[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4

2005-02-24 Thread Camila Canto
   Hello,
This bug appear when I try to use the tool listinfo in Mailman.
What can I do?
Thanks
Camila Canto

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   Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
   main()
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/roster.py, line 85, in main
   password, addr)
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 220, in 
WebAuthenticate
   ok = self.CheckCookie(ac, user)
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 300, in CheckCookie
   ok = self.__checkone(c, authcontext, user)
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 310, in __checkone
   key, secret = self.AuthContextInfo(authcontext, user)
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 105, in 
AuthContextInfo
   secret = self.getMemberPassword(user)
 File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 102, in 
getMemberPassword
   raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
NotAMemberError: div_d-g


   Python information:
VariableValue
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 6 2003, 13:36:19) [GCC 3.2.2]
sys.executable  /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix  /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr
sys.path/usr
sys.platformlinux-i386

   Environment variables:
Variable 	Value
PATH_INFO 	/div_d-g
CONTENT_LENGTH 	100
CONTENT_TYPE 	application/x-www-form-urlencoded
HTTP_COOKIE 
div_a-c+admin=2802006910871c4273280036363638623066643538633438646662626131396432366538353937333533383731323731383038 

SCRIPT_FILENAME 	/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/roster
PYTHONPATH 	/usr/lib/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE 	Apache/2.0.45 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.45 OpenSSL/0.9.7a 
PHP/4.3.3
SERVER_ADMIN 	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME 	/mailman/roster
SERVER_SIGNATURE 	
Apache/2.0.45 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.45 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PHP/4.3.3 Server at 
www.cps.softex.br Port 80

REQUEST_METHOD 	POST
HTTP_HOST 	www.cps.softex.br
HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 	300
SERVER_PROTOCOL 	HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING 	
PATH_TRANSLATED 	/srv/www/default/html/div_d-g
REQUEST_URI 	/mailman/roster/div_d-g
HTTP_ACCEPT 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 

HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET 	ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
HTTP_USER_AGENT 	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pt-BR; rv:1.7.3) 
Gecko/20040930
HTTP_CONNECTION 	keep-alive
HTTP_REFERER 	http://www.cps.softex.br/mailman/listinfo/div_d-g
SERVER_NAME 	www.cps.softex.br
REMOTE_ADDR 	192.168.1.249
REMOTE_PORT 	33439
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE 	pt-br,pt;q=0.5
UNIQUE_ID 	31jHgciIoRMAADq4Va0E
SERVER_PORT 	80
GATEWAY_INTERFACE 	CGI/1.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING 	gzip,deflate
SERVER_ADDR 	200.136.161.19
DOCUMENT_ROOT 	/srv/www/default/html

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[Mailman-Users] Home-grown filters

2005-02-24 Thread David Wilson
I know a Mailman user who is concerned about slow-connection
subscribers, and for that reason wishes to strip attachments and
truncate or refuse overlong messages.  Does Mailman support
inclusion of home-grown filters to modify incoming messages?
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to add the Description field onthelist create web interface?

2005-02-24 Thread Brian Ensor
Worked perfectly.

Many Thanks!

-Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 February 2005 05:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to add the 
 Description field onthelist create web interface?
 
 Brian Ensor wrote:
 
 I do want to make the description field mandatory on list 
 creation, so
 modifying the Mailman/Cgi/create.py is most likely the route 
 I would like to
 pursue.
 
 In viewing the config and determining the changes to be 
 made, I would be
 editing as follows:
 
 def process_request(doc, cgidata):
 # Lowercase the listname since this is treated as the 
 internal name.
 listname = cgidata.getvalue('listname', '').strip().lower()
 owner= cgidata.getvalue('owner', '').strip()
 # Added following line to support description field
 description = cgidata.getvalue('description', '').strip()
 
 
 Looks OK
 
 
 # Sanity Check
 # Added following line to support description field
 if not description:
 request_creation(doc, cgidata,
  _('You forgot to specify the list 
 description'))
 return
 
 
 The issue here is _() is an i18n method to substitute text in the
 appropriate language for the English text. As long as you're only
 dealing in English, this won't be a problem, but this message won't be
 available in other languages.
 
 
 # And send the notice to the list owner.
# Added description to mlist 
text = Utils.maketext(
 'newlist.txt',
 {'listname': listname,
  'password': password,
  'admin_url'   : mlist.GetScriptURL('admin', absolute=1),
  'listinfo_url': mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo', 
 absolute=1),
  'requestaddr' : mlist.GetRequestEmail(),
  'siteowner'   : siteadmin,
  'description' : description,
  }, mlist=mlist)
 
 
 This only adds 'description' and it's value to the dictionary for
 interpolation into the template. You still need to edit the
 newlist.txt template (see
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp)
 to include appropriate text with '%(description)s' to receive the
 description.
 
 
 # in Dummy section modify page text to indicate requirement 
 for description
 pYou also need to enter the email address of the 
 initial list owner
 and
 a brief description of the list. Once the list is 
 created, the list
 owner
 will be given notification, along with the initial list 
 password.  The
 list owner will then be able to modify the password and 
 add or remove
 additional list owners.
 
 # Also in Dummy section
 safedescription = 
 Utils.websafe(cgidata.getvalue('description', ''))
 ftable.AddRow([Label(_('Brief description of list:')),
TextBox('description', safedescription)])
 ftable.AddCellInfo(ftable.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0, bgcolor=GREY)
 ftable.AddCellInfo(ftable.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 1, bgcolor=GREY)
 
 
 I am not sure if the information above is 100% correct, but 
 I believe it is.
 The part that is not addressed above is the actual list 
 creation.  This is
 called by mlist.Create, which I believe is from the 
 /Mailman/MailList.py
 file.  Here is how I believe the call should be done in create.py to
 accomplish what I want:
 
 # Added description to this command line
 mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost,
 description)
 
 
 Do not change the mlist.Create() call.
 
 
 Now that I am passing another parameter, how can I ensure it 
 is handled
 correctly?  Will there be some changes required in 
 MailList.py or another
 file to make sure the field is handled correctly?  Is description the
 correct name to use?
 
 
 You don't pass the parameter in the Create() call.
 
 You 'update' it after the list is created. Just before the last
 'finally:' in the outer of three 'try:'s around the Create() 
 you'll see
 
 # Initialize the host_name and web_page_url 
 attributes, based on
 # virtual hosting settings and the request environment
 variables.
 mlist.default_member_moderation = moderate
 mlist.web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % hostname
 mlist.host_name = emailhost
 
 add after this and before mlist.Save()
 
 mlist.description = description
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch mismatches

2005-02-24 Thread Sythos
Do you have applied the patch requested as dependencies for HTDIG patch
BEFORE apply HTDIG patch?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] probe message

2005-02-24 Thread Sean


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and postfix 2.0.15.  I noticed some strange
  bounce addresses in the mail logs:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is this how probe messages sent the reply-to/from header to?

 kind of,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 is the VERP return-path used...
 I.e. the Variable Envelope Return Path.

 This is the ''return path'' used on the ENVELOPE, i.e. the
   address used in MAIL FROM: SMTP command.
 This is the address to which bounces are delivered...

 Hence, probes use such 'silly' Envelope FROM: addresses with
   a ''random'' hex. code whatnot in the address to have a reliable
   way of checking that address really does bounce.

Thanks, thats what I thought but wanted confirmation.


 The snag is, your MTA/alias-files/etc MAY not be delivering mail
   with the listname-bounces+45894735478574893 code piped to mailman
   like it's supposed to unless configured correctly.
 Unless this is working, this will break 'automatic disabling and
   unsubscribing' of users with broken/bouncing email addresses.

 I don't know postfix

Yeah, the snag was that Postfix wasn't configured to handle these.  At
some point the 'recipient_delimiter = +' parameter got removed from the
main.cf file.  I've added it back in some these should be processed
correctly now.

Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] probe message

2005-02-24 Thread sean

  I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and postfix 2.0.15.  I noticed some strange
  bounce addresses in the mail logs:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is this how probe messages sent the reply-to/from header to?

 kind of,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 is the VERP return-path used...
 I.e. the Variable Envelope Return Path.

 This is the ''return path'' used on the ENVELOPE, i.e. the
   address used in MAIL FROM: SMTP command.
 This is the address to which bounces are delivered...

 Hence, probes use such 'silly' Envelope FROM: addresses with
   a ''random'' hex. code whatnot in the address to have a reliable
   way of checking that address really does bounce.

Not sure if this is the place to mention this but the README.POSTFIX file
should be updated since the probe messages depend on this feature as well:

In order to support Mailman's optional VERP delivery, you will
want to disable luser_relay (the default) and you will want to set
recipient_delimiter for extended address semantics.  You should
comment out any luser_relay value in your main.cf and just go with
the defaults.  Also, add this to your main.cf file:

recipient_delimiter = +

VERP was not enabled in my installation so I paid no attention to this
guideline.

Sean

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[Mailman-Users] Moving Mailman to New Machine

2005-02-24 Thread Troy Bull
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Greetings Everyone
I am so sorry if this has been answered before, but I googled for it and
couldn't find it.
I have a machine that I am upgrading.  Right now it runs mailman and
works very well.  I am making a complete backup and then going to format
and install a new version of linux.  After which I would like to restore
just the lists and their data.  Mailman its self will be installed with
the new linux version, it comes as a package.   My question is what
directories / folders do i need to put back.
It looks like /usr/local/mailman/lists has the lists data,  if I restore
this directory, and my /etc/aliases file will my lists come back and
start working again?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
troy
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List name not displaying in Mailmanarchives

2005-02-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:17 AM -0600 2005-02-24, Carol Cronin wrote:
 For instance, I have two separate Mailman lists-- ListA and ListB.  ListB is
 the only member subscribed to ListA.  If I send an email to ListA, it will
 archive in both ListA and ListB.
 (But, if I send an email to ListB only, it will not archive in ListA.)
	One thing you could do is to configure ListB so that it will only 
accept messages if they are coming from ListA.  At that point you 
could/should turn off the archive for ListB, because nothing will be 
posted to the list unless it came through ListA, which has it's own 
archive.

	My understanding is that, as an umbrella list, ListA shouldn't 
have any regular recipients subscribed to it -- only other mailing 
lists.  This would also simplify your situation a lot.

 For some lists, I have multiple other lists subscribed.  My problem is that
 if I send an email to ListA, a member of both lists who only reads the
 archives won't be able to tell if the email was sent to ListA or to ListB.
Not the way you've got it configured, no.
 If I can't make the original headers available in the archives, is there a
 way to display the to address?
Not without changing the code in Pipermail, no.
   I notice that both list names will show up
 as they appear in Prefix for subject line of list postings...is there a
 way to make that field exclusive for the email address I'm sending to?
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for.  Could you clarify?
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[Mailman-Users] suspicious header

2005-02-24 Thread Con Wieland
Hello
I have a user receiving the following:
[Fwd: [OCLUG] Internship]
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Message has a suspicious header
Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:
I am assuming it's being caught because of the  [Fwd:   but I am 
unable to see where I can fix this. The list config is very vanilla. 
Any help would be appreciated. I was unable to find anything in the FAQ

TIA
Con Wieland
UC Irvine
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Re: [Mailman-Users] htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch mismatches

2005-02-24 Thread Nick Urbanik
Hello Sythos,

On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:02:00AM +0100, Sythos wrote:
 Do you have applied the patch requested as dependencies for HTDIG patch
 BEFORE apply HTDIG patch?

I didn't at first, as you could see from the first email I sent in
this thread, to which you replied.  But I did as soon as Mark Sapiro
pointed out that I should.  And the RPM has the two patches applied in
the correct order (otherwise it wouldn't build).
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[Mailman-Users] Giant lists

2005-02-24 Thread Tyler Strickland
In the process of researching for better ways to do things with our 
mailman list, I came across the 'Giant Lists' thread of a few weeks ago. 
 Realizing that our list is actually larger than the list mentioned 
(though not by much) and that this is probably a list I should be 
participating in, I decided to sign up.

I'm sorry Cabel, but I'm going to have to take away your 'largest list' 
title.  The AdoptionWeek E-Magazine, currently run with MailMain, 
sendmail, and the MySQL MailmanMemberships patch 
(http://kyrian.ore.org/MailmanMysql/) currently serves 124,329 members. 
 This is a one-message-per-week list with _very_ tight restrictions on 
who can send out, so our load is probably lower than comparable 
discussion lists.

The list was originally converted to Mailman about a year ago by a 
different admin, so I'm not too familiar with how it was initially set 
up.  I do eventually hope to upgrade the server from Solaris an old Sun 
250 to Linux on something modern, though, and when that time comes I'm 
sure I'll be a _very_ active member of the list.

Right now it's taking us roughly 2-3 days to send out a single message 
to our whole list, so if anyone has any sendmail performance tips, I'd 
be glad to hear them.  I'm more of a postfix guy, myself, so sendmail is 
a whole new world for me.

Glad to be aboard!
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[Mailman-Users] Additional role

2005-02-24 Thread Young, Darren
First question, can a moderator add/delete/modify list membership (I
don't believe so, thought that was admin only)?

Second, if not, has anyone created patch(es) to perform this?

Need to split list duties into a more granular level, specifically, we
need to have the ability to allow moderator(s) to manage list
membership. Without being able to actually touch the list configuration.

As in:

UserAdmin   Moderate   MembershipMgmt

[EMAIL PROTECTED]X
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  XX

Or some such thing

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FC3 RPM with htdig patches available.

2005-02-24 Thread Nick Urbanik
Dear Folks,

On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 05:04:34PM +1100, Nick Urbanik wrote:
 And this is not clear to me (from
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103):
 
 5. automatic creation, deletion and maintenance of htdig configuration
 files and such. Beyond installing htdig and telling Mailman where it
 is via mm_cfg
 
 [ How should I do that? ]

I see: I add these lines to ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH = '/usr/bin/htsearch'
HTDIG_RUNDIG_PATH = '/usr/bin/rundig'
USE_HTDIG = 1# 0 - don't use integrated htdig, 1 - use it
 
 you do not have to do any other setup. Well not quite you do have to
 set up a single per installation symlink to allow htdig to find the
 automatically generated per list htdig configuration files.
 
 [ a symlink from what to where? ]

I still don't understand what this means.  I would be grateful for any
help.
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[Mailman-Users] Qrunner Error

2005-02-24 Thread Young, Darren
Mailman 2.1.5 on RedHat EL 3.0... Getting the following error, any
thoughts?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./qrunner -r Outgoing:0:1 -v
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./qrunner, line 270, in ?
main()
  File ./qrunner, line 230, in main
qrunner.run()
  File /home/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
filecnt = self._oneloop()
  File /home/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
  File /home/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in
dequeue
fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/home/mailman-2.1/qfiles/out/1109280212.391001d7f7d15bdb848c85faae16b96
6639956aee33bd6.pck'

Checked, that file really does not exist. Is there an outbound queue
database that can get corrupted?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Giant lists

2005-02-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:15 PM -0700 2005-02-24, Tyler Strickland wrote:
 I'm sorry Cabel, but I'm going to have to take away your 'largest list'
 title.  The AdoptionWeek E-Magazine, currently run with MailMain,
 sendmail, and the MySQL MailmanMemberships patch
 (http://kyrian.ore.org/MailmanMysql/) currently serves 124,329 members.
 This is a one-message-per-week list with _very_ tight restrictions on
 who can send out, so our load is probably lower than comparable
 discussion lists.
I'll update the FAQ.  Thanks!
 The list was originally converted to Mailman about a year ago by a
 different admin, so I'm not too familiar with how it was initially
 set up.  I do eventually hope to upgrade the server from Solaris an
 old Sun 250 to Linux on something modern, though, and when that time
 comes I'm sure I'll be a _very_ active member of the list.
	A Sun E250 is getting pretty old in the tooth by now.  A fast 
Intel-based box would likely be a good candidate for a replacement, 
but keep in mind that your primary limiting factors on a system like 
this are going to be the quantity of RAM that you can stuff into the 
box, and the speed/latency of the underlying disk subsystem, etc

	Personally, Linux would not be my first choice -- I'd go with 
FreeBSD instead.

 Right now it's taking us roughly 2-3 days to send out a single message to
 our whole list, so if anyone has any sendmail performance tips, I'd be
 glad to hear them.  I'm more of a postfix guy, myself, so sendmail is a
 whole new world for me.
	I've tried to encode the majority of my sendmail performance 
tuning tips at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.003.htp, 
most of which comes down to buy the book by Nick Christenson.  My 
own sendmail performance tuning slides pre-date the ones that Nick 
put together, but I was a technical reviewer for the book, and the 
book is definitely better than either of the sets of slides.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mmsearch now python RESOLVED edithtml permissions BCP.

2005-02-24 Thread Gerald
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The integration of htdig with mailman is done with patches. It is not
part of the standard release. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.011.htp
You need to optain and apply the patches
 [ #444879 ] Archive indexer control to improve indexing
 [ #444884 ] Integration of Mailman  htdig for archive search
Thanks for the pointer. I was able to determine that on the FreeBSD
ports collection that translates into simply adding -DWITH_HTDIG to
the install command. FreeBSD ports rock.
Next question/stumbling block. This one seems simple, but I need to know
the proper way to fix this. Apache/httpd runs as user www. Mailman runs
as user mailman. The mailman check_perms file says everything looks ok.
When you try to edit a page from the mailman interface (Edit the Public
HTML pages- General List Information for example-Submit changes),
you get
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
...
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/en/listinfo.html'
ls -al $file = 
-rw-r--r--  1 mailman  mailman  575 Jul 18  2004 /usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/en/listinfo.html

Who typically gives? Apache, mailman, or some unknown by me third option?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Mailman to New Machine

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Troy Bull wrote:

I have a machine that I am upgrading.  Right now it runs mailman and
works very well.  I am making a complete backup and then going to format
and install a new version of linux.  After which I would like to restore
just the lists and their data.  Mailman its self will be installed with
the new linux version, it comes as a package.   My question is what
directories / folders do i need to put back.

It looks like /usr/local/mailman/lists has the lists data,  if I restore
this directory, and my /etc/aliases file will my lists come back and
start working again?

You may need to run newaliases to rebuild the alias database from
/etc/aliases depending on your MTA

Ideally, your system will be quiescent when you make your backup so the
various queue directories in qfiles/ will be empty. Otherwise you may
want to restore these.

If you have archives, you'll want to restore the archives/ directory.

You might want to restore the site password file and list creator
password file if any from the data/ directory or just create new ones
with bin/mmsitepass.

If you want your old Mailman logs, you can restore those.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] suspicious header

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Con Wieland wrote:

I have a user receiving the following:

 [Fwd: [OCLUG] Internship]

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

 Message has a suspicious header
snip

I am assuming it's being caught because of the  [Fwd:   but I am 
unable to see where I can fix this. The list config is very vanilla. 
Any help would be appreciated. I was unable to find anything in the FAQ

No. it is being held because some header in the message matched one of
the legacy spam filters. These are bounce_matching headers on the
Privacy options...-Spam filters page. The actual header is
intentionally not reported back to the poster.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-24 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
Just wondered if someone can look at the following for me.
Mailman sent the following traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 94, in ?
main()
  File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 87, in main
mlist.Save()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 525, in Save
self.__save(dict)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 497, in __save
os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last'

	It was emailed to the mailman user on the server. It seems to 
be something to do with the digest sending, but other than than, I 
can't see anything.
	I get a similar sort of message (though nothing to do with 
digests) when I go to either the admin or listinfo page in the web 
interface. Should the web interface work for the actual mailman 
master list or is it limited to running from a command line?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Additional role

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote:

First question, can a moderator add/delete/modify list membership (I
don't believe so, thought that was admin only)?

Only an admin can do this, but just to be sure we're on the same page,
who is an admin and who is a moderator in this context is determined
by who knows which list admin|moderator password. It has nothing to do
with who's address in in which list attribute.

Second, if not, has anyone created patch(es) to perform this?

I'm not aware of any.

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-24 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	Additionally, I should add in addition to my last email that 
Mailman is otherwise working fine, including sending out list 
messages as well as the web interface.
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[Mailman-Users] htdig search patch #444884: What symlinks are required?

2005-02-24 Thread Nick Urbanik
Dear Folks,

I have built a mailman RPM for FC3 as mentioned earlier.  It seems to
be working except for this item on
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103
(the htdig patch #444884).

On that page it is written:

This patch integrates htdig with Mailman and provides:

[snip]

5. automatic creation, deletion and maintenance of htdig configuration
files and such. Beyond installing htdig and telling Mailman where it
is via mm_cfg you do not have to do any other setup. Well not quite
you do have to set up a single per installation symlink to allow htdig
to find the automatically generated per list htdig configuration
files.

THE QUESTION: What symlinks are required from what to where?

Sorry to be such an idiot, but I really haven't worked it out yet, and
would really appreciate some further hints.  I'm new to mailman and
htdig administration.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro

Terry Allen wrote:

   Just wondered if someone can look at the following for me.
   Mailman sent the following traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 94, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 87, in main
 mlist.Save()
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 525, in Save
 self.__save(dict)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 497, in __save
 os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last'


This error is occurring when Mailman is trying the save the current
configuration for the mailman list. It has saved it to a temp name and
now is trying to rotate the files - i.e. remove config.pck.last, and
rename config.pck to config.pck.last and the temp name to config.pck,
but its attempt to unlink config.pck.last results in the above.

See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041634.html
and the reply at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041646.html
or see the following google search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=safe=offq=site%3Amail.python.org+%22errno+22%22+config.pckbtnG=Search

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FC3 RPM with htdig patches available.

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Nick Urbanik wrote:

On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 04:41:00PM +1100, Nick Urbanik wrote:
 Dear Folks,

 I have now built an RPM for FC3 incorporating both patches at
 http://nicku.org/ftp/contrib/mailman-2.1.5-30.fc3.1nu.src.rpm and
 http://nicku.org/ftp/contrib/mailman-2.1.5-30.fc3.1nu.i386.rpm.  Am
 about to test it.

Well, it's not quite right yet; there is no search box that I can
see.


After installing the patches and setting the necessary mm_cfg.py
variables, you need to rebuild the archives for existing lists before
you will see search boxes.


And this is not clear to me (from
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103):

5. automatic creation, deletion and maintenance of htdig configuration
files and such. Beyond installing htdig and telling Mailman where it
is via mm_cfg

[ How should I do that? ]

You answered this yourself in a later post.


you do not have to do any other setup. Well not quite you do have to
set up a single per installation symlink to allow htdig to find the
automatically generated per list htdig configuration files.

[ a symlink from what to where? ]

That symlink went away with the 2.1.2-0.2 version of the patch. See the
   INSTALL.htdig-mm and/or INSTALL.htdig-mm.html files installed by
the patch.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Home-grown filters

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Wilson wrote:

I know a Mailman user who is concerned about slow-connection
subscribers, and for that reason wishes to strip attachments and
truncate or refuse overlong messages.  Does Mailman support
inclusion of home-grown filters to modify incoming messages?

Mailman includes support for message size limits and content filtering
based on MIME type and message size limits.

It you want to go beyond this, you can add your own handler to the
pipeline. It has to be a Python module, but I suppose it could invoke
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Home-grown filters

2005-02-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 David == David Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David I know a Mailman user who is concerned about
David slow-connection subscribers, and for that reason wishes to
David strip attachments and truncate or refuse overlong messages.
David Does Mailman support inclusion of home-grown filters to
David modify incoming messages?

Yes.  Check out the various 'pipeline' variables.  You probably want
the GLOBAL_PIPELINE.  A pipeline is a list of Python functions to be
called on each message.  The functions have to have a specific
signature; such functions are called Handlers and the standard set
lives in the Mailman/Handlers subdirectory.  You'll need write access
to that directory to add the custom handlers.

I don't have the patch #s off hand, but there are patches to integrate
SpamAssassin and virus filters into the Mailman pipeline on the
SourceForge tracker; these would be good models for interfacing to
existing strippers such as MIMEdefang (there probably is a patch for
MIMEdefang, too, come to think of it).

In the case of stripping attachments and size restrictions, there is
already standard code to do this which can be enabled in the web
interface (the Content Filtering and General Options pages).
Configuration of content filtering is somewhat complex, though, due to
the wide variety of ways that files can be attached.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mmsearch now python RESOLVED edithtmlpermissions BCP.

2005-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gerald wrote:

Next question/stumbling block. This one seems simple, but I need to know
the proper way to fix this. Apache/httpd runs as user www. Mailman runs
as user mailman. The mailman check_perms file says everything looks ok.
When you try to edit a page from the mailman interface (Edit the Public
HTML pages- General List Information for example-Submit changes),
you get

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
...
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/en/listinfo.html'

ls -al $file = 
-rw-r--r--  1 mailman  mailman  575 Jul 18  2004 
/usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/en/listinfo.html

Who typically gives? Apache, mailman, or some unknown by me third option?

The cgi-bin wrappers check that they are invoked by the configured web
server group (in your case whatever group the www user is in) and then
sets groupid to mailman. That's why everything needs the setgid bit
set.
You shouldn't have to change any groups for Mailman or Apache if things
work at all. In particular, if you make Apache run in the mailman
group, you break Mailman's security.

Anyway, were the en/ directory and the en/listinfo.html file created by
the edit the public html process to begin with?

On my system when they are, they look like

drwxr-sr-x2 www  mailman  4096 Feb 24 21:37 en
and
-rw-r--r--1 www  mailman  4153 Feb 24 21:37 listinfo.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List name not displaying in Mailmanarchives

2005-02-24 Thread Carol Cronin
Exactly-- umbrella lists, my apologies for not using the correct terminology
the first time.

For instance, I have two separate Mailman lists-- ListA and ListB.  ListB is
the only member subscribed to ListA.  If I send an email to ListA, it will
archive in both ListA and ListB.

(But, if I send an email to ListB only, it will not archive in ListA.)

For some lists, I have multiple other lists subscribed.  My problem is that
if I send an email to ListA, a member of both lists who only reads the
archives won't be able to tell if the email was sent to ListA or to ListB.

If I can't make the original headers available in the archives, is there a
way to display the to address?  I notice that both list names will show up
as they appear in Prefix for subject line of list postings...is there a
way to make that field exclusive for the email address I'm sending to?

Thanks very much for all your help!

-Carol

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Carol Cronin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] List name not displaying in Mailmanarchives


 Brad Knowles wrote:

 At 11:03 AM -0600 2005-02-22, Carol Cronin wrote:
 
   When I view threads in our Mailman archives, I cannot see exactly
which list
   the mail was sent to.  I have nested lists, and the mail may appear in
both
   archives.  I need to see exactly which email address was used in the
thread
   when I view the archives.
 
  Nested lists?  I'm not quite sure what you mean by that,

 I think the OP means something like an umbrella list and wants to know
 when a message is in the archive for a sub-list, was the original post
 addressed to the sub-list or to the umbrella list.

 but the
 only way I know of to see all of the original headers for the message
 is to go to the archives and look in the unformatted 7th edition
 mbox-format raw file, and take a look at them there.  Not all lists
 make that available to their readers, and not all server admins make
 that option available to their list administrators.

 I agree with the above.

 Of course, if all the lists involved have archives, you can deduce to
 which list a post was addressed by seeing which archives it is and
 isn't in, but this is probably more cumbersome than you want.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass export of email addresses

2005-02-24 Thread Helen East
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brad Knowles wrote:

 At 7:15 PM + 2005-02-21, Helen East wrote:

  I'm the listowner of a mailman list and I will need in the future
  to export the 300 list members to another mailing list.   I can't
  find any kind of way of getting all the email addresses out of
  Mailman into another format (eg. .csv file, or something) and
  there are too many to do by hand!

 See

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp.


 The command line tools mentioned in the FAQ article are the best and
 most preferred way to do these kinds of things, but if you don't have
 shell access there are a couple of other ways to get a member list.

 There is the web list roster page and the e-mail 'who' command. Both
 of these have the 'problem' of not showing members who've opted out of
 these lists, so they may not be satisfactory in a particular case.

 You can also get a member list by scripting the web interface. See
 http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/#throughtheweb for an
 example.


Hi guys,

Thank you very much indeed for your help.  I shall have a go (or, more
likely, ask a competent friend to).  Thanks again,

Helen




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[Mailman-Users] Found new Subscriber Moderate box unchecked and MIME attachments now appearing

2005-02-24 Thread HPA
Hello-

I've searched the Mailman Users FAQ and archives and cannot find an answer
to my issue below.

Our moderated Mailman list (running on Mailman 2.1.4) had been chugging
along just fine for the past five months. Then abruptly this week we found
several new subscribers posting to the list unmoderated! When I investigated
Mailman admin settings I found the new subscriber moderate box unchecked!
How could this setting be changed without human interaction? Anyway I
re-checked it and re-set all accounts to moderated.

At the same time this occurred, and thus may be related, some posts to the
list began showing up with attachments. Before this time we had been
successfully filtering attachments, without a single attachment making it
through to the list.

Example of a recent post which included attachments is included below (with
relevant headers). Note the two attachments in the post below appear as a
graphical rule (horizontal line), one separating the header from the body
and the other between the body and the footer (see below). (At least this is
how they appear in Outlook Express, which by necessity I use to view
messages posted to the list).

We have the list setup to convert all HTML to text. Below is the lists
current 'Content Filtering' settings.

Any thoughts on why we are suddenly observing the appearance of attachments
and any recommendations to filter them out? We're just happy with straight
text.

Thanks,

Woody

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Current 'Content Filtering' settings:

Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic according to the settings
below?
Yes

Remove message attachments that have a matching content type.
None listed.

Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content type.
multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain

Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text?
yes.

Action to take when a message matches the content filtering rules.
Discard


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Below is example of list message including HTML (with relevant header info).
---


MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary==_NextPart_000_00A9_01C518E5.D82AFB00
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:42:03 -0800
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4
Cc:

X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
Precedence: list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C518E5.D82AFB00
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

News list:


--=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C518E5.D82AFB00
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


BODY of message...



--=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C518E5.D82AFB00
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

Footer...

--=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C518E5.D82AFB00--


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[Mailman-Users] Reply-to problem

2005-02-24 Thread Joakim Nomell
Hi all. I have switched on the filter on all my lists. I have only set it 
to filter and convert HTML to plain text, all other settings are default. 
In the general settings for all lists, I have set reply-to this list 
instead of sender. I only want replies go to the list, not to the members 
directly.

The rpely-to stuff worked just fine before I switched on the filters. But 
now, some mails from the list don't have the reply-to-header. It looks to 
me that mails that has been converted from HTML don't get the 
reply-to-header. Others emails has the header. Are there any solutions on 
this?

Thanks in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to problem

2005-02-24 Thread Joakim Nomell
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Joakim Nomell wrote:

 Hi all. I have switched on the filter on all my lists. I have only set it 
 to filter and convert HTML to plain text, all other settings are default. 
 In the general settings for all lists, I have set reply-to this list 
 instead of sender. I only want replies go to the list, not to the members 
 directly.
 
 The rpely-to stuff worked just fine before I switched on the filters. But 
 now, some mails from the list don't have the reply-to-header. It looks to 
 me that mails that has been converted from HTML don't get the 
 reply-to-header. Others emails has the header. Are there any solutions on 
 this?
 
 Thanks in advance.

Correction, the reply-to-header is not missing (my Pine didn't show it). 
it looks like this in some cases:

Reply-To: User [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Hackerlistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

2005-02-24 Thread Matt Clark
Hi 

I'm also getting an identical error to Chris Boulter

 Oddly, when there is a text body as well as binary attachments, the
 attachments seem to be silently dropped without mention, and there is
no
 hyperlink to retrieve them. Is there any reason why this might happen?

I'm running Version 2.1.5. of mailman.

I've tried applying the patch 891491 scrubber.py last ammended by Tokio
Kikuchi 
In Sept 2004 using the following command

Patch -p1  /path/to/patch

With no joy.

 patch -p1  /tmp/scrubber.patch.20040912 
 can't find file to patch at input line 5
 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
 The text leading up to this was:
 --
 |Index: Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py
 |===
 |--- Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py   (.../trunk) (revision 21)
 |+++ Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py
(.../branches/scrubber_branch)  (revision 21)
 --

Any ideas ??

Thanks

Matt Clark

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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list

2005-02-24 Thread Norm Williams
I find that I am not getting mail and those trying o send mail to me get the
following message.  I have not subscribed to Mailman and I need help!

Your mail to 'Norm.williams' with the subject

 

test

 

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

 

The reason it is being held:

 

Post by non-member to a members-only list

 

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel this
posting, please visit the following URL:

 

 
http://submarinesaustralia.com/mailman/confirm/norm.williams_submarinesaustr
alia.com/7c50475bde2c1c7788feab4bb0fc186d02085ce2

 

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] Mailing List

2005-02-24 Thread webmaster
Hi there.

I'm looking for some sort of mailing list where I can group topics of the same 
interest from within my Adress book, and just mail these individuals. It must 
allow for simply add ins and alterations to keep my supporters up to date via 
mail
Tx  regards

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to problem

2005-02-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:24 PM +0100 2005-02-24, Joakim Nomell wrote:
 Correction, the reply-to-header is not missing (my Pine didn't show it).
 it looks like this in some cases:
 Reply-To: User [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Hackerlistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
	This means that the mailing list has added it's e-mail address to 
the list of addresses to which a reply should be sent.  In this case, 
it was folded onto the next line, but it should still be valid.

This seems to be working fine to me.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list

2005-02-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:52 PM +0800 2005-02-24, Norm Williams wrote:
 I find that I am not getting mail and those trying o send mail to me get the
 following message.  I have not subscribed to Mailman and I need help!
	Maybe someone installed Mailman on your machine, perhaps with 
auto-alias support in Exim or some other MTA, and which has somehow 
taken over regular e-mail addresses?

	I'd be willing to bet that this is a misconfigured MTA which is 
mistakenly handing e-mail to Mailman that it should not.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

2005-02-24 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi
Matt Clark wrote:
Hi 

I'm also getting an identical error to Chris Boulter

Oddly, when there is a text body as well as binary attachments, the
attachments seem to be silently dropped without mention, and there is
no
hyperlink to retrieve them. Is there any reason why this might happen?

I'm running Version 2.1.5. of mailman.
I've tried applying the patch 891491 scrubber.py last ammended by Tokio
Kikuchi 
In Sept 2004 using the following command

Patch -p1  /path/to/patch
With no joy.

patch -p1  /tmp/scrubber.patch.20040912 
can't find file to patch at input line 5
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
Tried -p0 ?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|Index: Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py
|===
|--- Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py   (.../trunk) (revision 21)
|+++ Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py
(.../branches/scrubber_branch)  (revision 21)
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You'd better get mailman-2.1.6b4.tgz from sourceforge and install 
because all my patches are now integrated in the codebase.
Or, wait 2.1.6 final which will spin out soon. :-)
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