[Mailman-Users] 'Submit change' without effect
Dear Mailman-staff, We¹ve recently switched to a new mailhost, and are thrilled to be able to set up mailinglists on our own domain. However, I ran into a problem when I tried to set the preferences for my list. After hitting the ³Submit your changes² button, the page refreshed as supposed to, but the changes were not stored the site came back with the old prefs as they appeared before I changed them. Have you heard of this problem before? I¹d love to hear it if there is something I can do about this... Hope to hear from you; thanks in advance. Kind regards, Odd Harald Eidsmo -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] please help
is there a way to set up my list so only I the admin can send emails? I dont want anyone else to be able to send mails to my list except for me- Thanx for your time - I tried to answer this question by reading but i cant find the solution - ALOHA -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] please help
At 12:30 PM -1000 2005-03-04, Maui MultiMedia wrote: is there a way to set up my list so only I the admin can send emails? Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for announce or one-way. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] File Not Found error
I posted this to the gentoo-user list yesterday, but since no one responded I'll post it here too. I've been trying all afternoon to get some response from email requests to subscribe to my test list. I discovered after many hours of trying that the mailman daemon wasn't even running. This confused me because I started it and made sure it was started before I began trying to subscribe to the test list. My email requests to subscribe showed up in the logs as being successfully sent, but I wasn't getting any kind of response from mailman. After I discovered that mailman had been stopped, I of course started it again. I guess my subscription requests were still in the mail queue because I started seeing this printed out to the terminal prompt: bullet log # Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1109975934.623035 +4cd01836ef0e6cef43795017b8bdc4487d050f37.pck' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1109976293.7504261 +b03c5d09f70bf45f9f14f551471a278c0df63795.pck' Is this something I can fix myself, or something I need to report to the mailman project? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman options
I have a customer that is essentially asking me for a mailing list that is not the traditional mailman way of doing things. I started out customizing Mailman in several ways according to their requests, however they are, I think, needing another system and I'm just not sure where to find such a creature. They had a problem where their provider started spamming their list and had to change, thus this is where I come into the mix, and they simply want to send out their own newsletters intermittently and not allow members to chat with each other, but when they send messages that they go back to the administrator. They also do not want users to have to worry about passwords and they want unsubscription will be as simple as clicking a link in the newsletter. One final kicker is that they want reporting on if members addresses have become invalid (ie messages bounced to them). Can mailman be customized to function after this manner (basically providing a super clean interface for subscribers with the above options) or should I be looking for another solution? If I should be looking for another solution does anyone know of such an application? Thanks much for any help! -George -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help with content filtering
Thanks, Mark. I decided to create a test mailing list to experiment with content filtering. Incidentally, this is Mailman v2.1.5. Edit filter content: YES Filter mime types: (blank) Pass mime types: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html Convert HTML to plaintext: (see below) Filter action: Forward to list owner I created a simple two-line HTML page in Word and pasted it in to Outlook (set to send HTML) but without stationery. It didn't matter whether Convert HTML to plain text was YES or NO: In both cases, all HTML font formatting was stripped out. However the link I had in the original was preserved. I'd be happy to email the simple test page to anyone off list. This is really confusing me! - If my HTML page has an image in it (stationery), it will be treated as an attachment. Won't Mailman remove it because it doesn't have an approved content type? It doesn't. Instead it blocks the message and sends me this: The attached message matched the XXX mailing list's content filtering rules and was prevented from being forwarded on to the list membership. You are receiving the only remaining copy of the discarded message. When I send the same page without the image, the message is acceptable. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
I am trying to make the web UI for MM 2.1.5 valid XHTML. I have got some of it completed already (just the listinfo page at the moment), and I would like to let the rest of you have a look at it, critique it However, since I'm fairly new to Linux and creating diff files, I'm not sure how to make the patch file to upload to Sourceforge. I have read the man pages, but there seems to be quite a few different commandline switches, I don't know which ones to use. In that respect I have 2 questions: 1) Can anyone give me some quick pointers on how to make it, so that it's a standard patch file, if such a thing exists. 2) Would I be better off working with 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 source? I know that the 2.1.6 is still in late beta. Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never let a computer see you hurry. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman options
At 11:56 AM -0500 2005-03-05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can mailman be customized to function after this manner (basically providing a super clean interface for subscribers with the above options) or should I be looking for another solution? If I should be looking for another solution does anyone know of such an application? You can set up one-way/announcement-only mailing lists, and all replies will go back to the moderators. And putting unsubscription links in the message footer is no problem. Just enable personalization, and then put in the appropriate text -- we do this for the mailman-users list. If they want all bounces to come exclusively to them, they'll have to change the standard aliases that are created which would normally route all bounces back to the Mailman system. Either that, or set the calculation low enough that a single bounce would result in the recipient being disabled -- which would result in the list administrator being notified. However, passwords is something that I'm pretty sure the current version cannot eliminate. I believe that we're hoping to fix that in future versions, perhaps in the 2.2 tree, or perhaps in mm3. If you want that in the current version, you're going to have to make changes to the source code. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help with content filtering
Pete Holsberg wrote: I decided to create a test mailing list to experiment with content filtering. Incidentally, this is Mailman v2.1.5. Edit filter content: YES Filter mime types: (blank) Pass mime types: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html Convert HTML to plaintext: (see below) Filter action: Forward to list owner I created a simple two-line HTML page in Word and pasted it in to Outlook (set to send HTML) but without stationery. It didn't matter whether Convert HTML to plain text was YES or NO: In both cases, all HTML font formatting was stripped out. However the link I had in the original was preserved. I think what's going on here is the original message is multipart/alternative with both a text/plain part and a text/html part. If more than one sub-part remains in a multipart/alternative part after filtering, Mailman selects the first remaining alternative which would be the text/plain part in this case. There are two ways to get the HTML part to the list in this case. One is to not allow text/plain at all. This is probably a very bad idea for a discussion list, but might be viable for an announcement list where the intent is to always post HTML. The other is to set up your MUA (Outlook) to send HTML only, not multipart/alternative. I'd be happy to email the simple test page to anyone off list. This is really confusing me! - If my HTML page has an image in it (stationery), it will be treated as an attachment. Won't Mailman remove it because it doesn't have an approved content type? It doesn't. Instead it blocks the message and sends me this: The attached message matched the XXX mailing list's content filtering rules and was prevented from being forwarded on to the list membership. You are receiving the only remaining copy of the discarded message. When I send the same page without the image, the message is acceptable. What this means is content filtering removed the entire message. This may be a problem with content filtering or it may be the way Outlook structures this message. I can't say without seeing such a message as received by Mailman. If you want to Cc: me directly with one of these test posts, I'll look at it and tell you what I think. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
On 5 Mar 2005 at 12:38, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: However, since I'm fairly new to Linux and creating diff files, I'm not sure how to make the patch file to upload to Sourceforge. I have read the man pages, but there seems to be quite a few different commandline switches, I don't know which ones to use. OOPS.. That should have read: I have read the man pages for diff and patch -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is it that inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the heck happened? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with bounce processing
Noah Meyerhans wrote: Hi all. I'm stumped by a problem I've been having with Mailman 2.1.x and bounce processing. A number of users have recently had their subscriptions to several mailing lists disabled due to bounces. However, I know that their mail is working properly as they're local to my site and use their mail daily. Is it possible to see the actual content of the bounces that mailman has processed? Like I said, I don't think anybody's mail is actually bouncing, but clearly Mailman thinks it is. I need to figure out why so I can fix this... If you set bounce_notify_owner_on_disable and bounce_notify_owner_on_removal to Yes on the Bounce processing page, the list owner will receive a copy of the bounce message that caused the disable or removal. As Brad noted, you can't see the actual bounce messages preceeding the ones that cause disable or removal (unless you somehow get your MTA to send you a copy), but you can see their occurrence is noted in the 'bounce' log. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page
Aaron Crosman wrote: I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on SuSE 9.1, using the SuSE package. I have one user using the Spanish language version of Mailman. Almost everything is setup, however today we noticed that the user options page of the Spanish language version is not working properly at all (everything is fine if you look at the English lists). The first thing to check is the Spanish language template for the page. The base template is templates/es/options.html, but there could also be a site edited template at templates/site/es/options.html or a domain specific edited template at templates/host-name/es/options.html or a list specific edited template at lists/list-name/es/options.html. Note that the base template should never be edited. Edited templates should be in one or more of the other 3 places. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with a list
Joakim Nomell wrote: Suddenly one listed started to behave strange. It had correct reply-to header but instead of having the list name and address on the to-line, it put the members name there. But when replying, the client used the repply-to header and it worked anyway. But why does it change my to-lines on one list? All lists have the smae settings except from subscribe policy on some closed lists. This behavior is produced by Full Personalization. See the Non-digest options page Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery? settings (only available if OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes in mm_cfg.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] The unsubscribe users are STILL receiving themailing list password reminders messages
Wang, Mary Y wrote: I'm using mailman-2.0.6-1 on a Redhat 7.2 box. Recently, few ex-mailing list subscribers complained about that they have already unsubscribe those mailing lists, but yet they still received the monthly password reminder email message. I know I'm using an older version of mailman, and I don't have time to install the later version. How do I remove those users from the monthly password reminder email message broadcast. Also why does the unsubscribe logic IS NOT affecting the password reminder logic in Mailman? Ask the users to forward to you the password reminder. This will tell you to what list(s) they are subscribed and with what e-mail address. They may be subscrribed to an inactive list they've forgotted or have their delivery disabled but still be subscribed. The notice itself should give you all you need to figure it out. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing per user
Hi all Is it possible to set bounce settings for a specific user? I have a user whose account bounces mails if over 25kb. This causes him to be disabled from the list when people send patches/HTML messages. Can I allow infinite bounces from his address only? Thanks Jason -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] ATT addresses
Prof DA Wahlstrom wrote: I have a list running for those interested in Swedish genealogy. I started it in 1996 an most recently have been running it on Mailman. Last month, I changed vendors and was very proud of myself for being able to get Mailman and the list running again. However, I seem to have a problem with subscribers with 'at att.com' addresses. They tell me they are no longer getting any messages. I do not know much about this stuff and don't even know where to look for an explanation let along a fix. One likely possibility is att.com is blocking mail from your new host. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.042.htp which is primarily about AOL but has relevant information. A less likely possibility is some kind of connectivity problem between your new host and att.com. Check Mailman's 'bounce' log to see if there are any bounces from these addresses (assuming bounce processing is turned on). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrative notices
George Booth wrote: Mailman doesn't see it that way, and even though there are no messages pending approval, the software is still sending daily notices that there are some out there. Have you seen http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.038.htp Is this the problem? These pending messages would be kept in the data directory under the mailman directory, correct? Yes Is there any other place these messages might be kept that we're overlooking? And is there any way to tell Mailman to stop sending notifications for pending messages that don't exist? :) The messages aren't elswhere, but information about them is in lists/listname/request.pck -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing per user
At 9:10 PM +0200 2005-03-05, Jason Filby wrote: Is it possible to set bounce settings for a specific user? Not that I know of. I have a user whose account bounces mails if over 25kb. This causes him to be disabled from the list when people send patches/HTML messages. Can I allow infinite bounces from his address only? You could probably modify the source code to do this sort of thing, but short of that I am not aware of any solution. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listowners.org
At 8:05 AM -0600 2005-03-04, Willie McKemie wrote: Mailman wishlist feature: Enable some sort of get membership list via an email command. Even if member's addresses are hidden. Alternately, some way to, at least temporarily, un-hide all members. Alternately, some way to list all members on a single web page. There are some sample scripts available that script the web interface to do these things See http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/#throughtheweb -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] checkdbs command question
George Booth wrote: Forgot to mention: Mailman version 2.1.5 OS is RH Linux AS3 And Does the checkdbs command do ANYTHING other than send out pending notifications to the list owners? Would disabling it in cron cripple the Mailman software in any way, shape, or form? It does one other thing. It evicts stale autoresponse data from the list's config.pck file. This is not critical since even if it is not done, there will still be at most one entry per member. So, not running checkdbs will not cause any problem other than the config.pck files being a bit bigger than necessary. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
RE: [Mailman-Users] Attachment URL question in Archive Page
Brian Carpenter wrote: The PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL governs the url to the archives of a list. That is working fine. The url that I am talking about is the url that shows up when looking at an archived message that had an attachment scrubbed. If you look at the code in Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, you will see that the base portion of the URL to the scrubbed attachment is obtained from GetBaseArchiveURL() which is exactly the same method used by Cgi/admin.py, HTMLFormatter.py and Handlers/CookHeaders.py to get this information. If the archive URL is correct in the link from the web admin pages, the various templates and the RFC-2369 headers in list messages, it should also be correct in the link to a scrubbed part. If it's not, I don't know why. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Submit change' without effect
Odd Harald Eidsmo wrote: We¹ve recently switched to a new mailhost, and are thrilled to be able to set up mailinglists on our own domain. However, I ran into a problem when I tried to set the preferences for my list. After hitting the ³Submit your changes² button, the page refreshed as supposed to, but the changes were not stored the site came back with the old prefs as they appeared before I changed them. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp may be relevant. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman options
Brad Knowles wrote: At 11:56 AM -0500 2005-03-05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can mailman be customized to function after this manner (basically providing a super clean interface for subscribers with the above options) or should I be looking for another solution? If I should be looking for another solution does anyone know of such an application? snip However, passwords is something that I'm pretty sure the current version cannot eliminate. I believe that we're hoping to fix that in future versions, perhaps in the 2.2 tree, or perhaps in mm3. If you want that in the current version, you're going to have to make changes to the source code. The FAQ article at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp gives some tips for minimizing the need for users to know their password. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
Bryan Carbonnell wrote: 1) Can anyone give me some quick pointers on how to make it, so that it's a standard patch file, if such a thing exists. A unified context diff is the preferred format for a patch. This is the '-u' option. 2) Would I be better off working with 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 source? I know that the 2.1.6 is still in late beta. I would recommend 2.1.6, although for the templates at least, there's no difference - see http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/templates/en/?only_with_tag=Release_2_1_6b4 -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to enable topics for all users?
David C Black wrote: I have a list and have been requested to add topics; however, many members of the list are unsophiticated. Can I adjust the settings for members (similar to setting moderation)? If yes, how? I think you would need to create a bin/withlist script to do this. From the web interface, you'd have to do it one member at a time. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] ATT addresses
Mark Sapiro wrote: Prof DA Wahlstrom wrote: However, I seem to have a problem with subscribers with 'at att.com' addresses. They tell me they are no longer getting any messages. One other thought. Do you mean attbi.com rather than att.com? If so, the issue is that attbi.com was taken over by comcast.net some time ago. All addresses should have been changed from the attbi.com domain to the comcast.net domain, but the attbi.com addresses continued to work until 2 months ago. They are no longer valid and need to be changed to comcast.net addresses. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman/data directory
Young, Darren wrote: What are the heldmsg files in the Mailman data directory? They all seem to be held messages for lists, yes? Yes On that note, the file in the lists/listname directory, called request.pck, is that a pointer to all of those files specific to that list? Yes, but it contains other requests too such as unconfirmed subscriptions, unconfirmed address changes, etc. Reason I ask, the data directory on our server has 147,000 files in it (and it's getting rather large). List admins/moderators have this tendency of not tending to pending requests so it seems that what all those are. If so, what's the process to manually purge those? bin/discard It is not clear from bin/discard --help but the file arguments are the files data/heldmsg-* -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] File Not Found error
Michael Sullivan wrote: I posted this to the gentoo-user list yesterday, but since no one responded I'll post it here too. I've been trying all afternoon to get some response from email requests to subscribe to my test list. I discovered after many hours of trying that the mailman daemon wasn't even running. This confused me because I started it and made sure it was started before I began trying to subscribe to the test list. My email requests to subscribe showed up in the logs as being successfully sent, but I wasn't getting any kind of response from mailman. After I discovered that mailman had been stopped, I of course started it again. I guess my subscription requests were still in the mail queue because I started seeing this printed out to the terminal prompt: bullet log # Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1109975934.623035 +4cd01836ef0e6cef43795017b8bdc4487d050f37.pck' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1109976293.7504261 +b03c5d09f70bf45f9f14f551471a278c0df63795.pck' Is this something I can fix myself, or something I need to report to the mailman project? I'm not sure if the above 'errors' are significant or not. Check your Mailman 'error' and 'qrunner' logs for clues as to why the qrunners stopped in the first place. Also look at 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs for possible clues as to why your responses aren't going out. Finally, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Safe Archive Clean
Young, Darren wrote: Couple questions on archiving. First, have some lists that archives exist for that I need to remove. We don't support archiving so I need to blast them. What's the safe way to do this? Set archive_private to 'private'. This should delete the archives/public/listname/ directory if there was one. Then you can delete everything in archives/private/listname, but it would be safest to have an index.html file that just says there is no archive. The satanard one is based on templates/lang/emptyarchive.html On that note (we don't support archiving), I've disabled archives on all lists on our server (via withlist), have set DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = Off ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX to -1 in Defaults.py. Additionally, I removed the archive option from the UI via Defaults.py as well. Now, what I'm finding is that if a list has content filtering disabled, or set to allow other MIME types through (such as HTML) and if a member is of type digest and they have the plain option enabled for digests, they receive a message in their digest with a URL of where they can see a copy of the original message. The URL included has a pipermail address in it. On the server, the file was placed in that directory however I have pipermail disabled (since we don't support archives). Any way to disable this part or do I just need to wipe those archived files? I'm not sure what you want here. If you set archive_private to 'private', the URL will be to the private archive location rather that the pipermail location. For HTML parts see the description of ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER in Defaults.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Dumb question of the day
Hi; I'd like to set up a 'test' list for a couple people to see what they will be working with to administrate a list. It appears to me that giving someone administrative privelages for a specific list will not cause any security breech of the site itself. Therefore, my 'dumb question' for the day is... am I correct? Is there any reasonable way for someone to mess up anything outside of that specific list? It appears that everything is safe... but I'd like to hear that for certain from someone who KNOWS what they are doing far better than I do. Sorry if this is an irritation to anyone. Thanks Don -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] solved: moderation request - zombies
How did you figure this out? I'm having this same issue, even replacing requests.pck with a blank one. gerhard oettl wrote: since 16.02.2005 i get a daily moderation request with even if i handled all requests in the web-interface and the webpage for pending requests is empty. 1) sorry, not a mailman-error 2) the reason: all mailing-lists moved to another server and after a power-off on the old server mailman was accedently started again. The pending requests came from another machine and not from the current mailman listserver. yours gerhard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jeremi%40mividdesigns.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List with in title
I have a list with in the title - Let's say ab for an example. This is causing several problems: 1. On pages like listinfo, mailman capitalizes the first letter, so it appears as Ab, which is not what I want, but can tolerate. If I try to make the case change only with the web interface, it won't let me. It says only make case changes, and that's what I try, but it's unhappy. No big deal. 2. I also can't delete the list using bin/rmlist - The command line doesn't like the ampersand. So I circumvented this by changing mm_cfg.py to allow list owners to delete their own list with the web interface. OK so far. 3. But the biggest problem is that I can't use bin/withlist commands like fix_url with this listname with the ampersand in it! So my main question is - Is there a way to escape the ampersand such that I can run withlist or arch commands on this list, or do I just have to use another name? Thanks - John -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Dumb question of the day
Don wrote: I'd like to set up a 'test' list for a couple people to see what they will be working with to administrate a list. It appears to me that giving someone administrative privelages for a specific list will not cause any security breech of the site itself. Therefore, my 'dumb question' for the day is... am I correct? Yes Is there any reasonable way for someone to mess up anything outside of that specific list? Not directly that I know of. You have to trust them somewhat. They can do stupid things. As long as they only subscribe themselves and maybe a few others, you are probably OK. Consider though that they could subscribe a large list of AOL addresses and send a message to which some significant fraction of recipients clicks this is spam and then your site gets blacklisted by AOL. Or, they could set up a large list with reply to list and create a huge mess of stop sending me this messages going back to the list which can bring your server to it's knees and get you blacklisted as above. These things are unlikely, and if you're only talking small test list and just mistakes and not maliciousness, you're probably fine. It appears that everything is safe... but I'd like to hear that for certain from someone who KNOWS what they are doing far better than I do. Sorry if this is an irritation to anyone. Doesn't hurt to be careful. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List with in title
--On Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:16 PM -0500 John Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my main question is - Is there a way to escape the ampersand such that I can run withlist or arch commands on this list, or do I just have to use another name? Thanks - John Use a single quote when referring to the list on the command line. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
SOLVED!Re: [Mailman-Users] List with in title
- Original Message - From: Michael Loftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] List with in title So my main question is - Is there a way to escape the ampersand such that I can run withlist or arch commands on this list, or do I just have to use another name? Thanks - John Use a single quote when referring to the list on the command line. Thank you! Thank you! - John -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listowners.org
Willie McKemie wrote: On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 11:51:32AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: At 8:05 AM -0600 2005-03-04, Willie McKemie wrote: Mailman wishlist feature: Enable some sort of get membership list via an email command. Even if member's addresses are hidden. Alternately, some way to, at least temporarily, un-hide all members. Alternately, some way to list all members on a single web page. There are some sample scripts available that script the web interface to do these things See http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/#throughtheweb That's VERY interesting, thanks. I am not at all familiar with python. I assume those scripts are to be executed on my local system rather than my web host? That's correct. I just installed python and messed with the scripts some. I first ran mailman-subscribers.py with the three command line parameters. It ran a minute or two (or three), but yielded no output. It works for me. ./mailman-subscribers.py -f www.example.com my_list my_list_pw What happens if you use -v or --verbose? Well, says I, maybe I need to first 'unhide' all members first. You shouldn't need to. So, I edited unhide.py and changed what seemed appropriate: listname and URL. Correct. Changed 'password' and 'listpassword' on the line that begins with params. The literal 'password' is not changed. 'listpassword' is replaced with 'the_actual_password' (i.e. it should still be quoted.) Ran unhide.py. Quick execution, no errors, no output. This one is not so useful because it reads a list of members to unhide from the subscribers.txt local file. If you don't know who the hidden members are, it won't help you. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Large list import
I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an internal error. Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? -George -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
--On Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:35 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an internal error. Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? YEah there are CLI tools to do the additions but I dont' think you'll want to do this... At ~15k subscribers on a list we have it's pudgy and slow, it'd be unusuable at 200k. Mailman rewrites the entire config.pck/list config file for every add/remove/change on a list. Very inefficient, very unscaleable. I'm poking around at the code lately deciding if I'll tackle the job of fixing that or not...but until then you might want to do something with a sort of umbrella/sub list approach. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an internal error. Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? That's a LARGE list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.015.htp It sounds like you're using web mass subscribe. Is that the case? You might be better off with bin/add_members, but you should probably run it without notifications or welcome messages. See the entire thread starting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041736.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
Fortunately this person wants the list to be completely moderated so that there will not be back and forth traffice, just outbound. Will this help matters and make it snappy enough? Oh, I just read the rest of your message! :) It appears that it truly is handling things inefficiently in the list subscriber IO. Wow, this is a real problem. What should I do? Are there other solutions that are better than Mailman for this? Not quite sure what you mean by the umbrella/sub list approach. Thanks for the heads up! On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: --On Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:35 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an internal error. Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? YEah there are CLI tools to do the additions but I dont' think you'll want to do this... At ~15k subscribers on a list we have it's pudgy and slow, it'd be unusuable at 200k. Mailman rewrites the entire config.pck/list config file for every add/remove/change on a list. Very inefficient, very unscaleable. I'm poking around at the code lately deciding if I'll tackle the job of fixing that or not...but until then you might want to do something with a sort of umbrella/sub list approach. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists% 40southernohio.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
--On Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:07 AM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately this person wants the list to be completely moderated so that there will not be back and forth traffice, just outbound. Will this help matters and make it snappy enough? Oh, I just read the rest of your message! :) It appears that it truly is handling things inefficiently in the list subscriber IO. Wow, this is a real problem. What should I do? Are there other solutions that are better than Mailman for this? Not quite sure what you mean by the umbrella/sub list approach. Thanks for the heads up! Multiple lists each woth ~10k or ~15k subscribers, and then one master list with all those sub-lists subscribed. Sub lists configured to only take postings formt he master listthis DOES complicate subscribing though. so YMWV :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Safe Archive Clean
Hi, Young, Darren wrote: Now, what I'm finding is that if a list has content filtering disabled, or set to allow other MIME types through (such as HTML) and if a member is of type digest and they have the plain option enabled for digests, they receive a message in their digest with a URL of where they can see a copy of the original message. The URL included has a pipermail address in it. On the server, the file was placed in that directory however I have pipermail disabled (since we don't support archives). Any way to disable this part or do I just need to wipe those archived files? Currently, the plain text digest saves attachments in the pipermail area on the hypothis that the archive is available. Or, the digest members have no means to get the attachments other than to decode MIME manually. You should wipe the archive periodically if you don't want those to be kept in the archive area. You may also have to tell the list owners (and users) your policy and not to use plain text digests but use mime digests. You will have to hack the code if you want to do this silently. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
