[Mailman-Users] Mailman syslog

2004-04-07 Thread John Poltorak

Can I get Mailman to output msgs to syslog and if so how?

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[Mailman-Users] NLS not required

2004-04-07 Thread John Poltorak

Is there any way to build Mailman without NLS support or just support for 
a single language?


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[Mailman-Users] Retaining subscription confirmation messages

2004-04-07 Thread Mark Geisinger
Greetings!

Using Mailman 2.1.3 + Exim 4.30, I don't see a way to retain subscription
confirmation messages. I've found some discussion of matching date+time in MM's
subscribe log with the local MTA log as evidence of confirmation that includes
the originating IP, but that seems like a half measure.

Have I missed some aspect of MM that facilitates saving conformation messages?
If the capability doesn't exist, wouldn't it make sense to have MM do this?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Switching web hosts.... Transferring mailman mailing lists

2004-04-07 Thread Bruce Embrey
Hi,

The following commands helped me to do this:

bin/config_list -o filename listname
bin/list_members -o filename listname

These commands export to a text file the configuration settings for the
list and the members of the list. To import the settings into the new
list substitute -i for -o. To add the members use:

bin/add_members -wn -an -r filename listname

This will add them silently without sending notification of joining this
list. Checkout the help with each command for the available switches.

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mailing lists

Hi,

I am in the process of switching between web hosts and it suddenly dawn
on
me that I do not know how to transfer the existing mailing list user,
archives and settings to the new server.
Both servers are using MailMan for the implementation of mailing lists.

Can someone tell me how I can safely perform this transfer?

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 2, Issue 14

2004-04-07 Thread sean
Sorry but that doesn't help. My mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED], when I
send an email to it, it doesn't arrive. I don't know where it goes, it
doesn't arrive for authorisation and doesn't get returned to me.
Everything was ok until a couple of weeks ago

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email with URLS

2004-04-07 Thread Anne Ramey
You could use the personalization options.  Full Personalization under 
non-digest options and put your link in the header or footer, 
personalized.

Anne
On Apr 6, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
   We'd like to setup a mailing list that we can use to email our 
clients from time to time.  What I'd like to know is if I can, 
somehow, include a URL in the email body that has a unique ID that we 
can track when someone clicks on that URL.  Is there some way I can 
create a message with the URL in it, send it to the list, and have 
mailman append some ID to it somehow.

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[Mailman-Users] convert mailboxer to mailman?

2004-04-07 Thread mrmikeylee
I already have a mailboxer 3.2 setup at my site, and I'd like to convert the existing 
list archive to mailman.  Has anyone done this...any tips or suggestions?  Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread Paul H Byerly
 After reading up on mime types and making literally hundreds of 
tests, it seems that the Content filtering on
2.1.4 DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY.  Correct me if I'm wrong here - If I:

1) select yes for Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic 
according to the settings below?
2) leave the fields for both content matching boxes empty,
3) and select no for Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text?

 Should the results not be the VERY SAME as if I'd selected no for 
Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic according to the 
settings below?  There is no conversion, and both tests should be skipped 
because the fields are left blank.

 And yet, these two things DO NOT give the same results.  Can anyone 
tell me this is not a bug?

 Another case.  I turn filtering on, I have nothing in the remove 
matching field, and I have:

multipart
text
image
 In the remove not matching field.  So why do mails with html 
formatting and images come through with both the image and the html striped?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread texas critter
My cats chased butterflies as Paul H Byerly wrote:

   After reading up on mime types and making literally
 hundreds of tests, it seems that the Content filtering on
 2.1.4 DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY.  Correct me if
 I'm wrong here -

When you posted about this the other day, I did some brief tests with 2.1.3
and I got the same wrong results as you did.  So I guess it's a bug, and
it's in both versions.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread Jay S Curtis
Just a $.02 from a long-time mail list operator...
If you want filtering (for real) use postfix to pre-filter all of the 
incomming based on easy-to use plain text filtering systems
explained in detail on securitysage.com, then block all but plain text from 
your lists.

On Wednesday 07 April 2004 02:56 pm, texas critter wrote:
 My cats chased butterflies as Paul H Byerly wrote:
After reading up on mime types and making literally
  hundreds of tests, it seems that the Content filtering on
  2.1.4 DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY.  Correct me if
  I'm wrong here -

 When you posted about this the other day, I did some brief tests with 2.1.3
 and I got the same wrong results as you did.  So I guess it's a bug, and
 it's in both versions.

 hth,
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[Mailman-Users] Wrong host_name when creating list via webinterface

2004-04-07 Thread Dave Kliczbor
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Hello out there...

I just set up mailman on my Debian box, using the mailman 
2.1.4-2.backports.org debian package from backports.org.

Everything seems to be ok, except one tiny bit... If I create a new list 
via webinterface, the wrong hostname is used (namely 'domain.tld')-- if 
I create it via command line, the right hostname is used (namely 
'lists.domain.tld').
Nothing concerning my mailing lists is associated with 'domain.tld', 
everything, including web traffic, has to use 'lists.domain.tld'. As a 
result, I put 'lists.domain.tld' everywhere I could find before even 
starting mailman the very first time.

I dove a bit further in this issue, but all I could find was that the 
host_name config variable has been set inproperly when using the 
webinterface to create a list. I even used the deprecated 
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME variable in mm_cfg.py, but no result. I still have to 
manually set the host_name in the list option page after creating.

My mm_cfg.py:
- 
DEFAULT_URL   = 'https://lists.domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.domain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.domain.tld'
IMAGE_LOGOS   = '/images/mailman/'
USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0
DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.tld'
HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.tld'
MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/cgi-bin/mailman/private'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost('lists.domain.tld')
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cya
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread texas critter
My cats chased butterflies as Jay S Curtis wrote:

 Just a $.02 from a long-time mail list operator...
 If you want filtering (for real) use postfix to pre-filter all
 of the incomming based on easy-to use plain text filtering
 systems explained in detail on securitysage.com, then
 block all but plain text from your lists.

That helps if you're trying to block everything except plain text, right?
IIRC, Paul was trying to get Mailman to accept html posts but not
attachments.  He wasn't trying to block all but plain text (he knows how to
do that :)).

I'm not starting up the plain text vs. html argument, that's a very dead
horse.  No matter our personal opinions, there are valid reasons for
wanting to set your own lists to accept html posts and still not accept
attachments (I figure your lists, your rules, whatever floats your boat
:)).  The Mailman options make it appear that it ought to be possible to
configure a list to allow html but not attachments but doing that as Paul
and I have tried doesn't work.

hth,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread Richard Barrett
Paul

You are asserting that your tests show some problem exists but from a 
quick look at it, the code concerned is not obviously defective.

Regarding your first problem; without an example input message, the 
corresponding output message with one list configuration and the output 
message with the other list configuration that demonstrate the fault it 
is difficult to see how to help identify the source of the problem you 
believe you are seeing.

Same comment regarding your second problem.

Why not post a bug report on sourceforge and attach a .tar.gz 
containing the test case messages that demonstrate the fault you 
believe exists.  Some kind soul might then be able to help identify and 
correct the problem you assert exists.

Richard

On 7 Apr 2004, at 19:24, Paul H Byerly wrote:

 After reading up on mime types and making literally hundreds of 
tests, it seems that the Content filtering on
2.1.4 DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY.  Correct me if I'm wrong here - If I:

1) select yes for Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic 
according to the settings below?
2) leave the fields for both content matching boxes empty,
3) and select no for Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain 
text?

 Should the results not be the VERY SAME as if I'd selected no for 
Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic according to the 
settings below?  There is no conversion, and both tests should be 
skipped because the fields are left blank.

 And yet, these two things DO NOT give the same results.  Can 
anyone tell me this is not a bug?

 Another case.  I turn filtering on, I have nothing in the remove 
matching field, and I have:

multipart
text
image
 In the remove not matching field.  So why do mails with html 
formatting and images come through with both the image and the html 
striped?

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[Mailman-Users] Replying to owner notifcation not working

2004-04-07 Thread LuKreme
when I get a message from one of my mailing lists saying that ListA 
post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires approval it says in the message 
body:

   If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
spam
trouble is, when I do this the message is NOT discarded, I simply get 
the message I replied to delivered to me as the list owner.

Mailman 2.1.3

from maillog:

to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=4, status=sent 
(|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner listA)

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[Mailman-Users] Placing the confirmation string in email body instead of the Subject

2004-04-07 Thread Subha Subramanian
Hi,
 
 I was wondering if you could tell me which file to edit to make
mailman parse the whole email.

I think in the Utils.py file, around line 518 , it checks against the default number 
of lines. 

if linecnt  mm_cfg.DEFAULT_MAIL_COMMANDS_MAX_LINES:

Any idea where I can find this?

-Subha

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Placing the confirmation string in email bodyinstead of the Subject

2004-04-07 Thread Subha Subramanian
Sorry, I think its the line that says 
 
# Look at the first N lines and see if there is any administrivia on the
# line. BAW: N is currently hardcoded to 5. str-ify the Subject: header
# because it may be an email.Header.Header instance rather than a string.

bodylines = lines[:20]

Thanks,

Subha

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Hi,

 I was wondering if you could tell me which file to edit to make
mailman parse the whole email.

I think in the Utils.py file, around line 518 , it checks against the default 
number of lines.

if linecnt  mm_cfg.DEFAULT_MAIL_COMMANDS_MAX_LINES:

Any idea where I can find this?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread Paul H Byerly
texas critter wrote:
When you posted about this the other day, I did some brief tests with 2.1.3
and I got the same wrong results as you did.  So I guess it's a bug, and
it's in both versions.
 Thanks TC, this is the first time anyone has confirmed this (I owe 
you some catnip now).  I had the same problem in 2.1.2.  It looks to me 
like the filtering system is close to useless, as it does not do what it 
says it does, and can not be made to do what it should be able to do.

 If a few others would confirm this I'll submit a bug report.  Set up 
a test list and send the same html e-mail twice - once with filtering off, 
once with it on and the two fields empty and conversion off.   The first 
test goes through with html intact, the second does not.

 I've also tried adding everything to the second field - still strips 
the html.  As far as I can tell turning on filtering kills html formatting 
no matter how you configure it past that.  And this is only the beginning 
of the problems I have with the content filtering.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm BEGGING for help here

2004-04-07 Thread Paul H Byerly
Richard B wrote:
You are asserting that your tests show some problem exists but from a
quick look at it, the code concerned is not obviously defective.
 Well unless it's a Texas conspiracy, TC has taken it past an empty 
assertion.

 Can you give me a yes or no on my reasoning?  Should turning 
filtering on, leaving both fields empty, and leaving text/html conversion 
off give the same results as not turning filtering on?

 If yes, can you try a test and see if the two settings result in the 
same results for an e-mail with html formatting?

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[Mailman-Users] Moderation not happening.

2004-04-07 Thread Steve Mallett
Hi folks,

I just installed mailman this aft.

Everything appears to be working well, people can subscribe, I can use 
the web interface, mail is sent to newly created lists, but I have one 
problem...

Whenever Action to take for postings from non-members for which no 
explicit action is defined. is set to discard, reject or hold 
non-member can still send msgs to the list.

Same goes for members who are listed as mod and checking yes for 
moderation of member posts.

I have a moderator listed  have followed the instruction here 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp as 
far as I can tell to the letter.

When refreshing the privacy - Sender Filtering pages the changes made 
show up so the file is writable.

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