[Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M.
  Hi.

  I would like to configure a mailman list to accept post from anyone,
i. e., disable access control completely.

  Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
*everything*; the ML should be completely open.

   How can I configure this? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread John Buttery
* Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 13:20:20 +]:
   Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
 Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
 *everything*; the ML should be completely open.

  Not to be a sourpuss, but every mailing list I've ever been on that
did that, I unsubscribed from due to spam and viral attachments
eventually.  Just FYI...be careful.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Use the web-admin. Set the list to unmoderated and delete the list of
users allowed to post without moderation.

Also, take heed of the warning given to you by John Buttery.  He's
right.  If you don't front-end this list with some filters then it will
be abused.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:34, John Buttery wrote:
 * Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 13:20:20 +]:
Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
  Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
  *everything*; the ML should be completely open.
 
   Not to be a sourpuss, but every mailing list I've ever been on that
 did that, I unsubscribed from due to spam and viral attachments
 eventually.  Just FYI...be careful.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M.
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 13:34, John Buttery wrote:
 * Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 13:20:20 +]:
Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
  Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
  *everything*; the ML should be completely open.
 
   Not to be a sourpuss, but every mailing list I've ever been on that
 did that, I unsubscribed from due to spam and viral attachments
 eventually.  Just FYI...be careful.

  This is not a public mailing-list. It is private.
  To be more precise, what I want is to connect my private mailman ML to
another, public one. This is the scenario:
1. someone sends mail to the public list (which I don't manage);
2. the public list brodcasts the message, and since the private ML
address is subscribed to the public list, a copy of the message is sent
to the private ML address;
3. the private ML manager (mailman) receives the message; however, the
From: field is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so the message is help for
approval.

  So, I need to disable access control completely. However, if there's a
better alternative to solve this problem, I'm interested!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M.
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:03, Jon Carnes wrote:
 Use the web-admin. Set the list to unmoderated and delete the list of
 users allowed to post without moderation.

  I'm afraid I can't find that setting. Can you tell me what
configuration category it is in, and what the name of that setting is?
Thanks in advance.

 
 Also, take heed of the warning given to you by John Buttery.  He's
 right.  If you don't front-end this list with some filters then it will
 be abused.
 
 Good Luck - Jon Carnes
 
 On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:34, John Buttery wrote:
  * Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 13:20:20 +]:
 Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
   Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
   *everything*; the ML should be completely open.
  
Not to be a sourpuss, but every mailing list I've ever been on that
  did that, I unsubscribed from due to spam and viral attachments
  eventually.  Just FYI...be careful.
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Login to the Web-admin for your list, go to the Privacy Options:
 - Must post be approved by an administrator:   No
 - Restrict posting privilege to list members:  No

Good Luck,
 
Jon Carnes

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 09:56, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:03, Jon Carnes wrote:
  Use the web-admin. Set the list to unmoderated and delete the list of
  users allowed to post without moderation.
 
   I'm afraid I can't find that setting. Can you tell me what
 configuration category it is in, and what the name of that setting is?
 Thanks in advance.
 
  
  Also, take heed of the warning given to you by John Buttery.  He's
  right.  If you don't front-end this list with some filters then it will
  be abused.
  
  Good Luck - Jon Carnes
  
  On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:34, John Buttery wrote:
   * Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 13:20:20 +]:
  Right now, it only accepts messages from a restric list of senders.
Others are held for approval. I need to automatically accept
*everything*; the ML should be completely open.
   
 Not to be a sourpuss, but every mailing list I've ever been on that
   did that, I unsubscribed from due to spam and viral attachments
   eventually.  Just FYI...be careful.
   
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[Mailman-Users] mailman install problem..

2002-12-12 Thread

 I've installed mailman and tried to set up test list with admin's help, but
 got the following error and have not solved till now. :(

The original message was received at Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:59:11 +0900 (KST)
from blahblah

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
|/home/mailman-2.0.13/mail/wrapper mailcmd test
(reason: 1)
(expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

   - Transcript of session follows -
sh: /home/mailman-2.0.13/mail/wrapper: cannot execute
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1
 
 Why sendmail cannot execute wrapper?

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[Mailman-Users] Setting user options

2002-12-12 Thread Marshall Norris
I am trying to hide a newly added user to a Mailman list via command-line options.  I 
can do everything from command line except set the user options for the new user so 
that user is hidden from the list.  Anyone know of a way to do this?  Thanks!


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[Mailman-Users] wishlist addition

2002-12-12 Thread Jeff Stern
hi, i didn´t see this on http://mailman.sourceforge.net/todo.html but it 
would be nice if, with mailman´s archives pages (whether organized by 
thread, subject, or author, or date) the user were not limited to 
searching by month only.

for instance, on the mailman-based mailing list, ¨gimp-user¨, for the 
gnome ¨gimp¨ project (http://www.gimp.org), you can go to that mailing 
list´s archives, at http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/ . but 
if you want to do a search for the word, ´startup´ (such as discussions 
on the gimp startup options), you have to painstakingly click through 
searches on **1 month at a time**. (i would use the htdig search 
facility they added, but it is broken as of today).

for instance, i click on ¨View by Thread¨ under ¨December 2002¨. then 
getting to that month, i hit ¨Ctrl-F¨ in my browser to search through 
the message subject headers for my word. not finding it, i have to back 
out and choose november 2002. and so on, all the way back to november 
1997, when that list apparently started.

it would be nice if i could get in a single page a listing of subject 
headers for the full archive, from the web site, and be able to use my 
browser´s Ctrl-F search function on that single page. i realize for some 
lists it would be long, and with a simple warning, the user would be 
forewarned, and could continue if she/he wanted.

thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] compress full mbox files?

2002-12-12 Thread Karl Berry
Back on November 18, 2001, Jackie Meese asked about gzipping the full
mbox files in the mailman archive system:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg05253.htm
There was no answer that I could see.

Is there an answer?  The uncompressed file is many megabytes on active
lists.  This is not good either for disk space on the server, or for
people who want to download it.

I just want to do the usual thing of rotating it monthly or whatever.
It's obviously no problem to do the compression and rotation, leaving an
empty writable file behind for new messages.  The mailman-specific
problem is the html to access the archive.  Is editing the template in
Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py (and all the existing lists :() the only way?  

I'm still using mailman 2.0.13.  Will 2.1 offer any changes in this
regard?  (I looked around on the MM2.1 page, but didn't see anything
conclusive one way or the other.)

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] help needed: Operating system error message - no mail sent .... sigh

2002-12-12 Thread Carl Spies
Hi there

I'm running MailMan 2.0..13-3 (rpm) on Red Hat 7.2 with Sendmail 8.11.6-3

Keep getting the following errors:

Dec 10 09:01:53 panegyris sendmail[1469]: gBAH1r801468:
to=|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post neurons,
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (516/0), delay=00:00:00,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30311, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system
error
Dec 10 09:38:03 panegyris sendmail[1521]: gBAHc2k01520:
to=|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner neurons,
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (516/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=138379, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system
error

I've read the Main FAQ (especially 3.14.) and have confirmed that all is in
place and working - the alias' entry, the symbolic link to wrapper in smrsh
etc etc.

I'm puzzled - any ideas on the problem?

Get thsi error message mailed too:


   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post neurons
(reason: 1)
(expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

   - Transcript of session follows -
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /var/mailman/scripts/post, line 94, in ?
main()
  File /var/mailman/scripts/post, line 73, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 892, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 869, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/var/mailman/lists/neurons/config.db'
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] help needed: Operating system error message - no mail sent .... sigh

2002-12-12 Thread Carl Spies
Hi

I'm running MailMan 2.0..13-3 (rpm) on Red Hat 7.2 with Sendmail 8.11.6-3

Keep getting the following errors:

Dec 10 09:01:53 panegyris sendmail[1469]: gBAH1r801468:
to=|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post neurons,
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (516/0), delay=00:00:00,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30311, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system
error
Dec 10 09:38:03 panegyris sendmail[1521]: gBAHc2k01520:
to=|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner neurons,
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (516/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=138379, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system
error

I've read the Main FAQ (especially 3.14.) and have confirmed that all is in
place and working - the alias' entry, the symbolic link to wrapper in smrsh
etc etc.

I'm puzzled - any ideas on the problem?

Get thsi error message mailed too:


   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post neurons
(reason: 1)
(expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

   - Transcript of session follows -
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /var/mailman/scripts/post, line 94, in ?
main()
  File /var/mailman/scripts/post, line 73, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 892, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 869, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/var/mailman/lists/neurons/config.db'
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

Warm regards
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[Mailman-Users] not your father's MX loop

2002-12-12 Thread Jaz-Michael King
Hi, here's my problem, I hope someone has experienced the 
same or similar. I've combed through the archives and found 
nothing.

Mailman is supposed to deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

For some reason, mailman adds my domain, so the delivery 
is attempted for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Which, of course, gives me a loop error.

Here's a snip, email user names munged:

The original message was received at Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:54:57 -0700 (MST)
from ipro.us [161.58.192.48]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)

   - Transcript of session follows -
553 5.3.5 albanycty.com.ipro.us. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
553 5.3.5 dremscope.com.ipro.us. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
553 5.3.5 foltshome.com.ipro.us. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
553 5.3.5 niagracounty.com.ipro.us. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
553 5.3.5 1mcmc.com.ipro.us. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Local configuration error


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[Mailman-Users] Running Mailman on AIX 5L v5.1

2002-12-12 Thread Steve E Heineck




Hello,

I am working on a server consolidation of servers from SUN/Solaris V5.x to
IBM/AIX 5L v5.1.  Do you have any information on running Mailman on the AIX
operating system.  Any information you could provide would be of great
help.

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman wish list

2002-12-12 Thread Andy Seitz

For the wish list: 
It sure would be nice to be able to store and retrieve and have all the
list members addresses 
in the format of Real Name
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Would be a great convenience to have the auto responder return all the
mail that requires owner intervention without having to
manually reject the mail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hardware

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Barrett
At 15:15 12/12/2002, jsingh wrote:


Hi Everybody

   I needed some input as to what kind of hardware I should buy for my 
mailman project. We will be hosting about 7000 lists with approximately 
10-15 users in each list. If anyone is hosting the same or almost the 
same number of lists, I would like to know what kind of hardware and OS 
they are using for their lists. I figure the biggest issue is the MTA 
with all the virus checking.

Thanks

jack

How much traffic the lists are going to see, the size of postings to them, 
whether you  intend to maintain list archives on the machine, whether you 
plan on using the builtin pipermail archiver or an external archiver such 
as MHonArc are also pertinent issues. 


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[Mailman-Users] HELP: server name in admin messages

2002-12-12 Thread Marcelo Assis
Folks,

Hi!

i posted this question yesterday, but got absolutely no response, and since
we have our server currently stopped because of this, i will ask again to
see if any kindred spirit might be able to offer us a little help.

The problem is we have configured a virtual domain for mailman, reflecting
a hostname
pointing to the mailman machine. It now seems that mailman uses the machiens
primary name in the URL included in the mails it sends out (administrative
messages - subscribes, unsubscribes, etc).

Example:
Mailman is installed on a server www.domain1.com, but the lists should work
with www.domain2.com. The list is accepting requests on the
[EMAIL PROTECTED], BUT, all the admin messages are sent out with urls
pointing to www.domain1.com/mailman/etc.

How can we get the per list configured name there? How can we configure all
server messages to use the list domain instead of the other one???

We greatly appreciate any kind of help!

thanks in advance,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to accept posts from everyone?

2002-12-12 Thread John Buttery
  First of all, I'd like to say that this message really was sent to me,
and CCed to the list; this is not MailMan 2.1 personalization.

  Sorry, couldn't resist.  :)

* Gustavo J. A. M.  Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-12 14:25:37 +]:
   This is not a public mailing-list. It is private.
   To be more precise, what I want is to connect my private mailman ML to
 another, public one. This is the scenario:
   1. someone sends mail to the public list (which I don't manage);
   2. the public list brodcasts the message, and since the private ML
 address is subscribed to the public list, a copy of the message is sent
 to the private ML address;
   3. the private ML manager (mailman) receives the message; however, the
 From: field is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so the message is help for
 approval.
 
   So, I need to disable access control completely. However, if there's a
 better alternative to solve this problem, I'm interested!

  OK, this sounds much less menacing than what I was thinking.  This
is sort of a tricky situation, but what I personally would do is set
up some kind of filter.  Since you know that the only legitimate email
coming to the list (your private list) are list postings from the other
list, those should be easily identifiable by something like procmail
by matching the Sender: headers, any List-* headers, etc.  Just make a
filter that has a very restrictive ruleset that won't match anything
but a bona fide list posting from that other list, and drop everything
else on the floor.  (Hint: in addition to the usual procmail-fu, for
this case you can also pattern match in the Received: headers for the
list's SMTP server; since, again, ALL legit email is coming from the
same place.)

  Why don't you just get your users to subscribe themselves to the
original list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP: server name in admin messages

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Carnes
I assume you are using Mailman version 2.0.x... 
In the web admin under General options near the bottom, change the
website address to the virtual website address (but first make sure that
you can access the admin for the list using that virtual website
address!).

You really want to move over the the latest Beta release (soon to be
production): 2.1.6.  This version has much better handling of virtual
hosts.

Also, if you are using Sendmail, you should consider changing your MTA
over to Postfix which also makes handling virtual hosts much easier.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:36, Marcelo Assis wrote:
 Folks,
 
 Hi!
 
 i posted this question yesterday, but got absolutely no response, and since
 we have our server currently stopped because of this, i will ask again to
 see if any kindred spirit might be able to offer us a little help.
 
 The problem is we have configured a virtual domain for mailman, reflecting
 a hostname
 pointing to the mailman machine. It now seems that mailman uses the machiens
 primary name in the URL included in the mails it sends out (administrative
 messages - subscribes, unsubscribes, etc).
 
 Example:
 Mailman is installed on a server www.domain1.com, but the lists should work
 with www.domain2.com. The list is accepting requests on the
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], BUT, all the admin messages are sent out with urls
 pointing to www.domain1.com/mailman/etc.
 
 How can we get the per list configured name there? How can we configure all
 server messages to use the list domain instead of the other one???
 
 We greatly appreciate any kind of help!
 
 thanks in advance,
 
 marcelo
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem..

2002-12-12 Thread Matthew Davis
* Á¤ Çϳç ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  I've installed mailman and tried to set up test list with admin's help, but
  got the following error and have not solved till now. :(
 
 The original message was received at Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:59:11 +0900 (KST)
 from blahblah
 
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 |/home/mailman-2.0.13/mail/wrapper mailcmd test
 (reason: 1)
 (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
- Transcript of session follows -
 sh: /home/mailman-2.0.13/mail/wrapper: cannot execute
 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1
  
  Why sendmail cannot execute wrapper?
[snip]

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 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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[Mailman-Users] Re: HELP, PLEASE: server name in admin messages

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Have you added the virtual hosts in your ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
file?  If not, I would suggest that as a good first step.

You also might want to upgrade to the latest beta release (2.1.b6).

Good Luck - Jon.

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:39, Marcelo Assis wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:34 PM
 
 
  I assume you are using Mailman version 2.0.x...
 
 It's Mailman 2.1b3...
 
  Also, if you are using Sendmail, you should consider changing your MTA
  over to Postfix which also makes handling virtual hosts much easier.
 
 We're using Exim v3.36...
 
 Basically we can access everything by each virtual host name, but it
 seems that in Mailman we cannot switch wich hostname is included in
 the URLs that Mailman sends out in his email messages. Is that right,
 or should that work.
 
 We need to support at least 4 hostnames, so changing the primary
 machine hostname is not an option.
 
 Thanks for any input!
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:36, Marcelo Assis wrote:
   Folks,
  
   Hi!
  
   i posted this question yesterday, but got absolutely no response, and
 since
   we have our server currently stopped because of this, i will ask again
 to
   see if any kindred spirit might be able to offer us a little help.
  
   The problem is we have configured a virtual domain for mailman,
 reflecting
   a hostname
   pointing to the mailman machine. It now seems that mailman uses the
 machiens
   primary name in the URL included in the mails it sends out
 (administrative
   messages - subscribes, unsubscribes, etc).
  
   Example:
   Mailman is installed on a server www.domain1.com, but the lists should
 work
   with www.domain2.com. The list is accepting requests on the
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], BUT, all the admin messages are sent out with urls
   pointing to www.domain1.com/mailman/etc.
  
   How can we get the per list configured name there? How can we configure
 all
   server messages to use the list domain instead of the other one???
  
   We greatly appreciate any kind of help!
  
   thanks in advance,
  
   marcelo
  
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman wish list

2002-12-12 Thread Matthew Davis
* Andy Seitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 It sure would be nice to be able to store and retrieve and have all the 
 list members addresses
 in the format of Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED].

mailman 2.1 does this.  But mailman 2.0 does not.

 Would be a great convenience to have the auto responder return all the mail 
 that requires owner intervention without having to manually reject the 
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Not sure what you mean by this.  Could you be more specific?  Examples?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] wishlist addition

2002-12-12 Thread Matthew Davis
* Jeff Stern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 hi, i didn´t see this on http://mailman.sourceforge.net/todo.html but it 
 would be nice if, with mailman´s archives pages (whether organized by 
 thread, subject, or author, or date) the user were not limited to 
 searching by month only.

You have control over the archiving system.  Mailman saves all mail for the list in 
homedir/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox.  You can use an outside 
archiver (ie MHonArc) and customize how you would like to do the web archives.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1b5 bug?

2002-12-12 Thread Tim Crouch








I have created a list with 53,036 members. The good part  it populated in about
40 seconds. The problem  I tried
to remove_members a and
it has been running for 5 minutes and has not removed any. Anyone else see this?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: HELP, PLEASE: server name in admin messages

2002-12-12 Thread Raquel Rice
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:39:26 -0300
Marcelo Assis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:34 PM
 
 
  I assume you are using Mailman version 2.0.x...
 
 It's Mailman 2.1b3...
 
  Also, if you are using Sendmail, you should consider changing
  your MTA over to Postfix which also makes handling virtual hosts
  much easier.
 
 We're using Exim v3.36...
 
 Basically we can access everything by each virtual host name, but
 it seems that in Mailman we cannot switch wich hostname is
 included in the URLs that Mailman sends out in his email messages.
 Is that right, or should that work.
 
 We need to support at least 4 hostnames, so changing the primary
 machine hostname is not an option.
 
 Thanks for any input!
 

Have you read the information in Defaults.py?  Specifically the
information relating to virtual hosts and, You use
'add_virtualhost(urlqdn, emailfqdn)' to add new mappings.?

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[Fwd: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Exim problem]

2002-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resend in case anyone has any ideas.
Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mailman version 2.0.13
 Exim version 3.12
 Python version 2.1.3
 
 How can I tell Mailman to use the localhost of mydomain.net instead
 of machinename.mydomain.net? I've changed the DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and
 DEFAULT_URL to mydomain.net in the mm_cfg.py file, but it doesn't
 seem to have any affect.
 
 I've also changed the Host name this list prefers. and
 Base URL for Mailman web interface in the admin web page to be
 the mydomain.net, but that also seems to have no effect.
 
 Reason I'm asking: my isp is refusing to relay outbound messages with
 the localhost set to machinename.mydomain.net. It'll work with the
 localhost set to mydomain.net.
 
 How can I tell Mailman to use mydomain.net?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] wishlist addition

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Barrett
At 23:20 09/12/2002, Jeff Stern wrote:

hi, i didn´t see this on http://mailman.sourceforge.net/todo.html but it 
would be nice if, with mailman´s archives pages (whether organized by 
thread, subject, or author, or date) the user were not limited to 
searching by month only.

for instance, on the mailman-based mailing list, ¨gimp-user¨, for the 
gnome ¨gimp¨ project (http://www.gimp.org), you can go to that mailing 
list´s archives, at http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/ . but 
if you want to do a search for the word, ´startup´ (such as discussions on 
the gimp startup options), you have to painstakingly click through 
searches on **1 month at a time**. (i would use the htdig search facility 
they added, but it is broken as of today).


I've taken a quick look at the gimp lists and they appear to be using the 
Mailman-Htdig integration patches (#444879 and #444884) posted on sourceforge.

They also appear to have an installation or setup problem as the per list 
search indexes do not appear to be being rebuilt regularly with the 
relevant cron script and the htsearch cgi program is not able to find the 
per list search config file and indexes.

Were these problems not present you would be able to search the archives as 
you wish, courtesy of Htdig.

On the assumption that they have not noticed, I've emailed the list owner 
to advise them of the problems.

for instance, i click on ¨View by Thread¨ under ¨December 2002¨. then 
getting to that month, i hit ¨Ctrl-F¨ in my browser to search through the 
message subject headers for my word. not finding it, i have to back out 
and choose november 2002. and so on, all the way back to november 1997, 
when that list apparently started.

it would be nice if i could get in a single page a listing of subject 
headers for the full archive, from the web site, and be able to use my 
browser´s Ctrl-F search function on that single page. i realize for some 
lists it would be long, and with a simple warning, the user would be 
forewarned, and could continue if she/he wanted.

thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] PLS HELP! Problems logging into mailman lists as list admin...

2002-12-12 Thread Steve Rifkin
Hi!  I hope someone can help me.

I have recently upgraded from a working Mailman 2.0.8 to version 2.0.13.
While Mailman 2.0.8 worked great, v2.0.13 is not totally working for me.

Since the upgrade, I am having a problem with LIST ADMIN PASSWORD 
AUTHENTICATION via the web.

As a user subscribed to a list, I am able to (via the web interface) 
successfully log in with the user list password to the user list options page.

However, as the LIST ADMIN, any time I now log into the LIST ADMIN screen with 
the list admin password , I get authentication failed.

However, I CAN log into any list admin screen with the *site-wide* master 
mailman admin password.  I just cannot log into any list admin screens with 
the list-admin.

Once I get into a *list admin* screen with the *site-wide password*, if I 
change that specific list's LIST ADMIN password, and they try to login as the 
LIST ADMIN, I still get an Authentication failed error.

So, is this a bug of some sort in v 2.0.13?  I had no problems with 2.0.8.

Just a note too that I recently upgraded our Apache from 1.3.14 to 1.3.17.
Python is at 2.1   We tried Pyton 2.2.2, but we get dynlink errors (ELF) with 
2.2.2, so we dropped back to 2.1.

Again, and this is important, everything worked with mailman 2.0.8.  The 
upgrade to 2.0.13 has caused the problems with List Admin authentications via 
the web.  Site-wide mailman and user mailman password authentication works 
fine.

So, what could be happening?  Is there anyway for the site admin to see the 
list admin passwords to see what mailman thinks it has?

I considered downgrading back to Mailman 2.0.8, since that version had worked. 
 However, mailman will not let you downgrade.  When I try to re-install 2.0.8, 
it complains:

Downgrade detected, from version 0x2000df0 to version 0x20008f0
This is probably not safe.  Exiting..

So, I need to stay at 2.0.13.  How can I fix this bug with list admin 
passwords for this version?

Also, how does one change a list admin's password at the command line?  Or is 
it only possible via the web?

Thanks in advance!

Steve Rifkin 
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[Mailman-Users] Problems installing mailman on Solaris 8

2002-12-12 Thread Alex Heatley
Hi all,

We are attempting to install mailman on a solaris 8 box. We installed python via a 
package from sunfreeware.com and compiled and installed mailman from source. 

However when we try to access the admin script, we get the following error:
admin(11198): [- Traceback --]
admin(11198): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(11198):   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 80, in run_main
admin(11198): import Mailman.pythonlib.cgi
admin(11198):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/cgi.py, line 35, in ?
admin(11198): from StringIO import StringIO
admin(11198): ImportError: cannot import name StringIO
admin(11198): [- Python Information -]

which is a complete mystery to us, a web search and a search of the archives reveals 
that this problem has been reported before in 2001 but no solution was provided, just 
the question. 

Has anyone got a suggestion for how we can resolve this? What are we doing wrong?

Thanks


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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1b5 make syntax error?

2002-12-12 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 See end of enclosed dump for details.. Hints please?

 checking Python version... 2.2a1

You're running an alpha version of Python 2.2, so all bets are off
(no, it's not worth making configure check for this).

Upgrade to Python 2.2.2 and you should be fine.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! Getting different Import Error:python2.2/lib-dynload/_socket.so: bad ELF flags value: 256

2002-12-12 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
 SR == Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SR Anyone familiar with the error (we're running python 2.2.2 and
SR mailman 2.08):

SR admin(7162): ImportError: ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/python:
SR fatal: /usr/local/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload/_socket.so: bad
SR ELF flags value: 256

This can only mean that your Python installation is messed up.

-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce-only lists?

2002-12-12 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
 SB == Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SB Because faking the 'From' header is easy.

Faking everything about email is easy.
-Barry




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is this real? (Missing Password Message)

2002-12-12 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
 Tim == Tim  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tim One of my list managers forwarded the below to me and I've
Tim never seen anything like it before.  My question is: Is this
Tim a legitimate Mailman v2.0.8 message or is it a worm generated
Tim message (notice the To: undisclosed-recipients: ;)?  Note
Tim I've replaced the valid user address with x's

Tim User: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' List: elecraft

Tim lacks a password. Please notify the Mailman system manager at
Tim this site!

It's for real.  Earlier versions of Mailman could leave the user
database in an inconsistent state, where there's a record of the user
but no password registered for the user.  This is warning about that
state (I don't know why you got the undisclosed-recipients).

Off hand, the best way to solve the problem is probably to unsub the
addr and re-sub it.

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] how to remove all the pending messages?

2002-12-12 Thread Soon-Son Kwon
Hello, I am running mailman 1.1-10 on debian potato.

My problem is...there are too many mail messages
waiting for post approval because I configured the list
as member only to avoid spammers sending unnecessary mails
to the list but a lot of spammers have been trying to
send spam and I didn't remove them from the admin web interface 
for some time.

Does anyone know how to get rid of these pending message quickly?
(Not by manually clicking those buttons at the list admin page.)

Thanks very much
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[Mailman-Users] No messages going out under Mandrake 9 (AR_mini)

2002-12-12 Thread Amrik Randhawa
Hello,

I had mailman working on my old Mandrake system but have just done a fresh install of 
Mandrake 9 and 
can't get it going again.

Mail comes into my system just fine for regular users, however when I mail to the list 
no list subscribers get 
a message and there is no error message bounced back.  Here's my mail info log line:

Dec 13 01:57:33 list postfix/smtpd[11772]: connect from unknown[000.00.0.00]
Dec 13 01:57:33 list postfix/smtpd[11772]: B809464B41: client=unknown[000.00.0.00]
Dec 13 01:57:34 list postfix/cleanup[11773]: B809464B41: message-
id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dec 13 01:57:34 list postfix/nqmgr[11446]: B809464B41: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=467, nrcpt=1 
(queue active)
Dec 13 01:57:34 list postfix/smtpd[11772]: disconnect from unknown[209.68.2.48]
Dec 12 22:57:34 list postfix/local[11775]: B809464B41: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=local, delay=1, 
status=sent (|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test2)


** Note that I've replaced the IP that the message came from, from a valid address to 
all zeros, and I've 
replaced my real server name with a fake one, sorry.

Same thing occurs when I try to send an E-mail to subscribe to the list via. 
test2-request address, no 
message gets sent back, however when I do it by the web-based interface I get a 
message just fine.

Now this all has me thinking that there is something wrong with my aliases file, here 
are the lines for the list:


test2:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test2
test2-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test2
test2-request:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test2
test2-owner: test2-admin


My configuration:

Linux Mandrake 9.0
Mailman 2.0.13-3mdk
Installed mailman by RPM
MTA is Postfix

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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