Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG problems
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, George Theall wrote: Hi all. Now I have applied the patch for mailman 1.0.5 and htdig is activated. Are you sure about that version number??? Sorry, 2.1.5 :$ Also, this means we've solved the gzip problem, right? Yes. it was named .gz when I downloaded it. After gunzip it was named htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch but file still said that it was a compressed archive so I renamed it to gz again and ran gunzip. After that it worked. on every privat archive. But when filling in the search field and press search, I only get an empty screen as result. Do the webserver logs show anything about the problem? You can test whether htsearch itself is working by running from a commandline the following: /usr/bin/htsearch -c $prefix/archives/htdig/listname.conf Give it something to search for and answer short for the format value. Nothing in the webserverlog but the comandline test gave no output at all: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-2.1.5]# /usr/bin/htsearch -c /prod/mailman/archives/private/si s/htdig/sis.conf Enter value for words: ledarhund Enter value for format: short Content-type: text/html [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-2.1.5]# The htdig cron event has scanned the archive and all files are there: [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdig]# ls -l total 122064 -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 5554176 Mar 13 13:46 db.docdb -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 1351680 Mar 13 13:46 db.docs.index -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 84451328 Mar 13 13:46 db.excerpts -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 35179520 Mar 13 13:49 db.words.db -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 16384 Mar 13 13:46 db.words.db_weakcmpr -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 0 Mar 13 13:49 rundig_last_run -rw-rw-rw-1 mailman mailman 3805 Mar 12 11:14 sis.conf -- ___ Joakim Nomell Phn: +46 70 771 31 00 MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix engineer Fax: +46 70 711 31 00 Web : http://nomell.se --- * When seeking love gives nothing, have found love gives all * -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] investigating attack-like mailfailures
Mark / Brad, Many thanks for your mails. I have tracked down (most of) what's going on. vette:48:Mar 12 01:20:18 2005 (2549) alu-board-only post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Post by non-member to a members-only list Because the sender was spoofed as coming from alu.org, the you are on hold message went to bibop's mail server, which happens to return the code 450 (= temporary failure?) for unknown users. It looks like mailman keeps trying to resend a 450 bounce, every 15(?) minutes. Bounces from other mail servers tend to carry the 550 code (= permanent failure?) and mailman gives up. Uhm, will it keep on doing this forever? It's tried sending to beverley over 130 times since yesterday morning. Regards, - nick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] investigating attack-like mailfailures
Brad, It's not Mailman trying to resend the message. It's your MTA, to which Mailman handed over the message. Aha. However, the MTA-specific aspects of this process are something you should pursue on a mailing list or newsgroup that is appropriate to your MTA (e.g., postfix-users), and not here. Of course. Thanks again. - nick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help!
I am administrator of four lists and can't seem to find any options that will forward bounces to me...I want to know which email addresses are bad, rejected, etc., so that I can research them and make the appropriate changes/updates to my list...can you tell me where in the setup menu I need to go to make that change? thank you! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] installing..PLEASE help
Hi there, I've just installed mailman on a Linux server, and I'm having a few problems, some which may be related. Well here goes: 1. I'm using sendmail as my mailing system. I went through the tutorial , and tried to create the sendmail.cf file from the sample file in ../mailman../contrib. I only changed a few lines related to my host etc. bit when I ran the m4 and then restarted sendmail I got a lot of errors, Here is a snip: (and BTW, all the files that are referred as 'No such file or directory' DO exist in /etc/mail where all my sendmail configuration is done ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# make start service sendmail start Starting sendmail: 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 7: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(local_procmail)': No such file or directory 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 8: MAILER(local): A= argument required 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 19: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(mailertable,': No such file or directory 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 21: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(virtusertable,': No such file or directory 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 23: invalid argument to V line: IRTUSER_DOMAIN(aishl 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 28: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(limited_masquerade)': No such file or directory 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 29: MASQUERADE_AS(aishlist.com): A= argument required 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 32: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(access_db)': No such file or directory 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 35: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(blacklist_recipients)': No such file or directory 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 38: MAILER(smtp): A= argument required 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 39: MAILER(procmail): A= argument required 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 42: MAILER_DEFINITIONS: A= argument required 554 5.0.0 No local mailer defined 554 5.0.0 QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set [FAILED] Starting sm-client:[ OK ] --- 2. I've successfully created a few lists via the command line, but when I try to create a list on the web, I get this message: Error: you are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I'm using my site password (which I know I created), which is the same as list administrator password for the bottom field, and yes, I've recreated the password and tries creating the list several times. I know I have'nt misspelled anything. 3. When I try to view the list properties on the web, for instance: If I created a list called 'test', and I go to www.dom.ain\mailman\admin\testI get a message: No such list: test. (and it does exist when I run the list_lists command, it's there!) I'd really appreciate if there is anyone out there who could help me. well, waiting... Tamara -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to use mailman without apache?
Thx, it work! On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 07:15:55 -0800, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carfield Yim wrote: Actually I just want to approve a pending mail, can I do it with command line? I'm not sure about command line, but you can do it by e-mail. If admin_immed_notify is set to Yes, the notification message that is sent contains a message/rfc822 part similar to the following: -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: confirm 750c69674069227167abb400c93d75b58234d6f1 Sender: listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the reply. --- Thus, you can actually send any message to the listname-request address with the confirm token command in the subject with an Approved: password header or first body line to approve the message or without Approved: to discard it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to use mailman without apache?
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:16:21 +0100, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:27 PM +0800 2005-03-12, Carfield Yim wrote: Actually I just want to approve a pending mail, can I do it with command line? Yes. The administrators of very large scale Mailman mailing lists are effectively required to do everything via the command line, because the web interface becomes virtually useless for them. However, I do not know the exact sequence of commands that would be required. So... could anyone help me? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] munging email address in archives
I was told by a subscriber of a list I manage that there are some worms/viruses which are able to parse addresses in the form user at domain dot domain, like those used in the archives by mailman. Do you know if there is some provision in Mailman 2.2 to let the list admin choose a munging expression for addresses? I do not know Python at all, but I hope it would not be so difficult, especially if there is already a function which performs the munging! TIA, .mau. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Email Features in Mailman
Hi, could I ask for a wee bit support please.? Have read the FAQ's etc and understand how to add a user by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] which in our case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] however the sender is not added to the list. We do have a catch all which I switched off but that didn't help. Any suggestions appreciated and thank you! Dave. Disclaimer of Content and Validity Mr David T Wills Managing Director Co-Founder Naughty Vend (UK) Ltd. Office Suite 610 456-458 The Strand London, WC2R 0DZ This email is intended solely for the addressee, is strictly confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead, please email it back to the sender and then immediately and permanently delete it. Naughty Vend (UK) Ltd., Company Number SC270576 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses but does not guarantee that it will be virus free. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] noobie question
At 8:21 PM -0600 2005-03-13, Mike Edwards wrote: I'm having trouble getting mailman and postfix to work together-- despite reading all the FAQs and other docs I can find. I have successfully set up a virtual postfix domain, but can't get mailman to answer mail properly (it sends out fine). You're not giving us a whole lot to work with here. If you want us to be able to help you, we're going to need more information. Please see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.023.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG problems
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:55:16PM +0100, Joakim Nomell wrote: /usr/bin/htsearch -c $prefix/archives/htdig/listname.conf Give it something to search for and answer short for the format value. Nothing in the webserverlog but the comandline test gave no output at all: This suggests a problem with htdig / htsearch rather than Mailman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-2.1.5]# /usr/bin/htsearch -c /prod/mailman/archives/private/si s/htdig/sis.conf You could try adding -v -v before the -c to increase the verbosity level. [EMAIL PROTECTED] htdig]# ls -l ... -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 16384 Mar 13 13:46 db.words.db_weakcmpr Some versions of htdig have a bug that requires this file be writeable by the user running htsearch. Try making it world writeable and rerun the htsearch commandline. If it works, you could change the permissions back and change ownership to be that of the web server uid. If not, ask on htdig-general (http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=4593). George -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgplZtU3sRkJx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] installing..PLEASE help
At 12:54 PM -0800 2005-03-13, Tamara Yoggev wrote: Starting sendmail: 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 7: fileclass: cannot open 'ATURE(local_procmail)': No such file or directory This is supposed to be FEATURE(local_procmail). Somehow, the leading FE appears to have been left off, and this has almost certainly caused everything else to be thrown out of what. If you correct the use of ATURE with FEATURE and re-try, you'll have a better chance of getting that to work. Of course, these changes need to be made in a file like /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, and then you use m4 to compile that into the corresponding /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. If you did this directly in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, then that would be your other problem. 2. I've successfully created a few lists via the command line, but when I try to create a list on the web, I get this message: Error: you are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I'm using my site password (which I know I created), which is the same as list administrator password for the bottom field, and yes, I've recreated the password and tries creating the list several times. I know I have'nt misspelled anything. Not sure what to tell you. This error should only be issued when you're using an incorrect site password, as generated by mmsitepass. What's showing up in your logs? 3. When I try to view the list properties on the web, for instance: If I created a list called 'test', and I go to www.dom.ain\mailman\admin\testI get a message: No such list: test. (and it does exist when I run the list_lists command, it's there!) You need to use forward slashes, not backslashes. You also need to avoid the use of the vertical pipe character. However, until you can get problems #1 and #2 corrected, I wouldn't be surprised that you'd have additional problems like this. Go back and get #1 and #2 fixed, and that may very well fix #3 as well. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help!
At 2:28 PM -0500 2005-03-13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am administrator of four lists and can't seem to find any options that will forward bounces to me...I want to know which email addresses are bad, rejected, etc., so that I can research them and make the appropriate changes/updates to my list...can you tell me where in the setup menu I need to go to make that change? Whenever an address is unsubscribed from the list due to excessive bounces, you should get a notice which includes all the relevant information. You won't otherwise get any notices, as Mailman handles this stuff internally. If you want to be notified of any problems whatsoever, so far as I know the only solution is to set your unsubscribe threshold to a single bounce. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email Features in Mailman
At 10:52 AM + 2005-03-14, David Wills wrote: Have read the FAQ's etc and understand how to add a user by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] This syntax does not work with Mailman. Instead, send an e-mail message to listname-request with a subject line of subscribe. Or use listname-join, as opposed to listname_join. which in our case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] however the sender is not added to the list. We do have a catch all which I switched off but that didn't help. In particular, note the use of the dash character instead of the underbar. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] munging email address in archives
At 10:43 AM + 2005-03-14, maurizio codogno wrote: I was told by a subscriber of a list I manage that there are some worms/viruses which are able to parse addresses in the form user at domain dot domain, like those used in the archives by mailman. I would not be surprised. This issue has been previously reported. See http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1059637group_id=103atid=100103, among others. Do you know if there is some provision in Mailman 2.2 to let the list admin choose a munging expression for addresses? Mailman 2.2 does not exist, at least not yet. I do not know Python at all, but I hope it would not be so difficult, especially if there is already a function which performs the munging! I think this has been discussed on the list fairly extensively. Check the archives to see if anyone else has provided a recommended patch for this issue. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Too many recip moderation?
Can I turn this off? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many recip moderation?
On Mar 14, 2005, at 22:22, John Fleming wrote: Can I turn this off? Yes. Set max_num_recipients to 0 on the Privacy... Recipients filters... page. (User education may be better. :-) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/ Ringo MUG Tokyo http://www.ringo.net/rss.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
SOLVED - Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many recip moderation?
Can I turn this off? Yes. Set max_num_recipients to 0 on the Privacy... Recipients filters... page. Thanks - I looked, but missed this. Agreed on User Education. - John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Latency in 2.1.5
I run a list with ~200 recipients that sees about 80-100 posts per day. It's running 2.1.5 on Solaris 8 (pretty well patched) on a SunBlade 100 with plenty of memory and disk. On a pretty regular basis, I see messages take a long time to make it through the Mailman queue. Today's example was for 50 minutes. I think. It's hard to tell. But here's some sendmail logs: Here's where it came in: Mar 14 06:58:05 REMOVED sm-mta[22367]: [ID 801593 mail.info] j2EEvxPo022367: from=REMOVED, size=2487, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=REMOVED [REMOVED] and here's the first batch it sent out: Mar 14 07:48:30 REMOVED sm-mta[26377]: [ID 801593 mail.info] j2EFmTgK026377: [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=3530, class=-30, nrcpts=24, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] I looked at the logs and found this: the previous post finished at 07:48:29, suspiciously 1 second before the first batch of the next message was sent. This post finished at 08:08:09 ... 20 minutes later? Could it really be taking 20 minutes to post? The entry in the smtp log says this: Mar 14 08:08:09 2005 (25898) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 209 recips, completed in 1180.264 seconds So, uh, yes I guess it did take that long. I use weekly archives, and this week's archive directory only has about a dozen messages in it. The HTML archive was generated at 07:50:19 ... So I guess there are two variables at work here that determine latency: how long it takes to do one message, and how many messages are ahead of you. Any ideas why this is taking so long or where else I could look to check into it? Thanks, /jordan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5
Hi everybody!
I'm wanting to use mailman on a postfix-powered machine with virtual
domains. As i found out that out-of-the-box mailman does not support
this fine (one only namespace for mailing list names etc) i found this
patch in the FAQ of mailman:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103
The problem i have with it is that it seems to be for an older version
of mailman. It says something of version 2.1.1. I'm using 2.1.5 so it
will not apply. I tried to patch the file manually reading the patch and
making the changes in the source file, everything installes fine but
when i try to access mailman's listinfo cgi with a browser, i get this:
Mar 14 17:45:11 2005 admin(4153):
admin(4153): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -]
admin(4153): [- Traceback --]
admin(4153): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(4153): File /home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 94, in run_main
admin(4153): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(),
[scriptname])
admin(4153): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 27, in ?
admin(4153): from Mailman import MailList
admin(4153): IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer
indentation level (MailList.py, line 449)
admin(4153): [- Python Information -]
admin(4153): sys.version = 2.3.4 (#1, Mar 3 2005, 21:56:32)
[GCC 3.3.5 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1)]
admin(4153): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python
admin(4153): sys.prefix = /usr
admin(4153): sys.exec_prefix = /usr
admin(4153): sys.path= /usr
admin(4153): sys.platform= linux2
admin(4153): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(4153):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache
admin(4153):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo
admin(4153):SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache Server at
lists.citservice.de Port 80/address
admin(4153):
admin(4153):REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(4153):HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300
admin(4153):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(4153):QUERY_STRING:
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
admin(4153):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64;
en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050301 Firefox/1.0.1
admin(4153):HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive
admin(4153):SERVER_NAME: lists.citservice.de
admin(4153):REMOTE_ADDR: 213.54.138.86
admin(4153):SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(4153):SERVER_ADDR: 80.190.241.119
admin(4153):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/mailman
admin(4153):PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman
admin(4153):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
admin(4153):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(4153):HTTP_HOST: lists.citservice.de
admin(4153):HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0
admin(4153):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
admin(4153):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(4153):REMOTE_PORT: 55268
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: de-de,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate
Is there a working and maybe something tested patch for version 2.1.5
already? Or another fine solution to make real virtual hosting?
Thank you all in advance!
Christian Anton
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[Mailman-Users] Admin pw: change_pw Vs. web interface
I have noticed that when changing the password for a list administrator using change_pw, that mailman automatically e-mails a notification to the list owner of the change. When changing the list administrator password via the Web Interface, there is no e-mail notification. Is there a way to automatically have an e-mail notification sent to the list owner when resetting the administrator password done via the Web Interface? Ruben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5
Christian Anton wrote:
I'm wanting to use mailman on a postfix-powered machine with virtual
domains. As i found out that out-of-the-box mailman does not support
this fine (one only namespace for mailing list names etc) i found this
patch in the FAQ of mailman:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103
The problem i have with it is that it seems to be for an older version
of mailman. It says something of version 2.1.1. I'm using 2.1.5 so it
will not apply. I tried to patch the file manually reading the patch and
making the changes in the source file, everything installes fine but
when i try to access mailman's listinfo cgi with a browser, i get this:
Mar 14 17:45:11 2005 admin(4153):
admin(4153): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -]
admin(4153): [- Traceback --]
admin(4153): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(4153): File /home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 94, in run_main
admin(4153): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(),
[scriptname])
admin(4153): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 27, in ?
admin(4153): from Mailman import MailList
admin(4153): IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer
indentation level (MailList.py, line 449)
snip
Indentation is critical in Python. You have not properly matched
indentation between the patch and the base in MailList.py. It is
safest to indent with spaces only. Mixing spaces and tabs in one file
causes problems.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin pw: change_pw Vs. web interface
Franco, Ruben wrote: I have noticed that when changing the password for a list administrator using change_pw, that mailman automatically e-mails a notification to the list owner of the change. When changing the list administrator password via the Web Interface, there is no e-mail notification. Is there a way to automatically have an e-mail notification sent to the list owner when resetting the administrator password done via the Web Interface? Not without changing the code in Mailman/Cgi/admin.py. The change_pw script was developed primarily to address the change in stored password format in Mailman 2.1 that required resetting all list passwords and notifying list owners. Presumably, that's why it has this feature and the web interface doesn't. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Using Mailman for High Volume Subscription Mailings... and High Availability
The organization I work for has a membership (list) base of in excess of 90,000 users. In the past, we've outsourced our mailings (not spam! but legitimate newsletter mailings that our users sign up for) to external companies that have sophisticated bounce handling, etc. etc. I have been asked if we could bring this task in-house. I wonder what resources (and perhaps fine-tuning) would be required to get Mailman to accomodate these sorts of large tasks. Earlier, I posted a question about High Availability and received only one response (thank you, though). There has to be a way to scale Mailman into a large infrastructure (?). Given that Mailman is, in of itself, an API, there must be some way to hook into the MTA (Postfix, in our case). I'd appreciate information from someone who has implemented something this significant. The outsourced company we used in the past had sophisticated queue monitoring tools (php-based) as well as queue management (Postfix used as the MTA). Thanks in advance -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] cc messages to mailman lists
My boss just asked me why messages sent via cc to a list end up in the pending queue. My assumption is that it is to prevent spam, but is there any way to turn this feature off? (Note: I do not think it is a good idea to turn it off, but am being *requested* to do itG). Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Database....
It seems that many of the scalability issues could be addressed by changing the backend database that Mailman uses... to SQL. If we had the ability to store content in a backend SQL database - we could further scale this using standard mechanisms. Thoughts? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cc messages to mailman lists
Anne Shroeder - Internet Society wrote: My boss just asked me why messages sent via cc to a list end up in the pending queue. My assumption is that it is to prevent spam, but is there any way to turn this feature off? (Note: I do not think it is a good idea to turn it off, but am being *requested* to do itG). Do you really mean via Cc:, or do you mean via Bcc:? Messages sent to a list via Bcc: are generally held (depending on settings) for implicit destination. There should be no difference between a post with the list address in Cc: vs. To: everything else being equal. Every message that is held has a reason associated with it which is reported in the admindb interface and in the notice to the list owner. What is the reason in these cases? If the messages are being held for implicit destination, see the admin pages Privacy options...-Recipient filters-require_explicit_destination. Also look at max_num_recipients on the same page in case the real reason is too many recipients. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Database....
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 15:36 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote: It seems that many of the scalability issues could be addressed by changing the backend database that Mailman uses... to SQL. If we had the ability to store content in a backend SQL database - we could further scale this using standard mechanisms. Thoughts? I believe this is on the to-do list for Mailman Version 3.0 (a.k.a MM3) -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Database....
John Dennis wrote: On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 15:36 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote: It seems that many of the scalability issues could be addressed by changing the backend database that Mailman uses... to SQL. If we had the ability to store content in a backend SQL database - we could further scale this using standard mechanisms. Thoughts? I believe this is on the to-do list for Mailman Version 3.0 (a.k.a MM3) It is. See http://www.list.org/todo.html In the mean time there is a MySQL MemberAdaptor for Mailman 2.1 at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=839386group_id=103atid=300103 -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] moving archives between lists
One of our list owners wishes to change the name of his list. I could not find a rename utility so we are going to try creating a new list and then moving members and the post archives to a newly created list. I was able to export and then import he users but Have run into problems copying over the archives. Tried copying the contents of the ./archives/private/old_list into the ./archives/private/new_list. While the archives are viewable, some links in the archive pages are hard coded to the old_list. Is there any kind of migration utility that could more cleanly move the archives over or something to fix the links to point to the new_list? Ruben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
RE: [Mailman-Users] moving archives between lists
That did the trick. Thanks. Ruben -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:33 PM To: Franco, Ruben Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] moving archives between lists On Mar 14, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Franco, Ruben wrote: Is there any kind of migration utility that could more cleanly move the archives over or something to fix the links to point to the new_list? No. Copy the old list's mbox file from $PREFIX/archives/private/oldlistname.mbox/oldlistname.mbox into $PREFIX/archives/private/newlistname.mbox/newlistname.mbox and run bin/arch --wipe. Dan Dan Phillips Professor of Horn, University of Memphis webmaster: http://music.memphis.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Latency in 2.1.5
At 8:54 AM -0800 2005-03-14, Jordan Hayes wrote: Any ideas why this is taking so long or where else I could look to check into it? I suggest going to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and searching for performance. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman for High Volume Subscription Mailings... and High Availability
At 1:09 PM -0500 2005-03-14, Forrest Aldrich wrote: I wonder what resources (and perhaps fine-tuning) would be required to get Mailman to accomodate these sorts of large tasks. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.015.htp. Also search for performance within the FAQ Wizard. Earlier, I posted a question about High Availability and received only one response (thank you, though). There has to be a way to scale Mailman into a large infrastructure (?). Given that Mailman is, in of itself, an API, there must be some way to hook into the MTA (Postfix, in our case). In terms of doing high-availability, I think most people have been splitting the front-end web service from the back-end list processing, as well as splitting the MTA services onto separate machines. If you need the back-end Mailman-only stuff to also be highly available, you should be able to mostly do that with NFS, but this may run into some problems, and will certainly cost you in terms of performance. I'd appreciate information from someone who has implemented something this significant. Most of the information about large-scale mailing lists is already found in the FAQ entry mentioned above, or in the archives. There's a lot less information in the FAQ Wizard or in the archives with regards to high-availability configurations. I don't think anyone anywhere has publicly talked about doing both high-volume and high-availability, at least not with Mailman. The outsourced company we used in the past had sophisticated queue monitoring tools (php-based) as well as queue management (Postfix used as the MTA). Postfix can be a really good MTA for mailing lists, at least for handling outbound e-mail. If you get into lots of message scanning and having to pass through multiple scanning systems (e.g., multiple anti-spam and anti-virus scanning systems), then I think sendmail would scale better (due to the milter interface), but sendmail would also take more work to configure, and more care and feeding to keep going once it's configured. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Cancel Rest of Traffic?
Hi. We sent out a large mailing and mailman 2.1.5/postfix processed it quite well. Right now we're seeing bounces come back and the system trying to redeliver queued messages, etc... This was a one shot deal and the bounces really aren't that important to record. Is there a way that we can send them to /dev/null and empty the postfix queue? Hunter -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cancel Rest of Traffic?
Hunter Hillegas wrote: We sent out a large mailing and mailman 2.1.5/postfix processed it quite well. Right now we're seeing bounces come back and the system trying to redeliver queued messages, etc... This was a one shot deal and the bounces really aren't that important to record. Is there a way that we can send them to /dev/null and empty the postfix queue? It seems this is a Postfix issue, not a Mailman issue, at least as far as the messages still queued for delivery is concerned. If you don't want to process any future returned bounces, you could probably just change the listname-aliases address to pipe the message to the bit bucket. As far as emptying the Postfix queue goes, this would be better persued using lists or other resources dedicated to Postfix rather than Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cancel Rest of Traffic?
Mark Sapiro wrote: If you don't want to process any future returned bounces, you could probably just change the listname-aliases address to pipe the message to the bit bucket. Sorry, the above should say ... change the listname-bounces address alias ... -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Configuring the UI of Mailmain interface
Greetings Mailman community, I have successfully installed and am using Mailman, and now I would like to just clean it up. For example, there are several confirmation pages. I would like to customize the font info using a stylesheet. Is this possible? I would also like to customize the text on these confirm/authorization pages as well, what the text says on these pages to make it more personalized. Possible? Also, with the language feature when people subscribe, the languages are rendering in the title ONLY of my confirm pages, but not in the text itself (Because I made customized text perhaps?) Does the language feature only work with the default text remains intact? Lastly, I want to link the images of Mailman, Python, and that Moose image (what page does it represent?) anyway I want to link these images to the appropriate home pages. Possible? How? Thanks in advance for your help, Jessica -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman for High Volume Subscription Mailings... and High Availability
Brad Knowles wrote: [ ... ] In terms of doing high-availability, I think most people have been splitting the front-end web service from the back-end list processing, as well as splitting the MTA services onto separate machines. If you need the back-end Mailman-only stuff to also be highly available, you should be able to mostly do that with NFS, but this may run into some problems, and will certainly cost you in terms of performance. [ ... ] I don't think anyone anywhere has publicly talked about doing both high-volume and high-availability, at least not with Mailman. I gather this, from all the searching I've done.I've not really found any useful information about scaling and high-availabilty/redundancy in the FAQ or anywhere else. The HA solution will very likely be solved with a stable database/backend hook where we can store/retrieve Mailman's information -- standard scalablity on that side will be relatively straightforward. I've not looked into the MyslqMembership hack yet. Has anyone used this? Thanks, Forrest -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring the UI of Mailmain interface
Jessica Martin wrote:
I have successfully installed and am using Mailman, and now I would like
to just clean it up.
For example, there are several confirmation pages. I would like to
customize the font info using a stylesheet. Is this possible?
I would also like to customize the text on these confirm/authorization
pages as well, what the text says on these pages to make it more
personalized. Possible?
Some but not all e-mail text and web HTML is in template files in
templates/language/. That which is derived from templates is easily
customizable. The rest requires source code modification and possibly
modification of i18n translated messages to do any customization.
Information on customizing templates is in the FAQ at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp
Also, with the language feature when people subscribe, the languages are
rendering in the title ONLY of my confirm pages, but not in the text
itself (Because I made customized text perhaps?) Does the language feature
only work with the default text remains intact?
If you made customized text by changing text inside _() in source code,
you also have to change the appropriate
messages/language/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po file and then rebuild the
corresponding mailman.mo file with bin/msgfmt.py
Lastly, I want to link the images of Mailman, Python, and that Moose image
(what page does it represent?) anyway I want to link these images to the
appropriate home pages. Possible? How?
It's a gnu, not a moose.
From the INSTALL document (or from
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html)
- Copy the Mailman, Python, and GNU logos to a location accessible
to your web server. E.g. with Apache, you've usually got an
`icons' directory that you can drop the images into. For
example:
% cp $prefix/icons/*.{jpg,png} /path/to/apache/icons
You then want to add a line to your $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
file which sets the base URL for the logos. For example:
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/'
The default value for IMAGE_LOGOS is '/icons/'. Read the
comment in Defaults.py.in for details.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman for High Volume Subscription Mailings... and High Availability
Forrest Aldrich wrote: I don't think anyone anywhere has publicly talked about doing both high-volume and high-availability, at least not with Mailman. pair.com has investigated this and put considerable resources into these questions. their newsgroups are semipublic, but i am sure if you ask Kevin Martin he can point you in the right direction. excellent people there. kind regards philippe -- I gather this, from all the searching I've done.I've not really found any useful information about scaling and high-availabilty/redundancy in the FAQ or anywhere else. The HA solution will very likely be solved with a stable database/backend hook where we can store/retrieve Mailman's information -- standard scalablity on that side will be relatively straightforward. I've not looked into the MyslqMembership hack yet. Has anyone used this? Thanks, Forrest -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help!
On 3/14/2005 4:09, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:28 PM -0500 2005-03-13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am administrator of four lists and can't seem to find any options that will forward bounces to me...I want to know which email addresses are bad, rejected, etc., so that I can research them and make the appropriate changes/updates to my list...can you tell me where in the setup menu I need to go to make that change? Whenever an address is unsubscribed from the list due to excessive bounces, you should get a notice which includes all the relevant information. You won't otherwise get any notices, as Mailman handles this stuff internally. If you want to be notified of any problems whatsoever, so far as I know the only solution is to set your unsubscribe threshold to a single bounce. Given control of the MTA configuration (as opposed to that being a provider function) it should be easy with any MTA one is likely to be using to configure so that a copy of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls sent to anyone you want to annoy (preferably oneself). If in a jurisdiction where making copies of in-transit mail is generally illegal, one would want to find out whether it is illegal in the context of creating a copy of a message which is bound for an agent (Mailman) that one controls...that removes the third-party aspect and might or might not avert the prison sentence. (Seriously, it *can* be a touchy issue.) ---john -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
RE : [Mailman-Users] Misinterpretation of Re : prefix
Except for Outlook which set this subject prefix to Re : (note that in this case the prefix contains two tokens). Outlook express and Netscape put the rigt prefix Re: . After some tests, it seems that any one-token prefix is accepted (X for instance). And this is my problem. I would like to modify the code to accept at least both patterns (Re : and Re: ), but I don't know where the decoding of the subject is done. I guess it is a regexp ? As you correctly note, the contents of the Subject: is split into tokens. If the first token is not a command, the next is tried, but that's as far as it goes. The code is in Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py around line 134 if not self.subjcmdretried and args: self.subjcmdretried += 1 cmd = args.pop(0) return self.do_command(cmd, args) I have replaced the test with : if self.subjcmdretried2 and args: to make it try twice. Now email subscription works with Outlook as well. Another solutions would be to remove any ':' occurrence in the cmd param. Shouldn't this patch be included in mailman source ? Thanks a lot for your help. H -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
