[Mailman-Users] variable %(addr) not interpreted in customized template

2005-04-21 Thread Katharina
 
I have tried to cusotmize the welcome message in the usual way: created
a directory lists/mylist/en and copied templates/subscribeack.txt to
this directory where I edited it. In the new template I wanted as well
to make the address of the welcomed member visible and so I used the
variable %(addr). This has unfortunatelly not worked: What I got back
was the string %(addr) itself and no email address. What should I do
to get it write?
 
Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] variable %(addr) not interpreted in customized template

2005-04-21 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Apr 21, 2005, at 18:11, Katharina wrote:
a directory lists/mylist/en and copied templates/subscribeack.txt to
this directory where I edited it. In the new template I wanted as well
to make the address of the welcomed member visible and so I used the
variable %(addr). This has unfortunatelly not worked: What I got back
was the string %(addr) itself and no email address. What should I do
to get it write?
Try %(user)
You can see the variables that are available for substitution by 
checking mailman/Deliver.py's Deliverer.SendSubscribeAck().

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[Mailman-Users] Special characters crash Mailman?

2005-04-21 Thread Anurag
Hello,

I have some hundereds of held messages in mailman, but some mails have
special characters in them. When discarding them, mailman 2.1.5 says
it hit a bug. What i notice is that all other normal messages get
processed except those few. 

Is there any way i can manually delete that email (or all held
mesages) from the filesystem directly? I have some 15000 of held
messages in total so though of taking advice.

I can provide more details if i was not clear.


Anurag


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[Mailman-Users] Trouble posting to a list

2005-04-21 Thread Martin Dennett
I have a member of a list that I run who is not in the banned members, 
and is trying the very simple task of posting a mail to that list. He's 
forwarding me a copy of the mail and it is obviously being addressed 
correctly. Trouble is, the mail is not hitting the list, it's not 
getting sent to the administrator for approval (which it shouldn't 
anyway as there are no conditions that would cause it to), and the 
sender is not getting any mail back as to why his post is not reaching 
the list. I've even unsubbed and resubbed the member to no avail.

Anybody got any ideas please?
Regards
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[Mailman-Users] Resend

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them to 
through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I have 
to have the users resend the messages?  I'm using Fedora Core 2, with 
Postfix and Cyrus.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Resend Update

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
Ok after a little more careful viewing on my part I've found the 
following for settings:

Using the web interface under Content Filtering I have Should Mailman 
filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? set 
to No. 

To me this would imply that Mailman doesn't care if an attachment is 
part of an email.  If this is true then what else could cause these 
messages to be stuck?  I thought about HTML content in the message 
causing a problem but then I remembered that just yesterday I got a 
message that had HTML in it so that can't be the problem either.  Any ideas?

Thank You
http://nclack.k12.or.us/mailman/admin/all_sub/?VARHELP=contentfilter/filter_content 

Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
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Robert Haack wrote:
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them 
to through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I 
have to have the users resend the messages?  I'm using Fedora Core 2, 
with Postfix and Cyrus.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Resend Update

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
Ok after a little more careful viewing on my part I've found the 
following for settings:

Using the web interface under Content Filtering I have Should Mailman 
filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? set 
to No.
To me this would imply that Mailman doesn't care if an attachment is 
part of an email.  If this is true then what else could cause these 
messages to be stuck?  I thought about HTML content in the message 
causing a problem but then I remembered that just yesterday I got a 
message that had HTML in it so that can't be the problem either.  Any 
ideas?

Thank You
Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Robert Haack wrote:
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them 
to through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I 
have to have the users resend the messages?  I'm using Fedora Core 2, 
with Postfix and Cyrus.

Thank You
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[Mailman-Users] mailman

2005-04-21 Thread R. S.
Forgive me if I seem a little dense. I would like to use mailman with a very 
pretty form on my website. Is there any way to make a php or cgi form work with 
mailman. In other words, i would like someone on my site to fill out a form, 
and it will put their name in the mailman list and generate an email that will 
go to them and then they can log in and confirm the email sign up. I think the 
mailman script is a wonderful thing and puts the power of the list in the 
individuals hand. One more thing, is that I do not want anyone whatsoever to 
mail to this list except the administrator. Can the information be modified on 
the user screen in order to only allow them to change their individual settings 
or unsubscribe. Or better yet, is there a script that can be written or 
available that will do all this directly from the pretty web page that I will 
design, where they never have to log into the mailman screen. In other words 
they can't see the backend of the mail list, or even know !
 that they
 could try to mail to the list. Let me know if something is available or can be 
written. Thank You
 
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[Mailman-Users] Transfer list [complicated]

2005-04-21 Thread kim brooks wei
My webhost was shut down. I've been able to get access to my site and 
to a limited extent, to my mailman list. But I'm stuck now trying to 
transfer the list archives. I can't understand how to do this. This 
is the second time this has happened to me.

I'd like to find an effective way to completely transfer a list. Even 
membership records have been difficult to retrieve. I had to paste 
and copy them as I can only access the old site through an IP address.

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[Mailman-Users] Question about mailman--how many names on a lisit will it support

2005-04-21 Thread Phyllis Orrick
Hi there,

UC Berkeley user of major domo here. First of all, great news. Our current
system is creaky to say the least.

Question: I have a couple of lists that have about 3-5,000 names and
currently I have to break them up into two or three lists because major domo
just can't handle all of  them at once.

What's the limit for mailman?

Regards,

Phyllis Orrick

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[Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	As some would know, there seems to be an issue with Mailman 
on OSX, where some systems will periodically see the cronjob sending 
an error out to root via email in relation to the file 
config.pck.last not being able to be re-written or whatever.
	I have had this twice now, both times a couple of days after 
a System Update has been applied. On both occasions, I have run 
check_perms  the errors have disappeared. My guess here is that the 
system update (the latest being 10.3.9) seems to have changed 
something critical to Mailman in terms of permissions.
	So, if anyone else is experiencing this problem, I would 
suggest trying to run check_perms  see if the problems disappear. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and spam

2005-04-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:17 AM +0900 2005-04-21, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 Is this necessarily true?  On some systems (my lists' host, for one),
 the dominating cost of spam is network bandwidth.  Disk I/O and CPU
 are way behind.  So yes, if we can stop spam before we see the
 content, we win big.  But as I understand it, even sendmail milters
 read the whole message before making a decision.  So our costs remain
 basically the same as long as the spam is caught somewhere in the
 pipeline.
	You can't figure out what is spam and what isn't without scanning 
the content.  You're going to pay that network cost, period.  In my 
experience, the biggest cost is disk I/O operations in processing 
that message -- which is where sendmail+milter can be a huge win over 
other solutions which write the message to a temporary file and then 
pass that on to another program.

 Am I missing something?  I agree that every list admin should consider
 what they can do to reject spam as early in the pipeline as possible,
 but even in the case of counting Spamassassin s one might want to
 configure different lists differently.
	The earlier you can make decisions as to whether or not to throw 
something away, the better.  If you have to wait until the message 
gets to Mailman, you may be limited in terms of what you can do in 
order to deal with spam.  If you can deal with the spam earlier in 
the process, so much the better.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

2005-04-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:32 AM +0900 2005-04-21, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 It's a shame that we don't take more advantage of the flexibility that
 is offered by this feature.  It is _really_ easy to experiment with
 Mailman 2.1 if you know a little Python.
If you know a little Python.
If you can afford to run something other than an official release 
version.
	If you can go mucking about with a production server and risk 
blowing up all the mailing lists, just to try out a little hack.

	Programmers tend to think that everyone else in the world is a 
programmer, and then are amazed when others are not capable of doing 
the things that they find so easy.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about mailman--how many names on a lisit will it support

2005-04-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:50 AM -0700 2005-04-21, Phyllis Orrick wrote:
 Question: I have a couple of lists that have about 3-5,000 names and
 currently I have to break them up into two or three lists because major domo
 just can't handle all of  them at once.
 What's the limit for mailman?
See 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman

2005-04-21 Thread John Fleming
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 07:11 pm, R. S. wrote:
 Forgive me if I seem a little dense. I would like to use mailman with a
 very pretty form on my website. Is there any way to make a php or cgi form
 work with mailman. In other words, i would like someone on my site to fill
 out a form, and it will put their name in the mailman list and generate an
 email that will go to them and then they can log in and confirm the email
 sign up. I think the mailman script is a wonderful thing and puts the power
 of the list in the individuals hand. One more thing, is that I do not want
 anyone whatsoever to mail to this list except the administrator. Can the
 information be modified on the user screen in order to only allow them to
 change their individual settings or unsubscribe. Or better yet, is there a
 script that can be written or available that will do all this directly from
 the pretty web page that I will design, where they never have to log into
 the mailman screen. In other words they can't see the backend of the mail
 list, or even know ! that they
  could try to mail to the list. Let me know if something is available or
 can be written. Thank You

 r. Silva

The html to put on your website for people to use to subscribe to your list is 
in the Mailman FAQ:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#4.33

 When you set up the list, you can turn on moderation such that only the admin 
can post.

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[Mailman-Users] migration mailman lists, dealing with paths in config.db

2005-04-21 Thread Geoff Crompton
I'm trying to migrate our install of mailman on an old redhat server to 
a shiny old debian server.

Luckily both are running 2.0.11.
I've found that the lists/mylist/config.db file contains the paths to 
the archives. On the debian install the paths are a different location, 
so a variety of commands are failing.

Is there an easy way of updating the paths in the config.db file? I have 
tried the config_list program, it fails when using the -i option, do to 
the difference in paths! Preferably a scripty way, as there are quite a 
few lists to move.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread Larry Stone
On 4/21/05 4:47 PM, Terry Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As some would know, there seems to be an issue with Mailman
 on OSX, where some systems will periodically see the cronjob sending
 an error out to root via email in relation to the file
 config.pck.last not being able to be re-written or whatever.
 I have had this twice now, both times a couple of days after
 a System Update has been applied. On both occasions, I have run
 check_perms  the errors have disappeared. My guess here is that the
 system update (the latest being 10.3.9) seems to have changed
 something critical to Mailman in terms of permissions.
 So, if anyone else is experiencing this problem, I would
 suggest trying to run check_perms  see if the problems disappear.

Interesting. I updated to 10.3.9 last night and have had no problems.
Checking in my mailman directory, I see config.pck and config.pck.last files
that all have update times since the OS update.

I have not run Mac OS X's repair disk permissions since the update. I know
many people recommend doing so both before and after applying any OS update
but I've found doing so actually causes me problems - it changes the
permissions on /var/mail to something pine does not like.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread John W. Baxter
On 4/21/2005 18:00, Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have not run Mac OS X's repair disk permissions since the update. I know
 many people recommend doing so both before and after applying any OS update
 but I've found doing so actually causes me problems - it changes the
 permissions on /var/mail to something pine does not like.

Yes, it does (to 775).  So I change them back to 1777 after running repair
permissions.

  sudo chmod 1777 /var/mail

Not very painful.  (1777 allows the U of Washington libraries to create the
hitching post files they want to in /var/mail.  The 1 prevents the world
from deleting any file that that particular world user didn't create.  File
permissions prevent the wrong user from reading others' mail.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble posting to a list

2005-04-21 Thread John W. Baxter
On 4/21/2005 8:40, Martin Dennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a member of a list that I run who is not in the banned members,
 and is trying the very simple task of posting a mail to that list. He's
 forwarding me a copy of the mail and it is obviously being addressed
 correctly. Trouble is, the mail is not hitting the list, it's not
 getting sent to the administrator for approval (which it shouldn't
 anyway as there are no conditions that would cause it to), and the
 sender is not getting any mail back as to why his post is not reaching
 the list. I've even unsubbed and resubbed the member to no avail.
 
 Anybody got any ideas please?

You need to check the MTAs logs to find out whether the message even arrived
on the Mailman machine, and if so what happened to it.  If it got there and
was sent to Mailman in the usual way, then check the Mailman post log and
some of the others.

If you don't have access to the machine, this will be more difficult (or
more expensive, if the provider charges you for their time).

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 2nd release candidate

2005-04-21 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi all,
Afrer the release of RC1, we had a couple of reasons to delay the final, 
including a move of FSF office in the end of this month which are to be 
included in all the copyleft notices in the files.  I will also become 
busy on my paid duties and the final release of 2.1.6 may not occur by 
the middle of May. :-  So, we have much time to test or translate this 
2nd release candidate for the final 2.1.6.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103
or
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6rc2.tgz
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Re: [Mailman-Users] migration mailman lists, dealing with paths in config.db

2005-04-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Geoff Crompton wrote:

I'm trying to migrate our install of mailman on an old redhat server to 
a shiny old debian server.

Luckily both are running 2.0.11.

Luckier still if the new server had a 2.1.x version because then you
could use bin/fix_url.py (a withlist script) to fix the problem below.
As it is, you'll probably have to make your own withlist script to do
this.

I've found that the lists/mylist/config.db file contains the paths to 
the archives. On the debian install the paths are a different location, 
so a variety of commands are failing.

Is there an easy way of updating the paths in the config.db file? I have 
tried the config_list program, it fails when using the -i option, do to 
the difference in paths! Preferably a scripty way, as there are quite a 
few lists to move.

You need a bin/withlist script.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] migration mailman lists, dealing with paths in config.db

2005-04-21 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Apr 21, 2005, at 16:20, Geoff Crompton wrote:
Is there an easy way of updating the paths in the config.db file? I 
have tried the config_list program, it fails when using the -i option, 
do to the difference in paths! Preferably a scripty way, as there are 
quite a few lists to move.
What is the error message?  (I'm surprised that it fails.)
But ignoring that... it might be easiest to work around the problem by 
creating symbolic links at the old locations... at least long enough to 
update them.

You could use bin/withlist to modify all your lists.  (Run it with no 
arguments  for help.  In particular, not the section where it explains 
the -r argument.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread Terry Allen
On 4/21/05 4:47 PM, Terry Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As some would know, there seems to be an issue with Mailman
 on OSX, where some systems will periodically see the cronjob sending
 an error out to root via email in relation to the file
 config.pck.last not being able to be re-written or whatever.
 I have had this twice now, both times a couple of days after
 a System Update has been applied. On both occasions, I have run
 check_perms  the errors have disappeared. My guess here is that the
 system update (the latest being 10.3.9) seems to have changed
 something critical to Mailman in terms of permissions.
 So, if anyone else is experiencing this problem, I would
 suggest trying to run check_perms  see if the problems disappear.
Interesting. I updated to 10.3.9 last night and have had no problems.
Checking in my mailman directory, I see config.pck and config.pck.last files
that all have update times since the OS update.
I have not run Mac OS X's repair disk permissions since the update. I know
many people recommend doing so both before and after applying any OS update
but I've found doing so actually causes me problems - it changes the
permissions on /var/mail to something pine does not like.
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Hi again,
	Yes, I agree. It doesn't happen straight away - I had 3 days 
of runtime after the update before that problem showed up again. I 
have no answer  it does not seem to happen on every OSX installation 
either.
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