RE: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions
Mark said This is a per-user setting with a per-list default. The setting on the user's options page is Get MIME or Plain Text Digests? Thanks for the pointers Mark. I must be misunderstanding this though. If it's a per-user setting shouldn't I be able to go into MM Users and change my own settings? I don't see anywhere to do that. I see where I can do that in the Admin of my own list. But how can I change my personal setting in THIS list? I orginally chose digest but I don't want it in MIME and I see nowhere to edit that preference. Thanks again for helping a newbie. I've now read through the FAQ. Sheila -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Compile Problem: msgmerge/gettext wants automake 1.8?!
Aaron The Young wrote: Solaris 8 has no msgmerge. You have to install GNU gettext. Or, you can download latest messages/Makefile.in from CVS (Release_2_1-maint branch) and restart installation from 'configure'. Sorry my comment was inaccurate. Actually, you can safely skip the msgerge step when installing. msgmerge is needed for the translaters but not for the site managers. New Makefile.in in CVS skips this step if msgmerge is not available or get some error. You have to install GNU gettext only if you want to translate and use msgmerge which is included in the GNU distro. Python gettext.py is included in the mailman distribution. You can get the latest CVS for the Release_2_1-maint by $ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/mailman \ co -r Release_2_1-maint mailman Well, by deduction and some searching I was able to figure out I needed gettext. Thanks. However, it appears gettext needs automake 1.8 and all I can get my hands on is 1.8b and 1.9. When I try to run make, I get: (snip) -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions
Thanks Tokio! That sure isn't intuitive IMHO! I saw unsubscribe and stayed clear. Didn't see that it also says edit! Perhaps a suggestion for future release? I can't believe I'm the only one who misses that. Thank you Sheila -Original Message- From: Tokio Kikuchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 6:39 AM To: Sheila Hoffman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions Hi, Sheila Hoffman wrote: Mark said This is a per-user setting with a per-list default. The setting on the user's options page is Get MIME or Plain Text Digests? Thanks for the pointers Mark. I must be misunderstanding this though. If it's a per-user setting shouldn't I be able to go into MM Users and change my own settings? I don't see anywhere to do that. I see where I can do that in the Admin of my own list. But how can I change my personal setting in THIS list? I orginally chose digest but I don't want it in MIME and I see nowhere to edit that preference. You should enter your mail address near the bottom of the listinfo page (unsubscribe or edit options) and get prompted for your password. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Problem with Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS
Hello, please, anybody help. One of our customers us using a Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS. Yes, we dont like it, too. If this customer send a mail to two lists in to:-field, the mailman distributes the mail correctly on both lists. Persons, which are on both lists, get only one email. The problem is, that the M$-server deletes one mail because they have the same rcpt and message-id. We are providing over 200 lists and have no problems at all. But this customers is sure, that this is a mailman-bug. I need support to argumentate. Is here anybody who is working with M$-exchange? Or is here anybody who can proof, that it should be no problem to have 2 mails with same rcpt and same msg-id? I found a thread in 2002 describing this problem but not solving. ( http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-March/018122.html ) thank you kelly. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman URL and listinfo
I see my public lists when using mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo, but not when using www.mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo. I have the appropriate info in the virtual host directive in mm_cfg.py. What else affects this? Thanks! - John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS
Jan Kellermann wrote: We are providing over 200 lists and have no problems at all. But this customers is sure, that this is a mailman-bug. I need support to argumentate. Is here anybody who is working with M$-exchange? Or is here anybody who can proof, that it should be no problem to have 2 mails with same rcpt and same msg-id? IMO, the real question is why does the customer think it is a problem to not receive two copies of a message which differ possibly only in the subject prefix and list specific headers, headings and footers. Exchange thinks they are two copies of the same message, and in many respects they are. If you are going to use software that insists on implementing Micro$ofts view of how things should work without giving you any control, then you're stuck with what you get. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML capability
John Brooks wrote: I have a client wanting to send HTML based email to a closed read-only list. Can mailman handle this? Yes -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] HTML capability - Archives
I had a lot of trouble with the archives when I tried to archive html emails...none of the text showed up in the archive and all that did show up were image scrubbed type messages. Did I do something improperly in my archive set-up? I can't find a setting for it in the Archive options. I'm running 2.1.5. on a redhat9 machine using apache 2.0.51 Thanks Shane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML capability John Brooks wrote: I have a client wanting to send HTML based email to a closed read-only list. Can mailman handle this? Yes -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:02:48AM -0700, Robert Haack wrote: Ok, I got the patch and applied it and I checked the source files and the patches are applied. Then I tried it out and it didn't work so it dawned on me that I need to compile it first. I've tried to compile it but I get the following error: Normally you would apply it to the source of Mailman, and the 'make install' step would compile it for you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gui]# python -O GUIBase.py (I've tried it with and without the -O) Traceback (most recent call last): File GUIBase.py, line 22, in ? from Mailman import mm_cfg ImportError: No module named Mailman I suspect you are applying it directly to your Mailman installation. The easiest thing to do would be to just remove the old GUIBase.pyc file. If the directory has mailman group write permissions, the compiled file will be automatically written the next time it is used. (And remember to restart mailman patching.) Ok, I deleted the files GUIBase.pyc, GUIBase.pyo, Moderate.pyc, and Moderate.pyo. Then just to make sure that Mailman was restarted I rebooted the server. (I know I could have done this differently but it was late and I was too lazy to do it another way). But this still is not working for me. I did check the the GUIBase.pyc and Moderate.pyc files are now back so I know that they recompiled themselves. Here is what I have done. 1) I created a list called test and subscribed myself using my work email address. 2) I created another list called Auth_users and I subscribed myself using my home email address. 3) I went into the test list serv under Privacy Options, Sender Filters and input @Auth_users in the accept these non-members. Then I send a message from my home email address and I get a message back telling me the my message has to be approved by the moderator. So what's going on and why didn't it go through? Thank You -- Robert Haack Programmer Analyst North Clackamas School District #12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS
Hello Mark! We are providing over 200 lists and have no problems at all. But this customers is sure, that this is a mailman-bug. I need support to argumentate. Is here anybody who is working with M$-exchange? Or is here anybody who can proof, that it should be no problem to have 2 mails with same rcpt and same msg-id? If you are going to use software that insists on implementing Micro$ofts view of how things should work without giving you any control, then you're stuck with what you get. Yes, that's exactly our point of view. But it doesnt help :( The customer want to get both messages and the mailprovider says, it's our I need a hint to a RFC, that M$ should not delete this message or sth. like this. Greetings Kelly. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] subscribe + approve over email?
Hello, Is there a way to issue an email command that will subscribe an address and automatically approve the subscription if the list is set up to require approval for subscriptions? Thanks! Kristina Clair -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:02:48AM -0700, Robert Haack wrote: Ok, I got the patch and applied it and I checked the source files and the patches are applied. Then I tried it out and it didn't work so it dawned on me that I need to compile it first. I've tried to compile it but I get the following error: Normally you would apply it to the source of Mailman, and the 'make install' step would compile it for you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gui]# python -O GUIBase.py (I've tried it with and without the -O) Traceback (most recent call last): File GUIBase.py, line 22, in ? from Mailman import mm_cfg ImportError: No module named Mailman I suspect you are applying it directly to your Mailman installation. The easiest thing to do would be to just remove the old GUIBase.pyc file. If the directory has mailman group write permissions, the compiled file will be automatically written the next time it is used. (And remember to restart mailman patching.) Ok, I deleted the files GUIBase.pyc, GUIBase.pyo, Moderate.pyc, and Moderate.pyo. Then just to make sure that Mailman was restarted I rebooted the server. (I know I could have done this differently but it was late and I was too lazy to do it another way). But this still is not working for me. I did check the the GUIBase.pyc and Moderate.pyc files are now back so I know that they recompiled themselves. Here is what I have done. 1) I created a list called test and subscribed myself using my work email address. 2) I created another list called Auth_users and I subscribed myself using my home email address. 3) I went into the test list serv under Privacy Options, Sender Filters and input @Auth_users in the accept these non-members. Then I send a message from my home email address and I get a message back telling me the my message has to be approved by the moderator. So what's going on and why didn't it go through? Thank You Ok, this gets more curious now. I created another list called Authorized and I put my alternate email address in that list. Then I changed the test list so so that the accept these non-members had @authorized. I got one message through but then I could not longer seem to get into the lists test or authorized via the web interface or via the command line. So I deleted both of these lists and started fresh. I created test as a list again but this time I gave my authorized list a new name, nclack. I then made it so that @nclack was sin the Accept these non-members. I sent two messages, one as a member of the list test and then the other as the user I input in the nclack list. I got no messages at all, so I stopped Mailman and then restarted it. Within two minutes I had both of my emails. I'm not sure what is going on here but I found this rather odd. -- Robert Haack Programmer Analyst North Clackamas School District #12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] local network
hi all has anyone had any experience with contacting the web admin pages using a local network address with the earlier version of mailman the users (who also happen to be list admin ) who were on the local network (behind the router) were able to access the admin pages by substituting 192.168.x.x instead of the list url and this all worked fine after upgrading to 2.1.5 this no longer works as many links seem to be absolute rather than relative urls by making an entry in the hosts file of the local machine 192.168.x.xpublic url we were able to gain access but the authorisation still dosent work correctly keeps asking for password and they cannot add mambers. any ideas fred -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS
Jan Kellermann wrote: We are providing over 200 lists and have no problems at all. But this customers is sure, that this is a mailman-bug. I need support to argumentate. Is here anybody who is working with M$-exchange? Or is here anybody who can proof, that it should be no problem to have 2 mails with same rcpt and same msg-id? If you are going to use software that insists on implementing Micro$ofts view of how things should work without giving you any control, then you're stuck with what you get. Yes, that's exactly our point of view. But it doesnt help :( The customer want to get both messages and the mailprovider says, it's our I need a hint to a RFC, that M$ should not delete this message or sth. like this. I can't offhand point to any RFC or other standard practice document that would help you here, but I can suggest the following argument. Suppose I am a M$ Exchange user with e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a second address [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is set up to forward all incoming mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then someone sends an e-mail, perhaps even using M$ Exchange, addressed to both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] These two messages will have the same Subject:, Date: and Message-Id: headers and my M$ Exchange will delete one of them as a duplicate of the other. If this behavior is wrong, it must be M$ Exchange that is wrong in this case since nothing else is involved other than MTAs which don't change the message. If it is MS Exchange that is wrong in this case, then why would it not be M$ Exchange that is wrong in the Mailman case? I don't know if your customer will accept this logic. Perhaps you've already tried it, but if you haven't, I think it would be worth trying. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Compile Problem: msgmerge/gettext wants automake 1.8?!
Hi, I don't have cvs installed any where. How can I get that other Makefile.in file? Ok, you can download individual files from the sourceforge viewcvs interface. Go to the mailman homepage http://www.list.org/, follow the links; 'SF Project Page' - 'CVS' - 'Browse CVS Repository' and find the file for appropriate version. In this case, you must find message/Makefile.in, Release_2_1-maint. Then click download to get the latest version file. Cheers, -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Bounce problems w/list
JL Reis wrote: Very interesting ... not real helpful, however ;). Especially since over half of my client's listmembers (about seven of fifteen) use comcast. If they aren't getting her updates, the software is useless to her. Since my comcast users all seem to get their list mail, it seems to me more likely that the source domain is at fault rather than the source MLM. I asked originally: :: Is there a way to change the send address of :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to :: something else? Does anyone know? It's always possible with enough hacking of the code, but I know of no easy way, and if you did change it, bounce processing would no longer work. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Editing Welcome messages for individual lists
Is there a way to edit the default part of the welcome message that is sent when a member subscribes on a per list basis? I have a user with a moderated list that wants a welcome message sent to new subscribers but the welcome message tells them how to post to the list, but since they are moderated members the user doesn't want them to post to the list. Thanks Brian York -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Hi,
** Reply Requested When Convenient ** Hi, I all msg's from mailman on my lists starts with the FROM header: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is it possible to change this? Arthur Arthur van der Molen Hogeschooldocent Informatica RIVIO Hogeschool Rotterdam MH 3.337 spreekuur woensdag 08:00 - 09:00 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing Welcome messages for individual lists
Brian York wrote: Is there a way to edit the default part of the welcome message that is sent when a member subscribes on a per list basis? I have a user with a moderated list that wants a welcome message sent to new subscribers but the welcome message tells them how to post to the list, but since they are moderated members the user doesn't want them to post to the list. Visit the FAQ Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read article 4.48 on editing templates. The welcome template is subscribeack.txt -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
