[Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who are not subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread TRON478
hi,

i need the following scenario:

someone should be able to send to the list while he is not subscribed to the
list.

This seems to works, but the list admin must approve this. Is it possible
WITHOUT approval?

thank you
yavuz
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[Mailman-Users] my second problem: in the emails is my local hostname !?!?

2007-03-13 Thread TRON478
hi,

here is my second and i hope my last problem:

i get subscription mails which are like this one:


To post to this list, send your email to:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General information about the mailing list is at:

 http://xlistsrv.site/mailman/listinfo/test

If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
subscription page at:



You see the response address is my internet domainname, this is correct. But
the mailinglist admin site is my local hostname.

This is my mm_cfg file:

IMAGES_LOGOS = '/icons/'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.interactive-ip.eu'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.interactive-ip.eu'
MTA='Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.interactive-ip.eu']
add_virtualhost('lists.interactive-ip.eu', 'lists.interactive-ip.eu')

i think it seems to be correct, but something must be wrong. What could it
be? Can you help. Thank you

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Re: [Mailman-Users] my second problem: in the emails is my local hostname !?!?

2007-03-13 Thread Mike Brudenell
Greetings -

I fell into this problem too.  If memory serves it is because the  
DEFAULT_URL_HOST is used at *list creation* time to populate an entry  
its settings files.  Changing the DEFAULT_URL_HOST later only affects  
lists you create subsequently.

You need to run a script to fix up the URLs in the lists you have  
already created:

 bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname

To see the help text for the above run it directly, without the  
withlist:

 bin/fix_url.py

I think there was a second, related Gotcha that caught me too...  If  
your existing lists have archives then the pages already generated  
will have the wrong web server URL too.  (Check some of the links  
down at the bottom of their pages.)  If that's the case for you then  
you need to wipe and rebuild the HTML pages for each list's archives  
from its mbox file:

 bin/arch --wipe listname

I'd suggest trying each of the above on an unimportant or test list  
first to make sure I've got things right!

Cheers,
Mike B-)


On 13 Mar 2007, at 10:15, TRON478 wrote:

 i get subscription mails which are like this one:


 To post to this list, send your email to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 General information about the mailing list is at:

  http://xlistsrv.site/mailman/listinfo/test

 If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
 or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
 subscription page at:



 You see the response address is my internet domainname, this is  
 correct. But
 the mailinglist admin site is my local hostname.

 This is my mm_cfg file:

 IMAGES_LOGOS = '/icons/'
 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.interactive-ip.eu'
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.interactive-ip.eu'
 MTA='Postfix'
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.interactive-ip.eu']
 add_virtualhost('lists.interactive-ip.eu', 'lists.interactive-ip.eu')

 i think it seems to be correct, but something must be wrong. What  
 could it
 be? Can you help. Thank you

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who are not subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread Mike Brudenell
Greetings -

On 13 Mar 2007, at 10:09, TRON478 wrote:

 i need the following scenario:

 someone should be able to send to the list while he is not  
 subscribed to the
 list.

 This seems to works, but the list admin must approve this. Is it  
 possible
 WITHOUT approval?

If you want ALL non-members to be able to post to the list then  
change the setting which is currently telling Mailman to put messages  
from non-members on hold until they are approved:

Go to the list's management pages, then
-- Privacy Options
-- Sender filters
-- Change Action to take for postings from non-members for which no  
explicit action is defined. (Details for generic_nonmember_action)  
setting from Hold to Accept.

Then sit back and wait for spammers to find your list's address:  
their junk will then be immediately distributed to all the list's  
members.  :-}


Alternatively if you only want SOME non-members to be able to post to  
the list then, on the same page as above, put their e-mail addresses  
into the List of non-member addresses whose postings should be  
automatically accepted. (Details for accept_these_nonmembers) text  
box.  You can use regular expressions here if you wish.

...And just hope the spammers don't happen to forge messages to your  
list as being from one of these addresses.  :-}


Cheers,
Mike B-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 - Local customizations is beingignored

2007-03-13 Thread Henrik Rasmussen
Hi Mark

It seems that we had put the copy in /usr/lib/mailman/lists/mylist/da
instead of /var/lib/mailman/lists/mylist/da/ where the config.pck is.
Thanks.

Henrik 

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sendt: 12. marts 2007 18:32
Til: Henrik Rasmussen; Mailman Users
Emne: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 - Local customizations is
beingignored

Henrik Rasmussen wrote:

I've read*) that to avoid customize the original templates, it is
adviced to 

Create a directory lists/yourlist/en (assuming English :) and copy
  templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory.  Then edit this file 
  for your specific wording.  Mailman will use this specialized 
  template for the English welcome messages.


See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp
(which you might have found if you'd searched the FAQ for 'template'
instead of 'customize').


I assume this does not require a OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 


Correct.


However, even I copy the file templates/da/verify.txt to
lists/mylist/da/ (and check the directory and file permissions
according to the originals) and restart the mailman server using
mailmanctl restart, Mailman still uses the original template
templates/da/verify.txt

Do I have to change something in the Mailman configuration to use
customized templates?

No. The only requirement is that the template be in one of the places
discussed in the above referenced FAQ, and that it be readable by the
mailman group.

Is the lists/mylist/ directory the existing directory that contains
the list's config.pck file?

Is the lists/mylist/da/verify.txt file you created readable by the
mailman group (i.e. group mailman and group readable or world
readable)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who arenot subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
TRON478 wrote:

hmmm, ok you are right with the spammers :) but my customer wants to open
the list for everyone. but another question: is it possible to work with
wildcards or domains like

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
cuto.dom

so only acceptance is for the domains above?


Not wildcards, but regular expressions. You can put regular expressions
in accept_these_nonmembers. If an entry begins with ^, it is
interpreted as a case insensitive Python regular expression. See
http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/re-syntax.html for syntax
details. Your example would be something like

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or perhaps

^.*@(.*\.)?example\.com$

which would accept domains like example.com and mail.example.com but
not myexample.com.


by the way :)  has mailman an irc channel? ;)


See http://www.list.org/devs.html.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman accents in welcome message

2007-03-13 Thread Nuno Gonçalves
Hi all,
 
do you guys know where should we configure the accents in mailman messages ?
 
I would like to send a welcome message to new subscribers with accents, but
they apear with 

#224; codes like.

I am running mailman 2.1.8 in freebsd !

Is it related with the code language of the SO ? or is it configured in
mailman specifically ?

thank you all and

best regards,

nuno

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who are not subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread Mike Brudenell
Greetings -

On 13 Mar 2007, at 14:27, TRON478 wrote:

 hmmm, ok you are right with the spammers :) but my customer wants  
 to open the list for everyone. but another question: is it possible  
 to work with wildcards or domains like

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 or
 cuto.dom

 so only acceptance is for the domains above?

Well, as I said in my message...
 You can use regular expressions here if you wish.
:-)

If you click the (Details for accept_these_nonmembers) next to the  
text box you'll see a little additional help, which says:

 Postings from any of these non-members will be automatically
  accepted with no further moderation applied. Add member addresses
  one per line; start the line with a ^ character to designate a
  regular expression match.

Thus rather than using the limited glob-style pattern matching such as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
you instead use full regular expression pattern matching such as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If the local part of the sender addresses (the bit to the left of the  
@) follows a set pattern for all the customers who can send to the  
list then it might be possible to model that too.  For example, if  
the local part for each customer was of the form initals.surname  
then you might like to try something like:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and thus prevent postings from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (because joe doesn't  
match this format).

You will need to read up on the syntax used for these regular  
expressions.  For example . means any one character, whereas \.  
means the single character which really is a '.'

Cheers,
Mike B-)

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[Mailman-Users] subscribers

2007-03-13 Thread Melinda
I have not been able to find on the site, how to look up a subscriber by
their email address in mailman. Want to be able to see what lists they are
on?   I know you can look it up if you know one of the list they are on.
But what if you don't know any listname?   And pointers would be greatly
appreciated.

 

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] newlist mailman - python error

2007-03-13 Thread Ulrich Pöschl // p-consult.at
hello list,

after installing mailman on our server:

 Setting up mailman (2.1.5-8sarge5) ...
 Installing site language en  done.
 No updates are necessary.
 Site list for mailman (usually named mailman) missing
 Please create it; until then, mailman will refuse to start
 

I try creating the site list with the command newlist mailman and this
is what I get:

 webprojects:/etc# newlist mailman
 Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Initial mailman password:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 226, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 167, in main
 mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 457, in Create
 self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 296, in InitVars
 self.web_page_url = (
 TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
 webprojects:/etc# 

System is Debian Sarge:
 webprojects:/etc# uname -r
 2.6.9-023stab033.7-enterprise


Any ideas? Did I hit a bug? Because on the old system under Ubuntu
Server it worked like a charm. I am clueless :(

Thanks and kind regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman accents in welcome message

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Nuno Gonçalves wrote:
 
do you guys know where should we configure the accents in mailman messages ?
 
I would like to send a welcome message to new subscribers with accents, but
they apear with 

#224; codes like.


Your browser converts the accented characters to the #nnn; codes when
it submits the form data and Mailman makes no attempt to convert the
codes back.

You can use either bin/withlist or bin/config_list to set welcome_msg
to the desired text, but this is not a real solution because the next
time 'Submit Your Changes' on the General Options page is clicked, the
characters will revert to the #nnn; codes.

The real solution is to make a list/language specific version of the
subscribeack.txt template as discussed at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp.
Note that you can also make/edit a list specific version of this
template via the Edit the public HTML pages and text files link on
the admin pages, but this won't work for the same reason setting
welcome_msg doesn't work.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Melinda wrote:

I have not been able to find on the site, how to look up a subscriber by
their email address in mailman. Want to be able to see what lists they are
on?   I know you can look it up if you know one of the list they are on.
But what if you don't know any listname?   And pointers would be greatly
appreciated.


You use Mailman's command line tool bin/find_member. If you don't have
access to the command line tools, you can't do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newlist mailman - python error

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ulrich Pöschl // p-consult.at wrote:
 
 I try creating the site list with the command newlist mailman and this
 is what I get:
 
 webprojects:/etc# newlist mailman
 Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Initial mailman password:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 226, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 167, in main
 mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 457, in Create
 self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 296, in InitVars
 self.web_page_url = (
 TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
 webprojects:/etc# 


It looks like you have set DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN in mm_cfg.py and you have 
an extraneous '%' in addition to the '%s' for the host name.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who are not subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread John
I also would like to allow non-subscribers to send to a closed list, but I would
like auto-approve based on a custom header... Anyone modified Mailman for that?

Thanks,
John

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can i make a list public so people who arenot subcribed can send a message?

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
John wrote:

I also would like to allow non-subscribers to send to a closed list, but I 
would
like auto-approve based on a custom header... Anyone modified Mailman for that?


This has been discussed on this list before in various forms. Two
examples are
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052759.html
and
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-May/051378.html.

What you do is implement a custom handler per
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.067.htp.
This handler needs to recognize the header and set the 'approved' flag
in the message metadata.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newlist mailman - python error

2007-03-13 Thread Ulrich Pöschl
Mark Sapiro schrieb:
 Ulrich Pöschl // p-consult.at wrote:

 I try creating the site list with the command newlist mailman and this
 is what I get:

 webprojects:/etc# newlist mailman
 Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Initial mailman password:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 226, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/sbin/newlist, line 167, in main
 mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 457, in Create
 self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
   File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 296, in InitVars
 self.web_page_url = (
 TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
 webprojects:/etc# 
 
 
 It looks like you have set DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN in mm_cfg.py and you have
 an extraneous '%' in addition to the '%s' for the host name.
 


thanks a lot! your hint pointed me in the right direction. problem solved.

other question:

is it possible to use one mailman instance on a single server for two
different subdomains like

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

it wouldn't be too bad if the two hosts see eachosters lists, but
mailman should be able to send/receive on both subdomains..

any good starting-point in the docs? or any good howtos on that?

thanks again, and kind regards from Vienna,

Ulrich
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual hosts [was: newlist mailman - python error]

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ulrich Pöschl wrote:

thanks a lot! your hint pointed me in the right direction. problem solved.

other question:

is it possible to use one mailman instance on a single server for two
different subdomains like

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

it wouldn't be too bad if the two hosts see eachosters lists, but
mailman should be able to send/receive on both subdomains..

any good starting-point in the docs? or any good howtos on that?


Standard Mailman supports multiple virtual hosts from a single instance
with the restriction that all list names must be unique across all
hosts. This restriction is planned to be removed for Mailman 2.2 and
there are various patches available for Mailman 2.1 which may or may
not work. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp.

If you can live with the unique list name restriction, the Mailman part
of virtual hosting is simple. In mm_cfg.py, just put add_virtualhost()
directives for the additional host(s), e.g.

add_virtualhost('www2.example.com', 'lists2.example.com')

Then web created lists will be created with the proper web and mail
host names based on the host name of the URL that accessed the create
page. bin/newlist has options for specifying domains other than
DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.

Lists will only be shown on the overview page for the accessing host
unless you set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off.

Of course, you have to set up the virtual domains in the web server and
in the incoming MTA so that the web server invokes the mailman CGIs
for Mailman URLs for all the hosts and the MTA properly delivers list
mail for any host to Mailman. These latter things are specific to your
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual hosts [was: newlist mailman - python error]

2007-03-13 Thread Ulrich Pöschl
Mark Sapiro schrieb:

 Standard Mailman supports multiple virtual hosts from a single instance
 with the restriction that all list names must be unique across all
 hosts. This restriction is planned to be removed for Mailman 2.2 and
 there are various patches available for Mailman 2.1 which may or may
 not work. See
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp.
 
 If you can live with the unique list name restriction, the Mailman part
 of virtual hosting is simple. In mm_cfg.py, just put add_virtualhost()
 directives for the additional host(s), e.g.
 
 add_virtualhost('www2.example.com', 'lists2.example.com')
 
 Then web created lists will be created with the proper web and mail
 host names based on the host name of the URL that accessed the create
 page. bin/newlist has options for specifying domains other than
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.
 
 Lists will only be shown on the overview page for the accessing host
 unless you set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off.
 
 Of course, you have to set up the virtual domains in the web server and
 in the incoming MTA so that the web server invokes the mailman CGIs
 for Mailman URLs for all the hosts and the MTA properly delivers list
 mail for any host to Mailman. These latter things are specific to your
 web server, MTA and virtual hosting setup.
 

heya. I'm astonished. it works like a charm.

i've tested running another instance from a different apache vhost and I
found it out myself in the meantime. I can live with the mentioned
restrictions very well...

thank you very much!

ciao,

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[Mailman-Users] mailman lighttpd cgi-bin weirdness

2007-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl

(this is a resend, since my last post was probably discarded due to a digital 
signature)

I've been almost successful with my installation of mailman
with lighttpd and postfix (yay, I guess) on Debian 4.0, but for the following
gotcha:

http://postbiota.org/mailman/admin
has links with cgi-bin in them, e.g. 
http://postbiota.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/tt
which 404 with my current configuration.
I have a somewhat frankensteinian /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
which hopefully you can help me to debug:

server.modules  = (
mod_access,
mod_alias,
mod_accesslog,
mod_rewrite,
mod_cgi,
)

...

alias.url += (
   /mailman/ = /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/,
/pipermail/ = /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/,
/images/mailman/ = /usr/share/images/mailman/,
)

cgi.assign = (
/admin = ,
/admin/ = ,
/admindb = ,
/admindb/ = ,
/confirm = ,
/confirm/ = ,
/create = ,
/create/ = ,
/edithtml = ,
/edithtml/ = ,
/listinfo = ,
/listinfo/ = ,
/options = ,
/options/ = ,
/private = ,
/private/ = ,
/rmlist = ,
/rmlist/ = ,
/roster = ,
/roster/ = ,
/subscribe = ,
/subscribe/ = 
)

url.rewrite = ( ^/$ = /Mailman/listinfo,
^/Mailman/$ = /Mailman/listinfo )

See anything funny? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman lighttpd cgi-bin weirdness

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Eugen Leitl wrote:

(this is a resend, since my last post was probably discarded due to a digital 
signature)


A signature shouldn't cause a post to be discarded on this list.


http://postbiota.org/mailman/admin
has links with cgi-bin in them, e.g. 
http://postbiota.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/tt
which 404 with my current configuration.
I have a somewhat frankensteinian /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
which hopefully you can help me to debug:


It seems to me the only issue is the extraneous cgi-bin/ in the links.
This is there because at the time the lists were created, there was

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/'

in mm_cfg.py. This should be just the default value

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

as set in Defaults.py. Once this is fixed, you need to run fix_url to
fix the lists themselves. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.069.htp.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman lighttpd cgi-bin weirdness

2007-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl

I've been almost successful with my installation of mailman
with lighttpd and postfix (yay, I guess) on Debian 4.0, but for the following
gotcha:

http://postbiota.org/mailman/admin
has links with cgi-bin in them, e.g. 
http://postbiota.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/tt
which 404 with my current configuration.
I have a somewhat frankensteinian /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
which hopefully you can help me to debug:

server.modules  = (
mod_access,
mod_alias,
mod_accesslog,
mod_rewrite,
mod_cgi,
)

...

alias.url += (
   /mailman/ = /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/,
/pipermail/ = /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/,
/images/mailman/ = /usr/share/images/mailman/,
)

cgi.assign = (
/admin = ,
/admin/ = ,
/admindb = ,
/admindb/ = ,
/confirm = ,
/confirm/ = ,
/create = ,
/create/ = ,
/edithtml = ,
/edithtml/ = ,
/listinfo = ,
/listinfo/ = ,
/options = ,
/options/ = ,
/private = ,
/private/ = ,
/rmlist = ,
/rmlist/ = ,
/roster = ,
/roster/ = ,
/subscribe = ,
/subscribe/ = 
)

url.rewrite = ( ^/$ = /Mailman/listinfo,
^/Mailman/$ = /Mailman/listinfo )

See anything funny? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman lighttpd cgi-bin weirdness

2007-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:59:18PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 A signature shouldn't cause a post to be discarded on this list.

You're correct. I was too hasty in hitting resend.

 It seems to me the only issue is the extraneous cgi-bin/ in the links.
 This is there because at the time the lists were created, there was
 
 DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/'
 
 in mm_cfg.py. This should be just the default value
 
 DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
 
 as set in Defaults.py. Once this is fixed, you need to run fix_url to
 fix the lists themselves. See
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.069.htp.

Perfect. That did the trick, and the solution arrived within minutes.
Thanks a lot!

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[Mailman-Users] hello genaliases

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo U. Navarro
Hello
I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..

but when I put  /bin/genaliases..

I can't  generarte..
Could anyone  help me...


thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:

I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..


Do you have 

MTA = 'Postfix'

in mm_cfg.py?


but when I put  /bin/genaliases..

I can't  generarte..


What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
response?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo U. Navarro
Mark Sapiro escribió:
 Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:

   
 I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..
 


 Do you have 

 MTA = 'Postfix'

 in mm_cfg.py?


   

not because I use local domain and not virtual domain
these is part of my file mm_cfg.py


#-
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
# automatically recognizes newly created lists.
# (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.{EXIM,...})
# MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist

#-
# Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to
# read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.POSTFIX first.
# MTA='Postfix'

# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg, 
but you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in 
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.



 but when I put  /bin/genaliases..

 I can't  generarte..
 


 What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
 response?

   

## lista de distribuci?n mailman
mailman: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman



Could you help me...
thanks

gus
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Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:

Mark Sapiro escribió:
 Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:

   
 I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..
 


 Do you have 

 MTA = 'Postfix'

 in mm_cfg.py?


   

not because I use local domain and not virtual domain
these is part of my file mm_cfg.py


You still need MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py if you want Mailman to
generate and maintain the data/aliases* files for Postfix.


#-
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
# automatically recognizes newly created lists.
# (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.{EXIM,...})
# MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist

#-
# Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to
# read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.POSTFIX first.
# MTA='Postfix'

# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg, 
but you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in 
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.


I don't know what brain dead packager put those comments in mm_cfg.py,
but that comment is just wrong. If you want Mailman to generate
aliases for Postfix, you need MTA = 'Postfix' whether or not you are
using virtual domains. See
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html. You need to do the
things discussed in sec 6.1.1 in any case. If you are using Postfix
virtual domains, you also need the things discussed in section 6.1.2.

You may also find the comments in Defaults.py regarding MTA and
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS to be of interest.


 but when I put  /bin/genaliases..

 I can't  generarte..
 


 What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
 response?

   

## lista de distribuci?n mailman
mailman: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman


Because you have not overridden the default MTA = 'Manual', genaliases
just prints the aliases for you to deal with manually.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping messages with null subjects sent to list

2007-03-13 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there a recipe to put in the spam filters that will trap a totally
 empty subject line in a message?   This get posted to a list with 
 (no subject) in the subject line, but this is evidently added after
 the spam filter check.  
 
 
 Try the following regexp in header_filter_rules with a Hold action
 
 ^subject:\s*(\(no subject\))?\s*$
 
I put that line in the spam filter (actually, copied and pasted it).

I'm still seeing the first post with a null subject line blasting
through without getting trapped.  It shows up as (no subject) when
distributed by the list, but isn't trapped until it's gone out to the
list (too late).

All the responses, of course, get trapped by the preexisting trap.

I did try
subject:\n

But that traps a bunch of mangled subject lines where the user's MUA
has munged the original to add spaces.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping messages with null subjects sent to list

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there a recipe to put in the spam filters that will trap a totally
 empty subject line in a message?   This get posted to a list with 
 (no subject) in the subject line, but this is evidently added after
 the spam filter check.  
 
 
 Try the following regexp in header_filter_rules with a Hold action
 
 ^subject:\s*(\(no subject\))?\s*$
 
I put that line in the spam filter (actually, copied and pasted it).

I'm still seeing the first post with a null subject line blasting
through without getting trapped.  It shows up as (no subject) when
distributed by the list, but isn't trapped until it's gone out to the
list (too late).

All the responses, of course, get trapped by the preexisting trap.

I did try
subject:\n

But that traps a bunch of mangled subject lines where the user's MUA
has munged the original to add spaces.


The original regexp in header_filter_rules should catch any subject
header consisting only of white space and zero or one occurrences of
'(no subject)'.

I think the issue may be that the incoming post has no Subject: header
at all rather than an empty one. In this event, if there is a
subject_prefix, Mailman will add a Subject: header with the list
prefix and '(no subject)'. If there is no subject_prefix, the message
will be sent from Mailman with no Subject: header.

If that is the issue, you need 3 header_filter_rules. The first is as
above to catch the empty or (no subject). The second is with a regexp
of

^subject:

and an action of accept to accept the remaining messages with Subject:
headers, and the third has a regexp

^.

and an action of hold to hold all messages that fall through the second.

If you have other header_filter_rules, they should come before the
accept rule (#2) or they won't be reached.

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[Mailman-Users] new server

2007-03-13 Thread Cheryl Faye Schwartz
Is it possible to migrate the archives from Mailman on one server to another 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new server

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cheryl Faye Schwartz wrote:

Is it possible to migrate the archives from Mailman on one server to another 
server?


Yes. The most direct way is to just move the
archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file from the old server
to the new and then build the archives on the new server with
bin/arch. If there are archives on both servers, just combine the
listname.mbox files.

It's a good idea to at least check the .mbox file with bin/cleanarch
before running bin/arch. Use the --help options on both commands for
more info.

You can also move the list (settings, membership, member options) by
moving the lists/listname/config.pck file.

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