Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner running away (Mailman 2.0.11)

[Paul Smith]

%% Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  bk> At 5:41 PM -0400 2004/05/18, Paul Smith wrote:
  >> I know this is a really old version, but I'm hoping someone has some
  >> hints for me on troubleshooting this: upgrading to 2.1.4 or 2.1.5 is on
  >> my TODO list but...

  bk> Problem is, runaway Python processes are something that I
  bk> believe 2.1.5 was created to help address.

Yeah, I saw that in the announcement.

But, this system was running fine until a few weeks ago.  I don't know
of any real change in its usage patterns and certainly not in its
configuration that would account for this change in behavior.  I was
just wondering whether anyone had any debugging tips, like checking for
messages stuck in the queue that would be causing this problem, or lock
files that might be breaking something, or whatever.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues

[Mark Sass]

Brad,
Thanks for the quick response, and I wish that were true.  Here are the 
entries copied from my /etc/mail/aliases file which according to my sendmail.cf (O 
AliasFile=/etc/mail/aliases) should be where to put them:

mailman:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"

I appreciate the help, but I have been through this.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues


At 5:21 PM -0500 2004/05/18, Mark Sass wrote:

>  My biggest problem is that whenever I send email to one of the aliases
>  created I get this error:
>
>
>  May 18 11:52:32 hostname procmail[32308]: Unknown user
>  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
>  May 18 11:52:32 hostname sendmail[32307]: i4IGqWp32306:
>  to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman", delay=00:00:00,
>  xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30220, dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown

This is an alias problem.  The alias entries for this list 
haven't been created, or sendmail hasn't been told about the 
additional alias file where these entries exist.

This stuff should be covered in the README.SENDMAIL file.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem accessing membership management

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 19, 2004, at 01:28, Con Wieland wrote:
While running 2.1.4 I get the following when trying to access the 
Membership Management module from the admin page. This only happens on 
one list on a server with ~400 lists.
[...]
all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa0 in position 
16: ordinal not in range(128)
It looks like you've got a list subscriber that has an "illegal" 
character in their address (probably from an era when you were using an 
earlier version of Mailman).  You can find pointers on how to correct 
it with 'withlist' in the FAQ:
  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.013.htp


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[Mailman-Users] content of host_name

[monty]

I am experimenting with host_name in the General Options.  It seems to
work equally well if I leave off the w3 before the domain name or use
the w3.

Is there some preference for this?  I would prefer to leave the w3 off
so that the posting address on the list info page does not include the
www in the posting address.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Procmail

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:27 PM -0700 2004/05/18, Andreas Freyvogel wrote:
 Can anyone please tell me if it is possible to use procmail and Mailman
 together? If it is, can someone please direct me in the right direction ...
 thank you!
	Use them together?  In what way?  There's a good deal of feature 
overlap between the two programs, but for different reasons.  What is 
it that you're trying to achieve?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing on freeBSD 5.2 with sendmail

[Brad Knowles]

At 7:51 PM +0900 2004/05/18, Tegshjargal.A wrote:
 I install mailman-2.1.4 from ports of freeBSD 5.2 with sendmail.
 But didn't work. I can't find directory "smrsh".
	This doesn't have anything to do with Mailman.  Your sendmail 
installation is incomplete -- it's not able to find "smrsh", the 
SendMail Restricted SHell.  You need to fix it or reinstall it.

	However, this is a process that would be specific to your 
particular OS and version, and is not something on which we are 
likely to be able to provide much help.  I suggest you ask for 
assistance on the FreeBSD-related newsgroups and mailing lists.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Procmail

[Andreas Freyvogel]

Can anyone please tell me if it is possible to use procmail and Mailman
together? If it is, can someone please direct me in the right direction ...
thank you!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postalias error

[Brad Knowles]

At 4:42 PM -0400 2004/05/18, Brian York wrote:
 I am using postfix, setting things up according to the readme file 
for postfix
 in the source code for mailman. When i try to create a list i get the error
 below.
See .
	In the future, you should search the FAQ and the archives of the 
list before posting.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:21 PM -0500 2004/05/18, Mark Sass wrote:
 My biggest problem is that whenever I send email to one of the aliases
 created I get this error:
 May 18 11:52:32 hostname procmail[32308]: Unknown user
 "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
 May 18 11:52:32 hostname sendmail[32307]: i4IGqWp32306:
 to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman", delay=00:00:00,
 xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30220, dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown
	This is an alias problem.  The alias entries for this list 
haven't been created, or sendmail hasn't been told about the 
additional alias file where these entries exist.

This stuff should be covered in the README.SENDMAIL file.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner runaway

[Brad Knowles]

At 8:48 AM -0600 2004/05/18, Richard B. Pyne wrote:
 is chewing up all available cpu time. I don't recall seeing this
 before. Mailman has been running on this machine for over two
 years.
	This is a known issue with some installations of Mailman 2.1.x. 
So far as I recall, it seems to be a problem mostly with large lists 
and internal Python locking issues or somesuch, but you'd have to 
search the archives for the details.

	I believe that version 2.1.5 was intended to at least partially 
address this issue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner running away (Mailman 2.0.11)

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:41 PM -0400 2004/05/18, Paul Smith wrote:
 I know this is a really old version, but I'm hoping someone has some
 hints for me on troubleshooting this: upgrading to 2.1.4 or 2.1.5 is on
 my TODO list but...
	Problem is, runaway Python processes are something that I believe 
2.1.5 was created to help address.

	I guess you could do a diff on the source code to see what 
changed between 2.1.4 and 2.1.5 and figure out which piece of code 
might be related to the runaway process issue, then back-port those 
changes to your local 2.0.x installation.  But that would be a hell 
of a lot of work.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help, how to copy list members to other list

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:19 AM -0400 2004/05/18, SaidaOnline.net wrote:
 I need a way to copy the members from one list to other one
 I used to copy one page (letter) by one its too hard and take alot of
 time.
 If it used mysql database I could dump it but I don't know where the
 data stored.
	It does not use MySQL.  It uses a Python file type called a 
"pickle".  You get this information from the command line via the 
program bin/list_members.  You can also change the number of 
recipients listed per page, or you can use the e-mail interface to 
get a complete list of recipients.

Search the archives for details.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] response messages to mailing list

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:50 AM -0400 2004/05/17, Richard Widman wrote:
 I'm having trouble with the mailing list.  If anyone who receives an
 email from the list responds, it automatically sends that message to
 everyone on the list instead of holding it for approval.  How can I
 turn this off?
	You need to turn on everyone's moderation bit.  The page at 
 
has useful information.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman problem

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:01 PM +0500 2004/05/18, mehmood hasan wrote:
 "
 The original message was received at
 Tue, 18 May 2004 17:47:36 +0600
 from [192.168.1.228]
   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post cit"
(reason: Service unavailable)
(expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
 "
	This is a problem with your MTA.  You need to fix that, so that 
the aliases will now work.  Instructions for doing this sort of thing 
with various popular MTAs are included with Mailman, in the 
appropriate "README.WHATEVER" files.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] membership archive

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:30 PM -0400 2004/05/16, carlos h wrote:
 Hi. I'm trying to archive a list of members in an easy format where I can
 just cut and paste the 123 + email addresses I have and add them to a new
 email list system. As of now, I need to click on A, B, C and so on and cut
 and paste each email address from each alphabetical category. With 123
 members, that will take a while. Is there a text file with this info that
 is located somewhere in the systen that I can access?
	If you're subscribed to the list yourself and you allow 
subscribers to see the complete list of recipients, you can send a 
"who listname" command, and get back the information you need. 
You'll need to do a bit of fixup to convert the slightly munged 
"audible at umich.edu" addresses into "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but that's 
it.

	Otherwise, you need access to the command-line on the system 
hosting the mailing list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postalias error

[Brian York]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ls -alh /var/mailman/data
total 52K
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4.0K May 18 11:59 .
drwxrwsr-x   19 root mailman  4.0K May 17 14:40 ..
-rw-r-1 mailman  mailman41 May 18 12:17 adm.pw
-rw-rw1 mailman  mailman  4.0K May 18 12:20 aliases
-rw-r-1 mailman  mailman   12K May 18 11:59 aliases.db
-rw-rw1 mailman  mailman 5 May 14 11:29 master-qrunner.pid
-rw-r--r--1 mailman  mailman   14K May  5 21:11 sitelist.cfg


POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'

That stuff is right.


On Tuesday 18 May 2004 17:38, Dan Phillips wrote:
> On May 18, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Brian York wrote:
> > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
> > /var/mailman/data/aliases
> > (status: 1, Operation not permitted)
>
> Quoting the FAQ:
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp
>
> "The problem is most likely that your permissions are wrong on
> data/aliases and/or data/aliases.db. As README.POSTFIX states:
>
>
>  Make sure that the owner of the data/aliases and data/aliases.db
>  file is `mailman' and that the group owner for those files is
>  `mailman'.  E.g.:
>
>  % su
>  % chown mailman:mailman data/aliases*
>
>   You should also ensure that data/aliases and data/aliases.db are group
> writable. E.g.:
>
>
>  % chmod 0664 data/aliases*
>
>   BAW: Note that I think it's also possible to get this error if you
> have Postfix installed in a non-default location, e.g.
> /usr/local/bin/postfix. In that case, be sure the variables
> POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD and POSTFIX_MAP_CMD point to the right paths for the
> respective executables. If not, make the appropriate changes in your
> mm_cfg.py file."
>
>
> Dan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment in plain text messages

[Lloyd F. Tennison]

That is exactly as it is setup to work.  Since it cannot determine what 
MIME it is using, the default is text-only. It does not and will not as 
setup send other than text.  Someone would have to rewrite the module 
to add footers (and headers.)


Date sent:  Mon, 17 May 2004 17:33:53 -0400
From:   Steph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment in plain text messages
Send reply to:  Steph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> I have a 2.1 installation of Mailman, for which I own a couple of
> mailing lists. These lists have been set up to accept certain MIME
> attachments, and also to convert text/html to plain text. This works as
> expected.
> 
> We have the default footer enabled, however, it is coming through as a
> plain text attachment for all messages, rather than being appended to
> the body of the message. I've been looking through the message archives
> for Mailman, and have found many recent posts about this happening with
> text/html messages. Likewise, the FAQ only refers to this happening with
> HTML messages.
> 
> Any ideas on what might cause Mailman to use attachments for the footer
> on plain text messages, and how I might change this behavior? 
> 
> If there's any other information I can provide, please let me know!
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions on where to look!
> 
> Steph
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman issue

[Lloyd F. Tennison]

How is it referring, by domain name, IP or what.  If by domain name, if 
you are using the same domain name it should not find the old domain 
unless your registrar info is incorrect.

From:   "Willy De Roeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date sent:  Mon, 17 May 2004 11:32:19 +0200
Subject:[Mailman-Users] mailman issue

> Can I just ask a question about mailman, a part of cpanel ?
> 
> I have changed from resellerprovider .com to provider .com. All accounts 
> have been transferred through the backup/restore function in cpanel.
> 
> When I now ask for a mailinglist with my new provider it seems that in the interface 
> of mailman still refers to the server of the old provider. In the interface of 
> mailman I do not see a place where I can modify this. Also the new provider does not 
> know where I can change this. 
> 
> Does any one have a clue how and where this path can be adjusted in such a way that 
> the links refer to the server of my new provider ?
> 
> I will be grateful for ever.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues

[Mark Sass]

Hey All,
I am new to Mailman - just downloaded it last night, and I am having some 
problems configuring the sendmail portion of it.  Some background information:

Mailman V2.1.5
Sendmail 8.11.2/8.12.2
Python 2.3.3
Apache 1.3.14
mod_python 2.7.10
Suse 7.3 which installed Sendmail and Apache

The Apache/mod-python has problems in that it does not like the the no extension on 
the python scripts, but if I rename them to admin.py they work fine.  This is an 
Apache problem, but I will ask - how do I get apache to recognize the scripts to be 
scripts and not try to download them?  My biggest problem is that whenever I send 
email to one of the aliases created I get this error:


May 18 11:52:32 hostname procmail[32308]: Unknown user "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post mailman"
May 18 11:52:32 hostname sendmail[32307]: i4IGqWp32306: to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post mailman", delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30220, dsn=5.1.1, 
stat=User unknown


I see the smrsh in the /usr/lib/sendmail.d/bin directory, and I have made the changes 
to the Mprog setting in sendmail.cf to use it instead of the /bin/sh, but nothing 
seems to work.  The current configuration uses a smart host for all outside email, and 
I can successfully send email back and forth from 'real' users on the system with no 
problems.  I know there is probably a simple solution, but all the articles I have 
read over the past 24 hours (worked about 8 hours on this) have not helped.  Can 
someone point me to a very detailed troubleshooting article about this or can help me 
troubleshoot it?  I am contemplating upgrading Sendmail to 8.12.11.  Any suggestions?

Your help is appreciated.

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] Scrubber question

[Kory Wheatley]

I'm currently using Mailman 2.1.4 with Postfix on a Red Hat Enterprise 
Ver3 workstation.

I installed the scrubber patch[904850], to use it to save attachments to 
be viewed in the archives, and this leads me to my question.  How would 
I be able to have mailman remove attachments being sent to the mailing 
lists to subscribers personal emails, but still have scrubber save it as 
an attachment link in the archives.  I know you can use content filters 
to remove attachments, but when this happens,  the scrubber patch 
doesn't save them in the archive area. 

I tried changing the GLOBAL PIPELINE  by putting "Scrubber" as the first 
handler to be used, but the content filter options must be looked at 
first, before scrubber can put the attachment in the archives, because 
I'm having the content filter strip out any image attachments, but I 
would like this image attachments to be viewable in the archives.

Basically, I want the email messages to be stripped from attachments, 
(because of size reasons), but have the attachments still be viewable in 
the archives, using scrubber.

Is this possible?  I don't have much Python programming experience.
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[Mailman-Users] qrunner running away (Mailman 2.0.11)

[Paul Smith]

I know this is a really old version, but I'm hoping someone has some
hints for me on troubleshooting this: upgrading to 2.1.4 or 2.1.5 is on
my TODO list but...


This server has probably 50 lists on it, and it has relatively low
traffic overall.  It's no great shakes hardware-wise (a dual PIII 500MHz
box with 512M RAM), but for a mail server at this level that should be
quite sufficient.  And, in fact, it has been up until fairly recently.
No changes have been made to this box (it's running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE)
or its environment that I can think of.


What's happening is that the qrunner process is sucking down one entire
CPU, with 99% cpu usage.  That same qrunner (python instance) will run
for 30 minutes or more, then it will finish and the box will be idle for a
while, then it will start again.  Mail that used to be delivered almost
instantly now can take up to an hour to get through the box.  Top shows
that the box is not memory starved.  I tried to truss the python process
but I get nothing but break() after break(); no real system calls at
all.  This one process ends up using about 190M.

Does anyone have any ideas about how to debug this problem?  Is there
something stuck in the mail queue which is causing all this havoc?  How
can I find it and get it out of there?


Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] postalias error

[Brian York]

I am using postfix, setting things up according to the readme file for postfix 
in the source code for mailman. When i try to create a list i get the error 
below. 



Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases 
(status: 1, Operation not permitted)


The rest of the error is in the attached file - postaliaserror

Thanks
Brian


Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4



We're sorry, we hit a bug!


If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 


Traceback:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases (status: 
1, Operation not permitted)





Python information:



Variable
Value


sys.version
 2.2.3 (#1, Aug 8 2003, 08:44:02) [GCC 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-13)] 


sys.executable
 /usr/bin/python 


sys.prefix
 /usr 


sys.exec_prefix
 /usr 


sys.path
 /usr 


sys.platform
 linux2 



Environment variables:



Variable
Value


 CONTENT_LENGTH 
153 


HTTP_PRAGMA 
no-cache 


CONTENT_TYPE 
application/x-www-form-urlencoded 


HTTP_COOKIE 
$Version=1; 
servergroup+admin=280200694a36aa4073280034363937326634373936346339613738323934316161343434626266386161656631613233656264;
 $Path="/mailman/" 


SCRIPT_FILENAME 
/var/mailman/cgi-bin/create 


PYTHONPATH 
/var/mailman 


SERVER_SOFTWARE 
Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) 


SERVER_ADMIN 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


SCRIPT_NAME 
/mailman/create 


SERVER_SIGNATURE 
Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at listserv.nku.edu Port 80


 REQUEST_METHOD 
POST 


HTTP_HOST 
listserv.nku.edu 


SERVER_PROTOCOL 
HTTP/1.1 


QUERY_STRING 


HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL 
no-cache 


REQUEST_URI 
/mailman/create 


HTTP_ACCEPT 
text/html, image/jpeg, image/png, text/*, image/*, */* 


HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET 
iso-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.5, *;q=0.5 


HTTP_USER_AGENT 
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.2; Linux) (KHTML, like Gecko) 


HTTP_CONNECTION 
Keep-Alive 


HTTP_REFERER 
http://listserv.nku.edu/mailman/create 


SERVER_NAME 
listserv.nku.edu 


REMOTE_ADDR 
172.31.101.4 


REMOTE_PORT 
19492 


HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE 
en 


UNIQUE_ID 
UMoDLcB67UYAABBShaoD 


SERVER_PORT 
80 


GATEWAY_INTERFACE 
CGI/1.1 


HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING 
x-gzip, x-deflate, gzip, deflate 


SERVER_ADDR 
172.31.101.70 


DOCUMENT_ROOT 
/var/www/html 
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[Mailman-Users] Force a probe message?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:
Anyone know if there is a way to force a probe message to go out for a 
subscriber?

I have a subscriber who's mail appears to be bouncing ... but it's going 
back to the original author of the message and not the list address.

I'd like to force their subscription into such a state as a probe 
message is sent out so it can be disabled if the email address is indeed 
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Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help, how to copy list members to other list

[Todd]

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SaidaOnline.net wrote:
> I need a way to copy the members from one list to other one

I'd use list_members to dump the member list from the first list and
then sync_members or add_members to add them to the other list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] response messages to mailing list

[Todd]

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Richard Widman wrote:
> I'm having trouble with the mailing list.  If anyone who receives an
> email from the list responds, it automatically sends that message to
> everyone on the list instead of holding it for approval.  How can I
> turn this off?

You need to set all members moderation flags.  You can do this on the
membership management page.  There is also a very detailed FAQ entry
titled "How do I create a newsletter/announcement/one-way list?"  You
might find that helpful in tuning your list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I get started

[Todd]

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Carter Bing wrote:
> I just installed a red hat server with the mailman package. I have
> been trying to find a good working manual on the how tos of setting
> up and running the software but can seem to locate on their website.
> Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find a
> set of good instructions with an eye for how to correctly configure
> Apache to work with the software?

You don't mention any versions so I have no idea how new or old your
RedHat and Mailman versions might be.  RedHat's mailman rpms have for
some time now included a file, either README.REDHAT or INSTALL.REDHAT
that detail the post installation steps you must take to get mailman
working with Apache and your MTA.  This file is found in
/usr/share/doc/mailman-, along with other mailman
documentation from the source distribution.

One tip, if you are running RH 9, be especially sure you upgrade to
the latest errata.  You'll save yourself some headaches that way.

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[Mailman-Users] help, how to copy list members to other list

[SaidaOnline.net]

Dear Sir

I am a user for mailman
I moderate about 12 mailman lists
I need a way to copy the members from one list to other one
I used to copy one page (letter) by one its too hard and take alot of 
time.

If it used mysql database I could dump it but I don't know where the 
data stored.

thanks

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[Mailman-Users] How do I get started

[Carter Bing]

Greetings,

 

I just installed a red hat server with the mailman package. I have been
trying to find a good working manual on the how tos of setting up and
running the software but can seem to locate on their website. Can someone
point me in the right direction as to where to find a set of good
instructions with an eye for how to correctly configure Apache to work with
the software?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Carter

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[Mailman-Users] membership archive

[carlos h]

Hi. I'm trying to archive a list of members in an easy format where I can
just cut and paste the 123 + email addresses I have and add them to a new
email list system. As of now, I need to click on A, B, C and so on and cut
and paste each email address from each alphabetical category. With 123
members, that will take a while. Is there a text file with this info that
is located somewhere in the systen that I can access? Thanks alot,

Carlos

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[Mailman-Users] Don't smack the newbie... 3 questions in one

[Dennis Kuhlmeier]

Hi there,
I of course first searched the list archives but somehow did not find  
exactly what i was looking for.
So please help me ;)

I just switched to Mailman 2.1.5 from a 2.0.x version and am not yet quite  
sure if i like the way it works with all these python processes running  
all the time, but well, now to the questions (allthough I know of the risk  
of asking more than question at time, I hope all will be answered, but  
number concerns me most atm)

1. Why does Mailman add a blank Cc: header to all mails posted to the  
lists I created on the server, except the "Mailman" list itself? I have  
set an Explicit Reply To: header to all of them, but that should not be  
the cause, as I added one the Mailman list and it still does not add that  
header...

2. Lists created via the admin webpage cannot accept mail (user unknown).  
I know that mailman can now accept mail without having to add all the  
aliases (how is that actually supposed to work), but on my system it just  
won't work without these aliases. Why can that be? (running all lists by  
using newlist und adding the aliases, which works fine)
found this FAQ entry, but adding virtual hosts didn't help :(

3. damn, i'm sure there was a third question, but i must have forgotten  
it

tnx to all who can help and are willing to do so!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] suggest about default at admindb.py from DEFER to DISCARD

[Andres Seco Hernandez]

Thanks a lot, Lloyd. That is exactly the option i was looking for.
I am sorry, i have not found it after a lot of searching. I was using
some old versions of mailman for a long time, and i search a lot in this
recent version for new functionalities.

El 15 May 2004 a las 12:29PM -0700, Lloyd F. Tennison escribio:
> Why don't you set the value in the admin console in the first place?  
> Under Sender filters, near the bottom:
> 
> Action to take for postings from non-members for which no 
> explicit action is defined. 
> Set it to discard.
> Or use this patch already made to discard all:
> [ mailman-Patches-810675 ] Add 'Discard all messages marked
>   "Defer"'
> 
> 
> 
> Date sent:Thu, 13 May 2004 00:31:57 +0200
> From: Andres Seco Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Copies to:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [Mailman-Users] suggest about default at admindb.py from DEFER 
> to
>   DISCARD
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I have not found a link to send this wish as a bug in the bug tracking
> > system at sf.net. I am sorry. Perhaps this is not the correct way, but i
> > will try it.
> > 
> > As a lot of pending request to mailman lists are from automatic virus or
> > spammers, sometimes is necesary (because of the volume) to have a
> > default option at DISCARD of the pending messages. Any time i update
> > mailman i need to patch manually admindb.py at line 393 from
> > 
> > (1, 0, 0, 0))
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > (0, 0, 0, 1))
> > 
> > that is, i need to DISCARD pending messages to avoid great grow of it
> > (too much spam and too much virus). I can not read about 1000 messages
> > per week looking for valid messages from people not subscribed to the
> > list when almost all messages (really all the messages) are not valid
> > and i want to discard all of it.
> > 
> > It may be a good option to be added in the config page of a list (do you
> > want pending messages to be discarded by default?).
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for this good mail list manager.
> > 
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[Mailman-Users] response messages to mailing list

[Richard Widman]

I'm having trouble with the mailing list.  If anyone who receives an email from the 
list responds, it automatically sends that message to everyone on the list instead of 
holding it for approval.  How can I turn this off?

thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Problem accessing membership management

[Con Wieland]

While running 2.1.4 I get the following when trying to access the 
Membership Management module from the admin page. This only happens on 
one list on a server with ~400 lists.

ideas?
Con Wieland


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 501, in 
show_results
form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 873, in 
membership_options
all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa0 in position 
16: ordinal not in range(128)



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[Mailman-Users] RE: Mass Add digest members

[Will Froning]

Change the default delivery mode to Digest in the "Digest Options" page,  
and then import the users from the Mass Sub page.

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[Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner runaway

[Richard B. Pyne]

I am running Mailman version 2.1.1 and I just noticed that 

qrunner /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner 
--runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s

is chewing up all available cpu time. I don't recall seeing this 
before. Mailman has been running on this machine for over two 
years.

Can someone give me some hints on where to start looking for the 
problem.

Thanks in advance.

--Richard

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Add digest members

[Ed Greenberg]

Thanks to all for the suggestions. On most of my lists, on my own server, I 
would just use the command line. The list in question is on somebody else's 
server. I talked him into moving from ezmlm to mailman, and I don't want to 
bother him more than necessary.

Thanks,

--On Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:16 AM -0400 Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Ed Greenberg wrote:
I know that I can add a file-full of digest members from the command
line, but can I do so from the web GUI? I don't see how, on the Mass
Subscribe page. Am I missing something?
Nope.  There's no option for this now that I know of.  Rod's technique
is the most viable if you don't have command line access.  If you do
this a lot and want to add an option like this to the web gui, it'd be
pretty easy.  Something like the below patch would get you an option
to do this.
- --- mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py~   Wed Dec 24 12:27:45 2003
+++ mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py  Mon May 17 23:31:53 2004
@@ -1158,6 +1158,15 @@
 ])
 table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, bgcolor=GREY)
 table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 1, bgcolor=GREY)
+table.AddRow([
+Label(_('Subscribe these users for digest delivery?')),
+RadioButtonArray('subscribe_as_digest',
+ (_('No'), _('Yes')),
+ mlist.digest_is_default,
+ values=(0, 1))
+])
+table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, bgcolor=GREY)
+table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 1, bgcolor=GREY)
 table.AddRow([Italic(_('Enter one address per line below...'))])
 table.AddCellInfo(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, colspan=2)
 table.AddRow([Center(TextArea(name='subscribees',
@@ -1307,7 +1316,7 @@
 # Default is to subscribe
 subscribe_or_invite = safeint('subscribe_or_invite', 0)
 invitation = cgidata.getvalue('invitation', '')
- -digest = mlist.digest_is_default
+digest = safeint('subscribe_as_digest', mlist.digest_is_default)
 if not mlist.digestable:
 digest = 0
 if not mlist.nondigestable:
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[Mailman-Users] Installing on freeBSD 5.2 with sendmail

[Tegshjargal.A]

Hi All!
I install mailman-2.1.4 from ports of freeBSD 5.2 with sendmail.
But didn't work. I can't find directory "smrsh".
P help me

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[Mailman-Users] mailman problem

[mehmood hasan]

Hi
I configured the mailman, I am facing some problems like that,
Creation of new mail list is successfull and it also subscribe users added 
for that list and confirm their subscription through e-mail
but when I send e-mail "[EMAIL PROTECTED] "to the list "cit" created the 
following error occures

"
The original message was received at
Tue, 18 May 2004 17:47:36 +0600
from [192.168.1.228]
  - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post cit"
   (reason: Service unavailable)
   (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
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I edit the " /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py" like that
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/html/'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'uaar.edu.pk'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.uaar.edu.pk'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
and made the following enteries in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file
##Mailman Aliases
ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/"
Alias /pipermail/ "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public/"

 Options FollowSymLinks

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman "confirm" script for Mac OS Mail.app

[Jim Tittsler]

I've written a small AppleScript that will send the "confirm" email 
responses to Mailman administrative requests.  Select one or more 
messages and then run the script from OS X Mail.app's script menu.  (By 
default the confirmation "discards", but you could put the "Approved: 
{list-password]" at the start of the generated reply's content to make 
a trivial variant that would approve the selected messages.)
  http://www.OnJapan.net/mac/
  http://www.OnJapan.net/mac/Mailman%20Cancel.applescript

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Where to set list so that owner approval is (not) required for new subscriberss

[James Sinnamon]

Jim,

Thanks for your your prompt reply.

On Tue, 18 May 2004 04:08 pm, you wrote:
> On May 18, 2004, at 14:42, James Sinnamon wrote:
> > Can you tell me what the option, to (not) require owner aproval for
> > new  subscription requests, should look like?  And where should it be?
> >
> > If I can't find it, do I need to see the site administrator?
> >
> > I am using mailman version 2.0.7
>
> That is a very old version of Mailman.  You really should update.

Thanks for the suggestion. At the moment I am using an
 ISP's list server, but soon I will putting one on my 
own (RH 9.0) Linux server at home.

>
> At least with 2.0.13, the option is the second one on the Privacy
> Options page.
> What steps are required for subscription?
>
> confirm   require approvalconfirm+approval
>
> You want the first, 'confirm'.

That's what I needed.  Don't know why I couln't see it before.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

James

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