[Mailman-Users] invitation analysis

2005-08-18 Thread Shillong Dotcom
Hi,

The invitations sent from the admin area, can they be traced?

Regards

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual domains

2005-08-18 Thread Hans-Juergen Beie
On Thu, August 18, 2005 2:23, Mark Sapiro said:

 Hans-Juergen Beie wrote:

In the first case use
   add_virtualhost('www.ourdomain.com', 'newdomain.com')

 This will not work. add_virtualhost() is defined in Defaults.py and
 what it does is add a key:value pair to the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary
 where its first argument is the key and the second is the value.

[...]

 add_virtualhost('www.ourdomain.com', 'newdomain.com')

 will simply change the value associated with the 'www.ourdomain.com'
 key in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary from 'ourdomain.com' to
 'newdomain.com'. It will not make a second entry - Python dictionaries
 do not support multiple entries with the same key.

 In the first case, what you do is just keep the default

 add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

 only and change the host_name attribute of the users-discuss list to
 newdomain.com as I suggested in my previous post in this thread
 (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-August/046174.html).

OK. For some reason I'm missing this posting in my mail folders.
I didn't realize this key-value problem. But your explanation is pretty
clear. Thanks.

hjb :-?


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[Mailman-Users] Time shown in the log

2005-08-18 Thread Webmaster Travel In Spain
I was wondering if the duration shown in the smtp log file of mailman was the 
time mailman spent on the sending (I mean working on this particular task) or 
the difference time between the begining of the sending and the end.
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[Mailman-Users] How to enable printing aliases info to the screen

2005-08-18 Thread lkolchin
Hello All,
 
I've installed mailman-2.1.4-83.13 on SLES 9 machine.
 
Now I want to write some script to implement list creation and web-cyradm 
installation.
Tried to create file with the aliase info like this:
./newlist -q $mmlistname $admin $password  /tmp/new-mailman-list
 
but it is empty.
 
Tried to make it this way 
#./newlist mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] qwerty
but the aliases info won't print out on the screen.
 
I know that this info goes to /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases, but
 
How to enable printing aliases info to the screen on creating a new list? 
 
 
Best Regards,
 
Leon Kolchinsky
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[Mailman-Users] Message digest/archive oddity ...

2005-08-18 Thread Jason LaMar
A list subscriber submitted an HTML e-mail message from Outlook with a Word
attachment. It came across as a multi-part MIME, with these content type
headers (in this order) ...

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/html;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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[Mailman-Users] Message digest/archive oddity ...

2005-08-18 Thread Jason LaMar
Sorry about that. Let's try this again.

A list subscriber submitted an HTML e-mail message from Outlook with a Word
attachment. It came across as a multi-part MIME, with these content type
headers (in this order):

--=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170

--=_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--=_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: text/html;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: application/msword;
name=advice to faculty.doc
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=advice to faculty.doc

The body text of the message was under both the text/plain (unformatted) and
text/html (formatted) areas, and the message and attachment both rendered
fine for non-digest recipients.

Yet in both the digest and the archives, this message was simply listed as:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part
--
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: advice to faculty.doc
Type: application/msword
Size: 29696 bytes
Desc: not available


What happened? Why did the body of the message disappear? And how do I
prevent this from happening again?

Jason

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message digest/archive oddity ...

2005-08-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:52 AM -0400 2005-08-18, Jason LaMar wrote:

  What happened? Why did the body of the message disappear? And how do I
  prevent this from happening again?

This is a result of the Scrubber in action.  The problem is that 
when messages come into the mailing list in MIME format, it is not 
possible to put multiple messages together into a digest with all 
their various MIME bodyparts.

The non-text MIME bodyparts have to be scrubbed and placed in a 
particular directory on the webserver, and the Scrubber will normally 
include an URL pointing to their location so that people can retrieve 
those parts with their web browser.

Short of eliminating all non-text MIME bodyparts from the entire 
mailing list (including the digests), it is not possible to eliminate 
this scrubbing activity for digests.  It is possible to configure the 
Scrubber so that it does the same thing for regular mailing list 
recipients as it does for digest recipients, if that behaviour is 
preferred.

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[Mailman-Users] confirm for one list errors, other list works

2005-08-18 Thread Anne Ramey
I added a new list to my mailman yesterday (cplist), and copied the 
config over from another list (mbalist).  Subscribe comfirmations to 
cplist fail if you reply to the mail with Invalid confirmation 
string:, but the link inside the mail works fine.  The reply to the 
subscribe confirmation for the other list (mbalist) works fine.  I'm 
using mailman 2.1 on linux.  Any idea what might be causing this?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman digest headers

2005-08-18 Thread Fred H Olson
I'd like to have a less verbose and more appropriate masthead on digest
messages for an announcement list.  The limited ability to do this in
Mailman was explained in an earlier message:

 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Today's Topics to top of Digest?
 From: Mark Sapiro
 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 

 This subscribe and unsubscribe information is built from the
 masthead.txt template which can be edited to shorten it (see
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp),
 but the order - masthead.txt template, digest header if any, table of
 contents - is fixed in Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py

I wish the contents of masthead.txt (or similar) were the default in the
digest header so it could be edited. Footers have default text, why not
the digest_header ? Then if masthead.txt were eliminated, the default
would result in digests looking the same.

Is it possible to do this on a given installation now?  Is there a way to
change the default contents (at a given installation) of a string option
like digest_header ? If so, this change plus deleting the contents of
masthead.txt would result in what I'd like to see.

One of the parts of the masthead.txt (see example below) that is
inappropriate for announcement lists is submissions and reply
portions.  Ideally the defaults for the header would be conditional
depending on whether a list were an announcement list. BTW the it would be
nice if the Info page text related to post used a similar conditional.


 Example of Mailman digest masthead 

Send Mn-prog-events2 mailing list submissions to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://lists.cohousing.org/mailman/listinfo/mn-prog-events2
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can reach the person managing the list at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than Re: Contents of Mn-prog-events2 digest...

 END Example of Mailman digest masthead 

Fred, Mailman-users no mail mode subscriber -
   copy of replies direct appreciated

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[Mailman-Users] Fault Tolerance

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Elliott Finley
Any good links to fault tolerant implementations of Mailman?

Is it feasible to have one machine providing Mailman web services, and
two machines doing list processing?  What issues would I run into if I
tried that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman digest headers

2005-08-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:58 AM -0700 2005-08-18, Fred H Olson wrote:

  I wish the contents of masthead.txt (or similar) were the default in the
  digest header so it could be edited. Footers have default text, why not
  the digest_header ? Then if masthead.txt were eliminated, the default
  would result in digests looking the same.

If you want this, then you need to make source code changes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual domains

2005-08-18 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Thanks again, I will try this out - the server is down for a bit for 
maintenance...

 From what I gather, my scenario will require

add_virtualhost('www.ourdomain.com', 'newdomain.com')

Since our server name will not change... it will be:

http://www.ourdomain.com/lists/user-discuss

but the MAIL side of it will need to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
bidirectionally.





Hans-Juergen Beie wrote:

On Thu, August 18, 2005 2:23, Mark Sapiro said:

  

Hans-Juergen Beie wrote:



  

In the first case use
  add_virtualhost('www.ourdomain.com', 'newdomain.com')
  

This will not work. add_virtualhost() is defined in Defaults.py and
what it does is add a key:value pair to the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary
where its first argument is the key and the second is the value.



[...]

  

add_virtualhost('www.ourdomain.com', 'newdomain.com')

will simply change the value associated with the 'www.ourdomain.com'
key in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary from 'ourdomain.com' to
'newdomain.com'. It will not make a second entry - Python dictionaries
do not support multiple entries with the same key.

In the first case, what you do is just keep the default

add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

only and change the host_name attribute of the users-discuss list to
newdomain.com as I suggested in my previous post in this thread
(http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-August/046174.html).



OK. For some reason I'm missing this posting in my mail folders.
I didn't realize this key-value problem. But your explanation is pretty
clear. Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to enable printing aliases info to the screen

2005-08-18 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2005-08-18 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tried to make it this way 
 #./newlist mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] qwerty
 but the aliases info won't print out on the screen.
  
 I know that this info goes to /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases, but

That suggests you have set MTA = 'Postfix' in your mm_cfg.py.  If you 
set it to 'Manual' the aliases will be displayed for manual manipulation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Secure the admin pages

2005-08-18 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2005-08-18 23:14, Mike Hanby wrote:
 Howdy, does anyone know if it's possible to secure the admin pages with an
 .htaccess type security?
[...]
 Ex:  http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/admin/mailinglist
 
 Going to this page would pop up an Apache login prompt.  If successful, then
 the page would load where they would then have to log in using mailman's
 List Administrator Password.

You could use a FilesMatch directive to restrict access to the cgi 
scripts you were interested in:

FilesMatch (admin|admindb|create|edithtml|rmlist)
   AuthName Mailman
   [...]
   require valid-user
/FilesMatch

(Or a LocationMatch directive in your Apache configuration.)

Jim

P.S.  Your message might get more attention if you sent a new message 
to the mailing list rather than hijacking an existing thread (as you 
did by replying to a different message and simply changing the 
subject).  People that browse the list by thread might not see your 
message the way you have done it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] confirm for one list errors, other list works

2005-08-18 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2005-08-19 00:01, Anne Ramey wrote:
 I added a new list to my mailman yesterday (cplist), and copied the 
 config over from another list (mbalist).  Subscribe comfirmations to 
 cplist fail if you reply to the mail with Invalid confirmation 
 string:, but the link inside the mail works fine.  The reply to the 
 subscribe confirmation for the other list (mbalist) works fine.  I'm 
 using mailman 2.1 on linux.  Any idea what might be causing this?

Do the confirmation requests come from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Did you remember to create the cplist aliases?  (Especially the 
cplist-request alias pointing at |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
request cplist and not mbalist.)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Time shown in the log

2005-08-18 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2005-08-18 19:39, Webmaster Travel In Spain wrote:
 I was wondering if the duration shown in the smtp log file of mailman was the 
 time mailman spent on the sending (I mean working on this particular task) or 
 the difference time between the begining of the sending and the end.

It is the clock time in seconds required for Mailman to deliver the 
message to your SMTPHOST from where the messages will be (eventually) 
delivered to your subscribers.

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[Mailman-Users] Approved Messages Lost from Digest Archives

2005-08-18 Thread Eric Fox
I host a couple of small lists for various groups.  Recently one of them 
has been behaving very strangely.  It's a fully moderated list, and when 
the Admin approves several messages from the moderated queue, they get 
sent out fine to the immediate-deliver users, but only the first one 
will show up in the archives or go out in the digest.  All the other 
lists appear to be working without problems, just the one list looses 
messages.

I've been pounding my head against the table on this one for a while.  
Anyone have an idea what could have gone wrong?

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