[Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman

[Don]

Hi everyone;

I am a new user of Mailman on my web site.

If all goes as planed, numerous mailing lists will need to be set up that 
will all probably need to be configured identical except for the names of 
each list.

Instead of using all the original default settings, I'd like to 
customize.  Is there an (easy) way to be able to modify the defaults to 
spare myself the 'recreating / repeating of generating identical 
settings' the way I like them, and thus the time investment?

Yes I found some info in the faq... but I'm totally unfamiliar with 
playing with the innards of programs and furthermore am using an old Mac. 
 I'm guessing it might be a bit difficult to open a program running in 
Red Hat Linux using a Mac.

Ideas?

Thanks
Don
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a list - how is this possible?

[Mark Sapiro]

Graham Leggett wrote:
>
>I figured the rmlist option in the cgi-bin directory might do what I 
>want, but all it gave me was the cryptic and meaningless message "You're 
>being a sneaky list owner!", which leaves me no nearer to enlightenment 
>on what method should be used to delete a list.

bin/rmlist --help

The cgi-bin/rmlist script is for the web interface. It is only made
available in the web interface and only works if you set

OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes

in mm_cfg.py. If you execute it directly without this setting, it
thinks you're trying to "trick" it and gives you the "sneaky
listowner" message.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a list - how is this possible?

[Bruce N. Audie]

This was Dan Phillips' answer to my question about this:

Put "OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes" in your mm_cfg.py and run 
bin/mailmanctl restart


This will add a delete option to the web GUI.

Bruce N. Audie


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a list - how is this possible?


Hi all,

I created a list using my new mailman installation, and due to 
permission problems it did not create the list correctly.

I now want to delete the list so that I can try and create it again - 
but this functionality seems to be missing from mailman, I cannot find a 
delete list option anywhere, or I'm looking in the wrong place.

I figured the rmlist option in the cgi-bin directory might do what I 
want, but all it gave me was the cryptic and meaningless message "You're 
being a sneaky list owner!", which leaves me no nearer to enlightenment 
on what method should be used to delete a list.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Graham
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permission problems cause postfix postalias error

[Todd]

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Graham Leggett wrote:
> After creating a list, mailman v2.1.5 bombs out like so:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
> main()
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
> process_request(doc, cgidata)
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
> sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
> _update_maps()
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
> raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
> RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
> /var/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)
>
> The postfix logs complain of "permission denied" accessing data/aliases.
>
> I have run the bin/check_perm script, but to no avail. Does anybody know 
> what should be done to make this work? I tried adding the postfix user 
> to the mailman group, but it didn't work.

See: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp

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[Mailman-Users] Permission problems cause postfix postalias error

[Graham Leggett]

Hi all,
After creating a list, mailman v2.1.5 bombs out like so:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
/var/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

The postfix logs complain of "permission denied" accessing data/aliases.
I have run the bin/check_perm script, but to no avail. Does anybody know 
what should be done to make this work? I tried adding the postfix user 
to the mailman group, but it didn't work.

Regards,
Graham
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Deleting a list - how is this possible?

[David Gibbs]

Graham Leggett wrote:
I now want to delete the list so that I can try and create it again - 
but this functionality seems to be missing from mailman, I cannot find a 
delete list option anywhere, or I'm looking in the wrong place.
Try using the rmlist command.
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[Mailman-Users] Deleting a list - how is this possible?

[Graham Leggett]

Hi all,
I created a list using my new mailman installation, and due to 
permission problems it did not create the list correctly.

I now want to delete the list so that I can try and create it again - 
but this functionality seems to be missing from mailman, I cannot find a 
delete list option anywhere, or I'm looking in the wrong place.

I figured the rmlist option in the cgi-bin directory might do what I 
want, but all it gave me was the cryptic and meaningless message "You're 
being a sneaky list owner!", which leaves me no nearer to enlightenment 
on what method should be used to delete a list.

Any ideas?
Regards,
Graham
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[Mailman-Users] Need help with "content filtering"

[Pete Holsberg]

I would like for members of the list I run to be able to 
send HTML-encoded emails and any attachments except pictures.

"Remove message attachments that have a matching content 
type" contains:
image

"Remove message attachments that don't have a matching 
content type" contains:
multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain
text/html

"Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text?" is NO
As a test I copied an HTML file that was open in Word (it 
contained a single line), pasted it into Outlook (set for 
HTML) and sent it to my list. I got the following repsonse:

"The attached message matched the 
4sam-4seasonsatmapleton.org mailing
list's content filtering rules and was prevented from being 
forwarded
on to the list membership.  You are receiving the only 
remaining copy
of the discarded message."

One of the attachments contained this:
BODY { MARGIN-TOP: 25px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 25px; 
COLOR: #00; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial, Helvetica } P.msoNormal { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px;
COLOR: #cc; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New Roman" } 
LI.msoNormal { MARGIN-TOP:
0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; COLOR: #cc; 
FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New
Roman" }

  Sunday, April 10, 2005
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] Attachment URL question in Archive Page

[Brian Carpenter]

Hi All:

I am running Mailman 2.1.5p1 under cPanel.

I have question on the URL that shows up for a scrubbed attachment on the
Archive page. Right now the URL shows up in this format:

Url : /pipermail/listname/attachments/20050302/b37e3e52/0001.gif

How can I change this to:

Url :
http://host_name/pipermail/listname/attachments/20050302/b37e3e52/0001.gif

Host_name being the virtual host name of the list. Please help. Thanks.

Have a great day.

Kind regards,
Brian Carpenter
Emerging Markets Web Design, LLC
www.emwd.com


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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 initial config problems SOLVED

[FH]

-- Original Message --
Received: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:47:27 PM EST
From: Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 initial config problems (virtual hosts
andpermissions)

> 
> Unfortunately, check_perms won't catch the permission problem with the
> alias database file(s).  You want aliases.dir and aliases.pag to be
> group writable.  All the alias files should be owned by mailman and be
> in group mailman.  Then postalias should work and you'll be able to
> create lists from the web.
> 



and 



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From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 initial config problems (virtual
hostsandpermissions)

> 
> Mailman's security and permissions are based on the group. You will
> note that both the mailman/ and mailman/data directories are group
> "rws" group mailman, so the scripts which are running under group
> 'mailman' as set by the cgi-bin wrapper can do their things OK, but it
> seems that Postfix's postalias command wants the executing user (not
> group) to own the aliases file.
> 


Thanks for the help everyone I seem to be in business now.  Both problems were
related to the group ownership/permissions of the alias files.  I never did
find out how/why aliases kept reverting back to root.  It doesn't seem to be
happening now but I'll keep an eye on it.


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[Mailman-Users] Sender Filters

[karlkras]

I'm configuring a 'newsletter' list so all of the standard members are flagged 
as moderated and, since I don't want to allow them to post messages to the 
list, I would like such messages to be sent to the moderator to be considered 
while sending a "rejection" notice back to the member notifying of this. 

>From my interpretation of the configuration interface what I would really like 
>is a hybrid between member_moderation_action = 'reject' && 'hold' but this 
>wouldn't appear possible. i.e., I'd like to be able to hold the message for 
>approval by the list moderators, while automatically rejecting the message by 
>sending a bounce notice to the post's author.

Is there another not so obvious way to accomplish this?

regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Non-members allowed to post!

[David Gibbs]

Folks:
I have a serious problem here that I can't seem to figure out.  I've 
been running Mailman for a very long time and have never seen this 
behavior before.

A person is posting messages via GMane, but they are not subscribed to 
the list.  However, their messages are being allowed to post!

I have my list configured with ...
generic_nonmember_action = hold
accept_these_nonmembers = 
default_member_moderation = yes
member_moderation_action = hold
As you can see from this post log entry, the posting was accepted ...
Mar 02 09:26:10 2005 (28195) post to rpg400-l from [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=2570, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, success

But '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is not subscribed to any of my lists.
If I send a message from one of my own email addresses that isn't 
subscribed, it's held as it should be.

Any thoughts on how this can happen?
Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Safe Archive Clean

[Young, Darren]

Couple questions on archiving.

First, have some lists that archives exist for that I need to remove. We
don't support archiving so I need to blast them. What's the "safe" way
to do this?

On that note (we don't support archiving), I've disabled archives on all
lists on our server (via withlist), have set DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = Off &
ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX to -1 in Defaults.py. Additionally, I removed the
archive option from the UI via Defaults.py as well.

Now, what I'm finding is that if a list has content filtering disabled,
or set to allow other MIME types through (such as HTML) and if a member
is of type digest and they have the plain option enabled for digests,
they receive a message in their digest with a URL of where they can see
a copy of the original message. The URL included has a pipermail address
in it. On the server, the file was placed in that directory however I
have pipermail disabled (since we don't support archives). Any way to
disable this part or do I just need to wipe those archived files?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] performance tuning for sendmail and local users

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:30 PM +1100 2005-03-02, Iain Pople wrote:
 I am setting up a Mailman instance that will deliver to around 10,000
 local users. Can anyone suggest appropriate settings for Mailman and
 Sendmail to optimize performance?
	There are far too many variables in the equation to be able to 
simply throw out some numbers.  Odds are that you're going to have to 
read a number of Mailman FAQ Wizard entries and try some things out 
and see what works for you.

 Specifically I am interested in suggestions for the following 
Mailman options:

 SMTP_MAX_RCPTS
 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION
 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS
	Please go to the FAQ Wizard at 
 and search for 
"performance" and also search for "tuning".  Pay particular attention 
to the entry at 
 
You should also take a look at the entries returned by searching for 
"VERP".

	If you want to go further down this road, beg borrow or steal a 
copy of Nick Christenson's book "Sendmail Performance Tuning".

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[Mailman-Users] mailman/data directory

[Young, Darren]

What are the heldmsg files in the Mailman data directory? They all seem
to be held messages for lists, yes?

On that note, the file in the lists/ directory, called
request.pck, is that a pointer to all of those files specific to that
list?

Reason I ask, the data directory on our server has 147,000 files in it
(and it's getting rather large). List admins/moderators have this
tendency of not tending to pending requests so it seems that what all
those are. If so, what's the process to manually purge those?

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[Mailman-Users] Inconsistent post approval options

[David Abrahams]

Hi,

We have Mailman set up to moderate everyone's first posting.
Normally, the approval screen has a checkbox at the bottom that says
something like "uncheck this poster's moderation bit."  Normally,
moderators check that box as they approve each poster's first posting.
But occasionally, I see something else.  See the enclosed for an
example.  Can anyone explain what it means when that happens?

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