[Mailman-Users] how i make recipients think they're not on a list?

[Dat Bui]

Hi,
we have a customer that doesn't want subscribers to think that they're on a list.
They want to do this because they think it'll be more personal. *shrugs*

when he sends to the list, I can see this in the (brief) header of Evolution;
 From: 
Brett McDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   To: 
'Rwip' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: 
FW:9th Test
 Date: 
Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:00:00 +1030


he's using M$ Outlook and this is what he sees;
 From: 
Brett McDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   To: 
'Rwip' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> by way of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: 
FW:9th Test
 Date: 
Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:00:00 +1030


I have two questions;
1. is it possible to make the To: field have the recepient address?
2. is there a way to get rid of the "by way of" in the To: field?

thanks in advance.
Dat

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[Mailman-Users] Editing administrivia trigger words. How?

[Aaron Anderson]

Where might be the file that contains these words?

Thanks!  Aaron Anderson   

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Re: [Mailman-Users] single list has ceased delivery and nothing in error log

[Tokio Kikuchi]

Hi,

michael dunston wrote:

A list that has been running for almost a year ceased delivery of
messages about a week ago, due to the 

'UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)' 

problem.  The last time this happened with a list I was able to manually
remove the offending message (in mailman/lists/THELIST/digest.mbox) and
run bin/unshunt but this time there is no digest.mbox file in the list
directory.  Is there somewhere else to look for the message causing this
error?  Where are messages queued when shunting 'sticks' a list?  
it's in qfiles/shunt

I have updated to 2.1.4, applied the scrubber.py.patch and run
bin/check_perms -f and bin/unshunt.  This list is still 'stuck' (not
delivering messages) yet there is nothing being logged in logs/error
anymore.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  THanks..
Do not forget bin/mailmanctl restart.
if it's not still in qfiles/shunt, then the message was processed.
(if it is sent to digest.mbox or archive, then it is not delivered)
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[Mailman-Users] single list has ceased delivery and nothing in error log

[michael dunston]

A list that has been running for almost a year ceased delivery of
messages about a week ago, due to the 

'UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)' 

problem.  The last time this happened with a list I was able to manually
remove the offending message (in mailman/lists/THELIST/digest.mbox) and
run bin/unshunt but this time there is no digest.mbox file in the list
directory.  Is there somewhere else to look for the message causing this
error?  Where are messages queued when shunting 'sticks' a list?  

I have updated to 2.1.4, applied the scrubber.py.patch and run
bin/check_perms -f and bin/unshunt.  This list is still 'stuck' (not
delivering messages) yet there is nothing being logged in logs/error
anymore.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  THanks..


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Re: [Mailman-Users] searchable archives

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 20:28, Richard D. Dover wrote:
> How do I set up searchable archives on my list like you have on
> your list?
> 
Find a port of Mailman that has the HTDig patches applied, or install
Mailman from source and apply the HTDig patches yourself.

I believe this is an FAQ.

Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] scrubbed html messages in archive

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 20:17, Richard D. Dover wrote:
> I want html messages to appear in the public archive. In other
> words I want a person to click on the link for a message and when
> it opens up it is in the original html format it was sent.
> 
> What do I need to do so that it is not 'scrubbed'?
> 
Use an external archiver like Mhonarc.

Pipermail is not yet up-to-snuff for that task.  It was originally meant
for text emails and hasn't been reworked to handle html as well as it
needs to (and yes its harder than it looks).

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Text Attachments

[Paul H Byerly]

Mike Phillips wrote:
> This question has been discussed at length, but I don't know if there
> ever was a definitive answer. Is there a way to cause MM not to send
> the nuisance text attachments that accompany HTML posts to the list?
> My server is 2.1.3.
 Forget about how, and think about if it's a good idea.  I do not have 
the negative opinion of html e-mail that some here have (although much of 
it is over the top and annoying), but I do realize that some folks won't 
read html e-mail, and at least a few CAN'T.  There are e-mail programs that 
only do plain text, and there are some who choose a program for that 
reason.  If you kill the text portion you exclude those users from you lists.

<>< Paul



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[Mailman-Users] searchable archives

[Richard D. Dover]

How do I set up searchable archives on my list like you have on
your list?


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[Mailman-Users] scrubbed html messages in archive

[Richard D. Dover]

I want html messages to appear in the public archive. In other
words I want a person to click on the link for a message and when
it opens up it is in the original html format it was sent.

What do I need to do so that it is not 'scrubbed'?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems resolving the hostname?

[Richard Barrett]

On 12 Feb 2004, at 21:21, Atkins, Brian wrote:

Greetings,

I am currently using Mailman 2.0.13, but I am in the process of 
performing a
fresh installation of 2.1.4 on RedHat 9.  I have the basics complete 
and I
am having difficulty with the configuration.  When accessing the cgi 
for
listinfo, etc, the hostname for the links is resolving to
'localhost.localdomain'.  I have the following set in mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '###MyHostName###'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '###MyHostName###'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
You may need to use $prefix/bin/fix_url.py to fix the email and web 
host related attributes of any existing lists if they were created 
before you set up you mm_cfg as you describe.

I tried various attempts to set DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST in
Defaults.py as well, but I am still having issues.  Any thoughts?  It's
probably something simple that I'm overlooking...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web admin interface not saving changes

[Todd]

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Paul O'Neill wrote:
>  we recently installed mailman version 2.1.4. Installation went fine
> until we tried to use the web interface to add members to the mailing
> lists that we created. After submitting the changes the lists were not
> updated with the new members. We then realised that although we could
> read all the settings we actually couldn't make any changes through the
> interface.
>
>  Everything  works fine using the /usr/local/mailman/bin tools we can
> add members, make changes to lists etc but we need to get the admin
> interface working so we can allow other users to maintain their lists.
>
>  We have ensured that we have cookies turned on etc. Nothing is logged
> in the mailman log files and apache shows nothing curious either. I've
> checked through the mailman lists and generally around google and seen a
> couple of other similar issues but nothing with a real resolution.

Are you doing any http redirects by chance?  That's one of the most
common reasons for the admin interface acting this way.

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[Mailman-Users] Web admin interface not saving changes

[Paul O'Neill]

Hi there

 we recently installed mailman version 2.1.4. Installation went fine
until we tried to use the web interface to add members to the mailing
lists that we created. After submitting the changes the lists were not
updated with the new members. We then realised that although we could
read all the settings we actually couldn't make any changes through the
interface.

 Everything  works fine using the /usr/local/mailman/bin tools we can
add members, make changes to lists etc but we need to get the admin
interface working so we can allow other users to maintain their lists.

 We have ensured that we have cookies turned on etc. Nothing is logged
in the mailman log files and apache shows nothing curious either. I've
checked through the mailman lists and generally around google and seen a
couple of other similar issues but nothing with a real resolution.

Thanks 

paul.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Two Dumb Questions (but are easy): Manual? & Mail Commands Won't Work

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. Is there a thorough manual on Mailman that I can download and print (so I
> won't have to ask dumb questions)?
> 
http://www.list.org/docs.html

> 2. My Mailman seems to be working fine except users aren't able to do the
> followingnothing happens when an e-mail is sent to (name is just a
> substitute for the URL). [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is this a setting needs
> correcting?

Assuming your lists are actually working and the aliases have been put
in the appropriate places the try:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   etc...


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[Mailman-Users] RE: Two Dumb Questions (but are easy): Manual? & Mail Commands Won't Work

[doug]

1. Is there a thorough manual on Mailman that I can download and print (so I
won't have to ask dumb questions)?

2. My Mailman seems to be working fine except users aren't able to do the
followingnothing happens when an e-mail is sent to (name is just a
substitute for the URL). [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is this a setting needs
correcting?


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[Mailman-Users] Archive Question

[Adam Lipson]

It has been ages since I have touched my mailman server and kudos go out
to those who wrote such a decent product for making it so stable, that
said in that it has been so long since I have touched it I forgot where
to look to learn how to import an mbox file into the archives and have
pipermail archive it.  I thought I saw that there is a newer archive
function in the latest release but I could be wrong.  I am on 2.1.2
using pipermail to archive and search the patches with htdig.

Thanks,
Adam

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending to subscribers

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 15:43, Peter Mees wrote:
> Am using mailman 2.1.1-4 on RH 9 with qmail.
> 
> Can subscribe users , and they receive subscription mail.
> 
> Users can perform administrative request mails and get answer.
> 
> But messages send to mailinglist are not delivered.
> 
>  
> 
> Please help , its driving me crazy
> 
>  
> 
> Peter Mees
> 
FAQ 3.1.4 may help, but qmail is it's own can of fish.
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems resolving the hostname?

[Steve Thomas]

On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 04:21:47PM -0500, Atkins, Brian is rumored to have said:
> 
> listinfo, etc, the hostname for the links is resolving to
> 'localhost.localdomain'.  I have the following set in mm_cfg.py:

Check to see what the ServerName directive in apache is set to. Also make sure that 
you've got the appropriate entries in /etc/hosts for your IP address.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: list too big - needs approval

[Thomas Hochstein]

"Craig Elkins" schrieb:

> i'm not too savvy with mailman so pardon my ignorance.  are there size
> contraints on emails?  

Depends on your configuration. See max_message_size on the general
options page.

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[Mailman-Users] Problems resolving the hostname?

[Atkins, Brian]

Greetings,

I am currently using Mailman 2.0.13, but I am in the process of performing a
fresh installation of 2.1.4 on RedHat 9.  I have the basics complete and I
am having difficulty with the configuration.  When accessing the cgi for
listinfo, etc, the hostname for the links is resolving to
'localhost.localdomain'.  I have the following set in mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '###MyHostName###' 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '###MyHostName###'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

I tried various attempts to set DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST in
Defaults.py as well, but I am still having issues.  Any thoughts?  It's
probably something simple that I'm overlooking...

Brian 

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[Mailman-Users] mailman not sending to subscribers

[Peter Mees]

Am using mailman 2.1.1-4 on RH 9 with qmail.

Can subscribe users , and they receive subscription mail.

Users can perform administrative request mails and get answer.

But messages send to mailinglist are not delivered.

 

Please help , its driving me crazy

 

Peter Mees

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the default archive pages

[Richard Barrett]

On 12 Feb 2004, at 16:06, Rodriguez Gomez Pedro wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to say that I also tried to put the files in  
"$prefix/archives/private/test" and it didn't work either.

Pedro Rodriguez Gomez

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From: Rodriguez Gomez Pedro
Sent: 12 February 2004 16:02
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Changing the default archive pages
Hi,

I am working with Mailman 2.1.3 and my problem is changing the "look  
and feel" of the Archive pages of every list in my system.

I know that there is a folder with default templates  
"$prefix/template//", and inside this folder the files  
"article.html", "archidxfoot.html", "archidxhead.html" , ... that  
contain the default "look and feel" of the archive pages. But if I  
copy (and then change) these files into  
"$prefix/lists/test/", being "test" a new list with no  
messages so far, and then I send a first message to the list, nothing  
happens, I mean nothing but the archives are generated as always. If I  
do the same proccess, but changing the files directly in  
"$prefix/template//" the result is the same.

Am I doing something wrong?

For performance reasons the templates are cached by the various  
qrunners while they are running. As a consquence you need to use  
mailmanctl restart after changing templates so that the qrunners will  
pick up the new versions from disk and incorporate them in to into  
their caches.

The following information quoted from $prefix/Mailman/Uils.py may be of  
use to you:


# When looking for a template in a specific language, there are 4  
places
# that are searched, in this order:
#
# 1. the list-specific language directory
#lists//
#
# 2. the domain-specific language directory
#templates//
#
# 3. the site-wide language directory
#templates/site/
#
# 4. the global default language directory
#templates/
#
# The first match found stops the search.  In this way, you can  
specialize
# templates at the desired level, or, if you use only the default
# templates, you don't need to change anything.  You should never  
modify
# files in the templates/ subdirectory, since Mailman will
# overwrite these when you upgrade.  That's what the templates/site
# language directories are for.
#
# A further complication is that the language to search for is  
determined
# by both the `lang' and `mlist' arguments.  The search order there  
is
# that if lang is given, then the 4 locations above are searched,
# substituting lang for .  If no match is found, and  
mlist is
# given, then the 4 locations are searched using the list's  
preferred
# language.  After that, the server default language is used for
# .  If that still doesn't yield a template, then the  
standard
# distribution's English language template is used as an ultimate
# fallback.  If that's missing you've got big problems. ;)
#


Note that you should not make changes to templates in the  
$prefix/Mailman/templates directory  as those changes will be lost when  
you next upgrade Mailman; put your changed templates under  
$prefix/templates/site/ if, for instance, you want them to apply to all  
lists on your server in place of the defaults.


Thanks,

Pedro Rodriguez Gomez

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Changing the default archive pages

[Rodriguez Gomez Pedro]

Thanks! it works now

Pedro Rodriguez Gomez

-Original Message-
From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 February 2004 16:32
To: Rodriguez Gomez Pedro
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the default archive pages


On 12 Feb 2004, at 16:06, Rodriguez Gomez Pedro wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot to say that I also tried to put the files in  
> "$prefix/archives/private/test" and it didn't work either.
>
> Pedro Rodriguez Gomez
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rodriguez Gomez Pedro
> Sent: 12 February 2004 16:02
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Changing the default archive pages
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am working with Mailman 2.1.3 and my problem is changing the "look  
> and feel" of the Archive pages of every list in my system.
>
> I know that there is a folder with default templates  
> "$prefix/template//", and inside this folder the files  
> "article.html", "archidxfoot.html", "archidxhead.html" , ... that  
> contain the default "look and feel" of the archive pages. But if I  
> copy (and then change) these files into  
> "$prefix/lists/test/", being "test" a new list with no  
> messages so far, and then I send a first message to the list, nothing  
> happens, I mean nothing but the archives are generated as always. If I  
> do the same proccess, but changing the files directly in  
> "$prefix/template//" the result is the same.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>

For performance reasons the templates are cached by the various  
qrunners while they are running. As a consquence you need to use  
mailmanctl restart after changing templates so that the qrunners will  
pick up the new versions from disk and incorporate them in to into  
their caches.

The following information quoted from $prefix/Mailman/Uils.py may be of  
use to you:


 # When looking for a template in a specific language, there are 4  
places
 # that are searched, in this order:
 #
 # 1. the list-specific language directory
 #lists//
 #
 # 2. the domain-specific language directory
 #templates//
 #
 # 3. the site-wide language directory
 #templates/site/
 #
 # 4. the global default language directory
 #templates/
 #
 # The first match found stops the search.  In this way, you can  
specialize
 # templates at the desired level, or, if you use only the default
 # templates, you don't need to change anything.  You should never  
modify
 # files in the templates/ subdirectory, since Mailman will
 # overwrite these when you upgrade.  That's what the templates/site
 # language directories are for.
 #
 # A further complication is that the language to search for is  
determined
 # by both the `lang' and `mlist' arguments.  The search order there  
is
 # that if lang is given, then the 4 locations above are searched,
 # substituting lang for .  If no match is found, and  
mlist is
 # given, then the 4 locations are searched using the list's  
preferred
 # language.  After that, the server default language is used for
 # .  If that still doesn't yield a template, then the  
standard
 # distribution's English language template is used as an ultimate
 # fallback.  If that's missing you've got big problems. ;)
 #


Note that you should not make changes to templates in the  
$prefix/Mailman/templates directory  as those changes will be lost when  
you next upgrade Mailman; put your changed templates under  
$prefix/templates/site/ if, for instance, you want them to apply to all  
lists on your server in place of the defaults.


> Thanks,
>
> Pedro Rodriguez Gomez
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] cascaded lists -- any tips?

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 09:27, martin f krafft wrote:
> I administer a set of cascaded lists, or umbrella lists, however you
> want to call them. The setup is something along the following lines:
> 
> A -> B, C, users
> B -> D, E, F
> C -> users
> D -> users
> E -> users
> F -> G, H, users
> G -> users
> H -> users
> 
> Even though I configured the umbrella_list settings accordingly,
> this setup is quite painful when it comes to moderation. I have
> things like require_explicit_destination with the appropriate
> acceptable_aliases turned on as well as maximum size protection and
> other content filter rules.
> 
> This works okay until someone posts a message to A, which is to be
> moderated. I accept the message for A, and then am asked to do the
> same for B and C, then for D, E, F and then for G, H. Thus, I have
> to visit the moderation interface 8 times for a single message.
> 
> I have already considered making A and F pure umbrella lists and
> then to take all restrictions off the umbrella lists, so as to have
> moderation only apply to the leaf lists, but in the case of a post
> to A, I'd still have to accept a message 7 times.
> 
> Is there no way to tell a child list to pass a message through when
> it has been accepted in a parent list?
> 
> I'd be interested how other people deal with this problem. I guess
> I could forget the hierarchy and simply use a database to do the
> management of list memberships for each member, but i'd be
> sacrificing some of the features (e.g. single archive for a group).
> 
> How can I deal with this problem?
> 
> Thanks,

With some moderate recoding, you could get this to work. Basically you
would change the code so that accepting a message setup a key that was
good for some time period.  Then any moderation for a list would look
for a key that basically allowed the message to pass.  In that way you
would approve the message once and then it would pass through all
subsequent lists.

Someone else did something quite similar awhile back with 2.0.x but the
details are lost in the fog of time.  Still it might be worth an archive
search.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] Changing the default archive pages

[Rodriguez Gomez Pedro]

Sorry, I forgot to say that I also tried to put the files in 
"$prefix/archives/private/test" and it didn't work either.

Pedro Rodriguez Gomez

-Original Message-
From: Rodriguez Gomez Pedro 
Sent: 12 February 2004 16:02
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Changing the default archive pages


Hi,

I am working with Mailman 2.1.3 and my problem is changing the "look and feel" of the 
Archive pages of every list in my system. 

I know that there is a folder with default templates "$prefix/template//", 
and inside this folder the files "article.html", "archidxfoot.html", 
"archidxhead.html" , ... that contain the default "look and feel" of the archive 
pages. But if I copy (and then change) these files into 
"$prefix/lists/test/", being "test" a new list with no messages so far, and 
then I send a first message to the list, nothing happens, I mean nothing but the 
archives are generated as always. If I do the same proccess, but changing the files 
directly in "$prefix/template//" the result is the same.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

Pedro Rodriguez Gomez


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Text Attachments

[Simon White]

12-Feb-04 at 11:08, Rick Pasotto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:15:03AM -0500, Mike Phillips wrote:
> > This question has been discussed at length, but I don't know if there
> > ever was a definitive answer. Is there a way to cause MM not to send
> > the nuisance text attachments that accompany HTML posts to the list?
> > My server is 2.1.3.
> 
> I beg your pardon! That text portion is the *only* portion of the email
> that I will read. Any email that arrives in my mailbox with nothing but
> html gets discarded unread. I doubt I am alone in this practice.

You can change MM to stop sending those "nuisance text attachments"
(sic) by changing the source, or using separate MIME processing, or
making the decision to switch off footers everywhere (you can do it).

Isn't this an FAQ? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounced Messages

[Jon Carnes]

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 08:59, Mike Phillips wrote:
> I just created a new mailing list with only 27 subscribers. While all 
> of the email addresses should be correct, how can I know TODAY whether 
> any of the messages are bouncing?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Phillips

Hay Mike, 

Just check the Mailman logs (you'll know which one to look in ;-)
  ~mailman/logs/..

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Text Attachments

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On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:15:03AM -0500, Mike Phillips wrote:
> This question has been discussed at length, but I don't know if there
> ever was a definitive answer. Is there a way to cause MM not to send
> the nuisance text attachments that accompany HTML posts to the list?
> My server is 2.1.3.

I beg your pardon! That text portion is the *only* portion of the email
that I will read. Any email that arrives in my mailbox with nothing but
html gets discarded unread. I doubt I am alone in this practice.

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[Mailman-Users] Changing the default archive pages

[Rodriguez Gomez Pedro]

Hi,

I am working with Mailman 2.1.3 and my problem is changing the "look and feel" of the 
Archive pages of every list in my system. 

I know that there is a folder with default templates "$prefix/template//", 
and inside this folder the files "article.html", "archidxfoot.html", 
"archidxhead.html" , ... that contain the default "look and feel" of the archive 
pages. But if I copy (and then change) these files into 
"$prefix/lists/test/", being "test" a new list with no messages so far, and 
then I send a first message to the list, nothing happens, I mean nothing but the 
archives are generated as always. If I do the same proccess, but changing the files 
directly in "$prefix/template//" the result is the same.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers & require_explicit_destination

[martin f krafft]

putting an address in accept_these_nonmembers does not allow this
person to Bcc a list when require_explicit_destination is on. this
is because member-checking is done before recipient checking.

is there a way to whitelist some posters to allow them to Bcc
a list? if not, how do i submit a feature request?

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[Mailman-Users] cascaded lists -- any tips?

[martin f krafft]

I administer a set of cascaded lists, or umbrella lists, however you
want to call them. The setup is something along the following lines:

A -> B, C, users
B -> D, E, F
C -> users
D -> users
E -> users
F -> G, H, users
G -> users
H -> users

Even though I configured the umbrella_list settings accordingly,
this setup is quite painful when it comes to moderation. I have
things like require_explicit_destination with the appropriate
acceptable_aliases turned on as well as maximum size protection and
other content filter rules.

This works okay until someone posts a message to A, which is to be
moderated. I accept the message for A, and then am asked to do the
same for B and C, then for D, E, F and then for G, H. Thus, I have
to visit the moderation interface 8 times for a single message.

I have already considered making A and F pure umbrella lists and
then to take all restrictions off the umbrella lists, so as to have
moderation only apply to the leaf lists, but in the case of a post
to A, I'd still have to accept a message 7 times.

Is there no way to tell a child list to pass a message through when
it has been accepted in a parent list?

I'd be interested how other people deal with this problem. I guess
I could forget the hierarchy and simply use a database to do the
management of list memberships for each member, but i'd be
sacrificing some of the features (e.g. single archive for a group).

How can I deal with this problem?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Text Attachments

[Mike Phillips]

This question has been discussed at length, but I don't know if there 
ever was a definitive answer. Is there a way to cause MM not to send 
the nuisance text attachments that accompany HTML posts to the list? My 
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[Mailman-Users] Discards

[Ralph Boersema]

Dear Folks,

I have an announce list that can only be posted to be the list admin. I
get a large volume of spam sent to the list. Is there some way I can set
it so that these will be discarded automatically and I don't have to
discard them manually?

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[Mailman-Users] Bounced Messages

[Mike Phillips]

I just created a new mailing list with only 27 subscribers. While all 
of the email addresses should be correct, how can I know TODAY whether 
any of the messages are bouncing?

Thanks,
Mike Phillips
Mills Law Firm, PLLC
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[Mailman-Users] Multiple Domain Names

[Mariano Wahlmann]

I'm trying to find out how to configure mailman for multiple domain,
my site has two domain names (@agro.uba.ar and @ifeva.edu.ar). 
People use sometimes one domain, and sometimes the other, i want
to know if is posible to set mailman for accept mails for both domains
without subscribing users twice (with each domain), because if i subscribe
with two domains, users get duplicate mails.

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OK! Re: [Mailman-Users] init.d mailman script problem in solaris

[javier]

i've create a new  a new bootup and shutdown action with webmin and all 
is ok now...

javier wrote:

I tried deleting 'restart' sentence of script, and if i make a stop 
and start all is being good... but if i make a init 6, two process of 
mailmanctl are executing...  Why

thanks!...

hi mates!
i have a problem with init.d mailman script in solaris 8 (mailman
2.1.3)...   i've just copied  _/scripts/mailman   into _/init.d,  and
click on the webmin Start at boot time flag ,  but when i reboot machine
(init 6) two /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s
-q start has executed, and i get two mailmanctl runnig with 9 qrunner
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[Mailman-Users] init.d mailman script problem in solaris

[javier]

I tried deleting 'restart' sentence of script, and if i make a stop and 
start all is being good... but if i make a init 6, two process of 
mailmanctl are executing...  Why

thanks!...

hi mates!
i have a problem with init.d mailman script in solaris 8 (mailman
2.1.3)...   i've just copied  _/scripts/mailman   into _/init.d,  and
click on the webmin Start at boot time flag ,  but when i reboot machine
(init 6) two /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s
-q start has executed, and i get two mailmanctl runnig with 9 qrunner
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[Mailman-Users] prevent empty mailing list postings

[David W Smith]

Hi,

I'm running mm 2.0.13 (Solaris 8) and 2.1.4 (Solaris 9) and recently a
posting went out to one of my large mailing lists but it was empty. The
sender did call say to warn me and ask if the posting could be stopped.
But by then it was already being sent out.

So I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to have mm block/trap empty
postings (and/or postings of a minimum size) and inform the mailman
administrator?

Thanks.

David Smith

Systems Administrator

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[Mailman-Users] Hit a bug in 2.1.4 - how to report (and fix) ?

[Bob Alexander]

When a user subscribes to the list abd BEFORE finishing the process (the 
confirm message or web page) they try to list the members, here is what 
they get (some data obscured with XXX for privacy reasons).

Thank you. Bob

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy 
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what 
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 97, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/roster.py", line 85, in main
password, addr)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 220, in 
WebAuthenticate
ok = self.CheckCookie(ac, user)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 300, in 
CheckCookie
ok = self.__checkone(c, authcontext, user)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 310, in 
__checkone
key, secret = self.AuthContextInfo(authcontext, user)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 105, in 
AuthContextInfo
secret = self.getMemberPassword(user)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 102, in 
getMemberPassword
raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
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Python information:
Variable	Value
sys.version	2.3.3 (#2, Jan 13 2004, 00:47:05) [GCC 3.3.3 20040110 
(prerelease) (Debian)]
sys.executable	/usr/bin/python
sys.prefix	/usr
sys.exec_prefix	/usr
sys.path	/usr
sys.platform	linux2

Environment variables:
Variable	Value
HTTP_REFERER 	http://.X./cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/test
SERVER_SOFTWARE 	Apache/1.3.29 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.3
SCRIPT_NAME 	/cgi-bin/mailman/roster
SERVER_SIGNATURE 	Apache/1.3.29 Server at .X. Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD 	POST
PATH_INFO 	/test
SERVER_PROTOCOL 	HTTP/1.0
QUERY_STRING 	
CONTENT_LENGTH 	109
HTTP_USER_AGENT 	Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
HTTP_COOKIE 
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[Mailman-Users] mailman bug

[martin f krafft]

ii  mailman2.1.4-1Powerful, web-based mailing list manager
ii  python2.3  2.3.3-5An interactive high-level object-oriented la

Hi there,

I would like to report a bug in mailman 2.1.4, which only surfaces,
when config_list is used to import a configuration file that sets
new_member_options (the value is irrelevant). If I comment out the
new_member_options line in the file, as exported by config_list,
everything works. However, if I leave the file unchanged and
reimport it right after the export, I get the attached error page
when I try to subscribe/confirm to the mailing list, or when I want
to view the general admin page.

Comments appreciated.

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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem,
please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with
a description of what happened.  Thanks!

Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 97, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 522, in show_results
form.AddItem(show_variables(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc))
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 531, in show_variables
options = mlist.GetConfigInfo(category, subcat)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 428, in GetConfigInfo
value = gui.GetConfigInfo(self, category, subcat)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/General.py", line 53, in GetConfigInfo
optvals = [mlist.new_member_options & bitfields[o] for o in OPTIONS]
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for &: 'list' and 'int'



Python information:


VariableValue

sys.version 2.3+ (#2, Aug 10 2003, 11:33:47) 
[GCC 3.3.1 (Debian)] 
sys.executable /usr/bin/python 
sys.prefix /usr 
sys.exec_prefix /usr 
sys.path /usr 
sys.platform linux2 

Environment variables:


VariableValue

 HTTP_X_FORWARDED_SERVER  ailab.ch 
 HTTP_REFERER  
https://ailab.ch/mailman/admin/libhid-cvs/gateway 
 SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache 
 SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin 
 SERVER_SIGNATURE   
 REQUEST_METHOD  GET 
 PATH_INFO  /libhid-cvs/general 
 SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1 
 QUERY_STRING   
 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET  ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 

 HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.12 (X11; Linux 
i686; U;) Gecko/20031028 Debian/1.2.12-0woody3 
 HTTP_CONNECTION  close 
 HTTP_COOKIE  
libhid+admin=28020069522e2b4073280063376339663664343065636138366637333064646661616339376335323535346663656165323038;
 
libhid-cvs+admin=28020069152f2b40732800343732323235383063376637353165393835316264616630316233663166626465393433;
 
all+admin=280200697a2f2b4073280033343162326130313834363237326562656465303432613064626139333965393738356163316633;
 sympa_altemails=listmaster%40lists.ailab.ch%3Aclassic%26066dd7b0; __ac_name="krafft" 

 SERVER_NAME  localhost 
 REMOTE_ADDR  127.0.0.1 
 PATH_TRANSLATED  
/usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/libhid-cvs/general 
 SERVER_PORT  8001 
 SERVER_ADDR  127.0.0.1 
 DOCUMENT_ROOT  /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman 
 PYTHONPATH  /var/lib/mailman 
 SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin 
 SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 SCRIPT_URI  
http://localhost:8001/mailman/admin/libhid-cvs/general 
 HTTP_HOST  localhost:8001 
 SCRIPT_URL  /mailman/admin/libhid-cvs/general 
 HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL  max-age=0 
 REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin/libhid-cvs/general 
 HTTP_ACCEPT  
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1
 
 GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1 
 HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR  80.219.169.230 
 REMOTE_PORT  40443 
 HTTP_X_FORWARDED_HOST  ailab.ch 
 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip,deflate 
 UNIQUE_ID  QCsxnn8AAAEAAFo9IIM 



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