Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem

2007-07-13 Thread Jesús Oliván
Thanks for your help, but problem still persists:

i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not 
suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders 
pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l  correu.txt

correu.txt:

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Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1])
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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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we greatly appreciate your help :)

Mark Sapiro escribió:
 Jesús Oliván wrote:

   
 We've got this mailman version in a production environment and users 
 that are not suscribed to a list cannot publish any message and the 
 worst fact is that sender cannot know if his message has been sended, 
 cause From address doesn't exist. Is there any modification we can do 
 (some code inside a function) to patch this little bug?
 


 The workaround is rev 984 at
 http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/changes.

 The patch is also attached to this message.

   
 

 === modified file 'Mailman/Message.py'
 --- Mailman/Message.py2006-03-06 18:21:52 +
 +++ Mailman/Message.py2007-06-29 21:24:32 +
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -# Copyright (C) 1998-2006 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 +# Copyright (C) 1998-2007 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
  #
  # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
  # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
 @@ -127,6 +127,10 @@
  fieldval = self[h]
  if not fieldval:
  continue
 +# Work around bug in email 2.5.8 (and ?) involving getaddresses()
 +# from multi-line header values.  Note that cset='us-ascii' is OK
 +# since the address itself can't be RFC 2047 encoded.
 +fieldval = Utils.oneline(fieldval, 'us-ascii')
  addrs = email.Utils.getaddresses([fieldval])
  try:
  realname, address = addrs[0]
 @@ -180,6 +184,10 @@
  else:
  fieldvals = self.get_all(h)
  if fieldvals:
 +# See comment above in get_sender() regarding
 +# getaddresses() and multi-line headers
 +fieldvals = [Utils.oneline(fv, 'us-ascii')
 + for fv in fieldvals]
  pairs.extend(email.Utils.getaddresses(fieldvals))
  authors = []
  for pair in pairs:

   
 

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[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Address Privacy Alert Message

2007-07-13 Thread Fernando Sánchez - XL internet
Hi,

Is it possible to configure mailman so that it does not send the Privacy Alert 
Message to subscribers whose address have been previously subscribed to the 
list  and are therefore detected as duplicates?

Than you very much,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Paul
To find your alias files and ownerships:

ls -lhd `find / -name aliases`


On Fri, July 13, 2007 9:08 am, Paul wrote:
 That is strange that your /etc/aliases is owned by mailman.  Dunno what is
 going on there.  Something looks awry there.

 The soft link I made to the target:

 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root mailman   29 Jul 12 00:15 /etc/mailman/aliases -
 /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases


 On Fri, July 13, 2007 6:48 am, Hydro John wrote:

 Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config
 info...
 but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is
 definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the
 /etc/aliases.db file being empty:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali*
 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases
 -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak
 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul  1 18:19 aliases.db
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali*
 -rw-rw 1 rootmailman  4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases
 -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db

 Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks,
 j




 Paul-239 wrote:
 Check to see if the soft links are there.  I just went through the
 rmlist
 command yesterday and gave up and did it manually.  I should have paid
 more attention to the obvious errors.  I found that my legacy soft
 links
 were not in /etc/mailmain.  I've migrated my data so many times through
 different OS's, that I messed that up.  I think it would work now if I
 had
 to.
 On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote:
 I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no
 errors---
 I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the
 problem
 was. Any suggestions???
 -john
 Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database
 /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning:
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELPPPPPPPP !!!

2007-07-13 Thread balligho


well, thanks for your reply guys.. however it's been like reading chinese..
I didn't understand a thing except that this could be godaddy's SMTP relay
thingy .. so I sent them a support request and asked them to fix it or else
:P

ah by the way, the daily limit is it 100,000 not 1,000 for I requested the
daily limit to be increased and sent them info on my list and they agreed.. 

thanks again guys .. I'll let u know what godaddy will have to say about
this ..

see ya 



Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
 
 Hi All--
 It doesn't have much to do with GoDaddy, unless the OP typoed 1,000 when 
 he wrote 100,000 ;-)  Assuming the limit is indeed 100,000, then this is 
 a qmail problem.
 
 Qmail needs to be tuned.  I don't remember the exact figures I used, but 
 the default settings are teeny and need to be raised.  Google qmail 
 limits and you should find what to change.
 
 Log locations on a dedicated server aren't in standard places.  Here's a 
 few (sorry for the wrap):
 
 /usr/local/psa/var/log/maillog (Qmail log)
 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat (View the amount of messages currently in 
 your outbound queue)
 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread (List out all messages in your outbound queue)
 find /var/qmail/queue -name  | xargs cat | less (Read the entire 
 contents of an email, including headers, where  is the ~8 digit ID 
 specified on the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread command)
 
 Between the logs and tuning qmail, the OP should get massively better 
 throughput with few delays (and the ones that are left are due entirely 
 to GoDaddy, not qmail).
 
 I've never used cpanel, but Plesk isn't bad for what it does.  It's just 
 figuring out what it does that's the hard part.
 
 Metta,
 Ivan
 
 
 Michael Kabot wrote:
 Also being a GoDaddy Dedicated Server customer, I would say it may have
 NOTHING to do with Mailman...
 
 You don't really have your own SMTP server at GoDaddy - you go through
 their
 SMTP relay.  I have found that on some days email goes out instantly, on
 others it gets delayed for hours.  Also, if you are a new GoDaddy
 customer
 you probably have a watch filter set on your account to verify you are
 not
 spamming - this may slow things down too.
 
 I would check your logs and see when emails are sent to the SMTP relay,
 this
 will tell you how Mailman is doing.  Delivery time is not an accurate
 reflection of what Mailman is/isn't doing.
 
 What server admin application are you using: Cpanel or Plesk?  You also
 may
 want to check your mail queue to see if anything is stuck there.
 
 Mike
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 | Of Jeff Shepherd
 | Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:02 PM
 | To: balligho
 | Cc: mailman-users@python.org
 | Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HEL !!!
 | 
 | You may want to check how the mailing list was setup.  If it was
 | setup to use digests, then depending on the digest that was setup, it
 | may be an hourly, daily, weekly, or monthly digest.  Meaning that X
 | number of users are delivered the message at the intervals that I
 | mentioned.
 | 
 | You can check this under the Digest Options in the Admin panel of
 | the list.
 | 
 | Page 11 of the Admin Manual explains the Digest option in greater
 | detail that, more than likely, explains it better than I just did.
 | 
 | -Jeff
 | 
 | 
 | On Jul 12, 2007, at 6:29 PM, balligho wrote:
 | 
 | 
 |  hello all..
 | 
 |  after warmn wlecomes I would like to say : PLEASE HELP !
 | 
 |  I have purchased a dedicated server from godaddy.com, celeron 2000
 |  1 GB Ram
 |  bla bla bla .. I bought this server to host my mailing list on
 |  which has
 |  over 45,000 subscribers which should be no problem because I'm
 |  allowed to
 |  send 100,000 messages per day .. only me post a small daily
 |  newsletter to
 |  the members..
 | 
 |  well they kinda automatically install the mailman mailing list
 |  manager using
 |  the server's control panel, after installing, configuration,
 | uploading
 |  members, all is well.. then I post to the list .. I have added like
 |  5 or 6
 |  test email accounts @yahoo and @gmail and @hotmail n others to test
 | if
 |  mailman will deliver to these addresses or not ..
 | 
 |  now I'm completely blind.. the damn thing has n kind of
 | status
 |  report, delivery queue... etc nothing !!! I have checked all the test
 |  account and didn't find my message except in 1 of them .. yet I keep
 |  recieving some messages to my administrator email that mailman caught
 |  bounces it couldn't resolve so I figured out it's still sending ..
 | 
 |  my question is: DOES MAILMAN TAKE OVER A DAY TO SEND TO 45,000
 |  PEOPLE  ON A
 |  SERVER WITH ULTRA HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION?? I used to send
 |  the daily
 |  newsletter using a small script I did in microsoft outlook to
 |  automatically
 |  compose messages and send them n it didn't take over 5 hours each
 |  day on my
 |  stupid computer with bad internet connection .. and how 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Paul
That is strange that your /etc/aliases is owned by mailman.  Dunno what is
going on there.  Something looks awry there.

The soft link I made to the target:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root mailman   29 Jul 12 00:15 /etc/mailman/aliases -
/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases


On Fri, July 13, 2007 6:48 am, Hydro John wrote:

 Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config info...
 but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is
definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the
/etc/aliases.db file being empty:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali*
 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases
 -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak
 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul  1 18:19 aliases.db
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali*
 -rw-rw 1 rootmailman  4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db

 Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks,
 j




 Paul-239 wrote:
 Check to see if the soft links are there.  I just went through the rmlist
 command yesterday and gave up and did it manually.  I should have paid
more attention to the obvious errors.  I found that my legacy soft
links
 were not in /etc/mailmain.  I've migrated my data so many times through
different OS's, that I messed that up.  I think it would work now if I
had
 to.
 On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote:
 I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no
 errors---
 I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the
 problem
 was. Any suggestions???
 -john
 Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database
 /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning:
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Hydro John

Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must be that
the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks like the one)
that the service should be using... 

Just a side note. I started python from the command line, and tried to 'from
Mailman import *' and there is no module named Mailman (or) mailman... that
seems to me like it could be a problem?! Recently I did a yum install of
python-mysql, I wonder if that's related??? I feel like perhaps I should
start over with the mailman installation :s

-j



Paul-239 wrote:
 
 To find your alias files and ownerships:
 
 ls -lhd `find / -name aliases`
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Hydro John

Sorry, I set this up so long ago, I don't remember the basic config info...
but I don't see any links? And the aliases file in /etc/aliases is
definitely different from /etc/mailman/aliases... not to mention the
/etc/aliases.db file being empty: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la ali*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1512 Mar 23 09:54 aliases
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot2914 Mar 23 09:53 aliases.bak
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman0 Jul  1 18:19 aliases.db
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -la /etc/mailman/ali*
-rw-rw 1 rootmailman  4218 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 12288 May 15 14:50 /etc/mailman/aliases.db

Would you mind providing just a bit more info?? Thanks,
j 




Paul-239 wrote:
 
 Check to see if the soft links are there.  I just went through the rmlist
 command yesterday and gave up and did it manually.  I should have paid
 more attention to the obvious errors.  I found that my legacy soft links
 were not in /etc/mailmain.  I've migrated my data so many times through
 different OS's, that I messed that up.  I think it would work now if I had
 to.
 
 
 On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:34 pm, Hydro John wrote:

 I get the following error, but I've run check_perms -f and I have no
 errors---

 I recall this happening once before, but I cannot recall what the
 problem
 was. Any suggestions???

 -john


 Jul 13 03:05:25 niflheim postfix/smtpd[20268]: fatal: open database
 /etc/aliases.db: Bad file descriptor
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning: process
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 20268 exit status 1
 Jul 13 03:05:26 niflheim postfix/master[12748]: warning:
 /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling

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[Mailman-Users] different attachment for different email

2007-07-13 Thread Donatas

Hello,

I need to sent messages su 150-300 emails. But I need to attach a different
attatchment for a different email. The attatchments differ, it can be any
file with any extention (e.g. doc, xls, txt, jpg).

I imagine, that attatchments should be attatched from some kind of foldels
for eatch email.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] takes attatchment from hehe folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] takes attatchments from xoxo folder
and so on...

Any ideas, working solutions?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jesús Oliván wrote:

Thanks for your help, but problem still persists:


I assume you installed the patch.


i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not 
suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders 
pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);


The address in the mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which doesn't match this
pattern.


/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l  correu.txt


And what happens when you post the message?


correu.txt:

---

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1])
 by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built
 Jan  6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed,
 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1])
 by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built
 Jan  6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es
 (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan  6 2005))
 with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604)





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Address Privacy Alert Message

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fernando Sánchez - XL internet wrote:

Is it possible to configure mailman so that it does not send the Privacy Alert 
Message to subscribers whose address have been previously subscribed to the 
list  and are therefore detected as duplicates?


This message is sent if the roster is not public for the reason
indicated in the message. The only configuration setting that affects
this is the Privacy options...-Subscription rules-private_roster
setting.

So, the only way to configure (as opposed to patch) Mailman to not send
this is to make the roster public.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] different attachment for different email

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Donatas wrote:

I need to sent messages su 150-300 emails. But I need to attach a different
attatchment for a different email. The attatchments differ, it can be any
file with any extention (e.g. doc, xls, txt, jpg).


Mailman is not the tool for this. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.037.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem

2007-07-13 Thread Jesús Oliván
Yes, patch is installed.

Sorry, pattern was [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we own uab.es too.

When message is sent, we receive this response:

El missatge adjunt ha estat automàticament descartat.




Asunto:

De:
test12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha:
Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200

Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Return-path:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received:
from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System 
Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST)
Received:
from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1]) by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System 
Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTP id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 
04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST)
Received:
from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging 
Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan 6 2005)) with ESMTPS id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 
04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version:
1.0
Content-type:
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding:
7bit
Agente de usuario::
Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604)







Mark Sapiro escribió:
 Jesús Oliván wrote:

   
 Thanks for your help, but problem still persists:
 


 I assume you installed the patch.


   
 i'm trying to send a test mail from cmd line, with a from that's not 
 suscribed to list prova-rest-l but it's included in authorized senders 
 pattern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
 


 The address in the mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which doesn't match this
 pattern.


   
 /opt/mailman/mail/mailman post prova-rest-l  correu.txt
 


 And what happens when you post the message?


   
 correu.txt:

 ---

 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1])
 by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built
 Jan  6 2005)) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed,
 04 Jul 2007 13:57:09 +0200 (CEST)
 Received: from tvenezia.uab.es ([127.0.0.1])
 by tvenezia.uab.es (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built
 Jan  6 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:08 +0200 (CEST)
 Received: from [158.109.164.123] by tvenezia.uab.es
 (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.10 (built Jan  6 2005))
 with ESMTPS id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST)
 Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200
 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?test12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16789-12345=E16?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?789-12345=E16789-?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-version: 1.0
 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604)


 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hydro John wrote:


Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must be that
the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks like the one)
that the service should be using... 


In a normal installation with Mailman/Postfix integration enabled via

MTA = 'Postfix'

in mm_cfg.py, the Mailman aliases are in Mailman's data/ directory. It
seems that you are manually putting Mailman aliases in /etc/aliases
and making the group of /etc/aliases* 'mailman' to get around group
mismatch errors. This should be OK, but why Postfix doesn't like/find
/etc/aliases.db is a Postfix question, not a Mailman question.



Just a side note. I started python from the command line, and tried to 'from
Mailman import *' and there is no module named Mailman (or) mailman... that
seems to me like it could be a problem?!


This is normal. Try Mailman's

 bin/withlist -i

command or try

 import sys
 sys.path.append('/path/to/~mailman/')

or cd to ~mailman before starting Python before trying to import from
Mailman.

I.e., Mailman has to be in Python's search path and it isn't if you
just start Python in an arbitrary directory.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error - can't open aliases.db

2007-07-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hydro John wrote:
 Frustraiting! No aliases file in /var/lib/mailman/data/... it must
 be that the file in /etc/mailmain/ is the one (or at least it looks
 like the one) that the service should be using... 

It sounds like you're using a Red Hat or Fedora packaged mailman.  In
those distros, mailman is patched to try and put the files in
locations more in line with the FHS (for distro consistency and
SELinux integration).  This can be confusing if you're following the
standard mailman docs or asking for help here.

You can see a mapping of the standard locations to the changed
locations in the INSTALL.REDHAT file.  That way you can translate
the advice you'll get here into what you need for your system.

For the benefit of others, that file is available in the Fedora cvs
tree here:

http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/*checkout*/rpms/mailman/F-7/mailman.INSTALL.REDHAT.in

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[Mailman-Users] user administration

2007-07-13 Thread Paul Wilson
Anyone know how I can edit ALL the users in a given list, to change one 
option for all or most of the users at one time? Without using shell.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] rare problem

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jesús Oliván wrote:

Yes, patch is installed.

Sorry, pattern was [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we own uab.es too.

When message is sent, we receive this response:

El missatge adjunt ha estat automàticament descartat.




Asunto:

De:
test12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789-12345á6789- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


So it appears that with the patch installed, Mailman is properly
unfolding and decoding the the folded RFC 2047 encoded From: header in
the post.


Fecha:
Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:57:02 +0200

Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


However, I find it very curious that this 'forwarded post' seems to be
missing the Date:, From:, Subject and To: headers from the original
post and the User-Agent: header has been changed to 'Agente de
usuario::'.



What happens if you attempt to post a message with simply

From: test [EMAIL PROTECTED]

instead of the RFC 2047 encoded and folded From: header?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] user administration

2007-07-13 Thread Michael Kabot
Paul,

The only way I have found is through the command line utilities,
specifically the withlist command.

There are some good examples of code to pass to withlist if you do a Google
search.

Mike

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Re: [Mailman-Users] user administration

2007-07-13 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/13/07, Paul Wilson wrote:

  Anyone know how I can edit ALL the users in a given list, to change one
  option for all or most of the users at one time? Without using shell.

See FAQ 1.32 at 
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[Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-13 Thread Enzo
Hi

I've configured mailman with my postfix server, i use mailman on 2 virtual hosts

I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the 
same name on these 2 different domains

for ex [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I, in fact, create the first with: $newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and the second with : $newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But at this step, i get an error:
List already exists: mylist

Is it possible ? if yes how ?

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Enzo wrote:

I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the 
same name on these 2 different domains

snip

Is it possible ? if yes how ?


This is a limitation with current Mailman. This limitation will be
removed in a future release, but for now, see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp
for some links to 3rd party patches.

Note also that that FAQ refers to Mailman 2.2 as the version for
removal of this limitation. There has since been a renumbering of
planned versions so the target for this is now called 3.0.

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[Mailman-Users] Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-13 Thread Enzo
arg

I use mailman 2.1.5 from debian sarge, is there a simple patch to make real 
virtual domain possible ?



- Message d'origine 
De : Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : Enzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org
Envoyé le : Vendredi, 13 Juillet 2007, 21h24mn 42s
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] same list name on 2 different domains

Enzo wrote:

I can create list on both domains, but i can't create the same list with the 
same name on these 2 different domains

snip

Is it possible ? if yes how ?


This is a limitation with current Mailman. This limitation will be
removed in a future release, but for now, see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp
for some links to 3rd party patches.

Note also that that FAQ refers to Mailman 2.2 as the version for
removal of this limitation. There has since been a renumbering of
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman with remote smtp

2007-07-13 Thread Meenal Pant
I had sent an email to this list sometime ago with a question about
using Mailman with a remote smtp server. I have managed to make this
work with the following setup:
webserver.foo.com is the Mailman webserver where lists are hosted and
smtp.foo.com is the mailserver. Both machines have sendmail running on
them. I have created a mail alias on smtp.foo.com  for every list hosted
on webserver.foo.com. fetchmail runs on webserver.foo.com and pops email
from these accounts on smtp.foo.com and these mails are then posted to
the lists based on aliases defined in /etc/alias on webserver.foo.com

The problem is that this method is no at all scalable and portable.  Is
there a  better way of doing this ?

I am using a remote smtp server due to security issues. I do not want to
open any ports on the webserver. However fetchmail requires running
sendmail in daemon mode ( listening at port 25).  Is there a good
security solution if I decide to run an smtp server and the mailman
webserver on the same machine ?

Thanks
Meenal


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[Mailman-Users] Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-13 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/13/07, Enzo wrote:

  I use mailman 2.1.5 from debian sarge, is there a simple patch to make
  real virtual domain possible ?

What do you mean simple patch?  The patch that Mark linked to is 
about as simple as these things get, at least as far as it comes to 
applying a patch.

Do you mean, is there a Debian Sarge package that will automate all 
this for you?  I have no idea -- you should talk to your Debian Sarge 
buddies.  Or the maintainer of the Debian package for Mailman.


We support Mailman and not specific OSes, so there's not much we can 
do to help you with OS-specific questions.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman with remote smtp

2007-07-13 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/13/07, Meenal Pant wrote:

  webserver.foo.com is the Mailman webserver where lists are hosted and
  smtp.foo.com is the mailserver. Both machines have sendmail running on
  them. I have created a mail alias on smtp.foo.com  for every list hosted
  on webserver.foo.com.

A simpler way to set this up would be to use a different hostname for 
the mailing lists, and externally you advertise in the DNS that mail 
for this machine is handled on smtp.example.com.  However, internally 
in the mail server configuration, you set it up to automatically 
forward everything it gets for lists.example.com over to 
webserver.example.com.  This way you don't have to keep creating 
aliases on smtp.example.com for the various different mailing lists, 
but you still keep the same functionality.

 fetchmail runs on webserver.foo.com and pops email
  from these accounts on smtp.foo.com and these mails are then posted to
  the lists based on aliases defined in /etc/alias on webserver.foo.com

You don't really need fetchmail in this process, although you can 
make it work -- obviously.

  The problem is that this method is no at all scalable and portable.  Is
  there a  better way of doing this ?

Any time you talk about splitting these functions up, you're going to 
have some more work to do to maintain the whole system.

However, one of the key ways to achieve higher scalability is 
precisely to split the functions up across multiple machines, so 
everything depends on *how* you split things up.

  I am using a remote smtp server due to security issues.

What security issues?

   I do not want to
  open any ports on the webserver.

Well, you're going to have a pretty hard time running a web server if 
you don't have any ports open.

However fetchmail requires running
  sendmail in daemon mode ( listening at port 25).

If that's true, then it's only needed on the localhost interface 
(IPv4 address 127.0.0.1).  You can set things up so that it ignores 
all the other ports, and fetchmail should be fine passing things off 
to the copy that can only accept connections from the local machine.

IMO, fetchmail should be able to be set up so that it can use a 
command-line instance of sendmail that doesn't require any ports to 
be opened.

Of course, as I explained above, you shouldn't need fetchmail at all.

Is there a good
  security solution if I decide to run an smtp server and the mailman
  webserver on the same machine ?

What do you mean good security solution?  This is the preferred 
method of setting up Mailman, and most sites run it this way.  What 
problem do you have with that?

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