperate directory...
 
 how to i get the lists/databases into 2.0.8 while preserving 2.0.5??

Did you try copying the files in ~mailman/lists?  That should work.

Or if this is just for a just-in-case backup, why not make a copy of
your 2.0.5 installation and then upgrade in the usual way?

Greg

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

2001-12-13 Thread Paul Tomblin

Quoting Greg Ward ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Please consider we have no access to the source code.
 
 Yes you do!  Mailman is open source; everyone has access to the source
 code.  You may not have the expertise or resources to hack on it, but
 that's *not* the same thing.

Or more likely, he has no control over the installation of the software on
the machine he's running the mailing list.  If I let somebody set up a
mailing list on my site, using the copy of mailman that I installed, it is
extremely unlikely that I'm going to let him mess with the source code on
my machine.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] the best way to...

2001-12-13 Thread Dave Sherohman

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 09:33:01AM -0600, Alex Sammons wrote:
I have a question(a Unix question), what´s the best
 way to transport the files and directories of the
 users located in a ufs  /export/home to another called
 /export/home2, i mean considering home directories,
 passwords, etc???

Assuming you have the typical set of GNU/Linux tools installed, go
into the source directory (/export/home) and, as root:

find . -xdev -print0 | cpio -pvdm0 /export/home2

If you are not doing this on a Debian system, I would strongly
suggest reading man cpio first to ensure that these are the correct
options for your version.

Note also that, if either the source or destination directory is
mounted over NFS, this will fail if the NFS directory is exported
with the root_squash option (which is the default in most current
nfsd implementations - add the no_root_squash option to override
it).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] the best way to...

2001-12-13 Thread Paul Tomblin

Quoting Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 09:33:01AM -0600, Alex Sammons wrote:
 I have a question(a Unix question), what´s the best
  way to transport the files and directories of the
  users located in a ufs  /export/home to another called
  /export/home2, i mean considering home directories,
  passwords, etc???
 
 Assuming you have the typical set of GNU/Linux tools installed, go
 into the source directory (/export/home) and, as root:
 
 find . -xdev -print0 | cpio -pvdm0 /export/home2

Or my personal favourite

tar cvfB - . | (cd /export/home2; tar xvBPf -)


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[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1a3 compatible mailman-htdig patches

2001-12-13 Thread Richard Barrett

I have today posted revised versions of the following patches on 
sourceforge. These revisions address the significant changes in the Mailman 
source code from 2.0.X to 2.1a3. The patches should apply without complaint 
to the code published in mailman-2.1a4.tgz on sourceforge. Hopefully the 
revisions will also be usable with the CVS version of 2.1 but I have not 
been able to verify that.

If anyone uses these revised patches I would be pleased to receive their 
feedback about problems they may encounter.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444879group_id=103atid=300103

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103


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Re: [Mailman-Users] the best way to...

2001-12-13 Thread Dave Sherohman

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:06:06PM -0500, Paul Tomblin wrote:
 Quoting Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  find . -xdev -print0 | cpio -pvdm0 /export/home2
 
 Or my personal favourite
 
 tar cvfB - . | (cd /export/home2; tar xvBPf -)

I've always stuck with cpio because I've heard that tar has problems
dealing with links and other special files.  Is that a thing of the
past?

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[Mailman-Users] domain isn't in my list of rcpthosts

2001-12-13 Thread Ron Parker

Linux 7.2.  mailman+qmail+vpopmail.

An update from previous post.  I took localhost.localdomain out of
/etc/hosts.  The ehlo changed from localhost.localdomain to
host4.scbbs.com (64.233.20.66).  In /etc/tcp.smtp:

1.2.3.6:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
64.233.20.66:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=

It appears that qmail won't relay mail sent by mailman, even though
mailman is running on the localhost.  The default hostname for mailman
is: host4.scbbs.com.  What is it about the way mailman sends e-mail that
would cause this problem?  Any clue as to what I need to change?

# Site-specific settings
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'host4.scbbs.com'
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://host4.scbbs.com/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/pipermail'
PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private'

HOME_PAGE = 'index.html'
MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail'
SMTPHOST = 'host4.scbbs.com'

The log:

Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.848334 tcpserver: status: 1/40
Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.851272 tcpserver: pid 13761 from
127.0.0.1
Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.886189 tcpserver: ok 13761
localhost:127.0.0.1:25 localhost:127.0.0.1::1034
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.011719 13761  220
host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.018573 13761  ehlo
localhost.localdomain?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.020464 13761 
250-host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.020903 13761  250-PIPELINING?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.021301 13761  250 8BITMIME?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.046193 13761  mail
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.046986 13761  250 ok?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.060541 13761  rcpt
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.061390 13761  553 sorry, that
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.082271 13761  rset?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.083010 13761  250 flushed?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.107914 13761  quit?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.109225 tcpserver: end 13761
status 0
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.109596 tcpserver: status: 0/40
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.110069 13761  221
host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.133194 13761  [EOF]

changed to this

Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.122951 tcpserver: status: 1/40
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.125794 tcpserver: pid 3710 from
127.0.0.1
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.140285 tcpserver: ok 3710
localhost:127.0.0.1:25 localhost:127.0.0.1::1028
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.453632 3710  220
host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?

Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.460840 3710  ehlo
host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.461727 3710 
250-host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.462229 3710  250-PIPELINING?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.462696 3710  250 8BITMIME?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.489319 3710  mail
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.490244 3710  250 ok?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.508601 3710  rcpt
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.509548 3710  553 sorry, that
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.515317 3710  rset?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.516348 3710  250 flushed?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.519576 3710  quit?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.520635 3710  221
host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.540792 tcpserver: end 3710
status 0
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.577014 tcpserver: status: 0/40
Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.645401 3710  [EOF]


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[Mailman-Users] document root

2001-12-13 Thread Martin Skjoldebrand

If I want to make an alternative list index page what
should be the document root? I've had a look in
/home/mailman but can't see the correct page there anywhere.

That is - I want users to go to 
http://lists.forumsyd.net; rather than

http://www.forumsyd.net/mailman/listinfo

So I need to give the virtual domain lists.x.x. a document
root.


mvh/ Regards,

Martin S.
CTO, Forum Syd

Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. 


 




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[Mailman-Users] Doesn't work: ./configure --with-mail-gid=12

2001-12-13 Thread Bryan Field-Elliot




Hi,



I'm using Sendmail 8.12.1.



I'm new to Mailman, just trying to get it working today.



When I try to send it commands, I get this bounce message from Sendmail:



 - Transcript of session follows -

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. (Reconfigure to take 2?)

554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2



I understand what's happening here, but my attempts to fix it are failing. In my mailman source directory, I am doing this:



make clean

 ./configure --with-mail-gid=12

make install



Yet, it has no effect -- further messages being sent to my Mailman are giving me this same bounce message. Am I missing something?



Thank you!



Bryan








RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Richard Idalski

Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the list and
looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info section, but
not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly, so how
would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?

   Thanks,

  Richard Idalski

-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the nomail
option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does not*
erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is still
in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.

Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).

You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.

For now, look at the database using:
  ~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more

and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now remove
the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the first
check mark next to their name / click on the Submit Your Changes button at
the bottom of the page).

Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?

Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems



 Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
 shouldn't be.
 Here are the results of the bounce log:


 Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - exceeded
 limits
 Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the UI,
 and the 'nomail' option is NOT checked for this address.

 I've tried unsubscribing this address and re-adding it to the lists, all
to
 no avail, it comes back up with the exceeded limits error.  Where can I
 re-enable this account, my next step will be to completey delete and
 re-create the list, but short of this what can I do?


   -Richard Idalski


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes

To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the nomail
option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does not*
erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is still
in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.

Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).

You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.

For now, look at the database using:
  ~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more

and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now remove
the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the first
check mark next to their name / click on the Submit Your Changes button at
the bottom of the page).

Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?

Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems



 Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
 shouldn't be.
 Here are the results of the bounce log:


 Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - exceeded
 limits
 Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the UI,
 and the 'nomail' option is NOT checked for this address.

 I've tried unsubscribing this address and re-adding it to the lists, all
to
 no avail, it comes back up with the exceeded limits error.  Where can I
 re-enable this account, my next step will be to completey delete and
 re-create the list, but short of this what can I do?


   -Richard Idalski


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Re: [Mailman-Users] document root

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes

The list index page is created from a cgi-program called listinfo that is in
the directory ~mailman/cgi-bin/..

An easy solution for you would be to write a small cgi that redirects to a
static page or to another site, and call the cgi listinfo so that it
replaces the current one.

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Martin Skjoldebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:23 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] document root


 If I want to make an alternative list index page what
 should be the document root? I've had a look in
 /home/mailman but can't see the correct page there anywhere.

 That is - I want users to go to
 http://lists.forumsyd.net; rather than

 http://www.forumsyd.net/mailman/listinfo

 So I need to give the virtual domain lists.x.x. a document
 root.


 mvh/ Regards,

 Martin S.
 CTO, Forum Syd

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes

This is either a bug or an error in your config file.  What version of
Mailman are your running?  Have run
  ~mailman/bin/check_db  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db

???

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


 Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the list
and
 looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info section,
but
 not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly, so
how
 would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?

Thanks,

   Richard Idalski

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
 To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


 To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the
nomail
 option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does
not*
 erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is
still
 in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
 more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.

 Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
 bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).

 You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.

 For now, look at the database using:
   ~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more

 and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now
remove
 the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the
first
 check mark next to their name / click on the Submit Your Changes button
at
 the bottom of the page).

 Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
 members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?

 Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


 
  Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
  shouldn't be.
  Here are the results of the bounce log:
 
 
  Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
exceeded
  limits
  Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the UI,
  and the 'nomail' option is NOT checked for this address.
 
  I've tried unsubscribing this address and re-adding it to the lists, all
 to
  no avail, it comes back up with the exceeded limits error.  Where can I
  re-enable this account, my next step will be to completey delete and
  re-create the list, but short of this what can I do?
 
 
-Richard Idalski
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] domain isn't in my list of rcpthosts

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes

Here is a qmail newbie guide to relaying...
  http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html

I'm not a q-mailer so can't tell how useful it is...
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:48 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] domain isn't in my list of rcpthosts


 Linux 7.2.  mailman+qmail+vpopmail.
 
 An update from previous post.  I took localhost.localdomain out of
 /etc/hosts.  The ehlo changed from localhost.localdomain to
 host4.scbbs.com (64.233.20.66).  In /etc/tcp.smtp:
 
 1.2.3.6:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
 64.233.20.66:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
 
 It appears that qmail won't relay mail sent by mailman, even though
 mailman is running on the localhost.  The default hostname for mailman
 is: host4.scbbs.com.  What is it about the way mailman sends e-mail that
 would cause this problem?  Any clue as to what I need to change?
 
 # Site-specific settings
 DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'host4.scbbs.com'
 DEFAULT_URL = 'http://host4.scbbs.com/mailman/'
 PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/pipermail'
 PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private'
 
 HOME_PAGE = 'index.html'
 MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME
 
 MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail'
 SMTPHOST = 'host4.scbbs.com'
 
 The log:
 
 Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.848334 tcpserver: status: 1/40
 Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.851272 tcpserver: pid 13761 from
 127.0.0.1
 Dec 12 21:54:05 host4 smtpd: 1008222845.886189 tcpserver: ok 13761
 localhost:127.0.0.1:25 localhost:127.0.0.1::1034
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.011719 13761  220
 host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.018573 13761  ehlo
 localhost.localdomain?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.020464 13761 
 250-host4.scbbs.com?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.020903 13761  250-PIPELINING?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.021301 13761  250 8BITMIME?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.046193 13761  mail
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.046986 13761  250 ok?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.060541 13761  rcpt
 TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.061390 13761  553 sorry, that
 domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.082271 13761  rset?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.083010 13761  250 flushed?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.107914 13761  quit?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.109225 tcpserver: end 13761
 status 0
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.109596 tcpserver: status: 0/40
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.110069 13761  221
 host4.scbbs.com?
 Dec 12 21:54:06 host4 smtpd: 1008222846.133194 13761  [EOF]
 
 changed to this
 
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.122951 tcpserver: status: 1/40
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.125794 tcpserver: pid 3710 from
 127.0.0.1
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.140285 tcpserver: ok 3710
 localhost:127.0.0.1:25 localhost:127.0.0.1::1028
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.453632 3710  220
 host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?
 
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.460840 3710  ehlo
 host4.scbbs.com?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.461727 3710 
 250-host4.scbbs.com?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.462229 3710  250-PIPELINING?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.462696 3710  250 8BITMIME?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.489319 3710  mail
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.490244 3710  250 ok?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.508601 3710  rcpt
 TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.509548 3710  553 sorry, that
 domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.515317 3710  rset?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.516348 3710  250 flushed?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.519576 3710  quit?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.520635 3710  221
 host4.scbbs.com?
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.540792 tcpserver: end 3710
 status 0
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.577014 tcpserver: status: 0/40
 Dec 13 10:29:43 host4 smtpd: 1008268183.645401 3710  [EOF]
 
 
 --
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 Software Creationshttp://www.scbbs.com
 TradeWinds Publishing http://www.intl-trade.com
 TradePoint Los Angeleshttp://www.tradepointla.org
 SiteDirector Security Server  http://livepublish.scbbs.com
 Civil War Online Library  http://civilwar.scbbs.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Doesn't work: ./configure --with-mail-gid=12

2001-12-13 Thread Dan Mick


 When I try to send it commands, I get this bounce message from Sendmail:
 
- Transcript of session follows -
 Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2.  (Reconfigure to take
 2?)
 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
 
 I understand what's happening here, but my attempts to fix it are
 failing. In my mailman source directory, I am doing this:
 
 make clean
  ./configure --with-mail-gid=12

This is *causing* the problem.  The program that issues the message
above is part of mailman, and it wants what you told it it was getting:
gid 12.  However, what it's *getting* is gid 2.

You need to reconfigure to take 2.

This is FAQ number 1.4, btw, too.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Gateway a news group doesn't get first dozen messages

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes



I probably didn't understand the question (or the 
problem...), but it sounds like you had a simple problem that some of the posts 
were ignored, but now everything is working fine. This delay could have 
been a simple matter of when cron startedup the proper 
scripts.

The current version of Mailman does not use a 
daemon to run its processes - instead cron is used to startup several 
sub-processes that use lock files to monitor each other (so they don't step on 
each other). The news gating processes may not start for several 
minutes.

Jon Carnes

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:18 
  AM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Gateway a news 
  group doesn't get first dozen messages
  Hi folks, I have mailman 2.0.6 and when I gateway a news group 
  the first couple of dozen messages are not gatewayed even though I have the 
  "CatchUp" option set to No. New incoming messages get gatewayed just 
  fine. Both news groups are on the 
  same news server and are configured the same. Does anybody have any 
  suggestions about what the problem could be. Thanks ...Dean... 


RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Dan Mick


 Whoa... me thinks you're on to something, I'm running v2.08 which I upgraded
 a few days ago. when i run chec_db on that particular db I get :
 
 
 root@lists bin]# ./check_db ../lists/affiliates/config.db
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db cannot be
 opened:
 Not a directory
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last cannot be
 opened:
 Not a directory

Doesn't the fact that it issues a message with config.db listed
twice make you a little curious?  Ypu gave the wrong args to
check_db.

check_db's usage message (also in the top of the script):

Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] [listname [listname ...]]

Try 

cd ~mailman
bin/check_db affiliates


 
 * ALERT *
 Both the original database file and the backup seem
 corrupted.  You will probably need to recover both
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db
 and
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last
 from a system backup, or remove the list `../lists/affiliates/config.db' and
 re-create it from scratch.
 
So It looks like I'l be recreating the list after all.
 
 One other thing I'm wondering is that this address is getting these errors
 fro multiple lists that it's on. Could they all eb corrupt? If so what could
 cause multiple lists to be corrupt?
 
   Thanks Again,
 
   Richard Idalski
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:28 PM
 To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
 This is either a bug or an error in your config file.  What version of
 Mailman are your running?  Have run
   ~mailman/bin/check_db  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db
 
 ???
 
 Jon Carnes
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:20 PM
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the list
 and
  looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info section,
 but
  not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly, so
 how
  would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?
 
 Thanks,
 
Richard Idalski
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
  To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the
 nomail
  option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does
 not*
  erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is
 still
  in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
  more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.
 
  Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
  bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).
 
  You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.
 
  For now, look at the database using:
~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more
 
  and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now
 remove
  the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the
 first
  check mark next to their name / click on the Submit Your Changes button
 at
  the bottom of the page).
 
  Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
  members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?
 
  Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  
   Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
   shouldn't be.
   Here are the results of the bounce log:
  
  
   Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 exceeded
   limits
   Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the UI,
   and the 'nomail' option is NOT checked for this address.
  
   I've tried unsubscribing this address and re-adding it to the lists, all
  to
   no avail, it comes back up with the exceeded limits error.  Where can I
   re-enable this account, my next step will be to completey delete and
   re-create the list, but short of this what can I do?
  
  
 -Richard Idalski
  
  
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Richard Idalski

And My very grievous oversight becomes apparent... well aside from hanging
my head in embarrassment, I now see that the db is not corrupt after all:

[root@lists bin]# ./check_db affiliates
/home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db is fine
/home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db.last is fine

 So, what could we be looking at then? a problem with my configuration? a
bug? any ideas?


   Thanks,

Richard Idalski

-Original Message-
From: Dan Mick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems



 Whoa... me thinks you're on to something, I'm running v2.08 which I
upgraded
 a few days ago. when i run chec_db on that particular db I get :


 root@lists bin]# ./check_db ../lists/affiliates/config.db
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db cannot be
 opened:
 Not a directory
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last cannot be
 opened:
 Not a directory

Doesn't the fact that it issues a message with config.db listed
twice make you a little curious?  Ypu gave the wrong args to
check_db.

check_db's usage message (also in the top of the script):

Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] [listname [listname ...]]

Try

cd ~mailman
bin/check_db affiliates



 * ALERT *
 Both the original database file and the backup seem
 corrupted.  You will probably need to recover both
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db
 and
 /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last
 from a system backup, or remove the list `../lists/affiliates/config.db'
and
 re-create it from scratch.

So It looks like I'l be recreating the list after all.

 One other thing I'm wondering is that this address is getting these errors
 fro multiple lists that it's on. Could they all eb corrupt? If so what
could
 cause multiple lists to be corrupt?

   Thanks Again,

   Richard Idalski





 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:28 PM
 To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


 This is either a bug or an error in your config file.  What version of
 Mailman are your running?  Have run
   ~mailman/bin/check_db  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db

 ???

 Jon Carnes
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:20 PM
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


  Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the list
 and
  looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info section,
 but
  not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly, so
 how
  would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?
 
 Thanks,
 
Richard Idalski
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
  To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the
 nomail
  option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does
 not*
  erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is
 still
  in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
  more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.
 
  Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
  bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).
 
  You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.
 
  For now, look at the database using:
~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more
 
  and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now
 remove
  the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the
 first
  check mark next to their name / click on the Submit Your Changes
button
 at
  the bottom of the page).
 
  Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
  members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?
 
  Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  
   Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
   shouldn't be.
   Here are the results of the bounce log:
  
  
   Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 exceeded
   limits
   Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the
UI,
   and the 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

2001-12-13 Thread Jon Carnes

Looks like a possible bug in 2.0.8.  When I get a chance, I'll test out a
2.0.8 site that I run and see if it does the same.
If it does, I'll compare the code and see if I can isolate it...

There was a message about two weeks ago that outlined the use
~mailman/bin/withlist.  You should be able to use this to remove the errant
entry manually from the database.  Frankly I think it's easier to startup
Python, and do it that way (make a copy of the database first...).

Good Luck - I'm off to a Christmas party!

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dan Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems


 And My very grievous oversight becomes apparent... well aside from hanging
 my head in embarrassment, I now see that the db is not corrupt after all:

 [root@lists bin]# ./check_db affiliates
 /home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db is fine
 /home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db.last is fine

  So, what could we be looking at then? a problem with my configuration? a
 bug? any ideas?


Thanks,

 Richard Idalski

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Mick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems



  Whoa... me thinks you're on to something, I'm running v2.08 which I
 upgraded
  a few days ago. when i run chec_db on that particular db I get :
 
 
  root@lists bin]# ./check_db ../lists/affiliates/config.db
  /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db cannot be
  opened:
  Not a directory
  /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last cannot
be
  opened:
  Not a directory

 Doesn't the fact that it issues a message with config.db listed
 twice make you a little curious?  Ypu gave the wrong args to
 check_db.

 check_db's usage message (also in the top of the script):

 Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] [listname [listname ...]]

 Try

 cd ~mailman
 bin/check_db affiliates


 
  * ALERT *
  Both the original database file and the backup seem
  corrupted.  You will probably need to recover both
  /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db
  and
  /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last
  from a system backup, or remove the list `../lists/affiliates/config.db'
 and
  re-create it from scratch.
 
 So It looks like I'l be recreating the list after all.
 
  One other thing I'm wondering is that this address is getting these
errors
  fro multiple lists that it's on. Could they all eb corrupt? If so what
 could
  cause multiple lists to be corrupt?
 
Thanks Again,
 
  Richard Idalski
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:28 PM
  To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
  This is either a bug or an error in your config file.  What version of
  Mailman are your running?  Have run
~mailman/bin/check_db  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db
 
  ???
 
  Jon Carnes
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:20 PM
  Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
 
 
   Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the
list
  and
   looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info
section,
  but
   not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly,
so
  how
   would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?
  
  Thanks,
  
 Richard Idalski
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
   To: Richard Idalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems
  
  
   To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the
  nomail
   option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does
  not*
   erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is
  still
   in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that
one
   more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.
  
   Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from
the
   bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).
  
   You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.
  
   For now, look at the database using:
 ~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/listname/config.db |more
  
   and look for the user.  You will find them under bounce_ info.  Now
  remove
   the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the
  first
   check mark 

[Mailman-Users] how to suppress List- info?

2001-12-13 Thread William H. Sterner

I'm a new list manager and haven't been able to figure out how to 
suppress the following List- lines in each message from the 
Administrator's manual.  My group is a small group of technical 
people, and I really want to eliminate this visual clutter, not to 
mention the wasted storage and bandwidth.



List-Help: mailto:
List-Post: mailto:
List-Subscribe: http://mailman,
   mailto:umeister-request@
List-Id: .
List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman,
   mailto:umeister-requestsubject=unsubscribe
List-Archive: http://mailman

Any help would be most appreciated.

Bill Sterner
Dir. CS Lab
University of Chciago


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[Mailman-Users] SUMMARY: mailman v2.0.5 fails

2001-12-13 Thread pelicancomputers

A:

several problems found and repaired:

1. DNS turned off
2. mm_cfg.py's SMTPHOST pointed to an alias only valid
on the DNS server!
3. /etc/hosts' 127.0.0.1 not pointing to localhost
4. /etc/hosts' incorrectly paired hosts' hostname with
its' IP address, nor was a valid alias paired
correctly.

amazing it ever worked in the first place.

special thanks to DAN M. for private consultation.

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 help. i'm running mailman on redhat with apache...
 
 i can send mail to and from the server to and from
 the
 internet...
 
 if i send mail to a list member, it never gets
 there.
 
 perms check out fine, db's check out fine...
 
 what else can be wrong?
 
 thanks for your help.
 
 rf
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to suppress List- info?

2001-12-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach

On 12/13/01 2:35 PM, William H. Sterner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm a new list manager and haven't been able to figure out how to
 suppress the following List- lines in each message from the
 Administrator's manual.

It's in the FAQ.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

2001-12-13 Thread marina

At 11:43 AM -0500 13/12/01 [dmy], you wrote about [Subject] Re: 
[Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?:
  Or more likely, he has no control over the installation of the software on
  the machine he's running the mailing list.  If I let somebody set up a
  mailing list on my site, using the copy of mailman that I installed, it is
  extremely unlikely that I'm going to let him mess with the source code on
  my machine.
  


That's exactly it, Paul. Thank you for explaining it so clearly. 
Sure, Python is easy to use and Mailman is well written, but we run 
our list on a huge hosting server and we don't have admin privileges.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid this also means we cannot use Alex's suggestion.

 From the point of view of making Mailman more popular or not, it's 
obvious that the first thing users are going to see, is how messy are 
both digests and individual messages. This is giving Mailman a bad 
name.

Thank you anyway, and let's hope that future versions of Mailman make 
it easier to use the software on sites that run multiple lists, where 
each list needs different configuration options.

marina

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing Welcome-message

2001-12-13 Thread Tjalling Kikkert

On 12-12-2001 23:56 Jonas Meurer wrote:

 Hey ho,
 Can I change the messages from mailman? At the confirm-mail:

That's not too difficult:
edit verify.txt (/templates directory) the way you want it. Maybe even leave
it empty. Same for userpass.txt. Use strings like:
%(user)s
%(listname)s
%(password)s
for list specific items

start typing (in the web interface) the List-specific text prepended to
new-subscriber welcome message option (General Options).

greetz,

Tjalling

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[Mailman-Users] sendmail to posfix - stumped

2001-12-13 Thread Camel - Jay S . Curtis

Well, nothing is ever as easy as it seems...
Anyone have any wisdom on completing the mailman
conversion from sendmail to postfix?

I guess I just don't understand the brief instrustions
regarding getting mailman to work w/postfix

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[Mailman-Users] attach file

2001-12-13 Thread Luciana Meneghel

How can I reject automaticly a message with attach file?
And How can I reject automaticly a message write in html?

Thanks.


begin:vcard 
n:Meneghel;Luciana
tel;home:http://www.ead.unicamp.br
tel;work:Equipe EAD - Unicamp
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
org:CCUEC - UNICAMP;(19) 37882287
adr:;;
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
title:Analista de Sistemas
fn:Luciana Meneghel
end:vcard



[Mailman-Users] Questions about MailMan

2001-12-13 Thread David Steiner



Hi,
I'm very impressed with your software and I would like to 
implement it on our Site, however, one of the features that our users are 
looking for is the ability to post an reply to messages from the Web interface. 
(YahooGroups has this functionality). My questions are:

1) Will future versions of MailMan support this 
feature?

2) Is there any way to incorporate an existing discussion 
board software with MailMan to allow posting via the Web and also receive email 
notification?

Thanks,
David SteinerPresident, 
AuctionBytes.comPO Box 668, Natick, MA 01760 -- AuctionBytes, as 
seen in Wall Street Journal, Boston Herald, NBC News, ABC 
'Chronicle'-- Auction-News Correspondent, "Calling All Collectors" Radio 
WSRO 1470AM Boston-- Get auction and collecting news  
information at http://www.auctionbytes.com


[Mailman-Users] domain isn't in list of allowed rcpthosts

2001-12-13 Thread Ron Parker

Hello,

Installed mailman 2.0.8 on Linux 7.2 system running qmail+vpopmail.
Install appeared to work.  Created list.  I can access list admin.
However, when I try to subscribe to list, the user doesn't get anything
back.

Looking at the logs, I see this (mail list is host4.scbbs.com, user
trying to subscribe is [EMAIL PROTECTED]):

Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.465755 20388  220
host4.scbbs.com ESMTP?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.474061 20388  ehlo
localhost.localdomain?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.474962 20388 
250-host4.scbbs.com?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.475458 20388  250-PIPELINING?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.475921 20388  250 8BITMIME?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.502945 20388  mail
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.503854 20388  250 ok?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.556793 20388  rcpt
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.557763 20388  553 sorry, that
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.561415 20388  rset?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.562476 20388  250 flushed?
Dec 12 19:54:49 host4 smtpd: 1008215689.585977 20388  quit?

I don't know what I've done, configuration-wise, which is making the
system look for matching domain names in rcpthosts.  Here are the only
config changes I've made:

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'host4.scbbs.com'
# DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash!
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://host4.scbbs.com/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/pipermail'
PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private'

HOME_PAGE = 'index.html'
MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail'

Any suggestions, please?

Thanks.

-ron

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?

2001-12-13 Thread Skip Montanaro


marina We are running a list using Mailman 2, where most of the members
marina are totally computer illiterate, and cannot be bothered
marina understanding why or how to change their email settings.

marina As a result, this list digests include huge portions of HTML
marina coding - which is perceived as extremely annoying by several
marina users (including some who choose to use HTML mail, of course).

Can you just change your users' digest settings from plain to MIME digests
for them?  Can you make MIME digests the default option for people who
choose to read the digest version of your list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] attach file

2001-12-13 Thread John W Baxter

At 15:46 -0300 12/13/2001, Luciana Meneghel wrote:
How can I reject automaticly a message with attach file?
And How can I reject automaticly a message write in html?

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.008.htp

Why do I find it ironic that this query came with an attached .vcf file?  ;-)

  --John

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[Mailman-Users] posting mails are not reaching

2001-12-13 Thread Ganesh HariHaran
Title: posting mails are not reaching 




Dear all
 
I have configured Mailman.

 From the browser am able to subscribe to the list and i also get
acknowledgment/confirmation mail to appropriate mail id for
subscribing.

Later, after do a reply mail , i am unable to receive any mails from
the list.

Is it a technical or functional problem, how to solve it.
Thanks in advance
Ganeshh