Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation
You can also change some default parameters in mm_cfg.py, but listen to
Merlin's warning.
Output from Defaults.py :
# SUBSCRIBE POLICY
# 0 - open list (only when ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to 1) **
# 1 - confirmation required for subscribes
# 2 - admin approval required for subscribes
# 3 - both confirmation and admin approval required
#
# ** please do not choose option 0 if you are not allowing open
# subscribes (next variable)
DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 1
# does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions?
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 0
Marc MERLIN wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:13:57AM +1100, Joe Mizzi wrote:
How would i be able to subscribe users through the web interface without
having them reply to a confirmation email?
You can write a small CGI that calls
~mailman/bin/remove_members listname email
Of course, it then lets me unsubscribe you, but in some cases that's an
acceptable tradeoff
Marc
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Performance
I'm running mailman on a Compaq 450Mz Pentium II with 512Mb of memory. I started adding users by sending an email to the list-request and the email has about 50 names on it. I'm finding that Mailman is adding at max two people per minute. I'm wondering whether this machine may be too slow to serve as a mail exploder. Or possibly there may be some customizations or tweaking I can do to speed up the Mailman processing. Any thoughts! Thanks! Bruce Bruce W. Bodnyk Staff Engineer, CAE Development FCI Electronics 825 Old Trail Road Etters, PA 17319-9351 Phone: (717) 938-7543 Fax: (717) 938-7224 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to set up a read-only list?
Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I set up a read-only list? Sorry, it's a FAQ. Please browse the archive. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML mail and attachments
Maurice Lafleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to stop HTML mail and posts with attachments to reach mailing lists. How do I do this? stripmime = http://www.phred.org/~alex/stripmime.html demime = http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] stripmime and aliases
Hi every one, I am having the hardest time setting up stripmime. It is something you will (probably) find trivial, and it should be too, but I can't get it to work. I installed stripmime in /etc/local/bin, set the permission to 755, created a symlink in /etc/smrsh (called stripmime.pl) that points to /usr/local/bin/stripmime andfinally set the aliases as follows: ## test mailing list ## created: 18-Feb-2002 mailman test:|/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test test-admin: |/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test test-request:|/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test test-owner: test-admin I, of course, issued the newaliases command. If I send an HTML mail to the test it flows directly to the list unchanged. When I test stripmime.pl with an HTML mail at the console like: /usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl ugly-mail.html it comes out cleaned out by the script. Here's an except from maillog, showing that stripmime seems to be invoked: Feb 18 13:16:42 ommadawn sendmail[7471]: g1IIGSj07470: to=|/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:14, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=461547, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent So, fools me. I can't make sense of all this. Help please!! Regards, MGL Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, 100% better, and 100% yours! -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 09:20:08AM +, Hakon Brynildsen wrote: You can also change some default parameters in mm_cfg.py, but listen to Merlin's warning. Actually I read unsubscribe instead of subscribe. For open unsubscribes in mailman 2.0, you need a CGI gateway. For open subscribes, you should use the mailman setting here: # does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions? ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 0 Marc MERLIN wrote: Of course, it then lets me unsubscribe you, but in some cases that's an acceptable tradeoff Actually it's different. Open unsubscribes on the internet can be acceptable.' Open subscriber _never_ are. In other words, you should never have a list on the internet where people can subscribe other people against their weill. If you do, you can eventually get subscribed to the MAPS blacklist http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/3wayhandshake.txt Marc PS: add_members has a bug where if you feed it a list of members on the command line, it indeed doesn't work. You have to feed them via pipe and use -n - -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Messages stuck
We host multiple mailing lists. Last week we had a power outage and the server that mailman reside on went down. Since then no messages are being received by subscribers. They are getting posted to the mailing lists archives. I received the following from the serve reagrding one of the mailing lists. Anyone out there has any suggestions Your cron job on elvis /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/cron/run_queue produced the following output: Logging error: StampedLogger to '/usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp-failures' Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 55, in __get_f IOError: (24, 'Too many open files') Original log message: (24, 'Too many open files') -- Nancy M. Montano|| 224 Cruz Alta Rd, #F || Taos, NM 87571 Webmaster/Content Coord || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.laplaza.org La Plaza Telecommunity || [V] 505-758-1836 || [F] 505-751-1812 Aprender es avanzar -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Need help with footer strings.
I'm trying to change the footers on my mailing list but keep getting an invalid footer message. If I have a statement that's 20 words long, how should I enter the string? Sorry, I'm new at this, I don't understand the instructions and the guy who helped me with the installation of the list is out of town. Thanks -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Performance
Bodnyk, Bruce W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm running mailman on a Compaq 450Mz Pentium II with 512Mb of memory. I started adding users by sending an email to the list-request and the email has about 50 names on it. I'm finding that Mailman is adding at max two people per minute. I'm wondering whether this machine may be too slow to serve as a mail exploder. Or possibly there may be some customizations or tweaking I can do to speed up the Mailman processing. I built out a mailing list with 1800 members with bin/add_members, and it was slow to add them. I later found out the drag was due mostly to all the bounces that were coming back. (There were over two hundred dead addresses in that set.) Machine is a P3/550MHz with 512MB RAM, running NetBSD 1.5.1. It's only been a few days, but I have seen no performance problems with mailman delivery since. We're running postfix for the MTA. Cleaning out the dead addresses was critical. We average about 100 messages a day. My only real problem right now is trying to push 360MB worth of majordomo archives through pipermail without crashing pipermail. Morgan -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info!
Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info!
This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Thats a great idea. Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server and virtual website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to the localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I authenticated and went to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I told lynx to Always accept cookies so I know it's working. I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past archives but am finding nothing related to this exact problem. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Have you checked the rights of the install? Could the config.db of your test list be read only? That should spark errors in the ~mailman/logs/... Also are there any errors in the apache logs? Are you using NFS to mount any of the install? - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Thats a great idea. Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server and virtual website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to the localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I authenticated and went to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I told lynx to Always accept cookies so I know it's working. I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past archives but am finding nothing related to this exact problem. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked permissions to make sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his home directory. I even decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but that produced the same results. I can't imagine that there is something so drastically different from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't figure it out. Can anyone make any suggestions? I have gone through all of the web mailman logs and they are reporting no errors related to the mailman account or directories or permissions. It all appears perfectly correct. Please advise. -ted -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. Try deleting your mailman-generated cookies and emptying your cache(s). I am serving a list for a virtual domain. I've got apache and postfix set up to serve the domain properly, including http://domain.xxx/mailman and http://www.domain.xxx/mailman, and I've told the list to prefer that host name and to use http://www.domain.xxx/mailman for the base URL. When I tried accessing that URL using the real hostname, the cookies broke and I had to delete them and empty my cache. Let me know if you'd like anything from my config files. FWIW, I'm using Mozilla 0.9.8 on Linux. Morgan -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Well, I did look around the install and compared it to my other system's 2.0.6 install and it seemed very similar in the way the rights were set. The config.db file (in this particular list) is owned by nobody (which apache is running as) and group of mailman. In fact, I just checked and every file in the mailman home dir is either owned by the user or group of mailman. After my previous email to you, I even did something far fetched to make sure I could write to it. I made a copy of the mailman home dir (preserving permissions) and did a recursive chmod 777 against the original mailman directory. And then ran the website... it STILL didn't let me save info. I wouldn't think so otherwise but with results like that, I would think that it must be something outside of that directory. I deleted that directory and copied my backup dir back over it. I just don't have any ideas... I could reinstall it again.. but I'm not so sure that doing so would help me. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you checked the rights of the install? Could the config.db of your test list be read only? That should spark errors in the ~mailman/logs/... Also are there any errors in the apache logs? Are you using NFS to mount any of the install? - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Thats a great idea. Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server and virtual website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to the localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I authenticated and went to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I told lynx to Always accept cookies so I know it's working. I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past archives but am finding nothing related to this exact problem. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or info! Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year and it worked near flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked out. I've installed 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday. It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists.
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Hi Morgan. I may be interested in those files. I'd love to determine what I'm doing wrong with this setup though. I tried clearing both the cookies and the cache locally and I even restarted each of the browsers. That didn't work. So I booted up my linux workstation in my cube and launced Netscape there after I set my /etc/hosts file to point that hostname to that IP. That came up with the same problems. I should have known that it would considering that lynx on the list server's CLI did that too. I'm not sure what is stopping me. Especially considering that my version of 2.0.6 Mailman is on the very same version of linux (with different packages installed) as this new 2.0.8 install. I'll try some more things but I may write you to ask for those configurations if all else fails. -ted Quoting Morgan Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent some mails to them. So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to start to configure them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the problem started. I put in all the info and hit Submit Your Changes and it went to that next page as normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried non-useradd features and the same thing happened... nothing was saving! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. Try deleting your mailman-generated cookies and emptying your cache(s). I am serving a list for a virtual domain. I've got apache and postfix set up to serve the domain properly, including http://domain.xxx/mailman and http://www.domain.xxx/mailman, and I've told the list to prefer that host name and to use http://www.domain.xxx/mailman for the base URL. When I tried accessing that URL using the real hostname, the cookies broke and I had to delete them and empty my cache. Let me know if you'd like anything from my config files. FWIW, I'm using Mozilla 0.9.8 on Linux. Morgan -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Ted, as a matter of interest what happens to the permissions once the cron job runs - are they changed to the cron jobs permissions? (I would expect cron to be run as mailman:mailman) This may help me trouble shoot a problem I have been happening where the permissions are changing to be mail:mail (in my case) and thereby not allowing the webserver to access them. If the cookie problem is likely rember to restart your browser (or open a new one) these are sometimes loaded on program launch (MS IE anyway) and even if you have deleted the cookie this will be required. Cheers Scott On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Ted M Harapat wrote: Well, I did look around the install and compared it to my other system's 2.0.6 install and it seemed very similar in the way the rights were set. The config.db file (in this particular list) is owned by nobody (which apache is running as) and group of mailman. In fact, I just checked and every file in the mailman home dir is either owned by the user or group of mailman. After my previous email to you, I even did something far fetched to make sure I could write to it. I made a copy of the mailman home dir (preserving permissions) and did a recursive chmod 777 against the original mailman directory. And then ran the website... it STILL didn't let me save info. I wouldn't think so otherwise but with results like that, I would think that it must be something outside of that directory. I deleted that directory and copied my backup dir back over it. I just don't have any ideas... I could reinstall it again.. but I'm not so sure that doing so would help me. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you checked the rights of the install? Could the config.db of your test list be read only? That should spark errors in the ~mailman/logs/... Also are there any errors in the apache logs? Are you using NFS to mount any of the install? - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Thats a great idea. Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server and virtual website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to the localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I authenticated and went to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I told lynx to Always accept cookies so I know it's working. I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past archives but am finding nothing related to this exact problem. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter? Thanks. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question... Undoubtedly you are using Konqueror as your web browser. Konqueror cannot handle the new cookie layout (in version 2.0.8). Since it mis-reads the cookie, the authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect. Thus none of your changes are accepted. Use Netscape and your problems will be gone. Newer versions of IE have the same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web site with your Mailman install to Trusted. I have no idea why that works... except maybe it reads in the cookie without filtering it for
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Scott Spence wrote: as a matter of interest what happens to the permissions once the cron job runs - are they changed to the cron jobs permissions? (I would expect cron to be run as mailman:mailman) If your MM cron runs as the user mailman, it will retain the mailman permissions. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Hello Scott. So far, everything is keeping the mailman:mailman settings through all the cron jobs running (over the two days I've been working on this). The only other file permissions anywhere in the setup are the ones owned by nobody:mailman. I'm pretty sure thats because apache created them and their group was set by either the sticky bit or the SGID cgi files. I don't think whats happening to you is similar to what's happening to me. I'm sure you've heard this before, but make sure your cron is running the included cron jobs as mailman. -ted Quoting Scott Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ted, as a matter of interest what happens to the permissions once the cron job runs - are they changed to the cron jobs permissions? (I would expect cron to be run as mailman:mailman) This may help me trouble shoot a problem I have been happening where the permissions are changing to be mail:mail (in my case) and thereby not allowing the webserver to access them. If the cookie problem is likely rember to restart your browser (or open a new one) these are sometimes loaded on program launch (MS IE anyway) and even if you have deleted the cookie this will be required. Cheers Scott On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Ted M Harapat wrote: Well, I did look around the install and compared it to my other system's 2.0.6 install and it seemed very similar in the way the rights were set. The config.db file (in this particular list) is owned by nobody (which apache is running as) and group of mailman. In fact, I just checked and every file in the mailman home dir is either owned by the user or group of mailman. After my previous email to you, I even did something far fetched to make sure I could write to it. I made a copy of the mailman home dir (preserving permissions) and did a recursive chmod 777 against the original mailman directory. And then ran the website... it STILL didn't let me save info. I wouldn't think so otherwise but with results like that, I would think that it must be something outside of that directory. I deleted that directory and copied my backup dir back over it. I just don't have any ideas... I could reinstall it again.. but I'm not so sure that doing so would help me. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you checked the rights of the install? Could the config.db of your test list be read only? That should spark errors in the ~mailman/logs/... Also are there any errors in the apache logs? Are you using NFS to mount any of the install? - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Thats a great idea. Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server and virtual website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to the localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I authenticated and went to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I told lynx to Always accept cookies so I know it's working. I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past archives but am finding nothing related to this exact problem. -ted Quoting Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!) But, yes the virtual hosting could do you in. Is the web server configured to think it is the domain name you are using (to browse to it)? What happens when you access the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice way to troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)? Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Ted M Harapat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info! Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this. After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79 but the same thing happened. I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add. The hostname isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand new system thats about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set up my local hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh, and this is also a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I had to do that host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up. Could either of those two things matter?
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Hi Ashley, But according to Ted's posting his config.db had the nobody:mailman permission - not the mailman:mailman permission - so when the cron is run the permissions will change from nobody:mailman to mailman:mailman (rw-rw) right? To avoid this should the cron be run as nobody:nogroup - and the mailman group is retained resulting in nobody:mailman? Thanks for your help with this - I have nearly no hair left! Scott On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Scott Spence wrote: as a matter of interest what happens to the permissions once the cron job runs - are they changed to the cron jobs permissions? (I would expect cron to be run as mailman:mailman) If your MM cron runs as the user mailman, it will retain the mailman permissions. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. Scott Mobile: +34 65 337 8573 Fiona Mobile: +34 65 337 8574 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Support for filtering list postings thru external tools?
Hi, I have searched through the Mailman documentation and the source code for a way of invoking an external mail filter. My main interest is to integrate SpamAssassin (http://spamassassin.org/) into Mailman so that some/most spam mail will get held for approval. Has anybody done any work to add this functionality? I'm Python illiterate unfortunately, but I'm assuming that adding some extra configuration directives and an os.pipe() call in one of the Handlers would do the trick. Many thanks in advance, Warren -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailing list aliases
Hi, we would like to have one announce-only mailing list that could be referred to using two different names. The goal is to support a list with bilingual announcements where the list could be referenced by either language. Has anyone done something like this? Jim -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] modifying senddigest's behavior
How would I go about changing senddigest so that it would only compile and send a digest for only one of my digests, rather than all of them. Right now senddigest grabs all lists under $prefix/lists/ and checks for lists that are to be sent in digest format. I would like to something like: 30 12 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests //sends all except foo and bar 30 1 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/sendfoo //sends foo only 30 2 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/sendbar //sends bar only foo and bar would have 'Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't reached?' set to 'no'. Note: my knowledge of Python ~0 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] question
Will I be able to use Mailman with qmail? Do you know if it will allow us to generate HTML or text messages, based on the user's profile? ___ Catalina Escobar Development Gateway www.developmentgateway.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 202 473 2770 Fax: 202-522-7479 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] dumb question
Hi all, I'm pretty sure I know that answer to this, but I need to ask to be sure. Is it possible to run Mailman on one machine and the MTA (sendmail) on another? Thanks, -Larry -- Larry Kostmayer Imagine all the people, sharing all the world. -- John Lennon -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email?
I tried this several times and never got an email back. I've checked everything three times it seems like, but nothing seems to work to get it to send me help. Do you know another way I can find out the commands? Much appreciated, Ben - Original Message - From: Detlef Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email? Ben Kempner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where can I find documentation (or can anyone tell me?) on how to unsubscribe/subscribe people to my mailing list via emails instead of the web-interface? Send a mail to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address with the word help in to the body or subject. Only help. In the answer you get the instuctions. It's only for listmembers, not for listadmins. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://germany.keyserver.net/ Oo. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] dumb question
Larry Kostmayer wrote: I'm pretty sure I know that answer to this, but I need to ask to be sure. Is it possible to run Mailman on one machine and the MTA (sendmail) on another? It is, although this isn't necessarily a mailman setup issue, but more an MTA's issue. I have a specific server I use for outgoing messages and one for incoming: scanner mailman outgoing server server server All the machines are running an MTA, setup as follows: scanner server uses the MTA's internal forwarding to the mailman server for delivery. mailman server uses the MTA's smart relay to drop outgoing messages onto the outgoing server which then delivers to the world. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list aliases
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we would like to have one announce-only mailing list that could be referred to using two different names. The goal is to support a list with bilingual announcements where the list could be referenced by either language. Has anyone done something like this? You can create two aliases, pointing to the same list: test: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test test: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test test: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test check: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test check: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test check: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test Note though that the email being sent FROM the list will always reflect whatever the actual list name is. In the above case, that would be 'test'. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email?
Ben Kempner wrote: I tried this several times and never got an email back. I've checked everything three times it seems like, but nothing seems to work to get it to send me help. What happens when you send a message to list-request@host with 'help' in the subject? Help us help you. What error message(s) are you getting, if any. Check your MTA's logs, check mailman's logs. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will I be able to use Mailman with qmail? Do you know if it will allow us to generate HTML or text messages, based on the user's profile? There are README files specific to mailman+qmail in the distribution that you can read to help you set it up properly. As for text/plain or text/html, mailman currently doesn't make any effort in distinguishing these. So, if someone posts in text/plain ot text/html, the message will be delivered to everyone as such. Subscribers don't have control over how their messages are delivered (except for digests). -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Support for filtering list postings thru external tools?
Warren Toomey wrote: Has anybody done any work to add this functionality? I'm Python illiterate unfortunately, but I'm assuming that adding some extra configuration directives and an os.pipe() call in one of the Handlers would do the trick. Make life easier on yourself: don't tackle mailman, but tackle your MTA instead. I use MIMEDefang combined with SpamAssassin, hooked into my MTA. This gives me the advantage of being able to scan _everything_ that comes in to the machine, not only those destined for mailman. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Scott Spence wrote: But according to Ted's posting his config.db had the nobody:mailman permission - not the mailman:mailman permission - so when the cron is run the permissions will change from nobody:mailman to mailman:mailman (rw-rw) right? My crontask runs as mailman.mailman, however the webserver runs as httpd.daemon. Whenever something comes through over the web, config.db becomes httpd.mailman, however as soon as the next crontask runs, everything becomes mailman.mailman again. All the files ought to be owned by mailman.mailman, and the sticky bit should help in retaining the permissions even after the web server has changed. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email?
Ben Kempner wrote: I've tried both help just in the subject, just the body, both subject and message, as the admin, as user, nothing seems to work. I get no error message I just simply don't get an email. a) 'help' has to be in the subject b) it works as a subscribed user c) make sure the user can actually accept mail (nomail is not set) Mailman's logs don't have anything, It should record that it received an email and posted it to the wrapper. I'm not sure how to check my MTA's log... could you explain? Not knowing what MTA you're using, I can't do this. If you're using sendmail, look in /var/log/maillog. Lastly, is there any online documentation I could read and bookmark for future reference so I don't have to send an email everytime? There are... http://www.list.org -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Bouncing
Hi All Okay...sent my first message to my Mailman list today that was transferred from Topica...I had a bunch of bouncing members at Topica...but I added them anyway because I have heard that some of the free list servers bouncing routines don't work too wellanyway it has resulted in me getting quite a few bounce notices direct to my mailbox from the various members whose mailboxes are full! Isn't Mailman supposed to handle the bouncers for you? Why are they coming to me? Is there a setting that I can change...or is this something that I am going to have to deal with? TIA Paul -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] web archives not being updated
Hello everyone, I had mailman 2.0.8 up and running for a while and it was working well. I just installed a new mail system (courier) and had to recompile mailman to accept gid of 302 instead of 1. I reinstalled the executables for mailman, removed the original mailing list, recreated my mailing list and everything works except the web archives. The only error I can find in the logs are from qrunner, which is Feb 19 15:13:02 2002 (89) Could not acquire qrunner lock. Does anyone have an idea of what is wrong, or what to check? Thanks, Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Restricting posting to just the admin?
Is it possible to restrict to just the admin of a list? If so, what is the right combination of options ? using mailman 2.08 on RH 7.2 Mike -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
Sorry Ashley, May be I am missing something here: The sticky bit is on the group id so the group stays as mailman. -My webserver (apache) runs as nobody:nogroup -The config.db file has permissions -rw-rw (./ drwxrwsr-x) -mailman cron runs and changes nobody:mailman to mailman:mailman How can a webserver running as nobody:nogroup modify config.db once it becomes owned by mail:mail? .. it could (I suppose) if nobody somehow also run under group mail but this _can't_ be right. Or are there subtle things about the cgi scripts (SUID) that I do not know about when run with apache. Thanks for your help - I am determined to understand this. I did try your idea that all files should be owned by mail:mail and I just got the bug page (why has Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited?) and in the error file: Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/test/config.db' permissions on this file: -rw-rw1 mail mail *** Considering all the above I have found this in my /etc/fstab: # file system mount point type optionsdump pass /dev/hda5 /usrext2rw0 2 Should this be 'defaults'?--^^^ I am not an fstab expert but could THIS be my problem? the python executables likely reside here (as does apache) but not the mailman scripts - what do you think? perhaps defaults (that includes suid) may be a better option.. cheers scott On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Scott Spence wrote: But according to Ted's posting his config.db had the nobody:mailman permission - not the mailman:mailman permission - so when the cron is run the permissions will change from nobody:mailman to mailman:mailman (rw-rw) right? My crontask runs as mailman.mailman, however the webserver runs as httpd.daemon. Whenever something comes through over the web, config.db becomes httpd.mailman, however as soon as the next crontask runs, everything becomes mailman.mailman again. All the files ought to be owned by mailman.mailman, and the sticky bit should help in retaining the permissions even after the web server has changed. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. Scott Mobile: +34 65 337 8573 Fiona Mobile: +34 65 337 8574 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] send digest command
Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] A number of problems
Does anyone have suggestions for the following issues: 1. qrunner consistently complains about there being no disk space although there is plenty. 2. A moderated list we have is not sending notifications to the list administrator even though we have configured it to do so. 3. When messages are put into the archive the sender address is changed to listname@domainname. Any help greatly appreciated. Darran. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] send digest command
Always helps to help oneself and do a bit of reading. http://www.list.org/admins.html Cron scripts Mailman comes with a number of scripts that are typically only run by cron. However, it is generally okay for the site administrator to run these scripts manually, say to force a sending of accumulated digests, or to mail out member passwords, etc. You generally run these by invoking the Python executable on them, like so: % cd /home/mailman % python -S cron/senddigests The -S option is an optimization and (minor) security recommendation; it inhibits Python's implicit import site on initialization. Not all of these scripts support the --help option. Here is a brief description of what the cron scripts do: snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] send digest command Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] send digest command
Thank you and excuse me for my laziness. :( This suggests all lists. Can this be done on a per list or per user basis? Thank you once again! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. Quoting Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Always helps to help oneself and do a bit of reading. http://www.list.org/admins.html Cron scripts Mailman comes with a number of scripts that are typically only run by cron. However, it is generally okay for the site administrator to run these scripts manually, say to force a sending of accumulated digests, or to mail out member passwords, etc. You generally run these by invoking the Python executable on them, like so: % cd /home/mailman % python -S cron/senddigests The -S option is an optimization and (minor) security recommendation; it inhibits Python's implicit import site on initialization. Not all of these scripts support the --help option. Here is a brief description of what the cron scripts do: snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] send digest command Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
But, you see, I did use those cgi-gid and mail-gid flags: ./configure --with-mail-gid=8 --with-cgi-gid=65534 --prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-ownername=mail --with-ownergroup=mail --prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-username=mail --host=noggon.com --with-groupname=mail And, yes I just checked that 8 is the guid mail and 65534 is the guid nogroup. The mail:mail (not mailman:mailman) setup is due to following the exim with mailman howto (debian sets up exim to run as mail:mail NOT exim:exim). Quote (from mailman README.EXIM aka mailman exim howto): # home dir for mailman MAILMAN_HOME=/home/mailman # wrapper script for mailman MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/wrapper # user and group for mailman MAILMAN_UID=exim MAILMAN_GID=exim What do you think? This is why I have acted so desperate to look at the fstab file.. ~:-( - i.e. one hair left! scott On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Scott Spence wrote: How can a webserver running as nobody:nogroup modify config.db once it becomes owned by mail:mail? .. it could (I suppose) if nobody somehow also run under group mail but this _can't_ be right. Remember when you first configured mailman and compiled it? You were supposed to tell it what your cgi-gid is, and your mail-gid. This is where those two come into play. They play together, mailman allows the webserver to touch its files, and when done, reverts it back. I did try your idea that all files should be owned by mail:mail and I just got the bug page (why has Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited?) and in the error file: Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/test/config.db' Actually, the whole thing should be owned by mailman, not mail. After all, it's mailman that runs the cron tasks, and it's mailman that does all the processing of lists administrivia. Don't mess with your fstab. Unless you're prepared to yank a few more hairs out of your head. :) fstab is a system wide setting that doesn't affect (adversely enough) any function of how a program runs or doesn't. If fstab is setup to only allow read, or write on a device, you'd be having way more problems that just mailman not running. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. Scott Mobile: +34 65 337 8573 Fiona Mobile: +34 65 337 8574 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
