Re: [Mailman-Users] ImportError: No module named ldap

[Mike Rosile]

Hey Mark I just wanted to thank you for all your help, and give you a
progress update on the situation.  I downloaded an attempted to compile
python-ldap using Ubuntu's OpenLDAP development libs and had no luck.

I then proceeded to download OpenLDAP and compiled it from source.  I
was then able to compile python-ldap without any problem.  I have yet to
actually install the OpenLDAP package that I compiled from source, along
with python-ldap, but hopefully I will soon.  I'll let you know the out
come when I'm finished!

Thanks again!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Controlling (name and) address change of listmembers?

[Mark Sapiro]

Jost Krieger wrote:
>
>One of our list owners tries to keep tabs on his list members for a
>somewhat sensitive list. Everyone has to send some info when
>subscribing.
>
>Now he notices anyone can change his address (and/or name) without the
>list owner even being informed.


The trunk was changed a while back to log address changes and to notify
the list owner based on admin_notify_mchanges. I will port this change
to the 2.1 branch for Mailman 2.1.10.

Changes of name only result in no logging or notice.

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[Mailman-Users] Controlling (name and) address change of list members?

[Jost Krieger]

One of our list owners tries to keep tabs on his list members for a
somewhat sensitive list. Everyone has to send some info when
subscribing.

Now he notices anyone can change his address (and/or name) without the
list owner even being informed.

Or is this an effect of still running 2.1.6?

Jost
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[Mark Sapiro]

Mike Peachey wrote:
>
>When a post is received that is held for moderation, an e-mail is sent 
>to list-owner, but when that is sent back into mailman for forwarding, 
>mailman treats the message as if it was going onto the list


This is the problem. Exim is piping mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to "| /path/to/mail/mailman/ post listname" and it should be piped to
"| /path/to/mail/mailman/ owner listname".


>and holds it 
>(because of the included message that was originally help). This then 
>generates another moderation e-mail which is sent to list-owner which is 
>then held and so on.
>
>I'm not sure if there is a fundamental failure in my understanding of 
>the system of if there's something I've not thought about, but I cannot 
>get it to work properly.


It is an exim configuration problem.


>I've seen a lot of documentation suggesting that every list should have 
>10 aliases in the Exim aliases file for piping into mailman, and -owner 
>is included in these, however I think I am right in saying that that 
>doesn't apply in this situation because I have configured the Exim 
>transport/router as directed to pipe all mail into mailman that hasn't 
>been caught by aliases instead.


Exim is normally configured with a router and transport for Mailman so
aliases are not needed, but the router and transport have to be
correctly configured.

See

for pointers to exim's documentation on setting this up.

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[Mike Peachey]

I am having trouble with held posts for the lists I run at Jennic.

We've recently set up Mailman to run in conjunction with Exim and it's 
working very well (withlist -r is invaluable though), but we're having 
trouble with the moderation because it is ending up in a loop (that 
thankfully stops itself after about 30 iterations) but is nonetheless 
proving to be a big pain.

When a post is received that is held for moderation, an e-mail is sent 
to list-owner, but when that is sent back into mailman for forwarding, 
mailman treats the message as if it was going onto the list and holds it 
(because of the included message that was originally help). This then 
generates another moderation e-mail which is sent to list-owner which is 
then held and so on.

I'm not sure if there is a fundamental failure in my understanding of 
the system of if there's something I've not thought about, but I cannot 
get it to work properly.

I've seen a lot of documentation suggesting that every list should have 
10 aliases in the Exim aliases file for piping into mailman, and -owner 
is included in these, however I think I am right in saying that that 
doesn't apply in this situation because I have configured the Exim 
transport/router as directed to pipe all mail into mailman that hasn't 
been caught by aliases instead.

Can anyone shed any light on this for me?


P.S. The main issue here is that we run SpamAssassin on the mailserver 
and it adds an X-Spam_Bar header which we then check for in the list 
Spam Filters. Before, every single spam e-mail was generating 30 
moderator requests.. now we have told the lists to discard anything with 
an X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it doesn't just stop the loop, it 
prevents all moderator requests reaching the list owner because in the 
end it seems the moderator requests are trying to head for the lists not 
the list owners. It's all very confuzzling.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable / Enable Mailinglist

[David J. Barrus]

I knew there was a simple solution to my problem.  Thank you for responding 
to my request so quickly.

Have a great day,
David


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Suarez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: "'David J. Barrus'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Disable / Enable Mailinglist


> David,
>
> In General Options look for:
>
> Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly 
> recommended
> for most mailing lists.
>
> If this is set to Poster clicking "reply" will put in the original 
> poster's
> address but a "reply all" will include both the poster and the list.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Suarez
> -Original Message-
> From: David J. Barrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:50 AM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Disable / Enable Mailinglist
>
> Is there a way to disable the mailinglist after my client sends out an
> e-mail and then re-enable it when they want to send out another one?
>
> Here's the problem:
> After my client sends out an e-mail through their mailinglist, 
> occasionally
> one or two recipients reply to it and their message goes out to everyone 
> on
> the list.  Maybe I need to change something in the General Options.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thank you,
> David
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