[Mailman-Users] unsubscrible

2004-03-03 Thread eva barota
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie question

2004-03-03 Thread Jon Carnes
The aliases from Mailman point to an application.  So all mail going to
a list is handed to Mailman's posting application and the application
will either hold the post or pass it out to the list (depending on the
rules you have setup for the list).

HtH - Jon Carnes

On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 03:19, Key Dof wrote:
 Ok, but using the alias file, how will it stop the delivery to a list
 from an unsubscribed user?
 
 On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 17:53, Jon Carnes wrote:
  On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 09:12, Key Dof wrote:
   Thanks a lot for you reply, in fact my question wasn't about the
   possibility of being installed (as servers) but it's about the fact of
   interacting, ie: when an email arrives to the server, if it knows where
   to deliver it (a user or mailman).
   If you confirm that it can be done, i will install it and go reading the
   docs, but if it is impossible because it's either a user delivery or a
   mailing list delivery, than i will have to start installing another
   machine.
   Thanks again
   
  Mailman uses the aliases file. Each mailing list adds several aliases to
  the aliases file. The only real user you need to add to the machine is
  one that is specifically setup to run the applications.  The name of
  that user is normally mailman.
 


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[Mailman-Users] Bumped from the list

2004-03-03 Thread Thomas Carpentier
Mailman owner,

After a success subscription last week and reception of messages from 
the list for two or three days, I realized yesterday I was 
unsubscribed from the list without notice.

My assumption I was bouncing. If that's true, is it possible to tell 
us why we are bouncing. I can't fix the bounce if I don't know what's 
broke? Is it possible to get a warning before to be droped?

Regards

Thomas

N.B. My MTA is Coomunigate Pro

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[Mailman-Users] list-bounces address - how to change

2004-03-03 Thread Anne Shroeder - Internet Society
Every time a message is generated from mailman (e.g. when an autoresponder
is sent to a poster), the from address is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do I change that because it really is a misnomer - the message hasn't
bounced, it is merely an administrative message.

Anne Shroeder
Webmaster/Systems Administrator
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[Mailman-Users] Creating lists based on a template

2004-03-03 Thread Bowen, Robert
I have searched the list archives for an answer, but haven't had much
luck finding anything.  

I have multiple lists - one for each grade in our elementary schools,
one for each grade in our high schools and some other lists that have
for the most part the same attributes (Moderation on, don't send
password monthly, etc.)

Is there a way to setup one list and copy the attributes to my other
lists?  We don't have too many that I can't login to each one via the
web and make the settings, I just think I could save a lot of time doing
it the other way.

Thanks,
Robert Bowen
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virus in mailman tools

2004-03-03 Thread Richard Barrett
On 2 Mar 2004, at 02:35, hongmj wrote:

Dear sir,
 Thank you for your good production mailman. It's really 
wonderful.
 I download mailman-2.1.3, but my virus scan tools(officescan 793) 
report find a virus: 
mailman.tar.gz(mailman-2.1.3\tests\msgs\nimda.txt)   virus name: 
HTML_IFRMEXP.GEN.
 Is it really a common nimda virus or not? Maybe it infect virus 
when you zip the mailman. Could you please investigate it. And how 
about new version mailman-2.1.4?
 
It is always worth searching the list archives first. Searching for the 
word nimda returned a number of hits, including:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17450.html

Best regard!
your's truly hongmj


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot Find/Receive Bounce Messages

2004-03-03 Thread Lena
 From: Lloyd F. Tennison lloyd_tennison()whoever.com

 I am trying to review the bounce messages - as with the new
 SPAM blockers if you are not on the person's approved list
 you email may not go through. I cannot seem to get the
 bounce message that Mailman cannot process - with or
 without Mailman bounce processing on. I have tried setting to
 send the messages to the list owner, and have set the posting
 by non-members to be held and forwarded. I get one or two
 messages sent to the list admin, but when I turn off processing
 and purposely send to a non-existent address - I receive
 nothing back in either the master account for the domain, the
 list admin account or the posters account.
 I do have mailman set to use an explicit reply to address and
 that address does not receive the daemon messages either.
 What am I doing wrong?

Bounces go not to explicit reply-to, but to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you are a user of a web-hosting with cPanel (which uses Exim
and Mailman 2.1.3 changed by cPanel authors) then you can edit
/etc/valiases/DOMAIN  (for example /etc/valiases/example.com ).
That file is owned by your username, so you can overwrite it.
If you have shell (SSH) access and the web-hosting uses Linux
then you can use pico editor. If you haven't shell access then
upload two scripts to your public_html/cgi-bin/ and chmod them 755 or 700
(specify your userid and domainname instead of USERID and DOMAIN):

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$| = 1;
print Content-type: text/plain\n\n;
$| = 0;
open( STDERR, 'STDOUT' );
$_ = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'};
if ( m{[^\w\.\@/-]} or m{^home/USERID} or m{/\.\.?/} or m{^/} ) {
  print invalid parameter\n;
}
else {
  if ( open( IN, /$_ )) {
while ( IN ) {
  print;
}
close IN;
  }
  else {
print open failed: $!\n;
  }
}


#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$| = 1;
print Content-type: text/plain\n\n;
open( STDERR, 'STDOUT' );
$from = '/home/USERID/va';
$to = '/etc/valiases/DOMAIN';
if ( -e $from ) {
  print `cp $from $to`;
  print \ncp exit status: $?\n;
  if ( unlink $from ) {
print \ndeleted\n;
  }
  else {
print \nerror deleting\n;
  }
}
else {
  print doesn't exist\n;
}

Lets assume that your domain name is example.com and you named
these two scripts view.pl and replace.pl . Enter in a browser:
http://example.com/cgi-bin/view.pl?etc/valiases/example.com
then Save As, make an unedited copy,
in the line beginning from LISTNAME-bounces: replace all what
is after the colon and the blank by your email address, upload the edited
file to your FTP root directory under the name va, enter in a browser:
http://example.com/cgi-bin/replace.pl
After you finish experiments, upload unedited copy and again
invoke second script.

Since about February 22 cPanel several times regenerated LISTNAME-*@ aliases
(during cPanel updates?). If that practice continues then your changes
will be lost. So check from time to time (via SSH or by view.pl)
that your changes in  /etc/valiases/DOMAN  remain in effect.

Lena

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting unsubscribes notifications despite settings

2004-03-03 Thread Anne Ramey
I think what you are looking for is in the bounce processing section of 
the admin tool.  Scroll down to notifications.  Do you see what you 
need.  Those 3 options are set to no for me, and I'm still getting 
notifications.

Anne
On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:
If you figure it out - I think I have the same settings and WANT to
get the notifications and am not. (Mailman on hosting companies
server so I cannot check all those variables.) SO, if you do a screen
print (or pdf) of all the variables pers screen and I compare them to
mine - maybe I can figure out an answer for both of us.  Or I could
do a screen print and send the pdf's to you - either way.
From:   	Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copies to:  	To: 	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date sent:  	Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:19:33 -0500
Subject:	[Mailman-Users] Getting unsubscribes notifications 
despite settings

I'm having problems with a list that I just moved from one server to
another.  I tarred and zipped up the entire mailman directory
(preserving permissions) and moved it onto a new server.  I've done
this before without incident. Since then, it hasn't been behaving as
configured.  Last time we sent a list, a member responded and even
though the user moderator bit was checked/on, the mail was not 
held--it
went straight through to everyone.  I removed the list, recreated it,
then re-configured it, and am still having problems.  Now even though
mailman is not set to notify admin for unsubscribes (regular or 
bounce)
the owner is still getting notifications.
The notifications are coming from these addresses:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

These are some of the config variables:
anonymous_list = 0
first_strip_reply_to = 0
reply_goes_to_list = 0
umbrella_list = 0
umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner'
send_reminders = 0
send_welcome_msg = 0
send_goodbye_msg = 0
admin_immed_notify = 0
admin_notify_mchanges = 0
respond_to_post_requests = 1
emergency = 0
new_member_options = 0
subscribe_policy = 1
unsubscribe_policy = 0
default_member_moderation = 1
member_moderation_action = 0
generic_nonmember_action = 1
forward_auto_discards = 1
require_explicit_destination = 1
bounce_processing = 1
bounce_score_threshold = 1.0
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = 0
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = 0
bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = 0
I'm at a loss as to what might be wrong.  Please help.  We haven't
tried out another list because we want to be sure everything is 
working
correctly first.

Thanks,
Anne Ramey





Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problem

2004-03-03 Thread Jeetendra Mirchandani

ok, i got a work arround, but not able to create lists

i installed v2.1.4 atleast 5 times, to finally get it working

it showed a 404 not found error.
i had installed it in /home/mailman

but i found out from http logs that it was searching for
/var/mailman/cgi-bin

so now i created a link to /home/mailman as /var/mailman

now i created the first list mailman with a password say 'abcd'

then configured it with the default template

now i create a sitewide passwd using bin/mmsitepass say 'xyz'

now i can login at myserver.com/mailman/admin/mailman with both the
passwords


then i use the info in README to create a test list

i go to myserver.com/mailman/create

it shows me a form
i try to create lists, using both the above password, with same and
different emailaddresses as that of mailman owner, but it gives me an
error saying
Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists

though i am allowed to create a list using bin/newlist

now what should i do?

Regards,
Jeetu
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9820878028


On 2 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:

 On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:47, Jeetendra Mirchandani wrote:
  i get a 404 error
  my httpd.conf
  -
  ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
  Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin
Options ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
 
  /Directory
  
 
  please help
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Jeetu
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  The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.

 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

 See the FAQ.  You really need to provide much more information - at
 least the version of mailman you are running and how it was installed,
 and what OS you are running.  Without those basics, most folks will
 simply write you off as un-helpable.

 If you also include the basic troubleshooting steps that you have
 already gone through, then folks will actually think you are helpable
 and will try to give you clues.

 Where did you install Mailman? Is it installed in /home/mailman and does
 /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ in fact exist?

 Good Luck with your Second posting for help

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FOUND the RTFM

2004-03-03 Thread Charles Gregory

UPDATE: 
Now that I have the answers, I know what questions I should have asked:

1) Where are the README files - they are not on the www.list.org site!
   A: On RH9 they are in /usr/share/docs/mailman.

2) How do I configure HTTP to access the mailman GUI interface.
   A: On RH9 it is preconfigured - use http://www.site.tld/mailman
   (Note: You must configure the domain name URL and E-mail setup in
/var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py)

I searched the archives for this list and found further info on
configuring HTTP, and a copy of the README for integrating Mailman with
postfix. May I suggest adding this basic 'installation' info to the top of
the site administrator docs? 

Thansk!

- Charles

On 2 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 19:00, Charles Gregory wrote:
  Hallo!
  
  I'm trying to setup and run the standard mailman included with 
  Red Hat Linux 9. This is an 'RPM' install, so I don't have the
  source code files to read the 'README's. Supposedly, Mailman has an 
  easy to use web based interface/control panel? I would appreciate
  it if someone could help provide a link to a simple 'howto' for setting up
  the initial web interface on RH9/Postfix. Presumably once I've got *that*
  running, the site-admin pages should be fairly straight-forward.
  
  Please reply directly, I am not on any mailing list for mailman (yet).
  
  Thanks.
  
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Question regarding certain list properties

2004-03-03 Thread Scott R. Godin
Scott R. Godin wrote:

In between sending this and responding to the list manager it seems I got
temporarily refused to allow to post this, so on the off chance that it
actually did not make it to the list, I'm re-sending it. Apologies if this
actually DID manage to get posted twice, and thanks for all replies. 

 I have a client whom I am doing a website for. The hosting provider has no
 list management software installed (they run FreeBSD), but has given me
 the tentative OK to suggest a package if I can find one that suits my
 needs, and which they will install.
 
 First question is, If necessary, can it be installed and run solely from
 my client's $HOME if necessary, thus making the entire list package only
 available to my website client? If not, one presumes that vhosting clients
 can be enabled on an as-needed basis by the hosting provider.
 
 Secondly, my clients particular needs are small, but his wants are many:
 
o he wants to be able to post messages that every subscribed user
 receives (non-digested) immediately. (basically sales promotional, and new
 product announcements. that's it.) probably between one and five per
 month.
o no subscribed users will be allowed to post back to the _list_, only
to
 the reply address (which will be my client's [EMAIL PROTECTED] address,
 more or less). any attempts by a subscriber to post to the list will be
 sent to the list owner's address instead and will NOT be seen by the other
 members of the list.
o no subscriber on the list will see another subscriber's e-mail
address
 in any mail received from the list (i.e. in CC: or whatever).
o subscription will initially be via a web-based form, which will send
a
 confirmation e-mail to the address supplied, and require a response from
 the end user to the effect of yes this is me and I want to be subscribed
 before adding them to the list.
o any further list interaction by the subscriber will be via _e-mail
 only_ to subscribe/unsubscribe/temporary-disable-and-reenable themselves
 to/from the list. No additional web-interface is required.
o the list itself will be text-only. no html.
 
 Would all these options be configurable for a single vhosted client of a
 hosting-provider's server?
 
 How much of this will the hosting provider have to configure for us, and
 
 How much of it will we have to/be able to configure ourselves once we've
 been set up by the provider?
 
 Very interested in seeing discussion on this. This is my first foray into
 list management as a website kinda guy, so I'm totally unaware of what to
 expect and don't want to presume too much, so if my questions seem
 excessive, I plead utter complete spastic ignorance. For the most part,
 FAQ's rarely ever answer any of the questions *I* usually have, and I go
 read them later (although I've already looked and confirmed that they do
 not contain these answers, or else I misunderstood)
 
 I run red hat/fedora core at home and since this is bundled with Mailman,
 I figured you guys would be a good place to start my search for a list
 manager since I can play with it at home to test things.
 
 I look forward to your replies and hope my search ends here. :)


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[Mailman-Users] Move a message to a different mailing list?

2004-03-03 Thread Mike Burkett








I run several mailing lists for a group. Some moderated,
some open. 



Every once in a while someone will post a message to one of
the moderated groups (lets call it Announce) and it really belongs on the unmoderated
group (Discuss).



Is there any way to move a message that has been submitted,
and is waiting for moderator approval, to another list? 



Ive seen the forward option, but then
it looks like it is coming from the Mailman system instead of the original
poster.



-Mike










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[Mailman-Users] Mailman filter question

2004-03-03 Thread Kory Wheatley
How do I setup a global spam filter to discard any message, sent to a 
mailman mailing list, that has the subject that contains the words:
e-mail

I what to discard them all, and not put them on hold.
What would be the syntax in the mm_cfg.py file to do this.
I'm using mailman 2.1.4  with Postfix.
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[Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug! -- Please Help.

2004-03-03 Thread ricardo
Hi,

I'm getting this problem when attempting to enter the
private list archives via private.cgi and log in with a
subscriber's email and password. The login page comes up
fine, but once I input the email and password, I get the
error below.

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in
run_main
main()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/private.py, line
120, in main
password, username):
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line
226, in WebAuthenticate
print self.MakeCookie(ac, user)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line
233, in MakeCookie
raise ValueError
ValueError







Python information:
Variable Value 
sys.version 2.3+ (#1, Oct 2 2003, 23:03:59) [GCC 3.3.1 (SuSE
Linux)]  
sys.executable /usr/bin/python  
sys.prefix /usr  
sys.exec_prefix /usr  
sys.path /usr  
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[Mailman-Users] RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded

2004-03-03 Thread caleb t-r
Heya,

We are running Mailman 2.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.7, using sendmail 
and mhonarc as an external archiver. 

Every few weeks or so, the qrunner processes stop, leaving mailman locked. 

When I figure out that the lists have stopped running, I run mailmanctl -s 
start. But then a few weeks later, it happens again. 

I check the error log, and the last errors (some shunting, a recursion 
runtime error) happen a few hours before the most recent message to the 
list is sent.

The qfiles/shunt and locks/ directories are full of old stuff. Should I be 
cleaning these out somehow?

Any other hints? 

Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bumped from the list

2004-03-03 Thread Simon Parsons
On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 08:20, Thomas Carpentier wrote:
 Mailman owner,

 After a success subscription last week and reception of messages from
 the list for two or three days, I realized yesterday I was
 unsubscribed from the list without notice.

 My assumption I was bouncing. If that's true, is it possible to tell
 us why we are bouncing. I can't fix the bounce if I don't know what's
 broke? Is it possible to get a warning before to be droped?

 Regards

 Thomas

You think YOU have problems.  I unsubscribed from here in November 2003.  
Suddenly, on 1st March I start to get mail again.
Suspect something went pear-shaped in List Land.. 
Probably explains why you suddenly fell off-list at the same time.
Mayb we're on a pre-November backup??

For the time being I'll lurk and see what's been happening here since I 
left ;-)

Simon


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on one server, archives on another

2004-03-03 Thread Daniel Melnechuk
Dear Mailman Admins,

I would like to have mailman run on one server but have the archives 
(ie. the mailman/archives folder) deposited another server on the 
internet. Does anyone done this successfully  and how?

The reason is that the server that will run the list does not have a 
lot of disk space to allocate to archives.

Peace,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bumped from the list

2004-03-03 Thread Joshua Polterock
One more data point.

I too left the list sometime ago and found myself resubscribe
March 1.

Cheers,
Josh

On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:39:35PM -0500, Simon Parsons wrote:
 On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 08:20, Thomas Carpentier wrote:
  Mailman owner,
 
  After a success subscription last week and reception of messages from
  the list for two or three days, I realized yesterday I was
  unsubscribed from the list without notice.
 
  My assumption I was bouncing. If that's true, is it possible to tell
  us why we are bouncing. I can't fix the bounce if I don't know what's
  broke? Is it possible to get a warning before to be droped?
 
  Regards
 
  Thomas
 
 You think YOU have problems.  I unsubscribed from here in November 2003.  
 Suddenly, on 1st March I start to get mail again.
 Suspect something went pear-shaped in List Land.. 
 Probably explains why you suddenly fell off-list at the same time.
 Mayb we're on a pre-November backup??
 
 For the time being I'll lurk and see what's been happening here since I 
 left ;-)
 
 Simon
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] Tieing Mailman to Spamassassin

2004-03-03 Thread Rob Brandt
I have a new mailing list that will likely attract spammers.  I need to tie this
in to my spamassassin installation and am not quite sure how to go about doing
it.  Here's my situation:

My mail server configuration is postfix-courier-imap with mysql authentication. 
I use virtual domains in postfix, and to enable spam filtering I have maildrop
installed and use a maildrop filter to pass email to spamassassin for analysis.
 This allows me to do spam control on a per-domain basis.  If I want spam
control on a particular domain, I set the postfix transport to maildrop; if
not I set it to local.  It works well, but have never used it for mailing
lists.

I was hoping that I would be able to use the same method with this new mailman
list.  The domain is in fact dedicated to the mailing list, and no other email
will be routed through it.  To try it, I assigned the transport for that domain
to maildrop and created mail filter files for each of the mailman aliases. 
In the filter file for the actual mailing list, I put in the command to pass
the mail through to spamassassin.  It doesn't seem to work.  The email gets
processed through the list as if it hadn't been processed through spamassassin.
 I'm guess that this is exactly the case; that since the mailman aliases are
not real email accounts, the mailfilter files aren't even being looked at.

Am I wrong?  Or is there a better way to do this?

Thanks

Rob

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bumped from the list

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff D

I too realized today that the list had been awfully quiet for a few days.
Unusually quiet. When I tried to log into the list's web interface for my
account at python.org, it told me there was no such address subscribed to
the list !

Again, my lack of receiving messages started on or about March 1.

So, what the heck happened?

Jeff D




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Re: NDN: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bumped from the list

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff D

Oh great, now I am also getting bounce messages directly.

What the heck happened to this list in the last few days?

 Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:

 vanda282,OPS E-mail + (The name was not found at the remote site. Check
 that the name has been entered correctly.)






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[Mailman-Users] Archive - HTML - Line Display

2004-03-03 Thread Jeffrey M. Johnson








We have a program which sends a transcript of a chat session
to a mailing list.



If you view the archives of the chat list via the web
something interesting happens, or doesnt happen, to the test. There are
no wrapping of long sentences and paragraphs. For example



Please note that you are entering a co-browsing chat service. All information displayed on your browser will be in view of the librarian, and vice versa. To ensure your privacy, we advise you not to browse to any web pages that you do not want the librarian to see during this chat session.



Appears as a single line and you must scroll to the right to
read it on the screen. Is there a setting that I can use to force the word
wrap?





Thanks in advance 

Jeff






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[Mailman-Users] Global filter

2004-03-03 Thread Kory Wheatley
How do I setup a global spam filter to discard any message, sent to a 
mailman mailing list, that has the subject that contains the words:
e-mail

I what to discard them all, and not put them on hold.
What would be the syntax in the mm_cfg.py file to do this.
I'm using mailman 2.1.4  with Postfix.
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