[Mailman-Users] Lists still point to old install dir after upgrade

[Tarjei Huse]

Hi,

I just upgraded my server to rh 8.0. In the process I also upgraded 
mailman by copying over some dirs from /home/mailman to /var/mailman. 
I'm sorry, but I cannot remember which directories.However, I got 
mailman working :)

Now, some time later, I'm getting big trouble.
I got many messages in the queue that just stays there. I try running 
qrunner but that doesn't help. Also, the webinterface hangs when I try 
to make changes etc.

After som checking I find this in the log:
  /home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox [Errno 
2] No such file or directory: 
'/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'
Nov 18 09:14:01 2002 (31263) Delivery exception: [Errno 2] No such file 
or directory: '/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'
Nov 18 09:14:01 2002 (31263) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in 
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py", line 49, in process
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 189, in 
ArchiveMail
self.__archive_to_mbox(msg)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 159, in 
__archive_to_mbox
mbox = self.__archive_file(afn)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 149, in 
__archive_file
return Mailbox.Mailbox(open_ex(afn, "a+"))
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 601, in open_ex
fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'

So, how do I locate where this value (archivepath) is set up, and change it?

Please CC me offlist.

Yours,

Tarjei




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish: Spam by vacation notifications in Mailman

[Nigel Metheringham]

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 23:44, Jon Carnes wrote:
> The real culprit is the idiot who sets his filter to respond to all mail (as
> opposed to mail sent directly to them).  Even then a responsible person only
> send the message once in response to any one individual!

Unfortunately the new 2.1 personalisation stuff can fool mail filters
into thinking that mail is personally for their owner as opposed to list
mail.   However the agent should not IMNSHO be sending its replies to
the From: or Reply-To: addresses, but should send them to the envelope
sender address (although I know a couple of notables on this list do not
agree with this point - depending on whether you view an autoreply as a
form of bounce or as a delegated action by the agent owner).

My normal action is my normal reasoned level of pre-emptive
retaliation.  If autoreplies are coming to the list (which fortunately
so far has always caught them), or to list members then the address
causing the autoreply is removed from all my lists, a flame is sent, and
frequently the address and/or domain is added to my MTAs blacklist.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with big mail

[Richard Barrett]

At 22:00 17/11/2002, you wrote:

Hi

I am new in the mailman list server.

We got a few lists.

When some one sent big mail (>1MB) to one of the list,the list server 
looks like
stopped responding. Means doesn't send any mail out(receive OK.)

Is there any way we can stop this happening?

Lin

Setting the max_message_size parameter on the General Options page of the 
admin GUI for your lists would let you trap excessively large postings and 
reject them.

If that doesn't suit your needs, I think you will find the performance 
impact of large attachments to posts is reduced if you turn off archiving 
with MM's internal archiver for lists on which you allow large posts. If 
you absolutely must have large attachments and archiving for a list then 
you may need to use an external archiver, such as Mhonarc, for such lists.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Lists still point to old install dir afterupgrade

[Tarjei Huse]

Ups. Fixed it with this script: (taken from the faq. I included it for 
the archives :)
---
#!/bin/sh

newroot='/var/mailman'

for list in `ls $newroot/lists`
do
python -i $newroot/bin/withlist -l $list <
m.private_archive_file_dir
m.private_archive_file_dir='$newroot/archives/private/$list.mbox'
m.public_archive_file_dir
m.public_archive_file_dir='$newroot/archives/public'
m.archive_directory
m.archive_directory='$newroot/archives/private/$list'
m.Save()
EOF
done
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Tarjei Huse wrote:

Hi,

I just upgraded my server to rh 8.0. In the process I also upgraded
mailman by copying over some dirs from /home/mailman to /var/mailman.
I'm sorry, but I cannot remember which directories.However, I got
mailman working :)

Now, some time later, I'm getting big trouble.
I got many messages in the queue that just stays there. I try running
qrunner but that doesn't help. Also, the webinterface hangs when I try
to make changes etc.

After som checking I find this in the log:
  /home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox [Errno
2] No such file or directory:
'/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'
Nov 18 09:14:01 2002 (31263) Delivery exception: [Errno 2] No such file
or directory: '/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'
Nov 18 09:14:01 2002 (31263) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py", line 49, in process
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 189, in
ArchiveMail
self.__archive_to_mbox(msg)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 159, in
__archive_to_mbox
mbox = self.__archive_file(afn)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 149, in
__archive_file
return Mailbox.Mailbox(open_ex(afn, "a+"))
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 601, in open_ex
fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/home/mailman/archives/private/nnv-samf.mbox/nnv-samf.mbox'

So, how do I locate where this value (archivepath) is set up, and change
it?

Please CC me offlist.

Yours,

Tarjei




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[Mailman-Users] Running mailman and MTA on different machines

[Joseph Okech]

Hi All,

Is there a way of running mailman and the MTA (exim) on different machines, without 
ruuning it on NFS? has anyone ever implemented this?

regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Running mailman and MTA on different machines

[Jon Carnes]

You can do this just fine, but it becomes a bit ridiculous.  You have to
have an MTA on the server that is running Mailman (something has to
accept the mail, and something has to send it!).  And then you have to
replicate the local mailman aliases from the local server onto your main
mail server.

It does work fine, and I've set this up for folks who wanted a separate
internal server running Mailman, but used an external mail server for
all the corporate inbound mail.

Still, I setup the internal Mailman server to do its own outbound mail. 
Worked fine and didn't overload the existing systems.

On the mailman server, I wrote a script that replaced "newaliases" and
performed the functions of "newaliases" but also moved a copy out to the
external mailserver.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
===
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 11:18, Joseph Okech wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Is there a way of running mailman and the MTA (exim) on different machines, without 
>ruuning it on NFS? has anyone ever implemented this?
> 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Migrating setup?

[Fong, Anna]

Try these threads:
 





Anna Q. Fong, Webmaster 
California Data Exchange Center 

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:41 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [Mailman-Users] Migrating setup?
> 
> Well its time to retire my old box and move to a new one. Is there a
> migration document i have missed somewhere? I cant find anything useful?
> 
> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating setup?

[Jeffrey Oleander]

> At 2002-11-18 09:36:14 -0800 "Fong, Anna"  wrote:
>> At 2002-11-17 11:41 j2 wrote:
>> Well its time to retire my old box and move to a
new one. Is there a
>> migration document i have missed somewhere?
> 
> Try these threads:
>

>


And in the FAQ, there's this related thread:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.004.htp

I've a friend in the SF/Silicon Valley/bay area who 
would like to have someone move her Mailman managed 
list and provide hosting services.  Recommendations 
would be appreciated.

__
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site
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[Mailman-Users] Exception reading qfile

[Ed Santora]

Hello All:

I recently upgraded from version 2.0.11 to 2.1b4. It looks like messages 
are getting to Mailman, but are not being delivered to list members.

The only error I get is from logs/qrunner :

Nov 18 13:08:01 2002 (12808) Exception reading qfile: 
/opt/mailman/qfiles/in/1037637538.35893+aa5f56494e763d022c59ce9b0ededd028ba
b6eca
__init__() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (2 given)
Nov 18 13:08:01 2002 (12808) Exception reading qfile: 
/opt/mailman/qfiles/in/1037638766.937938+4e53c5dd7c59d18b196d71e391d72be56b
61a903
__init__() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (2 given)
Nov 18 13:08:01 2002 (12808) Exception reading qfile: 
/opt/mailman/qfiles/in/1037639204.777613+0bc5920be077dc79e67ad2bd58138bae34
002fe7
__init__() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (2 given)
Nov 18 13:08:01 2002 (12808) Exception reading qfile: 
/opt/mailman/qfiles/in/1037641786.593321+64c29a0b76d30316a537e408ffb724d9da
48ee23
__init__() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (2 given)
Nov 18 13:08:01 2002 (12808) Exception reading qfile: 
/opt/mailman/qfiles/in/1037642028.149452+05474aa8011065aedb4613a5bf50586798
0e8f62
__init__() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (2 given)


Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

-Ed

Ed Santora, System Administrator
Harvard University, Academic Computing
Division of Continuing Education
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[Mailman-Users] Migration questions (majordomo, MHonArc,Yahoo!Groups)

[Phillip L. Harbison]

I'm migrating from Majordomo and MHonArc to Mailman.  Is there
an easy way to convert MHonArc archives to Pipermail?  I have
found a perl script (mhn2mbox) that will convert MHonARC HTML
files back to UNIX mailbox format, but I was hoping for a more
direct approach.

Is there a web interface for searching the archives?  We are
using a perl CGI to search the existing archives.  I might be
able to hack that to work with Pipermail.

I have two lists that are currently hosted by Yahoo!Groups.  We
are tired of being bombarded by advertising and having beacons
track our activity.  I would like to host these locally using
Mailman.  One feature Mailman appears to be missing is means of
replying to a message, preferably with quoted text, using a web
interface.  Did I miss something?  Is free software available
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration questions (majordomo, MHonArc, Yahoo!Groups)

[Richard Barrett]

At 18:26 18/11/2002, Phillip L. Harbison wrote:

I'm migrating from Majordomo and MHonArc to Mailman.  Is there
an easy way to convert MHonArc archives to Pipermail?  I have
found a perl script (mhn2mbox) that will convert MHonARC HTML
files back to UNIX mailbox format, but I was hoping for a more
direct approach.

Is there a web interface for searching the archives?  We are
using a perl CGI to search the existing archives.  I might be
able to hack that to work with Pipermail.


See for info about search options at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.011.htp

I have two lists that are currently hosted by Yahoo!Groups.  We
are tired of being bombarded by advertising and having beacons
track our activity.  I would like to host these locally using
Mailman.  One feature Mailman appears to be missing is means of
replying to a message, preferably with quoted text, using a web
interface.  Did I miss something?  Is free software available
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration questions (majordomo, MHonArc,Yahoo!Groups)

[Arlen . P . Walker]

>I'm migrating from Majordomo and MHonArc to Mailman.  Is there
>an easy way to convert MHonArc archives to Pipermail?

Ok, this may be too elementary, but you *do* realize MHonarc works
perfectly well with Mailman, don't you? So the reason you want to switch
over to Pipermail is.?

Have fun,
Arlen
Chief Managing Director In Charge, Department of Redundancy Department
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[Mailman-Users] Restricted Posting Not Working

[Frederic Herman]

I am using vs 2.0.13.  I have set the privacy option: Restrict posting 
privilege to list members? (/member_posting_only/) to yes.

However, some spam is still getting through from  non-member senders.  I 
have examined the headers, and don't see how the posts are getting 
through to the held-for approval phase.

What should I be looking for?

TIA

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration questions (majordomo, MHonArc,Yahoo!Groups)

[Jon Carnes]

+1 on that!  Stick with MHonArc as your archive agent.

The only advantage of Pipermail over MHonArc is that it comes with
Mailman. MHonArch has many superior features that will probably never
make it into Pipermail (though MHonArch may one day be the archiver that
is included with Mailman...)

On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 14:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I'm migrating from Majordomo and MHonArc to Mailman.  Is there
> >an easy way to convert MHonArc archives to Pipermail?
> 
> Ok, this may be too elementary, but you *do* realize MHonarc works
> perfectly well with Mailman, don't you? So the reason you want to switch
> over to Pipermail is.?
> 
> Have fun,
> Arlen
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> DNRC 224
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration questions (majordomo, MHonArc,Yahoo!Groups)

[Dan Mick]

Has anyone ever figured out how to get MHonArc to painlessly do the 
daily/monthly/weekly stuff that Pipermail does (without standing on their 
hands creating custom cron stuff)?

That's the huge advantage Pipermail had over anything else I could find a 
year ago.

Jon Carnes wrote:

+1 on that!  Stick with MHonArc as your archive agent.

The only advantage of Pipermail over MHonArc is that it comes with
Mailman. MHonArch has many superior features that will probably never
make it into Pipermail (though MHonArch may one day be the archiver that
is included with Mailman...)

On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 14:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>I'm migrating from Majordomo and MHonArc to Mailman.  Is there
>>an easy way to convert MHonArc archives to Pipermail?
>
>Ok, this may be too elementary, but you *do* realize MHonarc works
>perfectly well with Mailman, don't you? So the reason you want to switch
>over to Pipermail is.?
>
>Have fun,
>Arlen
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Installation

[Bodnyk, Bruce W]

Hi!

I'm trying to get Mailman 2.0.13 running. I believe I followed the
installation
instructions correctly however the cron job that runs sends me the following
error messages. Any idea what I need to do to fix it.

Thanks
Bruce



>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 18 13:08:01 2002
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cronif [ -x /usr/sbin/exim -a -f
/etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:08:01 -0500

2002-11-18 13:08:01 18DpXz-0002Y7-00 Neither the system_aliases director nor
the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test


Bruce W. Bodnyk
Staff Engineer, CAE Development
FCI Electronics
825 Old Trail Road
Etters, PA 17319-9351

Phone: (717) 938-7543
Fax: (717) 938-7224
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[Mailman-Users] msg_header help

[Tim Crouch]

I am trying to configure the msg_header to include 
the recipients email address.  Is this possible?
 
I basically  want:
 
Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
If anyone can help, it would be greatly 
appreciated.
 
Tim Crouch
 
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