[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.1.3 to 2.1.4 ?

2004-01-25 Thread Sasa Stupar
Hi!

What is the easiest way to upgrade to 2.1.4 from 2.1.3 ?

Sasa

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FW: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.1.3 to 2.1.4 ?

2004-01-25 Thread Remko Lodder
oeps, forgot this one again

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ew in your body tekst is a typo (:

I upgraded my ML by ./configure --$my-settings
make  make install..

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Hi!

What is the easiest way to upgrade to 2.1.4 from 2.1.3 ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.1.3 to 2.1.4 ?

2004-01-25 Thread Sasa Stupar
Didn't know it was so easy. Allready done it and it is working like a charm.

Thank you.

Sasa

Remko Lodder pravi:

ew in your body tekst is a typo (:

I upgraded my ML by ./configure --$my-settings
make  make install..
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Hi!

What is the easiest way to upgrade to 2.1.4 from 2.1.3 ?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Too Many Headers

2004-01-25 Thread Paul H Byerly
Dan Phillips wrote:
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On Jan 23, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Brad Knowles wrote:
   What version of Eudora has this problem?  I'm using Eudora 6, and
 while I have it configured to hide all List-* headers by default,
 when I click on the button to show all headers, the List-* headers
 are properly displayed, correctly highlighted, and will Do The Right
 Thing when you click on the highlighted portion
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Headers

2004-01-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:07 AM -0500 2004/01/24, Steve Burling wrote:

 There's a slightly easier (and more Mac-like :-) way to do this.  Follow
 step 1 to find the original application icon.  Then:
	Okay, I've been using Unix for about twenty years, and a Mac 
fanatic for the same length of time.  I've also been using MacOS X 
since 10.1.

	And you've taught me something new.  Cool.

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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe without a password

2004-01-25 Thread Brian Haines
I am very interested in the topic of configuring Mailman to allow
subscribe/unsubscribe requests without a password. From the archives Simon
White offered something of a solution and was willing to share it, but his
email was not in the message (as it should be).

I would be interested in Simon's or any other's solutions or thoughts on a
solution.

archive
If you make your own subscribe page which takes the email address and
adds it to a text file, you can schedule a task every night to read that
file and unsubscribe the addresses in it.

I have a version of this theory working on a server using PHP, a little
shell script, and cron.  Let me know if it's of any use to you.

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Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe without a password

2004-01-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 11:17:34PM -0500, Brian Haines wrote:
 I am very interested in the topic of configuring Mailman to allow
 subscribe/unsubscribe requests without a password. From the archives Simon
 White offered something of a solution and was willing to share it, but his
 email was not in the message (as it should be).
 
 I would be interested in Simon's or any other's solutions or thoughts on a
 solution.

~mailman/bin/add_members and ~mailman/bin/remove_members.  These require
privs.

You should be aware that there are morons out there that will try to
spam your lists with messages and probably fake subscribe/unsubscribe
messages. If you allow for an Internet-wide subscribe without
confirmation, you could easily be classified a spammer and end up on
blackhole lists.  You better know what you're doing before you dig into
this.  It isn't that hard for a user to subscribe or unsubscribe
themselves.  Admins, of course, can do it for them with the utilities I
listed above or via the web pages.

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[Mailman-Users] recovering from total loss

2004-01-25 Thread Abel Wisman
I'm trying to recover froma total server loss.
This means the lists are now re-setup on a new server adn the only form of
remaining backup are the personal mailfiles, containing all the lists files,
one user with 2 text based files of the list's archives and one with several
digest.

what is the easiest way, if any, to restore the archives, any idea or
shortcut will be welcome, we are talking several thousand emails here.

kind regards

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[Mailman-Users] 403 Forbidden error (problem resolved)

2004-01-25 Thread backdoc
I have been having problems getting access to my public archives from a 
browser.  I have been getting 403 Forbidden error accessing public 
archives errors.  This seems to be a particularly popular problem with 
many requests for advice, yet only few posts with helpful suggestions. 
Fortunately, I was able to piece them together to solve my problem.  In 
the past, I have received much help and advice (not to mention excellent 
software) from the good people at list.org and the people on the 
Mailman-Users mailing list.  So, I thought that I might be able to pay 
some of that generosity back by offering a short summary of what caused 
my problem and how I fixed it.  Either someone will be able to search 
the Mailman-Users archives and find this message or else someone more 
articulate and knowledgeable than me about Mailman could polish it up 
and find a place for it in the Mailman FAQ located at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all.

Symptom:  403 Forbidden error accessing public archives 

Platform:  FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE

Mailman Version:  Currently 2.1.3.  I first installed mailman about 2 
years ago.  So, this version has been upgraded and updated to 2.1.3. 
This was, I think, part of my problem.

Solution:

The first thing I did was navigate to the /usr/local/mailman/bin 
directory and run ./check_perms.  I found that not all of my 
permissions were set correctly.  So, I re-ran ./check_perms -f (for 
fix).  This fixed the permissions.  But, I still was being denied access.

The second step was to verify my settings were correct in Apache.  I 
played around with httpd.conf for a little.  But, nothing seemed to 
help.  Remember that if you modify httpd.conf that you need to restart 
Apache with apachectl restart for your changes to work.  It turns out 
that there was nothing wrong with my file.  Here is what I currently use:

 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

 Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
 AllowOverride None
 Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory
 Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/

Then, I stumbled upon a thread at 
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-June/029602.html 
that pointed me to the solution of my problem.  I was able to get access 
to my archives by making the following changes.

# ** The following line was added 
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
# ** The following line was replaced by the line after it.

# PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/pipermail'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
One thing that I might point out here is that you can put the above 
lines in mm_cfg.py literally.  You do not have to make substitutions for 
(hostname) and (listname).  Just copy and paste.  This is something 
that was not clear to me in the thread.  I often run into that issue 
when trying to follow online docs.  I thought it would be helpful to 
point it out.

* IMPORTANT **
After you make changes to your mm_cfg.py file, you need to run 
./withlist -l -r fix_url (your list name) on every existing list. 
Here, you do need to make substitutions for (your list name).  You can 
get a list of your lists with ./list_lists.  Also, you need to stop 
and restart Mailman with, mailmanctl restart.  It is possible that 
only certain changes to your mm_cfg.py necessitate the running of 
withlist and Mailman restart.  But, I don't see where it hurts to 
run them anyway (unless of course your want old lists to remain 
untouched and new lists to incorporate your changes).

Finally, this may shed some light on things for other FreeBSD users. 
Earlier I stated that part of my problem was due to the fact that 
Mailman has been upgraded on my system.  This is why I believe that. 
The PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL used to work the way it was (see above).  And, I 
noticed a few months back when I created a new mailing list that things 
like default paths and default email addresses didn't work on my new 
lists.  If I'm not mistaken, the old lists continued to work though.  I 
am just now associating the two problems.  Apparently, the jump from 
2.0.x to 2.1.x made some serious changes in how the mm_cfg.py file 
works.  I upgrade my system with portupgrade, and I rarely have any 
issues.  This time, the new requirements went unnoticed.

I hope this helps someone.

darren





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Re: [Mailman-Users] recovering from total loss

2004-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 23:24, Abel Wisman wrote:
 I'm trying to recover froma total server loss.
 This means the lists are now re-setup on a new server adn the only form of
 remaining backup are the personal mailfiles, containing all the lists files,
 one user with 2 text based files of the list's archives and one with several
 digest.
 
 what is the easiest way, if any, to restore the archives, any idea or
 shortcut will be welcome, we are talking several thousand emails here.
 
 kind regards
 
 abel
 

The archives are stored in an mbox format. If your email stores it's
files in that format, then your very close to having exactly what you
need.  If you need to move the mail over to an mbox format from an email
client, then you should consider bringing up an IMAP server on your
Mailman server - just long enough to transfer your local mail up to the
server (via your email clients IMAP connection).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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