[Mailman-Users] Converting mailman 2.0.3 to 2.1.5
Mailman users, We are about to convert from Mailman 2.0.3 on an AIX 5.1 server which we installed over 5 years ago to mailman 2.1.5 on a new RedHat server. The versions appear to be significantly different. I am guessing we can't simply copy over the list structure to the new mailman. What is the recommended approach for converting lists from 2.0.3 to 2.1.5? Should we: 1.create all the lists again from scratch 2. convert over the configurations 3. reload the subscribers. 4. send new passwords to the owners. Any suggestions on this? We have over a 100 to convert over so I don't want to make this any more painful than it already seems. Tim Tyler Network Engineer - Beloit College [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Converting mailman 2.0.3 to 2.1.5
At 7:37 AM -0600 12/6/06, Tim Tyler wrote: We are about to convert from Mailman 2.0.3 on an AIX 5.1 server which we installed over 5 years ago to mailman 2.1.5 on a new RedHat server. The versions appear to be significantly different. I am guessing we can't simply copy over the list structure to the new mailman. What is the recommended approach for converting lists from 2.0.3 to 2.1.5? Did you check the FAQ? Is there anything in FAQ 4.32 that you do not understand, or want clarification on? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] old mailserver interfering with new one??
Good morning. One of my clients has recently switched hosting companies, both of whom use Mailman. The new e-mail accounts seem to be working intermittently. When I looked into the old server's mailboxes, there seem to be stray messages in there that were sent after the hosting switch. Is it possible the old mailboxes are intercepting messages? I have attempted to contact our old host with no results so far. I can't make changes because they did not allow us access to the control panel to create and delete mailboxes or mailing lists. I'm suspecting something similar may be happening to the lists. I'd appreciate insight as to how the Mailman system works. Thanks -- Gretchen Ohmann Lady Weave Web Design P.O. Box 173 Benton Harbor, MI 49023-0173 269-369-1114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ladyweave.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] old mailserver interfering with new one??
Quoting Gretchen at Ladyweave.com | 269-369-1114 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One of my clients has recently switched hosting companies, both of whom use Mailman. The new e-mail accounts seem to be working intermittently. When I looked into the old server's mailboxes, there seem to be stray messages in there that were sent after the hosting switch. Is it possible the old mailboxes are intercepting messages? When you switch from one host to another, you have to update your DNS (Domain Name Service) records to point to the new site. However, DNS records have a TTL (time to live) which tells clients that they don't have to look up the record if they already looked it up less than TTL seconds ago. So they might still be seeing the old pointer instead of the new one for however long your TTL is set to (1 day is a very common TTL value). Additionally, some people insist on using Microsoft clients, and Microsoft thinks they're smarter than the creators of DNS records, so they ignore TTL and cache these things for longer than a day. But in a few days, it will all sort out and all the mail will be going to the new host. I recently switched IPs, and 90% of the traffic switched within a few hours, and all of it had changed in a day, but I have a strict NO USING OUTLOOK OR OUTLOOK EXPRESS rule on most of my mailing lists. Your mileage may vary. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.xcski.com/ By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry' ... -- Gary Larson, The Far Side -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate password reminders
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: All of the members of all of the lists on my site appear to be getting duplicate reminders. There is a single crontab entry for mailman calling mailpasswords. Is there some additional mechanism by which mailman might be calling mailpasswords? Not unless someone at your site created it. Are you sure there aren't two crontabs; one for the mailman user (/var/spool/cron/mailman or ??) and a system one in /etc/cron.d? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
I'm relatively new to Mailman but I've managed to build it from source and set up a few lists, with generous help from this list. While working through issues relating to creating a standard list configuration, I started to feel that there was a fundamental flaw in the way Mailman lists are configured that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Of course, this could be due me not knowing or understanding something, and, if so, I'll be happy to retract what I'm going to say below. Yesterday, I realized that I had made a mistake in how I had configured all my lists (I only have about 6 so far, so this is no great tragedy). This was entirely my fault, and not due to anything amiss in Mailman. So, using the web interface, I fixed the mistake on all 6 lists. This wasn't too bad, but it got me to thinking what I would have had to do if I had 1,000 lists. All of a sudden the thought hit me that would it be better if Mailman lists were designed kind of like classes in an object oriented programming language. There would be one super list which would be configured with all the standard values you want every list to have. Then, there would be lists derived from the super list, which would only need to be configured to have values different than the super list. There could even be lists derived from these lists, and so on down the line. With this design philosophy it would be very easy to make changes that effect multiple lists because the change would only have to be made in one place. I haven't thought it through but it might even be possible for this class-like design to include list membership making it easier to have one list contain other lists as members. Given that Mailman is written in Python, my naive impression would be that this should be relatively easy to implement. (As my old boss Mike Stonebraker used to say, it's just a simple matter of software). In reading the Mailman documentation I saw a mention of an umbrella list, but the only description here says umbrella lists are depreciated and will be replaced with a better mechanism for Mailman 3.0. Are umbrella lists somehow related to what I'm talking about? Am I completely out to lunch or does this make any sense? Cordially, -- Jon Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Resources Manager Civil and Environmental Engineering Dept. 305 Davis Hall Univ. of Calif., Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720-1710 510-642-0904 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
On 12/6/06, Jon Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm relatively new to Mailman but I've managed to build it from source and set up a few lists, with generous help from this list. While working through issues relating to creating a standard list configuration, I started to feel that there was a fundamental flaw in the way Mailman lists are configured that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Of course, this could be due me not knowing or understanding something, and, if so, I'll be happy to retract what I'm going to say below. Yesterday, I realized that I had made a mistake in how I had configured all my lists (I only have about 6 so far, so this is no great tragedy). This was entirely my fault, and not due to anything amiss in Mailman. So, using the web interface, I fixed the mistake on all 6 lists. This wasn't too bad, but it got me to thinking what I would have had to do if I had 1,000 lists. The command-line config_list and/or with_list tools have a slightly higher up-front cost (in terms of work required), but trivialize the cost-per-list for config updates, for the purpose of applying a single value across multiple lists. All of a sudden the thought hit me that would it be better if Mailman lists were designed kind of like classes in an object oriented programming language. There would be one super list which would be configured with all the standard values you want every list to have. Then, there would be lists derived from the super list, which would only need to be configured to have values different than the super list. There could even be lists derived from these lists, and so on down the line. Someone else can probably give a better analysis, but from my understanding, something like what you're suggesting would represent a significant departure from the current Mailman architecture, and this would constitute a fairly major rewrite. With this design philosophy it would be very easy to make changes that effect multiple lists because the change would only have to be made in one place. I haven't thought it through but it might even be possible for this class-like design to include list membership making it easier to have one list contain other lists as members. Given that Mailman is written in Python, my naive impression would be that this should be relatively easy to implement. (As my old boss Mike Stonebraker used to say, it's just a simple matter of software). In reading the Mailman documentation I saw a mention of an umbrella list, but the only description here says umbrella lists are depreciated and will be replaced with a better mechanism for Mailman 3.0. Are umbrella lists somehow related to what I'm talking about? Umbrella lists deal with lists that distribute their messages primarly to other lists, rather than users. So, no, they aren't really related. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] header intact
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
Patrick Bogen sent the message below at 08:39 12/6/2006: On 12/6/06, Jon Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm relatively new to Mailman but I've managed to build it from source and set up a few lists, with generous help from this list. While working through issues relating to creating a standard list configuration, I started to feel that there was a fundamental flaw in the way Mailman lists are configured that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Of course, this could be due me not knowing or understanding something, and, if so, I'll be happy to retract what I'm going to say below. Yesterday, I realized that I had made a mistake in how I had configured all my lists (I only have about 6 so far, so this is no great tragedy). This was entirely my fault, and not due to anything amiss in Mailman. So, using the web interface, I fixed the mistake on all 6 lists. This wasn't too bad, but it got me to thinking what I would have had to do if I had 1,000 lists. The command-line config_list and/or with_list tools have a slightly higher up-front cost (in terms of work required), but trivialize the cost-per-list for config updates, for the purpose of applying a single value across multiple lists. Pretty much true if you understand Python and this tool. It's pretty daunting if you do not. It sure would be nice to have some tools that don't require knowledge of how Python works to achieve a lot of common administrative tasks. It would also be very nice to have a full templating system to allow customizing all web pages and e-mail notifications. (Just one of the things I would really like to see, I don't have the Python skills to do it myself but I would be willing to help test it...) All of a sudden the thought hit me that would it be better if Mailman lists were designed kind of like classes in an object oriented programming language. There would be one super list which would be configured with all the standard values you want every list to have. Then, there would be lists derived from the super list, which would only need to be configured to have values different than the super list. There could even be lists derived from these lists, and so on down the line. Someone else can probably give a better analysis, but from my understanding, something like what you're suggesting would represent a significant departure from the current Mailman architecture, and this would constitute a fairly major rewrite. As far as I can discern from my limited perusing of source code, it would be a huge change in architecture. This would probably mean throwing out what exists now and restarting from scratch. I believe that it has been a stated goal to move list configuration to a real database system in future so this may well become a moot point if/when that happens. To be honest this is also probably a better topic of discussion for the developers list instead of for this list. With this design philosophy it would be very easy to make changes that effect multiple lists because the change would only have to be made in one place. I haven't thought it through but it might even be possible for this class-like design to include list membership making it easier to have one list contain other lists as members. Given that Mailman is written in Python, my naive impression would be that this should be relatively easy to implement. (As my old boss Mike Stonebraker used to say, it's just a simple matter of software). Your old boss obviously has no realistic grasp of the subject. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Dragon wrote: As far as I can discern from my limited perusing of source code, it would be a huge change in architecture. This is true. While a more detailed discussion of this topic belongs on the developers list, I will say that my plan is to improve the situation in MM2.2 by developing a 'styles' feature. It won't go as far as being object oriented with attribute inheritance, but it will allow you to group common attributes in a style, and then apply that style either when you create the list or after the fact. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRXb/RnEjvBPtnXfVAQJJRgP9HwRZKMM03JxD09jOqT6VWZWJNzGvP0/9 HeflKT45PejNmRI9r9T3+G8K8fRUn5Ih/byKP7pIRdgSlyKlUs9I9abybdB6KE/4 r89ectug8iYWriZksBf/Gwe9MqzQcMXN6sdJBuJgnlnyKgFjQlxUBl/ccHiAOztD kFbwZTWVDbc= =Nkl7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
At 10:39 AM -0600 12/6/06, Patrick Bogen wrote: The command-line config_list and/or with_list tools have a slightly higher up-front cost (in terms of work required), but trivialize the cost-per-list for config updates, for the purpose of applying a single value across multiple lists. Correct, insofar as it goes. However, these are command-line tools, and one of the things I'd like to see is a move to make it possible to do everything that can be done from the web interface, just as easily (if not more so) as you can do from the CLI. But that's a very long-term goal. Someone else can probably give a better analysis, but from my understanding, something like what you're suggesting would represent a significant departure from the current Mailman architecture, and this would constitute a fairly major rewrite. Yeah, that would be a huge rewrite. Now, Mailman3 will be a complete rewrite, and this kind of thing would be a perfectly valid subject to discuss on that list. Of course, no one knows when Mailman3 will arrive, so again this is a long-term issue. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
At 8:26 AM -0800 12/6/06, Jon Forrest wrote: Given that Mailman is written in Python, my naive impression would be that this should be relatively easy to implement. (As my old boss Mike Stonebraker used to say, it's just a simple matter of software). Unfortunately, there are people on this list who won't get that reference. I didn't get it the first few times I heard it. I had to have it explained to me. For those people, please understand that this is a particularly dry form of humor, and the word small is used in more a cosmological sense -- as in, anything that exists on this planet is necessarily small when compared to the size of the entire Universe. For more information, see http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/SMOP.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMOP. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion For Better Way of Doing List Configuration
At 8:59 AM -0800 12/6/06, Dragon wrote: Your old boss obviously has no realistic grasp of the subject. Don't jump to conclusions too quickly. See my other message first. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trend Micro has announced that they will cancel the stop.mail-abuse.org mail forwarding service as of 15 November 2006. If you have an old e-mail account for me at this domain, please make sure you correct that with the current address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate password reminders
On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: There is a single crontab entry for mailman calling mailpasswords. Is there some additional mechanism by which mailman might be calling mailpasswords? Not unless someone at your site created it. Are you sure there aren't two crontabs; one for the mailman user (/var/spool/cron/mailman or ??) and a system one in /etc/cron.d? That's it. I feel like an idiot. There is a /etc/cron.d/mailman which is identical to crontab -l -u mailman. This explains some other repetitions in logs. I installed the latter, so I guess the rpm (SuSE 10.0) installed the former. I should have thought to look there, but I forgot about /etc/cron.d Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] conversion
I could use some pointers in my conversion from Listproc to Mailman. I am also going from a Solaris machine to a Redhat Linux. I am very very new to Unix, Linux and could use some help in my conversion over to the new machine with Mailman. How exactly can I get my old Listproc Lists merged over to this new mailman machine. How does mailman get its address? What will happen to my old address of the old list when created with the new list? Can I keep them the same?? Pardon my ingnorance to any of those that are expert at this. I have managed to install Mailman on a Redhat box so far. But still have to go through the configuration. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't login mailman list admin web
Mark Sapiro wrote: Stanley Chen wrote: Recently we have sent out several mails to this list, and it's still running. What is still running? Is Mailman still sending to the MTA? However, we can't login to the admin webpage. After we input password, the page was loading as shown in the status bar, but after several minutes still can't show the admin page and finally it said page can't be loaded. Seems like the list may be locked. If so, and the lock is stale, you can manually remove the lock from Mailman's locks/ directory, but first be sure it isn't locked by some current process. Sounds to me like the server is just too busy for the web to respond before the browser time-out. I used to get this all the time on my 100K-500K member list sendings. If a message was still being sent/processed, the web site would not respond, or would respond very slowly. It is generally the case that servers consider other task, including smtp, a higher priority than http requests. This can cause http requests to time out if the server resources are otherwise occupied. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have four members on their list that look like this in the membership list: b http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages
I'm running Mailman 2.1.6 is there a script you can run to automatically remove all archive messages from a list? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problems with spam filter rules disappearing on a regular basis
Under spam filter rule 1 I have this, Subject: \*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*\* which is set to discard. However every so often (days or some weeks) the rule disappears and I have to re-add it. This seems to happen to a number of lists I have grep'd through the logs can find no obvious comments that someone has changed the settings or reason why these disappear, it does not happen to every list on the same dayseems more likely the lists are loosing settings on a regular though random basis (3~14 days or so), so a bug? The mailman version I have is, mailman-2.1.5.1-25.rhel3.7 regards Steven Jones Senior Linux/Unix/San System Administrator APG -Technology Integration Team Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 463 6272 Mobile: +64 27 563 6272 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help with umbrella lists
Hello, I have a newbie question... I was wondering if someone could help me with an issue I'm having. We're trying to set up an umbrella list (I think that's the term). For example, we have lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and so on... and [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s members are: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and so on... And all the lists allow non-members to post. But when we send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the admins and moderators for the child lists get an email saying they need to approve the post. I've scoured the admin interface options, but I can't seem to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can mailman pickup mail via pop3
Hi all, I was wondering if this was possible with mailman: I would like to be able to have mailman pickup incoming mail to the list via an external POP3 server (important) and submit it out to the list via an external SMTP server (not as important). If this can't work does anyone have any ideas on a good way to make mailman work when you don't have full control of the mail server? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with spam filter rules disappearing on a regular basis
--On December 7, 2006 9:09:13 AM +1300 Steven Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under spam filter rule 1 I have this, Subject: \*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*\* which is set to discard. However every so often (days or some weeks) the rule disappears and I have to re-add it. This seems to happen to a number of lists To which I reply: I can't remember for sure when this patch made it into the mainline code, but it sure sounds like what you're seeing: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_id=103atid=300103 -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with spam filter rules disappearing on a regular basis
Hi, This is an old bug...2004is there anyway to determine if the patch is in my version? regards Steven Jones Senior Linux/Unix/San System Administrator APG -Technology Integration Team Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 463 6272 Mobile: +64 27 563 6272 -Original Message- From: Steve Burling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2006 10:13 a.m. To: mailman-users@python.org Cc: Steven Jones Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with spam filter rules disappearing on a regular basis --On December 7, 2006 9:09:13 AM +1300 Steven Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under spam filter rule 1 I have this, Subject: \*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*\* which is set to discard. However every so often (days or some weeks) the rule disappears and I have to re-add it. This seems to happen to a number of lists To which I reply: I can't remember for sure when this patch made it into the mainline code, but it sure sounds like what you're seeing: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_ id=103atid=300103 -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can mailman pickup mail via pop3
On 12/6/06, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to be able to have mailman pickup incoming mail to the list via an external POP3 server (important) A program called 'fetchmail' can... fetch mail, from a POP3 server and deliver it using the local MTA. It's pretty easy to set up. and submit it out to the list via an external SMTP server (not as important). Mailman can do this natively. It's pretty trivial; you just change the SMTPHOST variable in your mm_cfg.py appropriately. Alternatively, you can set up the MTA on the mailman machine (FWIW, I recommend Postfix) to deliver via a smart host. This is also pretty easy to do. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with umbrella lists
On 12/6/06, Paul Choi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all the lists allow non-members to post. But when we send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the admins and moderators for the child lists get an email saying they need to approve the post. I've scoured the admin interface options, but I can't seem to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. Do you have access to the command line? If so, check the 'vette' log to find a reason for the message being held. The only setting I can think of that you might have overlooked is the require_explicit_destination setting, but I didn't think this held the message. That said, I'm not sure what action it triggers, so check it anyway. You might want to double-check and see if there's any spam filters set up. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
On 12/6/06, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have four members on their list that look like this in the membership list: b http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an illegal character in it? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filters disappearing....
It did it again So I got about 4 hours from adding a spam filter before it again disappears Is there anyway to check the rpm for the patch for the bug? Because if it is not there OK, I can chase RH, if it is there then the patch did not fix the issue/bug. :/ regards Steven Jones Senior Linux/Unix/San System Administrator APG -Technology Integration Team Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 463 6272 Mobile: +64 27 563 6272 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Limit on list names
Hi guys, Is there a limit to the length of a list name? We are using afwb-academic-staff.agwine but its barfing... Any ideas? regards, Kim -- Operating Systems, Services and Operations Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filters disappearing....
Steven Jones wrote: Is there anyway to check the rpm for the patch for the bug? Because if it is not there OK, I can chase RH, if it is there then the patch did not fix the issue/bug. You said you were running a 2.1.5 version. The fix was first released in 2.1.6. I believe Red Hat only backports security fixes and I doubt they consider this to be one. If you want to check, you could download the patch from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1020102group_id=103atid=300103 and look at your Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py and see if it looks like the patch is there. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
