Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread Cyndi Norwitz 
   Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 08:49:30 -0800
   From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   SpamAssassin is much better integrated in the MTA ahead of Mailman, but
   if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point,
   refer them to
   

   and
   
.

Many thanks.  I have passed this along to my ISP.

Cyndi

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing some list headers

2007-12-08 Thread Charles Marcus 
On 12/8/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> OTOH, if you don't care about the List-Post: and List-Archive: 
> headers, then just set General Options->include_rfc2369_headers to
> No.

Bingo... I actually saw that and wondered what it was... now I know... ;)

Thanks! Should be the last question for at least 3 or 4 minutes... :)

Great support here by the way, Mark... much appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread David Gibbs 
Mark Sapiro wrote:
> if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point,
> refer them to
> .

I can endorse this patch ... I've used it for years and it works great.

david


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing some list headers

2007-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Charles Marcus wrote:
>
>All I'm really interested in removing is the Sub, Unsub and Help 
>headers, but this refers to v. 2.0 final, and the headers in question 
>(that I'm interested in) begin on line # 206 instead of 116, so before I 
>do this, I thought I'd ask...
>
>If I wanted to remove these headers do I just comment the following lines?
>
>headers.update({
>'List-Help'   : '' % requestaddr,
>'List-Unsubscribe': subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, 'un'),
>'List-Subscribe'  : subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, ''),
>})


If you want to remove just those 3 and keep the List-Post: and
List-Archive: headers, then yes, comment those lines.

OTOH, if you don't care about the List-Post: and List-Archive: headers,
then just set General Options->include_rfc2369_headers to No.

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[Mailman-Users] Removing some list headers

2007-12-08 Thread Charles Marcus 
Hello again - hopefully you won't get too tired of me before I'm done... :)

While reading on 'Umbrella lists', I ran across a tip to remove some of 
the headers:

**

"2. Edit CookHeaders.py with your favorite editor.

Somewhere around line 116 (in version 2.0 final, at least), you'll see 
where the headers are added.  Simply delete each line.  Be careful not 
to upset the formatting - the indentation is important.

You can safely remove:

  * List-Unsubscribe, List-Subscribe, List-Post, List-ID, List-Help"

**

All I'm really interested in removing is the Sub, Unsub and Help 
headers, but this refers to v. 2.0 final, and the headers in question 
(that I'm interested in) begin on line # 206 instead of 116, so before I 
do this, I thought I'd ask...

If I wanted to remove these headers do I just comment the following lines?

headers.update({
'List-Help'   : '' % requestaddr,
'List-Unsubscribe': subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, 'un'),
'List-Subscribe'  : subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, ''),
})

Everyone subscribed to these lists are employees, and I do not want them 
to be able to sub/unsub or get help...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread Brian Carpenter 
Hi Cyndi:

I have been monitoring your situation. We offer a mailman hosting service
that does not require the client to move their entire hosting to us. Our
mailman clients have access to our mailscanner/spamassassin anti-spam system
for just $2 a month with great success. We have been offering mailman
services now for years and unlike many web hosts out there, we are committed
to supporting our mailman clients and not to ignoring them. Mailman is a
great software and we have enjoyed using and supporting it through the
years.

If you want more information, our mailman page is at
http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html. 

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Cyndi Norwitz wrote:
>
>Well, I'm happy with my ISP and have no plans to move *again*.  But I will
>ask them again if they can do it.  The reply I got from them was: "In the
>future Sonic.net could integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman but that's not
>currently on anyones plate."


SpamAssassin is much better integrated in the MTA ahead of Mailman, but
if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point,
refer them to

and
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Cyndi Norwitz wrote:
>
>Well, I'm happy with my ISP and have no plans to move *again*.  But I will
>ask them again if they can do it.  The reply I got from them was: "In the
>future Sonic.net could integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman but that's not
>currently on anyones plate."


SpamAssassin is much better integrated in the MTA ahead of Mailman, but
if they want to integrate SpamAssassin with Mailman at some point,
refer them to

and
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread Cyndi Norwitz 
   From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 01:53:21 -0600

   I was talking about moving just your mailing lists, not all your ISP  
   services. Of course you could link those two if you want, but there  
   are plenty of mailing list only providers that you could at least  
   check out.

As I said, I am happy with my ISP and have no plans to move my lists again.

If there is no way for me to filter spam, then I will live with it until my
ISP is able to fix the problem.  Every provider has strengths and
weaknesses and I believe it is a poor choice to suddenly switch around
simply because there is one feature missing.  Another provider will have a
different weakness.  And most of them will cost money.  My lists are free
with my account services.

Cyndi

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop spam emails

2007-12-08 Thread Brad Knowles 
I was talking about moving just your mailing lists, not all your ISP  
services. Of course you could link those two if you want, but there  
are plenty of mailing list only providers that you could at least  
check out.

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On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:04 AM, Cyndi Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 00:27:11 -0600
>   From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Mailman doesn't have great tools for this.  Instead, you should
>>   configure your mail server to reject or discard the spam messages
>>   before they ever get to Mailman.
>>
>> Any ideas how to do this when your ISP is hosting Mailman?
>
>   That would be the responsibility of your ISP.  If they're not doing
>   their job, then maybe you might want to find a different provider of
>   this particular service.
>
> Well, I'm happy with my ISP and have no plans to move *again*.  But  
> I will
> ask them again if they can do it.  The reply I got from them was:  
> "In the
> future Sonic.net could integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman but  
> that's not
> currently on anyones plate."
>
> Thanks,
> Cyndi
>
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