Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts

2004-05-07 Thread Håkon Strandenes
What user account should I set fetchmail to deliver the mails to? Does
it affect the mail delivery?

Is it any other tricks I have to know about?

Best regards
Håkon Strandenes

tor, 06.05.2004 kl. 22.32 skrev Brad Knowles:
 At 10:19 PM +0200 2004/05/06, Håkon Strandenes wrote:
 
   How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external
   pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I
   configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman?
 
   The postfix and mailman configurations should be pretty much 
 completely independent of the fetchmail configuration.  Set up 
 fetchmail to download the e-mail from the remote server and deliver 
 it locally, and then postfix and mailman should take care of the rest.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts

2004-05-07 Thread Hilton J Ralphs
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm
 running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10
 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a
 no-ip.com basic account.
 
 But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a
 web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is:
 
 How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external
 pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I
 configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman?
 
If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside 
of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts 
and send them to the list?

If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or 
similar) make sure the entries are something like this

[EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request

Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, 
leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc).

Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do 
this

user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request

The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of 
dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table 
just like normal port 25 mail would do.

I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like 
BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts

2004-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:01 AM +0200 2004/05/07, Håkon Strandenes wrote:

 What user account should I set fetchmail to deliver the mails to? Does
 it affect the mail delivery?
	I think Hilton has already covered this.  It does make a 
difference, because otherwise you'd have the wrong messages going to 
the wrong mailing lists.

 Is it any other tricks I have to know about?
	You also have to have your ISP give you some sort of way of 
distinguishing between the various different addresses that get 
delivered to your account.  Otherwise, all those messages are going 
to come in and look like they are delivered to you, and you won't 
know what to do with them.

	I think this issue is pretty well explained in the fetchmail documentation.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman and Postfix question

2004-05-07 Thread Yogesh Subhash Talekar

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Mailman and Postfix question
From: Yogesh Subhash Talekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, May 6, 2004 2:11 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mailman Installation and Configuration Howto:

1.  Make sure that all software required to run mailman is already
installed (python etc)
2.  Remove old mailman with: #rpm –e mailman
3.  Remove the directory: # rm –rf /var/lib/mailman
4.  Again create empty directory mailman: #mkdir /var/lib/mailman
5.  Make sure that a user “mailman” and group “mailman” exists
6.  Set permissions of /var/lib/mailman with setgid:
#chown mailman.mailman /var/lib/mailman
# chmod a+rx ,g+ws /var/lib/mailman
7.  Create /var/mailman to hold mailman archives, list configs, etc: #
mkdir /var/mailman ; chgrp mailman /var/mailman
# chmod a+rx,g+ws /var/mailman
8.  Configure and build mailman as user mailman:
# su - mailman
$ tar zxf /tmp/mailman-2.1.x.tgz; cd mailman-2.1.x
$ ./configure --prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman
--with-cgi-gid=nogroup
$ make install
9.  As root do following:
Create a file “/etc/httpd/mailman.conf” with following contents:
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /archives/ /var/mailman/archives/public/
Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/
Directory /var/mailman/archives
Options +FollowSymLinks
/Directory

10. And the add following line to the bottom of the file
suse_include.conf (or httpd.conf): Include /etc/httpd/mailman.conf

11. Also copy the mailman’s icons to Apache:
cp /var/lib/mailman/icons/* /srv/www/icons/

12. Setup crontab file required for mailman:
# cat ~mailman/cron/crontab.in | sed -e 's# /# mailman /#' 
/etc/cron.d/mailman
# chmod 600 /etc/cron.d/mailman
13. If required add following mailman aliases to /etc/aliases and then
run “newliases” command:
mailman: root
mailman-owner: mailman

14. Add a site-wide list mailman with command:
/var/lib/mailman/bin/newlist mailman
And also give one email ID for administrator

15. Add entry for /var/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl daemon in /etc/rc.d/
and /etc/rc3.d/ so that the daemon start when machine boots

16. Set the mailman password (e.g. to mydomain321):
# /var/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass mydomain321

17. Add the mailman alias map to postfix-out, so edit
/etc/postfix-out/main.cf and add hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases to the
alias_maps line and run 'postfix reload' (Remove anyother hash map
labeled as mailman if the corresponding file does not exist)

18. Set the mailman delivery scripts to be executable:
# chmod +x /var/lib/mailman/scripts/*

19. Change following line in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py as
follows: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomainmail.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '57.193.32.72'


Install and configure Apache:

1.  Check weather its is already installed with “rpm –qa | grep apache”
2.  # mkdir /var/log/httpd
3.  # chown nobody.nobody /var/log/httpd/
4.  Start apache using # /etc/rc.d/apache start
5.


Creating a new list:


1.  Run /var/lib/mailman/bin/newlist and answer prompts accordingly. If
your are adding a new list named [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will output
following lines on the screen:
test:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test
test-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin test
test-bounces:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test
test-confirm:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm test
test-join:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join test
test-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave test
test-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner test
test-request:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request test
test-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe test
test-unsubscribe:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe test

2.  Login as user mailman (important) and Add these lines to
/var/mailman/data/aliases and then run
“$ /usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases”
3.  Edit the file “/var/mailman/data/sitelist.cfg” to suit your
requirements. You can also save it as “mailman-list.cfg” to have
configuration of mailman list or save it as “any-other-list.cfg” to save
configuration specific to that list.
4.  Then you can configure the this new list called “mailman” using:
/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list  -i /var/mailman/data/sitelist.cfg
mailman
5.  Syntax is:”/path/to/config_list  -i
/var/mailman/data/any-other-list.cfg listname”
6.



Changes for working with Postfix:

1.  Add following two lines to main.cf
owner_request_special = no
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
2.  Add this to the bottom of the $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file:
MTA = 'Postfix'
3.  Look at the Defaults.py file for the variables POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD and
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD command.  Make sure these point to your postalias and
postmap programs 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Admin URLs wrong

2004-05-07 Thread Yogesh Subhash Talekar

you can change that mydomain.com to linuxbox.mydomain.com like this:

Login as user mailman (or use su - mailman):

% python -i bin/withlist -l mylist
Loading list mylist (locked)
 m.web_page_url
'http://mydomain.com/broken-path/'
 m.web_page_url = 'http://linuxbox.mydomain.com/mailman/'
 m.Save()
 ^D

That's it!

--yogesh





 I have a home network with a windows server plus a linux box as a
 postfix mail server.  The linux box is also my firewall / router so it
 gets my static IP and an inside IP as the gateway (192.168.1.1).
 Mailman is running and I created a list.  I can go to
 http://linuxbox.mydomain.com/mailman/admin/mylistname and the list
 admin page comes up, and lets me log in with my password.  But all of
 the links in the admin page point to http://mydomain.com/mailman,
 etc... not http://linuxbox.mydomain.com.I made the destinction in
 DNS so that I could have my linux web server at
 http://linuxbox.mydomain.com   because I have a windows web server
 running on just the http://mydomain.com.

 So my question is what created the links in the admin site and how do
 I make them point to my linux box.  Is it Mailman, is it Apache?  And
 where do I change it?  I already changed mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_URL_HOST to
 http://linuxbox.mydomain.com but it didnt seem to work.

 Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Delete list archives

2004-05-07 Thread Detlef Neubauer
Franco, Ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What about the stuff in $MAILMANHOME/archives/public/$LISTNAME?

All.

Example:

$MAILMANHOME is /home/mailman, $LISTNAME is foobar.

Then delete all stuff in the directory
/home/mailman/archives/public/foobar/ and
/home/mailman/archives/public/foobar.mbox/. Don't delete the
directorys.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Change user settings through command line

2004-05-07 Thread Geoff Powell
Jim,

Thankyou, the code you have put forward makes sense and is what I
wanted. After making a few small mods, it's now doing what I want. I
have also found some other good examples of 'withlist' usage which
helped.

One further question though :), the permissions on most of Mailman's
files on the system in /var/mailman are owned by root with gid of
mailman, mask 0744. My question is, if I do not want to run my scripts
as root, is it fine for me to modify the permissions on these files, or
is this likely to cause unexpected results for the web front end/system
python scripts? Even if I add users to the mailman group, they are
unlikely to have full access to the mailman databases etc.

Thanks  Regards

Geoff

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Tittsler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, 7 May 2004 12:57 PM
 To: Geoff Powell
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Change user settings through command line
 
 
 On May 6, 2004, at 17:25, Geoff Powell wrote:
 
  Is it possible with Mailman 2.1.4-1 to change user settings from a 
  command line tool? For example set nomail to 1 for a user 
 on a mailing 
  list? I looked in the bin directory and none of the 
 utilities appear 
  to be designed to do this, does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 You can do this sort of thing with 'withlist'.
 
 $ bin/withlist -l -i mylist 
 m.setDeliveryStatus('[EMAIL PROTECTED]', MailList.MemberAdaptor.BYADMIN)
 m.Save()
 {ctrl-D}
 
 If this is the sort of thing you are going to do often, you should 
 create a little Python script to remember the messy bits and 
 save some 
 typing.  You could create  a file called nomail.py containing:
 
 from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError
 from Mailman.MemberAdaptor import BYADMIN
 
 def nomail(m, addr):
  try:
  m.setDeliveryStatus(addr, BYADMIN)
  m.Save()
  except NotAMemberError:
  print 'No address matched:', addr
 
 Then to disable someone, do (either explicitly or with a script or 
 alias):
 
 $ bin/withlist -l -r nomail mylist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Admin URLs wrong

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Barrett
But it is simpler to run the $prefix/bin/fix_url.py script and ensure 
the entire job is done.

On 7 May 2004, at 09:26, Yogesh Subhash Talekar wrote:

you can change that mydomain.com to linuxbox.mydomain.com like this:

Login as user mailman (or use su - mailman):

% python -i bin/withlist -l mylist
Loading list mylist (locked)
m.web_page_url
'http://mydomain.com/broken-path/'
m.web_page_url = 'http://linuxbox.mydomain.com/mailman/'
m.Save()
^D
That's it!

--yogesh





I have a home network with a windows server plus a linux box as a
postfix mail server.  The linux box is also my firewall / router so it
gets my static IP and an inside IP as the gateway (192.168.1.1).
Mailman is running and I created a list.  I can go to
http://linuxbox.mydomain.com/mailman/admin/mylistname and the list
admin page comes up, and lets me log in with my password.  But all of
the links in the admin page point to http://mydomain.com/mailman,
etc... not http://linuxbox.mydomain.com.I made the destinction in
DNS so that I could have my linux web server at
http://linuxbox.mydomain.com   because I have a windows web server
running on just the http://mydomain.com.
So my question is what created the links in the admin site and how do
I make them point to my linux box.  Is it Mailman, is it Apache?  And
where do I change it?  I already changed mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_URL_HOST to
http://linuxbox.mydomain.com but it didnt seem to work.
Thanks
SC


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change user settings through command line

2004-05-07 Thread Jim Tittsler
On May 7, 2004, at 18:21, Geoff Powell wrote:

One further question though :), the permissions on most of Mailman's
files on the system in /var/mailman are owned by root with gid of
mailman, mask 0744. My question is, if I do not want to run my scripts
as root, is it fine for me to modify the permissions on these files, or
is this likely to cause unexpected results for the web front end/system
python scripts? Even if I add users to the mailman group, they are
unlikely to have full access to the mailman databases etc.
I would expect your mailman list databases already to be group 
writeable by the mailman group.  (Check the files in 
/usr/local/mailman/lists/** or maybe /var/mailman/lists/** in your 
case.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List security

2004-05-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Kai == Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kai So, put Approved: password in the first line or as a
Kai header. Note, this will be parsed away and NOT distributed to
Kai the list, don't worry!

Well, worry a little.  It's cleartext, so unless you're using a VPN/
encrypted channels/intranet-only you have to be aware that it can be
sniffed off the 'net.  Also, if you bypass the list for some
recipients (eg, a wide reply), they'll get it.  And of course
passwords are relatively weak security if they're mnemonic.

If security means against spam/viruses, likely you don't need to be
so paranoid.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner

2004-05-07 Thread tikkliknl
Well it was a new install, but there was an old not used version pressent.
i installed python 2.3.3
looking at ps -aux i see this:

mailman  28884  0.1  0.9  5964 4792 ?S22:55   0:00 
python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
mailman  28885  2.8  0.8  5736 4600 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28886  3.0  0.8  5748 4612 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28887  2.8  0.8  5740 4596 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  2  2.8  0.8  5744 4600 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28889  3.1  0.8  5752 4636 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28890  2.9  0.9  5764 4668 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28891  2.9  0.8  5744 4600 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  28892  3.3  0.8  5736 4600 ?S22:55   
0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

only thing i changed was when starting mailmanctl it looked for qrunner but 
he didnt find it so i put t there fronm the install files.


thanxs 
steffan.

 Hello did a new install of mailman 2.1.4 now cron gives this error

 File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 96
 print  fd, _(__doc__)
^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

 any idees


what version of python are you running? the README says


MM 2.1.x normally operates its qrunners as daemons, unlike MM 2.0.x which 
used a cron executed qrunner.

You appear to have a cron based qrunner yet say you are running a newly 
installed MM 2.1.4.

Did you install this over an earlier MM 2.0.x install and if so did you 
remove the old crontab before installing the one for the newer release?

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[Mailman-Users] Changing a list name

2004-05-07 Thread Estelle Weyl
Is there a way to change the name of an existing list.  I have been
searching far and wide on the server for a place to use the vi editor to
edit a database file or something on the server, but I can't find where
real_name variable is stored.

Thanks for any guidance.

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2004-05-07 Thread Anthony Diak
Hello all.  I am having some problems with a mailman list I am trying to
setup.  

 

First let me tell you my configuration:

 

Xserve G4 10.3 Server

Mailman 2.1.2 (os x package-part of the server)

Everything is up to date - all patches and updates

 

What the people who want the list setup want is to have every post be
moderated, no matter what.  I figured out how to do this simply enough.
They also want the moderator to receive emails whenever a post is submitted
so that they can approve it asap.  I set a password different from the admin
password for the moderator, and supplied a moderator in the moderator field.
I turned on Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new
requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones to Yes, and to my
understanding, the moderator should get messages whenever I send a message
to the list.  The posts are being send to the moderation que and await
moderation, but the moderator never gets an email saying there are requests
waiting.  Is there something I'm missing, a bug in this version, or
something else?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thank you,

Anthony.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Emails not processing

2004-05-07 Thread Tik Klik Internetdiensten
Well een reinstall did the trick all works fine now.
just now looking in all the futures
mayby you can give one hint
 i only wnat to be able to mail the list

all members that post to the list must be bounced.
im sure i will find this option but a hint will be nice :-)

On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:36:56 -0500, Paul H Byerly wrote
 Steffan Noord  wrote:
 I did a fresh install of version 2.1.4
 Installation went fine browser is up
 Cron is running aliases is set
 
   That version runs as a daemon, not from cron - did you do 
 [prefix/mailman/ bin/mailmanctl start?
 
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[Mailman-Users] cron problems

2004-05-07 Thread Tik Klik Internetdiensten

Hello,
 after 2 time im getting mailman 2.1.4 running
but im getting a cron error:
 /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 96
print  fd, _(__doc__)
   ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax



any idees,

Greats Steffan

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RE: [Mailman-Users] qrunner

2004-05-07 Thread Tik Klik Internetdiensten
Thanks for the time.
I notied a old cronjob running.
 
That was the problem with the errors
Its oke now.



Met vriendelijke groet,
 
Steffan Noord
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Richard Barrett
Verzonden: donderdag 6 mei 2004 23:36
Aan: tikkliknl
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner

On 6 May 2004, at 22:00, tikkliknl wrote:

 Well it was a new install, but there was an old not used version 
 pressent.
 i installed python 2.3.3

Did you install it in the same location as and replacing any previous
version of python on the system?

 looking at ps -aux i see this:

 mailman  28884  0.1  0.9  5964 4792 ?S22:55   0:00
 python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
 mailman  28885  2.8  0.8  5736 4600 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28886  3.0  0.8  5748 4612 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28887  2.8  0.8  5740 4596 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  2  2.8  0.8  5744 4600 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28889  3.1  0.8  5752 4636 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28890  2.9  0.9  5764 4668 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28891  2.9  0.8  5744 4600 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  28892  3.3  0.8  5736 4600 ?S22:55
 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /home/mailman/bin/qrunner --
 runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

 only thing i changed was when starting mailmanctl it looked for 
 qrunner but he didnt find it

which indicates something went wrong with your installation if your install
$prefix was /home/mailman and the 'make install' did not put a copy of the
MM 2.1.4 qrunner into /home/mailman/bin

 so i put t there

put what from where to where?

 fronm the install files.

If the 'make install' had executed correctly you should not have had to copy
over/install any files by hand.

MM 2.1.4 does not normally execute a file called $prefix/cron/qrunner and
not from its normal crontab. If cron is trying to execute a qrunner scr8pt
it is probably the old Mailman installation's crontab that is so doing. Did
you check that this had been removed before you installed the new MM 2.1.4
crontab? Did you install the MM 2.1.4 crontab?

The syntax error you reported originally could come about if:

1. your old MM crontab was not removed

2. you copied a copy of the MM 2.1.4 qrunner into $prefix/cron/

3. your old MM crontab referenced an older python installation still on your
system and not the Python 2.3.3 you have installed

4. as a result, an entry in the old MM crontab tried to execute the
(daemon) qrunner used by MM 2.1.4 with an old version of python which saw a
feature used in the new code as being a syntax error

 thanxs
 steffan.

 Hello did a new install of mailman 2.1.4 now cron gives this error

 File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 96
 print  fd, _(__doc__)
^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

 any idees


 what version of python are you running? the README says


 MM 2.1.x normally operates its qrunners as daemons, unlike MM 2.0.x 
 which used a cron executed qrunner.

 You appear to have a cron based qrunner yet say you are running a 
 newly installed MM 2.1.4.

 Did you install this over an earlier MM 2.0.x install and if so did 
 you remove the old crontab before installing the one for the newer
release?



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[Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-07 Thread Rick Sipes
I'm so very sorry to trouble you but I'm unable to figure out something 
on our Mailman 2.1.4 list server.  I'm not a technical person, and I've 
tried my best to find the information within the help and docs, but I'm 
just stumped.

Sometimes, when a posting goes out over a list, recipients see the 
following ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Sipes
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [owners] Blah Blah Blah  ...
What I'm talking about is instead of seeing it from me 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for example, some, but not all of the recipients see 
it coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  I have bounce processing 
turned off for the list.

The messages do get delivered, and other than confusion, it is working.

I love the software.  We run it on a Red Hat Linux box for our small 
campus here in Memphis.  It has about 135 lists on it.

Anyway, thanks for any help you can point me toward!!!

Sincerely,

Rick Sipes
Memphis, Tennessee
901-448-5848


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts

2004-05-07 Thread Hilton J Ralphs
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm
 running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10
 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a
 no-ip.com basic account.
 
 But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a
 web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is:
 
 How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external
 pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I
 configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman?

If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside 
of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts 
and send them to the list?

If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or 
similar) make sure the entries are something like this

[EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request

Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, 
leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc).

Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do 
this

user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request

The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of 
dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table 
just like normal port 25 mail would do.

I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like 
BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts

2004-05-07 Thread Hilton J Ralphs
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm
 running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10
 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a
 no-ip.com basic account.
 
 But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a
 web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is:
 
 How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external
 pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I
 configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman?

If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside 
of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts 
and send them to the list?

If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or 
similar) make sure the entries are something like this

[EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request

Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, 
leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc).

Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do 
this

user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request

The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of 
dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table 
just like normal port 25 mail would do.

I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like 
BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] cron problems

2004-05-07 Thread David Vasil
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:02:12PM +0100, Tik  Klik Internetdiensten [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
  after 2 time im getting mailman 2.1.4 running
 but im getting a cron error:
  /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner
 
 File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 96
 print  fd, _(__doc__)
^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

You should not be running the mailman qrunner out of cron with
version 2.1.4.  Please read the documentation for the upgrade
process from 2.0.x to 2.1.x in the base of the src directory.

In version 2.1.4 you should be using the mailmanctl script to
control the qrunners.

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[Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?

2004-05-07 Thread Michael Balamuth
Hello list,
We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the
intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list.  Now, we have a
reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator
(poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail.  Obviously,
anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster.
So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level?  Any help
appreciated.  For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help
and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe
not?
 
Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2004-05-07 Thread John Poltorak

How can I go about setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST when building Mailman?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2004-05-07 Thread Todd
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:05 AM -0500 2004/05/07, Rick Sipes wrote:

 What I'm talking about is instead of seeing it from me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 for example, some, but not all of the recipients see it coming from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  I have bounce processing turned off for
 the list.
	The problem is almost certainly because some clients display 
different addresses for the messages they receive.

 The messages do get delivered, and other than confusion, it is working.
	The envelope sender address is unchanged, what changes is which 
client displays what.

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[Mailman-Users] Remove from Mailing List

2004-05-07 Thread Roger D Medlin
As of May 8th please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
your mailing list. 

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[Mailman-Users] Advice for upgrading Mailman

2004-05-07 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi,

I'm just after some advice and/or experiences from people here.

I run mailman-2.0.13-3 on Red Hat 8, I know it's old which is why I'm asking 
for this upgrade path. I run several lists with archives.

I have many Fedora Core 1 machines in production and they have installed 
mailman-2.1.4-1 but don't run any lists.

I also have an Alpha machine running Debian (Woody) with mailman 2.0.11 
installed on it.

So my questions are:

* should I look at upgrading to FC1's mailman or Debian (Alpha)?

* if going to to FC1, what do I have to do to perform this? 

Note here that I'm keeping the RH8 mailserver (call it host1) but would like 
to move the lists, members and archives to FC1 (host2) and still have 
everything work.

The reason I bring up the Alpha is that it's a powerful server which currently 
does nothing, I was thinking of serving Web pages or FTP site or something but 
then thought why not just move the mailman stuff to it.

Any ideas, suggestions or comments are most welcome. I've never had to migrate 
mailman in the past so I'm not sure where to start exactly.

Michael.


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