[Mailman-Users] How to debug about Can't deliver mail
dear all : My mailman can't work .. I can see the maillist archive, when i send mail to maillist But ,It can deliver mail to member this is my POST and SMTP log, somebody help me ... Billy D. Chang POST May 29 16:22:02 2002 (4484) post to rd from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1331, 1 failures May 29 16:22:03 2002 (4483) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1330, 1 failures May 29 16:22:03 2002 (4483) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1330, 1 failures May 29 16:22:03 2002 (4483) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1332, 1 failures May 29 16:22:03 2002 (4483) post to huperdvr from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1355, 1 failures May 29 16:22:03 2002 (4483) post to rd from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1331, 1 failures SMTP May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.004 seconds May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.004 seconds May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 29 16:21:03 2002 (4476) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.004 seconds -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail shell not available for mailman
I get about the same problem running redhat 7.2 sendmail 8.11.6 with mailman.b21 --- smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable --- has anyone solved this? - Original Message - From: E.J.L. Kemper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] error 126 But the strange thing is I think, that de installation procedure didn't build the wrapper file at all. Some-one from this list send me this file, but that didn't help. I did however change the error to this? --snip-- - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test (reason: service unavailable) (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test... Service unavailable snip- - Original Message - From: Ron Jarrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E.J.L. Kemper [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] error 126 At 12:23 AM 4/20/02 +0200, E.J.L. Kemper wrote: I am still stuck at the smrsh. I am getting error 126 send back to the email? - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test (reason: 126) - Transcript of session follows - /bin/sh: /usr/adm/sm.bin/wrapper: is a directory 554 5.3.0 |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test... unknown mailer error 126 sounds like you screwed up your smrsh config. if /usr/adm/sm.bin/wrapper is a directory, smrsh certainly cant exec it. It's not a mailman issue. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman the thing to use with a bignewsletter?
On 17 Sivan 5762, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm searching a software that gives me the ability to send my newsletter to nearly 240'000 recipents. My webserver is running Debian potato. I don't now weather mailman is the right software. I'd be very happy if you could tell me about your experiences. Make sure you read the FAQ about tuning your MTA. Also, use Woody's Python and Mailman packages - Potato's are extremely out of date. Or roll your own Mailman - but I would still recommend updating Python. Mailman is excellent for things like giving your users a web interface to subscribe and unsubscribe as well as a mail interface to do so. Compared to the other free (and many commercial) list servers out there, you will be glad you switched. You might want to take some time reading the archives of this list, and look for people's complaints - they will accustom you to Mailman's idiosyncrasies. For me it has been nothing but worth it (we have migrated lists from Majordomo at one site, and PMDF/Mailserv at the other). Also have a look at posts having to do with Mailman 2.1 beta. You might want to use that, or wait until it is released. It promises to be quite a good upgrade. -- Charles Sebold 18th of Sivan, 5762 LCMS - Office of Information Systemshttp://unix.ois.org/ *** Opinions expressed herein are not necessarily *** *** those of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Lists on listinfo page not showing up
Hi there, my lists are not shown on the listinfo page (no public lists available), although all my lists are configured as public (privacy options). On the first day, when I set up everything, it worked fine and they were all shown. From the second day on the listinfo page is empty saying there are no public lists. Any hint is appreciated. Dirk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists on listinfo page not showing up
Any hint is appreciated. Watch the capital letters in the domain name. http://Rauterkus.Com/mailman/listinfo/ -- shows lists http://rauterkus.com/mailman/listinfo/ -- hides lists Bug or Feature??? Ta. Mark Rauterkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://Rauterkus.com http://CLOH.Org Community Learning Outreach Hub -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Snafu'd config
I've just installed mailman, and have apparently configured something incorrectly. I've looked, but I'm just not seeing it. The welcome email sent to me by the system pointed me to http://whatever/mailman/admin/listname. I entered my password, and thes page opened fine. I made a few changes and hit the Submit Your Changes button. I'm then given the following: The requested URL /admin/listname was not found on this server. It should probably be pointing to /mailman/admin rather than /admin. Any ideas what I may have configured incorrectly? Thanks! -- steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Redundant headers in digests
I subscribe to the SA Talk list for SpamAssassin discussions in digest mode. When I receive a digest, it shows all the headers in every digested message. So I get loads of List-*, Resent-*, Content-Type, etc., etc. headers in each and every digested message. IMHO, Mailman should remove these from outgoing digests. Any takers? - Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman (2.0.11) + htdig integration - empty result page
At 16:20 29/05/2002 +0200, Zdenek Pizl wrote: Hallo, i am struggling with problem of empty result page while searching mailist archive. Do i have missing some templates or is there some hack to be done? with regards Z. P. Not a lot to go on in trying to determine what is causing your problem. First, there is no undocumented hack to getting the mailman-htdig patches working that I am aware of. Most of the hacking is documented in the $build/INSTALL.htdig-mm that the 444884 patch adds. I'll assume you got a list which has archiving turned on, has had posts to it since the integration patches were installed and archiving was turned on, and either you or cron have subsequently run the $prefix/cron/nightly_htdig script. As a consequence, I'll assume that the search form has been added to the TOC page for this list and its in response to completing and submitting that form that you are getting an empty page response. You do not say whether you've used htsearch other that via the Mailman list TOC forms and whether it has worked or not. No matter. One possible problem may be with your htdig installation. htsearch will try and use the various templates in htdig's COMMON_DIR as defined during installation of htdig (see http://www.htdig.org/htsearch.html) to render its response. It is possible that some problem in configuring or installing htdig may mean that htsearch cannot find the templates in htdig's COMMON_DIR and this is the cause of the problem. If this SWAG doesn't help then you'll need to supply a bit more information to help track down the problem. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman (2.0.11) + htdig integration - empty result page
At 17:49 29/05/2002 +0200, Zdenek Pizl wrote: Dne st 29. kvìten 2002 17:37 jste napsal(a): At 16:20 29/05/2002 +0200, Zdenek Pizl wrote: Hallo, i am struggling with problem of empty result page while searching mailist archive. Do i have missing some templates or is there some hack to be done? with regards Z. P. Not a lot to go on in trying to determine what is causing your problem. First, there is no undocumented hack to getting the mailman-htdig patches working that I am aware of. Most of the hacking is documented in the $build/INSTALL.htdig-mm that the 444884 patch adds. Thanks for your response. I managed it to work. I had to slightly modify /etc/htdig-mailman/archive.conf - common_dir and search_results_wrapper directives was added. I noticed that there was no newline character after the last line of directives (but i think that was my mistake). OK, everything is working fine. The only thing is that i have to create my own templates to suit mailman visual style ... thanks Z.P. Just a point of clarification. Are you using the Mailman-htdig integration patches 444879 and 444884 posted on sourceforge? If not ignore what follows. If so the way you describe as fixing the problem will not last. The link in htdig's CONFIG_DIR directory (looks like its /etc/htdig-mailman in your case) is a symbolic link to a directory in Mailman's file structures: $prefix/archives/htdig. This directory in turn contains one symbolic link per archived mailing list. These links point to $prefix/private/listname/htdig/listname.conf respectively, these being the per list htdig conf files. Each Mailman list has its own htdig configuration file which is automatically generated by the code added to Mailman when the first message is posted to that list after installation of the patch. [If you want to know why things are organized this way then think about dealing with the issue of security for private archives under search and the need to isolate list search indexes for lists from each other.] The way you have fixed the problem will only apply to the list whose htdig conf file you have edited. I doubt you want to have a career editing these htdig conf files as a new one is created for each new archived mailing list on your system. You really want to get at the root of your problem which is what is wrong with your htdig installation such that htsearch cannot find the default htdig COMMON_DIR. The ./configure and make install for htdig should have branded this information into the htsearch CGI program. For the sake of your future sanity I strongly suggest you take a hard look at your htdig installation and correct what has gone wrong. If you are really determined not to fix the htdig side of things then it is possible to change the code that generates the htdig conf files for the lists to try and compensate. If you want I'll point you in the direction of the source code to change but at that point you'll have to be your own support person for the revised code. I'll assume you got a list which has archiving turned on, has had posts to it since the integration patches were installed and archiving was turned on, and either you or cron have subsequently run the $prefix/cron/nightly_htdig script. As a consequence, I'll assume that the search form has been added to the TOC page for this list and its in response to completing and submitting that form that you are getting an empty page response. You do not say whether you've used htsearch other that via the Mailman list TOC forms and whether it has worked or not. No matter. One possible problem may be with your htdig installation. htsearch will try and use the various templates in htdig's COMMON_DIR as defined during installation of htdig (see http://www.htdig.org/htsearch.html) to render its response. It is possible that some problem in configuring or installing htdig may mean that htsearch cannot find the templates in htdig's COMMON_DIR and this is the cause of the problem. If this SWAG doesn't help then you'll need to supply a bit more information to help track down the problem. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe passwords
I can't seem to find anything but is there anyway to allow users to unsubscribe without having to use a password? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Redundant headers in digests
On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 20:56, J C Lawrence wrote: A MIME digest should contain unedited versions of the constituent messages. Why? That way it can be burst back into the discrete messages just as if the subscriber had received them that way in the first place (and is the way digests are and were intended to be used). Definitely. What is the situation for classic digests though. Nigel -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Redundant headers in digests
At 11:56 AM 5/29/02, J C Lawrence wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002 08:01:56 -0700 Bob Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I subscribe to the SA Talk list for SpamAssassin discussions in digest mode. When I receive a digest, it shows all the headers in every digested message. So I get loads of List-*, Resent-*, Content-Type, etc., etc. headers in each and every digested message. IMHO, Mailman should remove these from outgoing digests. Any takers? A MIME digest should contain unedited versions of the constituent messages. Why? That way it can be burst back into the discrete messages just as if the subscriber had received them that way in the first place (and is the way digests are and were intended to be used). Thanks for the explanation. I guess Eudora isn't handling these properly, then. I'll switch to a text digest. - Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] admin interface question
Can someone tell me where the verbage for the admin interface comes from? You know, where it says: Configuration Categories General Options Membership Management etc... and has the Description/Value table below depending on which page you're on... I'm trying to figure out a way to hide certain options so newbie listowners can't goof up their lists. Thanks in advance... Oh, I'm using version 2.0.10 -valerie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists on listinfo page not showing up
That's not my experience. http://TheRack.greybeard.org/mailman/listinfo and http://therack.greybeard.org/mailman/listinfo both give me the same page with the list information. [Mailman 2.0.8] Try it yourself. Bill W - Original Message - From: Mark Rauterkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dirk H. Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists on listinfo page not showing up Any hint is appreciated. Watch the capital letters in the domain name. http://Rauterkus.Com/mailman/listinfo/ -- shows lists http://rauterkus.com/mailman/listinfo/ -- hides lists Bug or Feature??? Ta. Mark Rauterkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://Rauterkus.com http://CLOH.Org Community Learning Outreach Hub -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] admin password reset
Howdy. I have looked through the various FAQs for this as well as searching via Google and looking through the various admin commands in the bin directory with no luck. If this is covered somewhere else, please let me know. I am wondering how one goes about resetting the password for a given mailing list *without* having to delete and start from scratch. config_list seems to have no password option available and the example password changing option for withlist (which I have made into its own script now), changes members but not a specific list. Any ideas or example code I can use with withlist? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Cheers -- - Island Net AMT Solutions Group Inc. Telephone: 250 383-0096 1412 Quadra Street Toll Free:1 800 331-3055 Victoria, B.C. Fax:250 383-6698 V8W 2L1 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Canada WWW: http://www.islandnet.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] changing subscriber options
Howdy. I have another seemingly should be common question that I have not been able to answer myself. I made the mistake of subscribing a bunch of users without setting them to receive mail as a digest. I don't want to un-subscribe and then re-add them as this will cause their passwords to be reset. Is there anyway to change options for a list per user? Is this something you can achieve using withlist or is there some other method that can be scripted? I really do not want to get carpel tunnel syndrome clicking a million times via the web interface. =) Any help appreciated. Ron -- - Island Net AMT Solutions Group Inc. Telephone: 250 383-0096 1412 Quadra Street Toll Free:1 800 331-3055 Victoria, B.C. Fax:250 383-6698 V8W 2L1 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Canada WWW: http://www.islandnet.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing subscriber options
On May 30, 2002 12:04 am, you wrote: You really need to take a look at Mailman's web UI. It does this and what you asked for in your previous message. That is simply not true for my problem with changing user settings. It may be true for the admin password now that I think of it since I can hopefully use the site password to log into the list and change it there (as long as this remembers scope properly and doesn't change my password instead of the lists). I do not think that this was covered in the manual however. As to my other question though. . . Mailman's web interface lets you make changes to users onesies twosies via one huge form with individual check boxes for every user (yuck). This means that for a list with more than a handful of subscribers you are doing one hell of a lot of clicking and submitting. In my case I am looking after the listbox itself and it is simply not reasonable to expect that I should have to click 1000+ checkboxes, another 34 clicks to go through each page, etc. times the number of lists on the box just to perform basic administration. Like I said, I do not want to get carpel tunnel syndrome just from performing standard mass administration duties in Mailman. I *know* pretty much for a fact that there should be a way to achieve this via withlist but as I am not sure what the specific properties are that need to be changed or how to reference their methods, I am asking for help here. So again, if anyone can suggest how to *from the command line* adjust list members options (so that it can be scripted), I would definitely appreciate it. Cheers, Ron -- - Island Net AMT Solutions Group Inc. Telephone: 250 383-0096 1412 Quadra Street Toll Free:1 800 331-3055 Victoria, B.C. Fax:250 383-6698 V8W 2L1 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Canada WWW: http://www.islandnet.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
Good evening, all, or good morning to those in distant time zones! I've been using Mailman for just shy of a week, with generally good results, but have run into a very strange problem as my configuration complexity has grown. I've been to the FAQ, the online docs, and numerous Google searches of the list archives, to no avail. I'm sure someone has seen this before, and I'm hoping you can help. The configuration is this: I am on a Linux server where I have root privileges but do not own the server. Because of this, I try to keep as many of my configurations as possible confined to my regular login, so as not to disrupt the rest of the functions of this machine. I have Mailman 2.1b2 (beta) installed in ~/mailman. By the way, I tried the stable version first and encountered this same (exactly!) problem, and went to the beta in hopes that it would be fixed -- so I don't think it's a beta bug. I own two domains and want to share one instance of Mailman between them. Call the domains d1.com and d2.net. Neither of these domains is the official domain in which the server lives. I read the docs on how to do this, got Mailman set up, and everything is working perfectly with the exception of the one issue. All through-the-web interfaces are working flawlessly, including the archives. Now, to avoid an intrusive bunch of changes to /etc/mail/virtusertable and /etc/aliases, I am setting up Mailman to use procmail for local routing within my own login. Here is the setup: /etc/mail/virtusertable: @d1.com local:mylogin @d2.net local:mylogin [EMAIL PROTECTED] local:mylogin In ~/.procmailrc: LOGFILE=/home/mylogin/Procmail/log :0: * ^TO_\/(mylogin|myotherlogin)@d1.com $DEFAULT :0fw * ^[EMAIL PROTECTED] |/home/mylogin/mailman/mail/mailman post staff :0fw * ^TO_staff-\/(owner|admin|bouncesand so on...|subscribe)@d2.net |M=`echo $MATCH | sed -e '[EMAIL PROTECTED]//'` /home/mylogin/mailman/mail/mailman $M staff Now, EVERYTHING is working great -- users can subscribe, post messages, list owner features and user features from web work fine. All messages go to the archives, just like clockwork. Everything works -- except that *I* get no mail from the list! I have tried sending mail to the list from several subscribed addresses, and it all goes through and posts to everyone but my two main addresses. Oddly enough, all regular inbound mail is caught by the first procmail rule and stays in my $DEFAULT folder as intended. I have verified this by temporarily putting another folder name in there. No errors in any of the SMTP logs, Mailman logs, or procmail logs. The procmail log shows a one-byte message being posted to my /var/spool/mail/mylogin mailbox. That's the only anomaly. Any ideas? Kind regards, Scott -- ---+-- Scott Courtney | I don't mind Microsoft making money. I mind them [EMAIL PROTECTED] | having a bad operating system.-- Linus Torvalds http://www.4th.com/| (The Rebel Code, NY Times, 21 February 1999) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] bcc problem
i have a number of lists on mailman and have been very happy. recently, though, the software has started holding messages for approval due to implicit destinations. the problem is that there are no implicit destinations (bcc) in the messages. on top of that, i am not receiving administrative notifications when the messages are held. has anyone else experienced something like this? River Brandon * t 207.439.9248 * http://unit-e.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Wed, 29 May 2002 21:42:13 -0400 Scott Courtney Scott Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, all, or good morning to those in distant time zones! snip Everything works -- except that *I* get no mail from the list! I have tried sending mail to the list from several subscribed addresses, and it all goes through and posts to everyone but my two main addresses. Oddly enough, all regular inbound mail is caught by the first procmail rule and stays in my $DEFAULT folder as intended. I have verified this by temporarily putting another folder name in there. No errors in any of the SMTP logs, Mailman logs, or procmail logs. The procmail log shows a one-byte message being posted to my /var/spool/mail/mylogin mailbox. That's the only anomaly. Any ideas? Kind regards, Scott Scott, I like checking the easy stuff first. Have you subscribed your two main addresses to the lists? Are those two addresses set to nomail? -- Raquel One of the greatest victories you can gain over someone is to beat him at politeness --Josh Billings -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py