Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem
Thanks for your help, but problem still persists: i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): /opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l correu.txt correu.txt: --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) -- we greatly appreciate your help :) Mark Sapiro escribió: Jesús Oliván wrote: We've got this mailman version in a production environment and users that are not suscribed to a list cannot publish any message and the worst fact is that sender cannot know if his message has been sended, cause From address doesn't exist. Is there any modification we can do (some code inside a function) to patch this little bug? The workaround is rev 984 at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/changes. The patch is also attached to this message. === modified file 'Mailman/Message.py' --- Mailman/Message.py2006-03-06 18:21:52 + +++ Mailman/Message.py2007-06-29 21:24:32 + @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# Copyright (C) 1998-2006 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. +# Copyright (C) 1998-2007 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License @@ -127,6 +127,10 @@ fieldval = self[h] if not fieldval: continue +# Work around bug in email 2.5.8 (and ?) involving getaddresses() +# from multi-line header values. Note that cset='us-ascii' is OK +# since the address itself can't be RFC 2047 encoded. +fieldval = Utils.oneline(fieldval, 'us-ascii') addrs = email.Utils.getaddresses([fieldval]) try: realname, address = addrs[0] @@ -180,6 +184,10 @@ else: fieldvals = self.get_all(h) if fieldvals: +# See comment above in get_sender() regarding +# getaddresses() and multi-line headers +fieldvals = [Utils.oneline(fv, 'us-ascii') + for fv in fieldvals] pairs.extend(email.Utils.getaddresses(fieldvals)) authors = [] for pair in pairs: -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jesus.olivan%40uab.es Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Address Privacy Alert Message
Hi, Is it possible to configure mailman so that it does not send the Privacy Alert Message to subscribers whose address have been previously subscribed to the list and are therefore detected as duplicates? Than you very much, Best regards -- Fernando Sánchez Documentación [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- XL internet Trapería, 32 · 30001- Murcia Tels. 968 355 322 www.xli.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
To find your alias files and ownerships: ls -lhd `find / -name aliases` On Fri, July 13, 2007 9:08 am, Paul wrote: That is strange that your /etc/aliases is owned by mailman. Dunno what is going on there. Something looks awry there. The soft link I made to the target: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 29 Jul 12 00:15 /etc/mailman/aliases - /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases On Fri, July 13, 2007 6:48 am, Hydro John wrote: Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config info... but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the /etc/aliases.db file being empty: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali* -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul 1 18:19 aliases.db [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali* -rw-rw 1 rootmailman 4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks, j Paul-239 wrote: Check to see if the soft links are there. I just went through the rmlist command yesterday and gave up and did it manually. I should have paid more attention to the obvious errors. I found that my legacy soft links were not in /etc/mailmain. I've migrated my data so many times through different OS's, that I messed that up. I think it would work now if I had to. On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote: I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no errors--- I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the problem was. Any suggestions??? -john Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11571691 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40nabble.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11577087 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELPPPPPPPP !!!
well, thanks for your reply guys.. however it's been like reading chinese.. I didn't understand a thing except that this could be godaddy's SMTP relay thingy .. so I sent them a support request and asked them to fix it or else :P ah by the way, the daily limit is it 100,000 not 1,000 for I requested the daily limit to be increased and sent them info on my list and they agreed.. thanks again guys .. I'll let u know what godaddy will have to say about this .. see ya Ivan Van Laningham wrote: Hi All-- It doesn't have much to do with GoDaddy, unless the OP typoed 1,000 when he wrote 100,000 ;-) Assuming the limit is indeed 100,000, then this is a qmail problem. Qmail needs to be tuned. I don't remember the exact figures I used, but the default settings are teeny and need to be raised. Google qmail limits and you should find what to change. Log locations on a dedicated server aren't in standard places. Here's a few (sorry for the wrap): /usr/local/psa/var/log/maillog (Qmail log) /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat (View the amount of messages currently in your outbound queue) /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread (List out all messages in your outbound queue) find /var/qmail/queue -name | xargs cat | less (Read the entire contents of an email, including headers, where is the ~8 digit ID specified on the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread command) Between the logs and tuning qmail, the OP should get massively better throughput with few delays (and the ones that are left are due entirely to GoDaddy, not qmail). I've never used cpanel, but Plesk isn't bad for what it does. It's just figuring out what it does that's the hard part. Metta, Ivan Michael Kabot wrote: Also being a GoDaddy Dedicated Server customer, I would say it may have NOTHING to do with Mailman... You don't really have your own SMTP server at GoDaddy - you go through their SMTP relay. I have found that on some days email goes out instantly, on others it gets delayed for hours. Also, if you are a new GoDaddy customer you probably have a watch filter set on your account to verify you are not spamming - this may slow things down too. I would check your logs and see when emails are sent to the SMTP relay, this will tell you how Mailman is doing. Delivery time is not an accurate reflection of what Mailman is/isn't doing. What server admin application are you using: Cpanel or Plesk? You also may want to check your mail queue to see if anything is stuck there. Mike | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf | Of Jeff Shepherd | Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:02 PM | To: balligho | Cc: mailman-users@python.org | Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HEL !!! | | You may want to check how the mailing list was setup. If it was | setup to use digests, then depending on the digest that was setup, it | may be an hourly, daily, weekly, or monthly digest. Meaning that X | number of users are delivered the message at the intervals that I | mentioned. | | You can check this under the Digest Options in the Admin panel of | the list. | | Page 11 of the Admin Manual explains the Digest option in greater | detail that, more than likely, explains it better than I just did. | | -Jeff | | | On Jul 12, 2007, at 6:29 PM, balligho wrote: | | | hello all.. | | after warmn wlecomes I would like to say : PLEASE HELP ! | | I have purchased a dedicated server from godaddy.com, celeron 2000 | 1 GB Ram | bla bla bla .. I bought this server to host my mailing list on | which has | over 45,000 subscribers which should be no problem because I'm | allowed to | send 100,000 messages per day .. only me post a small daily | newsletter to | the members.. | | well they kinda automatically install the mailman mailing list | manager using | the server's control panel, after installing, configuration, | uploading | members, all is well.. then I post to the list .. I have added like | 5 or 6 | test email accounts @yahoo and @gmail and @hotmail n others to test | if | mailman will deliver to these addresses or not .. | | now I'm completely blind.. the damn thing has n kind of | status | report, delivery queue... etc nothing !!! I have checked all the test | account and didn't find my message except in 1 of them .. yet I keep | recieving some messages to my administrator email that mailman caught | bounces it couldn't resolve so I figured out it's still sending .. | | my question is: DOES MAILMAN TAKE OVER A DAY TO SEND TO 45,000 | PEOPLE ON A | SERVER WITH ULTRA HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION?? I used to send | the daily | newsletter using a small script I did in microsoft outlook to | automatically | compose messages and send them n it didn't take over 5 hours each | day on my | stupid computer with bad internet connection .. and how
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
That is strange that your /etc/aliases is owned by mailman. Dunno what is going on there. Something looks awry there. The soft link I made to the target: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 29 Jul 12 00:15 /etc/mailman/aliases - /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases On Fri, July 13, 2007 6:48 am, Hydro John wrote: Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config info... but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the /etc/aliases.db file being empty: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali* -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul 1 18:19 aliases.db [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali* -rw-rw 1 rootmailman 4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks, j Paul-239 wrote: Check to see if the soft links are there. I just went through the rmlist command yesterday and gave up and did it manually. I should have paid more attention to the obvious errors. I found that my legacy soft links were not in /etc/mailmain. I've migrated my data so many times through different OS's, that I messed that up. I think it would work now if I had to. On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote: I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no errors--- I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the problem was. Any suggestions??? -john Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11571691 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40nabble.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11577087 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must be that the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks like the one) that the service should be using... Just a side note. I started python from the command line, and tried to 'from Mailman import *' and there is no module named Mailman (or) mailman... that seems to me like it could be a problem?! Recently I did a yum install of python-mysql, I wonder if that's related??? I feel like perhaps I should start over with the mailman installation :s -j Paul-239 wrote: To find your alias files and ownerships: ls -lhd `find / -name aliases` -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11580215 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config info... but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the /etc/aliases.db file being empty: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali* -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul 1 18:19 aliases.db [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali* -rw-rw 1 rootmailman 4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks, j Paul-239 wrote: Check to see if the soft links are there. I just went through the rmlist command yesterday and gave up and did it manually. I should have paid more attention to the obvious errors. I found that my legacy soft links were not in /etc/mailmain. I've migrated my data so many times through different OS's, that I messed that up. I think it would work now if I had to. On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote: I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no errors--- I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the problem was. Any suggestions??? -john Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11571691 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/unix%40bikesn4x4s.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40nabble.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error---can%27t-open-aliases.db-tf4071765.html#a11577087 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] different attachment for different email
Hello, I need to sent messages su 150-300 emails. But I need to attach a different attatchment for a different email. The attatchments differ, it can be any file with any extention (e.g. doc, xls, txt, jpg). I imagine, that attatchments should be attatched from some kind of foldels for eatch email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] takes attatchment from hehe folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] takes attatchments from xoxo folder and so on... Any ideas, working solutions? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem
Jesús Oliván wrote: Thanks for your help, but problem still persists: I assume you installed the patch. i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); The address in the mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which doesn't match this pattern. /opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l correu.txt And what happens when you post the message? correu.txt: --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) -- -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Address Privacy Alert Message
Fernando Sánchez - XL internet wrote: Is it possible to configure mailman so that it does not send the Privacy Alert Message to subscribers whose address have been previously subscribed to the list and are therefore detected as duplicates? This message is sent if the roster is not public for the reason indicated in the message. The only configuration setting that affects this is the Privacy options...-Subscription rules-private_roster setting. So, the only way to configure (as opposed to patch) Mailman to not send this is to make the roster public. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] different attachment for different email
Donatas wrote: I need to sent messages su 150-300 emails. But I need to attach a different attatchment for a different email. The attatchments differ, it can be any file with any extention (e.g. doc, xls, txt, jpg). Mailman is not the tool for this. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.037.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem
Yes, patch is installed. Sorry, pattern was [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we own uab.es too. When message is sent, we receive this response: El missatge adjunt ha estat automàticament descartat. Asunto: De: test12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Agente de usuario:: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) Mark Sapiro escribió: Jesús Oliván wrote: Thanks for your help, but problem still persists: I assume you installed the patch. i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); The address in the mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which doesn't match this pattern. /opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l correu.txt And what happens when you post the message? correu.txt: --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
Hydro John wrote: Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must be that the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks like the one) that the service should be using... In a normal installation with Mailman/Postfix integration enabled via MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py, the Mailman aliases are in Mailman's data/ directory. It seems that you are manually putting Mailman aliases in /etc/aliases and making the group of /etc/aliases* 'mailman' to get around group mismatch errors. This should be OK, but why Postfix doesn't like/find /etc/aliases.db is a Postfix question, not a Mailman question. Just a side note. I started python from the command line, and tried to 'from Mailman import *' and there is no module named Mailman (or) mailman... that seems to me like it could be a problem?! This is normal. Try Mailman's bin/withlist -i command or try import sys sys.path.append('/path/to/~mailman/') or cd to ~mailman before starting Python before trying to import from Mailman. I.e., Mailman has to be in Python's search path and it isn't if you just start Python in an arbitrary directory. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db
Hydro John wrote: Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must be that the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks like the one) that the service should be using... It sounds like you're using a Red Hat or Fedora packaged mailman. In those distros, mailman is patched to try and put the files in locations more in line with the FHS (for distro consistency and SELinux integration). This can be confusing if you're following the standard mailman docs or asking for help here. You can see a mapping of the standard locations to the changed locations in the INSTALL.REDHAT file. That way you can translate the advice you'll get here into what you need for your system. For the benefit of others, that file is available in the Fedora cvs tree here: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/*checkout*/rpms/mailman/F-7/mailman.INSTALL.REDHAT.in -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Many questions are unanswerable. Many answers are questionable. pgpDGQL0VY08r.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] user administration
Anyone know how I can edit ALL the users in a given list, to change one option for all or most of the users at one time? Without using shell. Paul Wilson Stay Gold! www.freaksincorporated.com www.choppertownnation.net www.grimmskateboards.com www.phatchoppers.com www.allamericancycles.net www.tinakite.com www.denisehawkins.com www.3leggeddawg.com www.itsnotlevel.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem
Jesús Oliván wrote: Yes, patch is installed. Sorry, pattern was [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we own uab.es too. When message is sent, we receive this response: El missatge adjunt ha estat automàticament descartat. Asunto: De: test12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789- [EMAIL PROTECTED] So it appears that with the patch installed, Mailman is properly unfolding and decoding the the folded RFC 2047 encoded From: header in the post. Fecha: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I find it very curious that this 'forwarded post' seems to be missing the Date:, From:, Subject and To: headers from the original post and the User-Agent: header has been changed to 'Agente de usuario::'. What happens if you attempt to post a message with simply From: test [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the RFC 2047 encoded and folded From: header? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] user administration
Paul, The only way I have found is through the command line utilities, specifically the withlist command. There are some good examples of code to pass to withlist if you do a Google search. Mike | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf | Of Paul Wilson | Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:30 PM | To: Mailman-Users@python.org | Subject: [Mailman-Users] user administration | | Anyone know how I can edit ALL the users in a given list, to change one | option for all or most of the users at one time? Without using shell. | | Paul Wilson | Stay Gold! | | www.freaksincorporated.com | www.choppertownnation.net | www.grimmskateboards.com | www.phatchoppers.com | www.allamericancycles.net | www.tinakite.com | www.denisehawkins.com | www.3leggeddawg.com | www.itsnotlevel.com | -- | Mailman-Users mailing list | Mailman-Users@python.org | http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users | Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py | Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- | users%40python.org/ | Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- | users/mkabot%40soarol.com | | Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- | mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] user administration
On 7/13/07, Paul Wilson wrote: Anyone know how I can edit ALL the users in a given list, to change one option for all or most of the users at one time? Without using shell. See FAQ 1.32 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.032.htp. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains
Hi I've configured mailman with my postfix server, i use mailman on 2 virtual hosts I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the same name on these 2 different domains for ex [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, in fact, create the first with: $newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the second with : $newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] But at this step, i get an error: List already exists: mylist Is it possible ? if yes how ? Thanks Enzo _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains
Enzo wrote: I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the same name on these 2 different domains snip Is it possible ? if yes how ? This is a limitation with current Mailman. This limitation will be removed in a future release, but for now, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp for some links to 3rd party patches. Note also that that FAQ refers to Mailman 2.2 as the version for removal of this limitation. There has since been a renumbering of planned versions so the target for this is now called 3.0. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Re : same list name on 2 different domains
arg I use mailman 2.1.5 from debian sarge, is there a simple patch to make real virtual domain possible ? - Message d'origine De : Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Enzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Envoyé le : Vendredi, 13 Juillet 2007, 21h24mn 42s Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains Enzo wrote: I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the same name on these 2 different domains snip Is it possible ? if yes how ? This is a limitation with current Mailman. This limitation will be removed in a future release, but for now, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp for some links to 3rd party patches. Note also that that FAQ refers to Mailman 2.2 as the version for removal of this limitation. There has since been a renumbering of planned versions so the target for this is now called 3.0. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman with remote smtp
I had sent an email to this list sometime ago with a question about using Mailman with a remote smtp server. I have managed to make this work with the following setup: webserver.foo.com is the Mailman webserver where lists are hosted and smtp.foo.com is the mailserver. Both machines have sendmail running on them. I have created a mail alias on smtp.foo.com for every list hosted on webserver.foo.com. fetchmail runs on webserver.foo.com and pops email from these accounts on smtp.foo.com and these mails are then posted to the lists based on aliases defined in /etc/alias on webserver.foo.com The problem is that this method is no at all scalable and portable. Is there a better way of doing this ? I am using a remote smtp server due to security issues. I do not want to open any ports on the webserver. However fetchmail requires running sendmail in daemon mode ( listening at port 25). Is there a good security solution if I decide to run an smtp server and the mailman webserver on the same machine ? Thanks Meenal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Re : same list name on 2 different domains
On 7/13/07, Enzo wrote: I use mailman 2.1.5 from debian sarge, is there a simple patch to make real virtual domain possible ? What do you mean simple patch? The patch that Mark linked to is about as simple as these things get, at least as far as it comes to applying a patch. Do you mean, is there a Debian Sarge package that will automate all this for you? I have no idea -- you should talk to your Debian Sarge buddies. Or the maintainer of the Debian package for Mailman. We support Mailman and not specific OSes, so there's not much we can do to help you with OS-specific questions. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman with remote smtp
On 7/13/07, Meenal Pant wrote: webserver.foo.com is the Mailman webserver where lists are hosted and smtp.foo.com is the mailserver. Both machines have sendmail running on them. I have created a mail alias on smtp.foo.com for every list hosted on webserver.foo.com. A simpler way to set this up would be to use a different hostname for the mailing lists, and externally you advertise in the DNS that mail for this machine is handled on smtp.example.com. However, internally in the mail server configuration, you set it up to automatically forward everything it gets for lists.example.com over to webserver.example.com. This way you don't have to keep creating aliases on smtp.example.com for the various different mailing lists, but you still keep the same functionality. fetchmail runs on webserver.foo.com and pops email from these accounts on smtp.foo.com and these mails are then posted to the lists based on aliases defined in /etc/alias on webserver.foo.com You don't really need fetchmail in this process, although you can make it work -- obviously. The problem is that this method is no at all scalable and portable. Is there a better way of doing this ? Any time you talk about splitting these functions up, you're going to have some more work to do to maintain the whole system. However, one of the key ways to achieve higher scalability is precisely to split the functions up across multiple machines, so everything depends on *how* you split things up. I am using a remote smtp server due to security issues. What security issues? I do not want to open any ports on the webserver. Well, you're going to have a pretty hard time running a web server if you don't have any ports open. However fetchmail requires running sendmail in daemon mode ( listening at port 25). If that's true, then it's only needed on the localhost interface (IPv4 address 127.0.0.1). You can set things up so that it ignores all the other ports, and fetchmail should be fine passing things off to the copy that can only accept connections from the local machine. IMO, fetchmail should be able to be set up so that it can use a command-line instance of sendmail that doesn't require any ports to be opened. Of course, as I explained above, you shouldn't need fetchmail at all. Is there a good security solution if I decide to run an smtp server and the mailman webserver on the same machine ? What do you mean good security solution? This is the preferred method of setting up Mailman, and most sites run it this way. What problem do you have with that? -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp