Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.

2004-04-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:05:16 -0600:

 So does the lists sub-directory contain data for each individual list
 including rosters and digests?


you mean archives? They are in the archives directory. Just have a look at 
your mailman directory. It's all quite clean and neatly arranged and 
should be self-explaining. As for the members of the list, it looks like 
they are in the lists directory as well. Probably in the config.pck. When 
I last cloned a mailing list by copying the directory I got all the 
members with it, so they must be there as well.


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removing arbitrary headers [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users]

2004-04-28 Thread James Ralston
On 2004-04-04 at 11:01:22-07 Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I definitely see it as useful to be able to strip out headers that
 cause systems to auto-reply with a return receipt.

IMHO, this statement can be shortened to I definitely think it would
be useful to strip out arbitrary headers.

Case in point: we use SpamAssassin to analyze and tag incoming email
(meaning, email received from external sites).  All scanned messages
receive an X-Spam-Status header; messages which scored as probable
spam also receive an X-Spam-Level header.  This permits mailing list
owners to add this bounce_matching_headers rule:

x-spam-level: \.

But we'd like to have these headers removed when the message is
distributed to the members of the list.

While I can strip those headers at the MTA level (the combination of
sendmail + MIMEDefang is a wonderful thing), it can be tricky to do it
correctly.  I think it would be cleaner to strip them from within
Mailman.

If, at some point in the future, I feel that my Python skills are up
to the task, I'll probably take a crack at implementing something like
this.  But until then (or until someone else beats me to it), I think
it's definitely a good idea.

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[Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread Hunter Hillegas
Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to re-enable
delivery?

We recently had a situation where AOL was blocking all of our mail, so
everyone on our list that is on AOL is now blocked for excessive bouncing...

We have 20,000 members on our list on AOL, so doing it by hand sounds about
as great as having my hand chopped off.

I tried searching the archives and google to no avail.

We're running 2.1.4. Thanks.


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[Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's primary name...

2004-04-28 Thread Roedel, Mark

Brief Overview:
===
The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
from inside our firewall.  While Mailman is configured to prefer a
non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in
some of their headers (including Sender, Return-path, and
Reply-to), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable
from outside our local network.

Is it possible to override this behavior?



Detailed Information:
=
The primary hostname of the server which hosts our Mailman lists is
baruch.letnet.net.  For a number of reasons, this hostname is not
resolvable from outside our firewall.

This server has additional hostnames (www.letu.edu and
lists.letu.edu) which are resolvable and accessible from outside our
firewall.

Lists are configured with host_name (Host name this list prefers for
email) set to lists.letu.edu.

An e-mail sent through the list, however, gets headers which include the
following:

 From: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2
 Reply-To: Deck 3 alumni and friends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Id: Deck 3 alumni and friends deck3.lists.letu.edu
 List-Unsubscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Archive: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/private/deck3
 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure
that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct
hostname?  Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers,
and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit
reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have
Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well...

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[Mailman-Users] How to list all members of a list/search broken

2004-04-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
There doesn't seem to be an option for listing all members on the web 
interface and there's also no chance to do it with the search. Search 
obviously transforms strings automatically to regexes (that is I can 
search for a string and don't need to create a regex), but it doesn't 
produce a result when I use only one character or a regex which would 
output all members.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to list all members of a list/search broken

2004-04-28 Thread Todd
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Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 There doesn't seem to be an option for listing all members on the web 
 interface and there's also no chance to do it with the search.

There is, but it's not in the obvious place that list admins would
look for it.  Check the bottom of the listinfo page for your list and
you can get the subscriber list from there.

IMHO, this link ought to be in the admin section someplace too.  A
trivial patch to add this to the Other Administrative Activities
section would look like this (leaving i18n as an exercise for the
interested):

- --- mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py~   Wed Dec 24 12:27:45 2003
+++ mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py  Wed Apr 28 13:23:35 2004
@@ -412,6 +412,8 @@
 _('Tend to pending moderator requests')))
 otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo'),
 _('Go to the general list information page')))
+otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('roster'),
+_('View all members of this list')))
 otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('edithtml'),
 _('Edit the public HTML pages')))
 otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL(),

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread David Relson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:14:38 -0700
Hunter Hillegas wrote:

 Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to
 re-enable delivery?
 
 We recently had a situation where AOL was blocking all of our mail, so
 everyone on our list that is on AOL is now blocked for excessive
 bouncing...
 
 We have 20,000 members on our list on AOL, so doing it by hand sounds
 about as great as having my hand chopped off.
 
 I tried searching the archives and google to no avail.
 
 We're running 2.1.4. Thanks.

Perhaps the following idea will be helpful:

$prefix/list_members can give a list of members
grep can select the aol subscribers
??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread Roedel, Mark

Even better:

$prefix/list_members --nomail=B

would give a list of only those list members with the criteria requested
by the original poster.  (Exists in 2.1.5rc2...not sure if it was around
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 Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to
 re-enable delivery?

Perhaps the following idea will be helpful:

$prefix/list_members can give a list of members
grep can select the aol subscribers
??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's primary name...

2004-04-28 Thread Steffen Mueller
On 04/28/04 18:45 Roedel, Mark wrote:
Brief Overview:
===
The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
from inside our firewall.  While Mailman is configured to prefer a
non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in
some of their headers (including Sender, Return-path, and
Reply-to), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable
from outside our local network.
Is it possible to override this behavior?

Hi.

Check your MTA configuration for missing domain/name directives.

We're using exim 3.35 and had similar problems. After adding a domain 
directive to the mailman director our probs were solved:
domains = lists.letu.edu

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's primary name...

2004-04-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:45 AM -0500 2004/04/28, Roedel, Mark wrote:

 The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
 hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
 from inside our firewall.
	[ ... deletia ... ]

 Is it possible to override this behavior?
	Yes, but it depends on your MTA.  We recently did this on a mail 
server I am responsible for.

	With postfix, you set $myhostname equal to the value you want the 
outside world to see.  You will also need to set $smtp_bind_address 
to the IP address you want to use for outbound connections.

	So long as $myhostname resolves to the IP address specified in 
$smtp_bind_address, for which the reverse DNS points back to the same 
name claimed in $myhostname, you should be set.

	Note that you may need to make firewall changes to support these 
application changes.  Many firewalls are configured to allow incoming 
connections, and outgoing packets are only allowed for established 
connections (i.e., in response to a given incoming connection). 
Outbound connections are typically more limited, and may not include 
the IP address you specify in $smtp_bind_address.

 Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure
 that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct
 hostname?  Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers,
 and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit
 reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have
 Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well...
	There's no way to fix this problem from within Mailman.  You have 
to fix this problem inside your MTA.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread John DeCarlo
Hello,

David Relson wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:14:38 -0700
Hunter Hillegas wrote:
Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to
re-enable delivery?
Perhaps the following idea will be helpful:

$prefix/list_members can give a list of members
grep can select the aol subscribers
??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users
Ideally, list_members would have switches to display any attribute a 
user could have.  Then update_members could change any attribute a user 
could have.

So far, each started fairly simple and added more capabilities.

I believe that 3.0, integrating a data base for users, is expected to be 
able to handle these kinds of updates much more easily.

In the meantime, if you can find someone who knows Python and has time, 
you can add the capability to update_members to reset the nomail 
setting.  I have done some of that kind of thing in the past, but no 
longer have the time, really.

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[Mailman-Users] No welcome mail

2004-04-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I usually subscribe members to our announce-only lists via web interface 
and don't send them a welcome notice. But today I did and found that 
nothing gets sent. Unsubscription sends an unsubscribe confirmation to the 
member and I also get my list-admin notice when I tick it. But no welcome 
mail for the new member. No problems in the logs, there's simply no 
attempt to produce the message as far as I can see.
Could this be a problem with 2.1.5rc2? I don't remember if I ever tried it 
with 2.1.4.

While checking the logs I found actions getting logged like

new [EMAIL PROTECTED] , admin mass sub

which implies it should normally (when I add names as well) look like

name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

operation is ok, but I wonder why it does log this way and not f.i.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's primaryname... (additional information)

2004-04-28 Thread Roedel, Mark

Thanks for the responses...hopefully I'll be able to massage them into
something useful.

I was skeptical that the problem pointed to an MTA configuration issue,
because I got the same set of headers when I changed SMTPHOST in my
mm_cfg.py from 'localhost' to point to another of our SMTP servers.
(Both the Mailman server and the other one I'd tried are running
Sendmail.)

However, on a whim, I just changed it to direct outbound messages to our
Exchange server's SMTP service, and everything seems to be peachy-keen.

Harrumph.  So far I've got suggested directives for Exim and
Postfix...anybody slogged through this with Sendmail before and have a
pointer?

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Longview, Texas  USA
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roedel, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's
primaryname...


Brief Overview:
===
The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
from inside our firewall.  While Mailman is configured to prefer a
non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in
some of their headers (including Sender, Return-path, and
Reply-to), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable
from outside our local network.

Is it possible to override this behavior?



Detailed Information:
=
The primary hostname of the server which hosts our Mailman lists is
baruch.letnet.net.  For a number of reasons, this hostname is not
resolvable from outside our firewall.

This server has additional hostnames (www.letu.edu and
lists.letu.edu) which are resolvable and accessible from outside our
firewall.

Lists are configured with host_name (Host name this list prefers for
email) set to lists.letu.edu.

An e-mail sent through the list, however, gets headers which include the
following:

 From: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2
 Reply-To: Deck 3 alumni and friends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Id: Deck 3 alumni and friends deck3.lists.letu.edu
 List-Unsubscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Archive: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/private/deck3
 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure
that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct
hostname?  Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers,
and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit
reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have
Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well...


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's primaryname... (additional information)

2004-04-28 Thread Steve Williams
Hi,

I am very new to Mailman and ran into the same problem.  I resolved it 
by doing my configure with:

./configure --with-mailhost=maillisthost.com 
--with-urlhost=www.maillisthost.com

then make, make install, and it resolved the problem! 

Good Luck..

Cheers,
Steve
Roedel, Mark wrote:

Thanks for the responses...hopefully I'll be able to massage them into
something useful.
I was skeptical that the problem pointed to an MTA configuration issue,
because I got the same set of headers when I changed SMTPHOST in my
mm_cfg.py from 'localhost' to point to another of our SMTP servers.
(Both the Mailman server and the other one I'd tried are running
Sendmail.)
However, on a whim, I just changed it to direct outbound messages to our
Exchange server's SMTP service, and everything seems to be peachy-keen.
Harrumph.  So far I've got suggested directives for Exim and
Postfix...anybody slogged through this with Sendmail before and have a
pointer?
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Web Programmer / Analyst
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Longview, Texas  USA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roedel, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's
primaryname...
Brief Overview:
===
The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
from inside our firewall.  While Mailman is configured to prefer a
non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in
some of their headers (including Sender, Return-path, and
Reply-to), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable
from outside our local network.
Is it possible to override this behavior?



Detailed Information:
=
The primary hostname of the server which hosts our Mailman lists is
baruch.letnet.net.  For a number of reasons, this hostname is not
resolvable from outside our firewall.
This server has additional hostnames (www.letu.edu and
lists.letu.edu) which are resolvable and accessible from outside our
firewall.
Lists are configured with host_name (Host name this list prefers for
email) set to lists.letu.edu.
An e-mail sent through the list, however, gets headers which include the
following:
 

From: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2
Reply-To: Deck 3 alumni and friends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Id: Deck 3 alumni and friends deck3.lists.letu.edu
List-Unsubscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
	mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Archive: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/private/deck3
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Subscribe: http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3,
	mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure
that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct
hostname?  Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers,
and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit
reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have
Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well...
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[Mailman-Users] MM Not Talking To Imap Sessions: Pop3d OK

2004-04-28 Thread Karl R. Balsmeier
Hi there,

I noticed that users utilizing squirrelmail and some other Imap based 
programs were not able to submit posts to the list.

Is there an Exim3 transport or Director or trasport that handles this?

-krb

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread Hunter Hillegas
This works like a charm... Question now is if there is something I can feed
this list into to re-enable them...

Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Hunter

 From: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:34:32 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
 
 
 Even better:
 
 $prefix/list_members --nomail=B
 
 would give a list of only those list members with the criteria requested
 by the original poster.  (Exists in 2.1.5rc2...not sure if it was around
 prior to that or not.)
 
 --
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 Web Programmer / Analyst
 LeTourneau University
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Relson
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:30 PM
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
 
 Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to
 re-enable delivery?
 
 Perhaps the following idea will be helpful:
 
 $prefix/list_members can give a list of members
 grep can select the aol subscribers
 ??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Access subscription list via PHP?

2004-04-28 Thread Sean Robertson
Looks like the host is keeping mailman on a seperate server.  Is there
any way to still do it, or am I stuck?

What I'm doing right now is generating an email in PHP using the
subscribers address for the from line, so that the confirmation goes to
them.  Is there any way I can do this using some kind of admin command
via email instead, so they don't get the confirmation or anything saying
they're already subscribed if that happens to be the case?



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 From: Justin Alcorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sean Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sean Robertson said:
  I have a PHP form set up that I'd like to be able to use to
subscribe
  people
  to the mailing list.  The problem is tha they might already be
signed
 up
  to
  the list, so just sending an email to the listserve is not a very
 clean
  solution.  Is there any way to access the memberlist via PHP and
find
 out
  if
  someone has already signed up or not so it doesn't try to do it
again
 if
  they already have?
 
 

 call list_members and capture the output.


 $members = `/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members mylist`;
 // find the member...



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread Hunter Hillegas
Replying to my own post...

Seems easiest thing to do was remove/re-add the users.

Cheers,
Hunter

 From: Hunter Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:01:15 -0700
 To: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
 
 This works like a charm... Question now is if there is something I can feed
 this list into to re-enable them...
 
 Does anyone know?
 
 Thanks,
 Hunter
 
 From: Roedel, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:34:32 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
 
 
 Even better:
 
 $prefix/list_members --nomail=B
 
 would give a list of only those list members with the criteria requested
 by the original poster.  (Exists in 2.1.5rc2...not sure if it was around
 prior to that or not.)
 
 --
 Mark Roedel
 Web Programmer / Analyst
 LeTourneau University
 
 
 
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 Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to
 re-enable delivery?
 
 Perhaps the following idea will be helpful:
 
 $prefix/list_members can give a list of members
 grep can select the aol subscribers
 ??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] Footer Appended as Attachment in 2.1?

2004-04-28 Thread Hunter Hillegas
We're seeing the footer coming along as an attachment on some end-users
systems.

I saw a FAQ entry for this behavior with 2.0.x. We're running 2.1.4 and the
FAQ article specifies that it is fixed in 2.1.x.

Anyone know what is going on?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Re: How does Mailman compare with YahooGroups?

2004-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia)
To: Glenn Sieb

Dear Glenn,

Good morning!

 If you look at what people _use_ Yahoogroups for, it's not just for a
 mailing list in general--it's being used to schedule get togethers,
 keep track of members' birthdays, et cetera. Mailman doesn't do all
 that (at least, not efficiently, unless you count some poor schmuck
 being stuck with the duties of emailing the whole list every
 week/month/etc to keep everyone up to date ;) ).

Okay.
I've never used those other functions (maybe I should!)
But I understand what you're saying.


 And, from the past comments I've seen on the
 subject, it's not something that interests the dev team (and that's
 fine.. no one said they had to find it interesting .. I'm just
 mentioning it as this subject has been brought up in the past...


Okay.

Actually, I'm new to all this open source stuff. I was introduced
to it by an American friend, Phil Oliver of Oliver Computing, who
helped me set up my new server.

I'm truly staggered, amazed, and astounded at how much
incredible FREE software has been and is being currently
developed around the world.

I'd be surprised if some of the functions that exist in YahooGroups
but don't exist in Mailman don't eventually get developed and
be made available by somebody at some time.

Anyway, your notes have certainly helped me in comparing
Mailman and YahooGroups. So thanks for that!  :-)

Best Wishes,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 09:14:38AM -0700, Hunter Hillegas wrote:
 Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to re-enable
 delivery?

This is the sort of thing that 'withlist' is good for.

 We have 20,000 members on our list on AOL, so doing it by hand sounds about
 as great as having my hand chopped off.

$ bin/withlist -l -i mylist
for member in m.getDeliveryStatusMembers((MailList.MemberAdaptor.BYBOUNCE,)):
m.setDeliveryStatus(member, MailList.MemberAdaptor.ENABLED)
m.Save()
{ctrl-d}

You could even get a little more fancy and only reenable the
user if the m.getDeliveryStatusChangeTime(member) value is
recent enough.

Jim

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[Mailman-Users] What about this patch: Edit held message header/body?

2004-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia)

Good afternoon!

I'd like to ask whether anyone is using or is familar with
the following patch and if you have any feedback about it:

[ 644129 ] Edit held message header/body available @
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=644129group_id=103atid=300103

This patch allows full editing of headers and bodies of messages being
held for approval in Mailman 2.1

Thanks for any help or advice!

=]:-)

Best Wishes,

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