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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations
Hi Mark, From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helmut Schneider wrote: Membership Management-Mass Subscription-Send welcome messages to new subscribeesand Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list. On the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't. Does the owner receive the owner notification? No. Are there any list specific templates in lists/listname/lang/ for two lists that don't work? No. I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they also work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that the concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain an underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Footers converted to nuisance text attachments for html emails
I can't find this in the FAQ, they only cover user-sent attachments. Our mailman 2.1.5 is correctly adding the footer we set up for text emails but for html format ones it adds it as a text attachment. Unfortunately most of our members post in html (they know no better and wouldn't know how to change it) therefore we keep sending out small attachments to the emails. I tried 'convert html to text' but that didn't seem to do anything. My preference would be to somehow incorporate the footer in the html of the email or failing that just not to add the footer to html emails. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers converted to nuisance text attachments for html emails
At 9:55 AM +0100 2006-07-14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried 'convert html to text' but that didn't seem to do anything. My preference would be to somehow incorporate the footer in the html of the email or failing that just not to add the footer to html emails. See FAQ 4.39. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List does not show on the overview page
I migrated mailman to a new box and everything went fine except one list does not show on the overview page. I ran withlist -l -r fix_url on the list, as I did with the others, but it still does not show on the overview of all lists pages. I am running mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.3 the list has a dir at /var/lib/mailman/lists. If I go directly to the lists url, the admin interface is there. Any suggestions ? -- James H. Edwards Network Systems Administrator Judicial Information Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Brian Cohen wrote: Everything else works: listinfo, admindb, mail processing and requests. Just admin triggers a bug. And only for one list? And there's nothing in the 'error' log? This is strange. Edit the file mailman/scripts/driver. About 30 lines into the file you will see STEALTH_MODE = 1 change this to STEALTH_MODE = 0 You don't have to restart Mailman. That's only required after changes affecting the queue runners, not the web interface. After making this change, the error information should display on the web page. Please report this information, and we can help further. Once you get the error information and traceback, you can set STEALTH_MODE back to 1 if you don't want this info displayed in general. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Ok, cool. Here's the traceback: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 250, in ? run_main() File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in run_main print_traceback(logger) File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 147, in print_traceback traceback.print_exc(file=logfp) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 210, in print_exc print_exception(etype, value, tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 123, in print_exception print_tb(tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 68, in print_tb line = linecache.getline(filename, lineno) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 14, in getline lines = getlines(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 40, in getlines return updatecache(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 93, in updatecache lines = fp.readlines() MemoryError Thanks, -Brian Mark Sapiro wrote: Brian Cohen wrote: Everything else works: listinfo, admindb, mail processing and requests. Just admin triggers a bug. And only for one list? And there's nothing in the 'error' log? This is strange. Edit the file mailman/scripts/driver. About 30 lines into the file you will see STEALTH_MODE = 1 change this to STEALTH_MODE = 0 You don't have to restart Mailman. That's only required after changes affecting the queue runners, not the web interface. After making this change, the error information should display on the web page. Please report this information, and we can help further. Once you get the error information and traceback, you can set STEALTH_MODE back to 1 if you don't want this info displayed in general. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers converted to nuisance text attachments forhtml emails
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried 'convert html to text' but that didn't seem to do anything. convert_html_to_plaintext is only effective if filter_content is Yes. There have also been issues in the past with some systems with the default HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT_COMMAND. See for example, http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-January/025369.html My preference would be to somehow incorporate the footer in the html of the email or failing that just not to add the footer to html emails. Brad has already referred you to FAQ 4.39 which explains why footers aren't simply be added to HTML parts. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List does not show on the overview page
james edwards wrote: I migrated mailman to a new box and everything went fine except one list does not show on the overview page. I ran withlist -l -r fix_url on the list, as I did with the others, but it still does not show on the overview of all lists pages. I am running mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.3 the list has a dir at /var/lib/mailman/lists. If I go directly to the lists url, the admin interface is there. Any suggestions ? Have you checked that Privacy options...-Subscription rules-advertised is set to Yes? Are you using virtual hosts, and if so, is this list on a different virtual host? If so, you need to use the --urlhost option with fix_url. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a list
If mm_cfg.py is set as 'OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes', is there a way to set the default for 'Also Delete Archives' to 'Yes'. For the purposes of most of the lists that I administer, they are only used for a limited period of time and then the subscribers/owners want the whole thing scrubbed. I have full access to the installation on the server, and have always removed lists and archives from the command line on request. However, I have been thinking of giving list owners the opportunity to delete their own lists, but I don't want archives left behind. On 7/13/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The League CA Cities wrote: i have tried looking through the FAQs just looking to remove some out of date lists If the installation has OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes in mm_cfg.py, there will be a 'Delete this mailing list' link under 'Other Administrative Activities' on the web admin interface. If not, you can use bin/rmlist listname to remove the list and keep the archives or bin/rmlist -a listname to remove everything, or you can just remove the directories lists/listname archives/private/listname archives/private/listname.mbox and the corresponding symlinks in archives/public if the archives are public. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/adamsca%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Christopher Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] header/footer attachments
Thanks for your reply. I think you misunderstood me. I didn't mean that the header and/or footer was added to other attachments. Typically, what happens is that list subscribers attach a PDF or Word document, using Outlook or Groupwise mail. All the lists have a standard footer set by default. Many times they send in HTML format, even when they think they are sending in plain text, as that is what it appears like to them. In my experience with Outlook and based on information from previous list messages here, if a message with PDF or Word attachment is sent in plain text or HTML to a list with a footer set in Mailman, the message will come across with the document attached as well as a separate footer attachment. If no document is attached, regardless of the mail format, the footer will appear in the message. However, yahoo mail handles it normally and Thunderbird includes a footer attachment, but also displays it. I guess I was surprised that I hadn't figured out that it depended on whether a document was attached. So, I will put that one to rest. I also am wondering how much other mailman administrators and list owners make use of the built-in content filtering. As I understand it, if content filtering is activated and say, for example, text/plain is added to 'Remove message attachments that have a matching content type', any footer that is attached should be removed. Again, based on the description of content-filtering, in the 'filter_action' option, This action is not taken if after filtering the message still contains content. In that case the message is always forwarded on to the list membership means that any message body would be delivered and only the attached footer would be dropped. On 7/13/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Adams wrote: I am trying to verify that this is normal behavior for Mailman. I have been doing this for a number of years and never realized this. According to a previous post to the list: Are you saying that the original posts to the list contain attachments that go to the list? If so, the list header and footer will always be added as separate MIME parts (attachments). I interpret this to mean that ANY message with an attachment, sent to a list that has header and footers appended, will put the footer and header into an attachment, along with the original attachment. I would like to verify that this is true before I pass the information on to list owners. Attachment is a very vague word in this context. What happens to list headers and footers depends on the MIME structure of the message. Most messages that have what are normally called 'attachments' have a main MIME type of multipart/mixed. For this type of message, Mailman will add the header by inserting it in a text/plain sub-part as the first sub-part of the multipart/mixed message and will add the footer by inserting it in a text/plain sub-part as the last sub-part of the multipart/mixed message. It will not add the header and footer to the 'attachment'. Whether the header and footer appear as inline text along with the 'message body' or as separate attachments is entirely a function of the MUA used to view the message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Christopher Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Brian Cohen wrote: Ok, cool. Here's the traceback: Traceback: This should be the traceback of the original error, but the attempt to produce it produced the MemoryError exception which produced the second traceback below. This is why the original traceback is not in the 'error' log. Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 250, in ? run_main() File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in run_main print_traceback(logger) File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 147, in print_traceback traceback.print_exc(file=logfp) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 210, in print_exc print_exception(etype, value, tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 123, in print_exception print_tb(tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 68, in print_tb line = linecache.getline(filename, lineno) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 14, in getline lines = getlines(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 40, in getlines return updatecache(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 93, in updatecache lines = fp.readlines() MemoryError So what we know is we encounter a MemoryError in trying to print the original traceback, so my guess is that was probably also due to a MemoryError. Does the list that fails have a large number of members compared to the other lists? MemoryError means the underlying Python interpreter got a denial on an attempt to allocate more memory (C's malloc() function). Is your web server enforcing some memory limit on CGI processes? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Mark Sapiro wrote: Brian Cohen wrote: Ok, cool. Here's the traceback: Traceback: This should be the traceback of the original error, but the attempt to produce it produced the MemoryError exception which produced the second traceback below. This is why the original traceback is not in the 'error' log. Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 250, in ? run_main() File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in run_main print_traceback(logger) File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 147, in print_traceback traceback.print_exc(file=logfp) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 210, in print_exc print_exception(etype, value, tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 123, in print_exception print_tb(tb, limit, file) File /usr/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 68, in print_tb line = linecache.getline(filename, lineno) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 14, in getline lines = getlines(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 40, in getlines return updatecache(filename) File /usr/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 93, in updatecache lines = fp.readlines() MemoryError So what we know is we encounter a MemoryError in trying to print the original traceback, so my guess is that was probably also due to a MemoryError. Does the list that fails have a large number of members compared to the other lists? Just two members on this list. MemoryError means the underlying Python interpreter got a denial on an attempt to allocate more memory (C's malloc() function). Is your web server enforcing some memory limit on CGI processes? Not that I know of... Thanks! -Brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a list
Christopher Adams wrote: I have full access to the installation on the server, and have always removed lists and archives from the command line on request. However, I have been thinking of giving list owners the opportunity to delete their own lists, but I don't want archives left behind. If owners can delete lists from the web interface, they have the option of deleting the archives or not. If you want to remove the option and force archive deletion, you'd have to modify Mailman/Cgi/rmlist.py do do this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Brian Cohen wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Does the list that fails have a large number of members compared to the other lists? Just two members on this list. I am puzzled. Is the size of the lists/listname/config.pck file for this list as small as or smaller than the others for lists that work? If you want to send me off list the config.pck file, I'll see what I can figure out, but first what does 'ls -l lists/listname/' show? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations
Helmut Schneider wrote: I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they also work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that the concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain an underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant. I don't know either, but it seems to be the only distinguishing characteristic of the lists that fail. If you look in Mailman's 'smtp' log, can you find any evidence that the notices were sent? You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the name and see if that fails too. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Mark Sapiro wrote: Brian Cohen wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Does the list that fails have a large number of members compared to the other lists? Just two members on this list. I am puzzled. Is the size of the lists/listname/config.pck file for this list as small as or smaller than the others for lists that work? Yes it's a few bytes smaller than a working list that has about 9 members. If you want to send me off list the config.pck file, I'll see what I can figure out, but first what does 'ls -l lists/listname/' show? drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Jul 14 12:00 . drwxrwsr-x 8 root list 4096 Jan 20 11:44 .. -rw-rw 1 root list 3324 Feb 19 2005 config.db -rw-rw 1 root list 3324 Feb 19 2005 config.db.last -rw-rw 1 list list 4280 Jul 14 12:00 config.pck -rw-rw 1 list list 4280 Jul 14 11:28 config.pck.last -rw-r--r-- 1 root list 189 Feb 19 2005 handle_opts.html -rw-rw 1 list list 133 Jul 7 04:08 pending.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 apache list 24 Jul 14 01:23 request.pck Thanks, -Brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a bug but no error in logs
Brian Cohen wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: If you want to send me off list the config.pck file, I'll see what I can figure out, but first what does 'ls -l lists/listname/' show? drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Jul 14 12:00 . drwxrwsr-x 8 root list 4096 Jan 20 11:44 .. -rw-rw 1 root list 3324 Feb 19 2005 config.db -rw-rw 1 root list 3324 Feb 19 2005 config.db.last -rw-rw 1 list list 4280 Jul 14 12:00 config.pck -rw-rw 1 list list 4280 Jul 14 11:28 config.pck.last -rw-r--r-- 1 root list 189 Feb 19 2005 handle_opts.html -rw-rw 1 list list 133 Jul 7 04:08 pending.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 apache list 24 Jul 14 01:23 request.pck The files config.db and config.db.last are left over from an old Mailman 2.0.x. When you upgraded to 2.1.x these were converted to the corresponding config.pck files. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your problem, but it is a good idea to remove the config.db files because there is a remote possibility that both config.pck files could become unusable and Mailman would automatically revert to the outdated config.db and reconvert it. If you want to send me the config.pck off list, I'll look at it and see what I can find. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Hello, When someone sends a request message to our Mailman server with the command lists it returns a list of mailing lists on the server -- even those lists that are set to private. We would like to either find out how to make sure private lists are not returned in the message or to disable the lists command entirely. How do we do that? Thanks. --Catherine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
On 7/14/06, Catherine Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When someone sends a request message to our Mailman server with the command lists it returns a list of mailing lists on the server -- even those lists that are set to private. We would like to either find out how to make sure private lists are not returned in the message or to disable the lists command entirely. How do we do that? See FAQ 4.24 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.024.htp If this doesn't do what you want, come back and I'll try to help more. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Catherine Maxwell sent the message below at 09:42 7/14/2006: Hello, When someone sends a request message to our Mailman server with the command lists it returns a list of mailing lists on the server -- even those lists that are set to private. We would like to either find out how to make sure private lists are not returned in the message or to disable the lists command entirely. How do we do that? End original message. - Hmm... that is kind of strange. I didn't think it is supposed to work like that but I decided to double-check on my installation to ensure I didn't have the same problem. (I have mailman 2.1.5 installed, I eventually need to update to 2.1.8, maybe this weekend). So when I sent the lists command to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it replied with the correct information for my server (only the two public lists and not the two private ones): The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Public mailing lists at crimson-dragon.com: 1. List name: Cuisine Description: An e-mail list for anyone interested in food Requests to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. List name: Mailman Description: Mailman site list Requests to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Unprocessed: end - Done. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] header/footer attachments
Christopher Adams wrote: I think you misunderstood me. I didn't mean that the header and/or footer was added to other attachments. It wasn't clear to me whether you thought that or not. Typically, what happens is that list subscribers attach a PDF or Word document, using Outlook or Groupwise mail. Which will normally result in Mailman receiving a message with MIME structure as follows: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html application/pdf (or application/msword) Mailman will add a footer to this as a separate part and the result will look like: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html application/pdf (or application/msword) text/plain (the footer) All the lists have a standard footer set by default. Many times they send in HTML format, even when they think they are sending in plain text, as that is what it appears like to them. In my experience with Outlook and based on information from previous list messages here, if a message with PDF or Word attachment is sent in plain text or HTML to a list with a footer set in Mailman, the message will come across with the document attached as well as a separate footer attachment. Essentially correct although I prefer the term 'MIME part' over 'attachment' If no document is attached, regardless of the mail format, the footer will appear in the message. However, yahoo mail handles it normally and Thunderbird includes a footer attachment, but also displays it. I guess I was surprised that I hadn't figured out that it depended on whether a document was attached. If the message is just text/plain, Mailman will normally add the footer to the end if the text/plain message and the result will be a simple text/plain message with the footer at the end. However if the message is for example multipart alternative with a structure like: multipart/alternative text/plain text/html Mailman will add the footer as follows: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html text/plain (the footer) i.e., it will create a multipart/mixed message with the original message as the first part and the footer as the next part. As you note above, how that looks when viewed with a particular MUA/email client depends on the users MUA settings and the MUAs own notions of how this structure should be rendered. So, I will put that one to rest. I also am wondering how much other mailman administrators and list owners make use of the built-in content filtering. As I understand it, if content filtering is activated and say, for example, text/plain is added to 'Remove message attachments that have a matching content type', any footer that is attached should be removed. And so will the text/plain message body! Also, content filtering can't remove Mailman's headers and footers because they haven't been added yet at content filtering time (see below for more). Again, based on the description of content-filtering, in the 'filter_action' option, This action is not taken if after filtering the message still contains content. In that case the message is always forwarded on to the list membership means that any message body would be delivered and only the attached footer would be dropped. No. If filtering removes all the content, there is no message left and nothing will be delivered. I think your confusion arises from the notion of 'attachment', which is an MUA notion, not a MIME notion. Filtering applies to MIME parts, not just 'attachments'. There is really no way to determine from the MIME structure of a message which part is the message 'body' and which parts are 'attachments'. There is no way in Mailman to filter out just those text/plain parts which are attachments from those which are the message body. Besides, this whole discussion is moot because headers and footers are added after content filtering is completed. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Dragon wrote: Catherine Maxwell sent the message below at 09:42 7/14/2006: Hello, When someone sends a request message to our Mailman server with the command lists it returns a list of mailing lists on the server -- even those lists that are set to private. We would like to either find out how to make sure private lists are not returned in the message or to disable the lists command entirely. How do we do that? End original message. - Hmm... that is kind of strange. I didn't think it is supposed to work like that but I decided to double-check on my installation to ensure I didn't have the same problem. (I have mailman 2.1.5 installed, I eventually need to update to 2.1.8, maybe this weekend). So when I sent the lists command to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it replied with the correct information for my server (only the two public lists and not the two private ones): Dragon is correct. The code hasn't changed since 2002 and it only reports 'advertised' lists with the one exception that if listx is unadvertised, we show it anyway if you sent the command to listx-request since you already are aware of that list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] implicit destination
I just cannot seem to get a workable solution to a problem I am having with Mailman. Although the list is set up to be unmoderated, I am still getting message to accept or deny a message from members. The reason is always the same: implicit destination. I have tried everything but nothing works. Can anyone steer me to an appropriate solution? John -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mail-gid for Postfix install
When installing mailman (using Postfix as the mail server), what should be the mail-gid option? I'm looking at the main.cf file for postfix and the setgid-group = postdrop So, does that mean that when I run the install for mailman, I should set the following option: --with-mail-gid=postdrop Is that correct? If not, where do I find out what the main-gid should be? Regards, Ki -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] implicit destination
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Dr. John Caccavale wrote: I just cannot seem to get a workable solution to a problem I am having with Mailman. Although the list is set up to be unmoderated, I am still getting message to accept or deny a message from members. The reason is always the same: implicit destination. I have tried everything but nothing works. FAQ 1.9 .. (it's usually because the list was BCC'd on the message) z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] implicit destination
Should the files in $prefix/cgi-bin be owned by root:mailman? Shouldn't it be mailman:mailman? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail-gid for Postfix install
Ki Song wrote: When installing mailman (using Postfix as the mail server), what should be the mail-gid option? I'm looking at the main.cf file for postfix and the setgid-group = postdrop So, does that mean that when I run the install for mailman, I should set the following option: --with-mail-gid=postdrop Is that correct? If not, where do I find out what the main-gid should be? This may or may not be correct. I believe that when postfix finds mailman aliases in an aliases.db file it will run the pipe as the user:group that owns the file. If you have configured Mailman/Postfix integration and the aliases are in data/aliases and data/aliases.db, the group of these files in normally 'mailman' so Mailman should be configured using --with-mail-gid=mailman (or the default). I'm not any kind of Postfix expert, so this behavior may depend on other Postfix configuration settings. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] file ownership - was: implicit destination
Ki Song wrote: Should the files in $prefix/cgi-bin be owned by root:mailman? Shouldn't it be mailman:mailman? It doesn't matter. Only the group is important. They must be SETGID and group 'mailman' (or whatever the mailman group is if not 'mailman'). And please don't start new threads by replying to old messages. It messes up threading in the archives and may cause your post to be ignored. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Thanks Mark, Patrick and Dragon. That is also the conclusion that I have arrived at. It is the listname-request list that was throwing us as to why it was appearing. Now through my testing of that issue I have come up with something else that is a puzzle. I have virtual hosting enabled and setup for 8 different domains in the mm_cfg.py. All lists are working well. For the sake of explanation, let's say there are four list hosting domains: domain1.com, domain2.com, domain3.com and domain4.com. If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the results for all advertised lists on domain1.com. If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the results for all advertised lists on domain1.com. If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the results for all advertised lists on domain1.com. If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the results for all advertised lists on domain1.com. My mm_cfg.py is set up as: add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'domain1.com') add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, 'domain1.com') add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'domain2.com') add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, 'domain2.com') and so on ... Apparently only giving the results for the first domain in the lineup. Is it supposed to be that way or is there something that I am missing that is making it so that the request is not being fulfilled for the other domains? --Catherine At 01:01 PM 7/14/2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: Dragon is correct. The code hasn't changed since 2002 and it only reports 'advertised' lists with the one exception that if listx is unadvertised, we show it anyway if you sent the command to listx-request since you already are aware of that list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists
I've setup mailman to the letter using the GNU Mailman Installation Manual (Release 2.1), and I have been getting this error message when trying to create a new list using: http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/create Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists I have configured the List creator's (authentication) password and entered it in the last field. Also, I have tried to manually create a list using a text interface by ssh'ing into the server, and that looks like it is working. The list has been created. But I can't see these lists under http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/admin or http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/listinfo What's going on? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] request not processing
I've sent a request email to an existing (I think) list on my mailman server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My postfix server log shows this: delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman however, I am not getting the help request that I asked for sent to the e-mail address that is requesting this information. What is happening? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Catherine Maxwell wrote:
Now through my testing of that issue I have come up with something
else that is a puzzle.
I have virtual hosting enabled and setup for 8 different domains in
the mm_cfg.py. All lists are working well. For the sake of
explanation, let's say there are four list hosting domains:
domain1.com, domain2.com, domain3.com and domain4.com.
If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the
results for all advertised lists on domain1.com.
If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the
results for all advertised lists on domain1.com.
If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the
results for all advertised lists on domain1.com.
If I send a lists request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get the
results for all advertised lists on domain1.com.
My mm_cfg.py is set up as:
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'domain1.com')
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, 'domain1.com')
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'domain2.com')
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, 'domain2.com')
and so on ...
There are a couple of issues.
First, your mm_cfg.py is all wrong.
If we assume that DEFAULT_URL_HOST is www.domain1.com and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST is domain1.com and you have similar domain naming
for domain2, etc. and the DEFAULT_*_HOST settings form configure are
correct in Defaults.py, what you need in defaults.py is:
add_virtualhost('www.domain2.com', 'domain2.com')
add_virtualhost('www.domain3.com', 'domain3.com')
etc.
What you have above gives you a VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary with at most
two entries (assuming DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are
different), both of which have values domainx.com where domainx is the
last one.
These entries are ultimately responsible for the values that get put in
the list attribute host_name and the (hidden from the GUI) attribute
web_page_url. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp.
You are going to have to correct mm_cfg.py, restart Mailman and run
fix_url with the appropriate --urlhost option on each list in order to
fix them. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp
and also run bin/fix_url.py for more information.
Now if VIRTUAL_HOSTS_OVERVIEW is on (the default), when you send a
'lists' command to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the advertised lists you are
going to see are those whose host_name attribute matches the host_name
attribute of the list to which you sent the command regardless of the
domain in the email address you sent the command to.
So when you send the 'lists' command to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
the lists you'll see are those whose host_name matches that of the
mailman list (domain1.com) regardless of which domainx.com you send it
to.
--
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] request not processing
Ki Song wrote: I've sent a request email to an existing (I think) list on my mailman server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My postfix server log shows this: delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman however, I am not getting the help request that I asked for sent to the e-mail address that is requesting this information. What is happening? Look in Mailman's 'smtp' log and determine if the response is being sent. If it is, look in your Postfix log to see what it did with it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: You are not authorized to create new mailinglists
Ki Song wrote: I've setup mailman to the letter using the GNU Mailman Installation Manual (Release 2.1), and I have been getting this error message when trying to create a new list using: http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/create Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists I have configured the List creator's (authentication) password and entered it in the last field. See my reply at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-July/052194.html. If you don't understand it, let's try to diagnose the specific problem rather than your starting over with a new install and winding up two days later with the same problem. Also, the information at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp about lost POST data due to a redirect may be relevant if you have redirects in your web browser. Also, I have tried to manually create a list using a text interface by ssh'ing into the server, and that looks like it is working. The list has been created. But I can't see these lists under http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/admin or http://mail.knifecenter.com/mailman/listinfo For this issue, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable lists display in email
Thanks Mark. I did as you instructed and all is as it should be. I really appreciate the help. --Catherine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List does not show on the overview page
On 7/14/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked that Privacy options...-Subscription rules-advertised is set to Yes? That was it. Thanks. -- James H. Edwards Network Systems Administrator Judicial Information Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] implicit destination
On 7/14/06, Ki Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should the files in $prefix/cgi-bin be owned by root:mailman? Shouldn't it be mailman:mailman? This depends on how you ran the configure script, if I understand correctly. Why was this question attached to a thread about Implicit Destination errors? -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lists stop working
I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothing in the logs to indicate why the lists stopped working. How does one go about debugging this sort of thing? Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothing in the logs to indicate why the lists stopped working. How does one go about debugging this sort of thing? Probably one or more of your qrunners stopped. At this point, you can look at Mailman's qrunner log and possibly see entries about runners stopping and being restarted until the limit is reached. If so, there will also be a small bit of information as to why (what signal or condition) caused the runner to stop. There may also be something in Mailman's 'error' log from the same time. If it happens again see items 5 - 8 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working
On Jul 14, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They
just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and
that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothing
in the logs to indicate why the lists stopped working.
How does one go about debugging this sort of thing?
Probably one or more of your qrunners stopped. At this point, you can
look at Mailman's qrunner log and possibly see entries about runners
stopping and being restarted until the limit is reached. If so, there
will also be a small bit of information as to why (what signal or
condition) caused the runner to stop.
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 (70376) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5860, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
[restarting]
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 (70376) Qrunner OutgoingRunner reached maximum
restart limit of 10, not restarting.
There may also be something in
Mailman's 'error' log from the same time.
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/
qrunner, line 270, in ?
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): main()
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/
qrunner, line 230, in main
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): qrunner.run()
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 87, in run
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): self._cleanup()
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 134, in _cleanup
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 132, in _cleanup
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): self._register_bounces()
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 120, in _register_bounces
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): mlist.registerBounce(addr,
msg, day=day)
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 131, in registerBounce
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y',
day + (0,)*6))
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): ValueError : day of year out of
range
If it happens again see items 5 - 8 at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?
req=showfile=faq03.014.htp.
I shall take a look.
thanks
Chad
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Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File /usr/local/mailman/
Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 131, in registerBounce
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y',
day + (0,)*6))
Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): ValueError : day of year out of
range
This is a known incompatibility between Mailman 2.1.5 (and below) and
python 2.4 and up. See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-March/043640.html
and
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=100103aid=1394696group_id=103.
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