Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure Mailman to just send news letters

[Brad Knowles]

At 2:52 PM -0700 2004/05/26, Andreas Sheriff wrote:
 Does anyone know how to configure Mailman to just send newsletters?
 The documentation is kinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/non-existent when it comes to that.
What do you mean by "just send newsletters"?
	Have you seen the page at 
?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors

[Richard Barrett]

On 26 May 2004, at 22:57, Mark Smith wrote:
Hi,
I don't understand this message.
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"
 (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
- Transcript of session follows -
Mailman error: post got bad listname: mug
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"... unknown mailer error 1

It means that although there was an alias which told your MTA to pass 
the message for that alias to Mailman's delivery script called 'post', 
the script failed when it tried to access the data structures 
associated with the list named 'mug'. You will find the message 
probably originates from $prefix/scripts/post around line 75 in the 
main() function if you are running MM 2.0.13

Does the list exist? Is the alias definition used by your MTA correct?
You do not say whether this is a new installation of Mailman or an 
established one which was working OK and is now giving problems, 
whether this is a new list or an existing list that did work and is now 
giving problems. Has anything significant changed/happened to the 
installation concerned that might have caused problems to start 
occuring? Have you tried running $prefix/bin/check_perms?

As a word of guidance, it is a good idea to mention what version of 
Mailman software you are having the problem with; from the error text 
it looks like you are running MM 2.0.x which is getting on a bit.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure Mailman to just send news letters

[Richard Barrett]

On 26 May 2004, at 22:52, Andreas Sheriff wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know how to configure Mailman to just send newsletters?
The documentation is kinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/non-existent when it comes to 
that.

Why not try reading the FAQ, whose URL is at the bottom of each mail 
sent out by the mailman-users list?

For instance a search for 'newsletter' will get you to this page:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors

[Andreas Sheriff]

Dunno,

I'm new to mailman myself.  Just today, in fact.
For some reason, Mailman isn't recognizing your list.  Try list_lists in
your mailman/bin to see if mug is actually there.

Andreas

If this is the first email to me,
please place NOSPAM somewhere
in the subject.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andreas Sheriff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors


> Andreas,
>
>
> How would I fix this? mug was the name of a lists I created.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 15:00, Andreas Sheriff wrote:
> > mug is not the name of a list.
> >
> > Andreas
> > 
> > If this is the first email to me,
> > please place NOSPAM somewhere
> > in the subject.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:57 PM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Errors
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I don't understand this message.
> > >
> > > - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > > "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"
> > >  (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> > >
> > > - Transcript of session follows -
> > > Mailman error: post got bad listname: mug
> > > 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"... unknown mailer error 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
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> > > 909-593-3511 x4344
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when
> > > there is nothing more to remove".
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> > > The Art of UNIX Programming
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors

[Andreas Sheriff]

mug is not the name of a list.

Andreas

If this is the first email to me,
please place NOSPAM somewhere
in the subject.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Errors


> Hi,
>
> I don't understand this message.
>
> - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"
>  (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>
> - Transcript of session follows -
> Mailman error: post got bad listname: mug
> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"... unknown mailer error 1
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Mark Smith
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[Mailman-Users] Errors

[Mark Smith]

Hi,

I don't understand this message.

- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"
 (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

- Transcript of session follows -
Mailman error: post got bad listname: mug
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mug"... unknown mailer error 1




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[Mailman-Users] How to configure Mailman to just send news letters

[Andreas Sheriff]

Hi,

Does anyone know how to configure Mailman to just send newsletters?
The documentation is kinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/non-existent when it comes to that.

Andreas
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approval message loops around and is seen as a bounce

[Brett Thorson]

Turns out that others have had this problem.  I finally solved it when I
found that there were some lists that were working.  

The problem was that in some places (on multiple servers) I had

listname-owner -> listname-admin

so when mailman sent a message out, it didn't get rewritten to the
owner, but came back in on an address that made it look like a bounce. 
Not good.

I ran the genaliases program in the bin directory, ran that through AWK
and blew away all of my old aliases files (on multiple servers!) and now
all appears to be well.

So if you have this problem.  Make sure that all your aliases are
parallel (in an Euclidean geometry kind of way :-)

--Brett


On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:30, Brett Thorson wrote:
> I just upgraded mailman from 2.0.something to 2.1.5.  Everything went
> really well (thanks, that was great).  However, I am running into one
> weird even that is occurring.
> 
> When a non-user sends a message that requires approval.  The approval
> message gets sent from listname-owner to listname-owner.  This address
> because of the setup I have actually gets routed off the box and then
> returns.  And I think it is the returning to the box that makes mailman
> think that the message actually bounced.  It seems to me that mailman
> should replace the To:listname-owner with the actual address of the list
> owner.
> 
> Below is the (Bounce message (approval message (message to approve)))
> encapsulated messages that have me mostly puzzled.
> 
> Any help?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --Brett
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  To: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 
> Uncaught bounce
> notification
>Date: 
> Tue, 25 May 2004
> 16:08:15 -0400
> 
> The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce
> format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted
> from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all
> unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s).
> 
> For more information see:
> https://www1.ihavechangedthedomain.org/mailman/admin/stan-test/bounce
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
>  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: 
> Stan-test
> post from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> requires
> approval
>  Date: 
> Tue, 25 May
> 2004
> 15:50:43
> -0400
> 
> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
> following mailing list posting:
> 
> List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: test post
> Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list
> 
> At your convenience, visit:
> 
> https://www1.ihavechangedthedomain.org/mailman/admindb/stan-test
> 
> to approve or deny the request.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: 
> test post
>  Date: 
> Tue, 25 May
> 2004
> 15:40:46
> -0400
> 
> Received: from odin.ihavechangedthedomain.org ([132.151.1.176]
> helo=ihavechangedthedomain.org)
> by megatron.ihavechangedthedomain.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sudden mass of unsubscribe notices?

[Al Black]

On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 11:13, Sean Robertson wrote:
> An email was sent out through our email list two days ago, and just now
> I got 33 unsubscribe notices.  The notices offer no explanation of
> whether the users did it, an admin did it, or it was some kind of
> automatic process.  Is there any way to find out?  What could cause it
> to suddenly delete 33 subscriptions all at exactly the same time two
> days after the last newsletter went out? 

Looking in the log files will help you find out:

~/usr/local/mailman/logs/subscribe

(or where you put mailman)

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[Mailman-Users] Large Installations

[Art Zemon]

Folks,
I am considering moving a large-ish Lyris ListManager installation to 
Mailman. Right now, we are running 435 lists with an average of 97 
subscribers per list. The largest lists have over 7000 subscribers.

We are processing a bit under 200 list messages per day which comes to a 
bit under 20,000 outgoing email messages per day.

If you have experience with a large Mailman installation that is similar 
to this, please let me know how it is running and what you are running 
it on (e.g., what hardware? are you using sendmail or something else?).

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[Mailman-Users] Sudden mass of unsubscribe notices?

[Sean Robertson]

An email was sent out through our email list two days ago, and just now
I got 33 unsubscribe notices.  The notices offer no explanation of
whether the users did it, an admin did it, or it was some kind of
automatic process.  Is there any way to find out?  What could cause it
to suddenly delete 33 subscriptions all at exactly the same time two
days after the last newsletter went out?  Needless to say, this is a
rather critical issue.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement + HTML

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:58 PM +0200 2004/05/26, Kobus Myburgh wrote:
 1) Be an announcement only list (only admins may post to the list)
See .
 2) On replying to a mail you received, it replies to -unsubscribe (this
 seems to work already!)
Then this problem seems to be resolved.
 3) Be able to send HTML attachments, and how do I send that attachment
 properly so that it will automatically open as HTML on e-mail clients
 that support that, i.e. outlook-ish clients. We don't want the user to
 have to open the attachment automatically - we want it to automatically
 open up in HTML readible way if the e-mail client can support it.
	Then post in HTML and don't strip it.  All Mailman does is strip 
things that you configure it to strip.  If you don't configure it to 
strip anything, then whatever you post goes through unchanged.

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[Mailman-Users] Announcement + HTML

[Kobus Myburgh]

Hello,

Can anybody point me to documentation with regards to how to set up
mailmail (2.1.3) to function as follows:

1) Be an announcement only list (only admins may post to the list)
2) On replying to a mail you received, it replies to -unsubscribe (this
seems to work already!)
3) Be able to send HTML attachments, and how do I send that attachment
properly so that it will automatically open as HTML on e-mail clients
that support that, i.e. outlook-ish clients. We don't want the user to
have to open the attachment automatically - we want it to automatically
open up in HTML readible way if the e-mail client can support it.

I have played around with many options, but I can't see anything that
SPECIFICALLY states #1 and #3 of the options that I want to do. Any
advice or pointers to documentation will be appreciated...

Regards,

Kobus


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