[Mailman-Users] Mail are not going out from mailman...
Dear All, One of my list with 6000 users is not sending mail to all the users of a same domain, I search over the logs of postfix and the only error i found is some of the user on the domain are not accepting the mails reply: '550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table\r\n' reply: retcode (550); Msg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table Is it possible that mailman is not sending mails to all the users on the domain or mails are send domain wise so all the mail stuck. Any way i didn't find any thing in the qfiles. Please help me out ... Thanks Nitin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail are not going out from mailman...
Nitin Bhadauria wrote: One of my list with 6000 users is not sending mail to all the users of a same domain, I search over the logs of postfix and the only error i found is some of the user on the domain are not accepting the mails reply: '550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table\r\n' reply: retcode (550); Msg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table And do you see mail being accepted for the users who don't receive it. The most likely cause of this is the recipient domain is accepting the mail and then discarding it as spam (or delivering it to the users' spam or bulk folders). See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9. Is it possible that mailman is not sending mails to all the users on the domain or mails are send domain wise so all the mail stuck. Any way i didn't find any thing in the qfiles. and followed up: When i check the qfiles they are empty but if i restart mailman it start sending all pending mails again is that any where else mailman store pending mails request ... No. As far as the main delivery path is concerned, incoming mail is placed in a queue entry in qfiles/in. That queue entry is picked up by IncomingRunner and is processed through a pipeline of handlers and ultimately queued in qfiles/out for delivery. That entry is picked up by OutgoingRunner which delivers messages with from one to hundreds of recipients via SMTP to your Postfix. At that point (after delivery is complete), it writes the 'post' log entry and the 'smtp' log entry (message-id smtp to list for nnn recips, completed in nn.nnn seconds). When the above log entry is written, the mail has all been passed to Postfix and is no longer in Mailman except for things like archives and digests. If any SMTP errors occur between Mailman and Postfix, they are logged in 'smtp-failure' and if retryable, the message with the failed recipient list is queued in qfiles/retry where it will be picked up by RetryRunner and requed in qfiles/out after a delay. If there are no files in qfiles/in/, qfiles/out/ or qfiles/retry, Mailman is done with message delivery, and it's all in Postfix. Restarting Mailman can't affect that message unless it is being processed by a runner at the time of restart in which case, there may be a .bak file in a queue which will be reprocessed when Mailman restarts. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Formatting the html inside of article.html
Hey, I'm not sure exactly what and how the escape sequences are getting processed when generating an archived article out of article.html. I want to have something like this as the end result: Reply To: B%(author_html)s/BA HREF=mailto:%(email_url)s?Subject=RE: %(subject_url)s... The key is the Colon-Space after RE . Normally I would escape that %58%20 but the system is trying to process my %58% or something like that. What would be the proper way to escape the Colon-Space in there? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the html inside of article.html
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Hey, I'm not sure exactly what and how the escape sequences are getting processed when generating an archived article out of article.html. I want to have something like this as the end result: Reply To: B%(author_html)s/BA HREF=mailto:%(email_url)s?Subject=RE: %(subject_url)s... The key is the Colon-Space after RE . Normally I would escape that %58%20 but the system is trying to process my %58% or something like that. What would be the proper way to escape the Colon-Space in there? The '%' character is the leadin for interpolation in templates. Thus if you want a literal % in a template, you have to double it - %%58%%20. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Post by non-member to a members-only list
Hello all, I'm getting this message but yet the person posting IS a member. Any ideas? Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list Bryon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Spam Problem
I seem to be getting spam sent through mailman I have the following lists setup LIPHP ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and mailman mailman shouldnt actually be sending any where The MTA is exim4 something sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] is being accepted and looks like sending some spam through it. I dont believe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is doing this. Can anyone help me?? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman
=3d is the escape code for a =. That is direct HTML as translated. Regular HTML was used, so that part you were incorrect. However... You were right on the money about the footer! Wow, that did it. Thank you. What do you mean full personalization? I don't know what you are referring to? On 10/4/08 11:41 PM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two problems: 1. You have image(s) sent in the email. They ideally are better sourced to a server. (It also make the email smaller and transmits faster.) 2. You are adding a footer to a mime message. That will quite often create havoc with the message. Make the footer part of the standard HTML coding, and you should be fine. See http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030707 Also, whatever you are using to create the HTML code is creating errors. div align=3Dcenterfont face=3DVerdana size=3D1lt;lt;please forwardgt;gt;/font Get something that makes the code directly, and does not add all the 3D and change your and codes, as a start. I aways recommend to use full personalization, too, in Mailman. Without it the bounce processing does not work as well. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce
I am using the cPanel version of Mailman, as someone pointed out earlier. This is at my webhost, and I do not have such access to those logs. What cPanel does give me is a graphical user interface. It shows that bogus user that I subscribed manually as having the status of nomail (Reason [b]) which I assume to mean bounce. It would have to be a hard bounce, as it was a non-existent email address. A screen shot of that interface as mentioned, is here: http://www.lambdaent.com/pub/mailman/membership.jpg On 10/4/08 11:49 PM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do the bounce logs say about that user? Did the bounce register? Not all hard or soft bounces can be determined. I actually scan my mail logs for hard bounces and delete them even faster than Mailman would. - Original Message - From: Edward Salm, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users@python.org mailman-users@python.org Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:19:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce bounce_score_threshold = 1.0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0 It's been 24 hours and the bogus user is still there. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman
The email programs that sent the mail both Apple Mail and Thunderbird, so it appears that Microsoft is not the only culprit. I would have assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that Thunderbird uses standards. I have just contacted my webhost, hostforweb.com, regarding the Personalization option, as well as cron/disbaled. We're getting closer! On 10/5/08 3:21 AM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outlook and Outlook Express adds the translating, but most other email clients do not. As to Personalization: Look at Non-Digest Options, the second option should be: Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery? This is often useful for announce-only lists, but read the details section for a discussion of important performance issues. (Details for personalize) No Yes Full Personalization Full Personalization is preferred if you want to track, as that uses full VERP. Note: Some hosts do not have that option enabled. Many will enable it if you ask. It is a simple configuration change that takes seconds to do. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman
Thanks to everyone. All problems solved. That is, after I sent the message and found out my host had a 500/hour limit. *(@*(#[EMAIL PROTECTED] They raised it temporarily, and it was just sent. Whew. This was my first time working with mailman. It was a little quirky, but everything worked out. Again, thanks for your patience and diligence. -- Edward Salm, PhD Lambda Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LambdaEnt.com 213 483 4800 [Personhole] is not an acceptable de-sexed word. -- Shirley Dean, councilperson, Berkeley (CA) City Council, explaining why the Council changed the wording in a sewer equipment request back to manhole cover. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Post by non-member to a members-only list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting this message but yet the person posting IS a member. Any ideas? Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list They must be posting to the list from a different address than the one they are subscribed as. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Problem
Donald J. Organ IV wrote: I seem to be getting spam sent through mailman I have the following lists setup LIPHP ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and mailman mailman shouldnt actually be sending any where The MTA is exim4 something sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] is being accepted and looks like sending some spam through it. I dont believe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is doing this. Can anyone help me?? Not without more information. Can you post the complete headers from one of the spam messages. Then perhaps we can see where the mail is coming from. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Digest members
I know it must be somewhere in the wiki but have yet to find it and google went everywhere else. I have a long list of both regular and digest members how can I mass subscribe the digest members or even better both combined? Mel -- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446Linux 2.6.20 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscribe Digest members
Mel Sojka wrote: I know it must be somewhere in the wiki but have yet to find it and google went everywhere else. I have a long list of both regular and digest members how can I mass subscribe the digest members or even better both combined? If you have command line access, use bin/add_members. Through the web you need to first set Digest options - digest_is_default to Digest and then mass subscribe the digest members. Then set Digest options - digest_is_default back to Regular and mass subscribe the regular members. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Post by non-member to a members-only list
In a flurry of recycled electrons, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting this message but yet the person posting IS a member. Any ideas? Did it ever work for them? Has their email address changed recently? AFAIK If they're subscribed receiving mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the server is sending the mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED], it'll be rejected. (I ran into this myself a few years ago.) z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the html inside of article.html
The '%' character is the leadin for interpolation in templates. Thus if you want a literal % in a template, you have to double it - %%58%%20. Thanks, that's very helpful - Next question - I am looking at the In-Reply-To= of the email url. I know you said this was a bug fixed in 2.1.10, however, due to selinux messing around with the apache and mailman users' processes, I spent about a day or two trying to build my own mailman unsuccessfully. I reverted to 2.1.9 from rpm (on centos 5.1). Which is the latest released rpm build. I am hoping the bug fix is really easy, like change line 202 in pipermai.py from self._in_reply_to = message['in-reply-to'] to blahblahblah ... I am familiar with svn, but not bzr ... I'm hoping I don't need to learn bzr for this... But I'll do that if it's the only way... By any chance, can you tell me a simple change, to fix the In-Reply-To problem? Thanks again... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the html inside of article.html
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I am looking at the In-Reply-To= of the email url. I know you said this was a bug fixed in 2.1.10, however, due to selinux messing around with the apache and mailman users' processes, I spent about a day or two trying to build my own mailman unsuccessfully. I reverted to 2.1.9 from rpm (on centos 5.1). Which is the latest released rpm build. I am hoping the bug fix is really easy, like change line 202 in pipermai.py from self._in_reply_to = message['in-reply-to'] to blahblahblah ... I am familiar with svn, but not bzr ... I'm hoping I don't need to learn bzr for this... But I'll do that if it's the only way... By any chance, can you tell me a simple change, to fix the In-Reply-To problem? Yes, it's very simple. See http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1017. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Developers Guide?
It took me a long time to figure out that Mailman's 'virgin' directory was for messages that Mailman created itself. Is stuff like this documented somewhere? Is there a developer's guide to Mailman out there? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the html inside of article.html
By any chance, can you tell me a simple change, to fix the In-Reply-To problem? Yes, it's very simple. See http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman- coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1017. Awesome. You're the best. :-) And I'm glad to see the other bugfix in there too, addition of Re: because that's exactly what I just did myself over here. :-) I don't know if this is something you'd like to include, but here's another thing I just did: Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py: Approx Line 473: emailurl = self.email d[author_html] = self.quote(author) d[email_url] = url_quote(emailurl) +d[list_email_html] = self.quote(self._mlist.GetListEmail()) +d[list_email_url] = url_quote(self._mlist.GetListEmail()) d[datestr_html] = self.quote(i18n.ctime(int(self.date))) d[body] = self._get_body() d['listurl'] = self._mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo', absolute=1) templates/en/article.html Approx Line 12: /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#ff H1%(subject_html)s/H1 -B%(author_html)s/B +Reply To: B%(author_html)s/B A HREF=mailto:%(email_url)s?Subject=%(subject_url)sIn-Reply-To=%(in_reply_to _url)s TITLE=%(subject_html)s%(email_html)s /ABR +Reply To: B%(listname)s/B +A HREF=mailto:%(list_email_url)s?Subject=%(subject_url)sIn-Reply-To=%(in_rep ly_to_url)s + TITLE=%(subject_html)s%(list_email_html)s + /ABR I%(datestr_html)s/I PUL -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Developers Guide?
Kelly Jones wrote: It took me a long time to figure out that Mailman's 'virgin' directory was for messages that Mailman created itself. Is stuff like this documented somewhere? Is there a developer's guide to Mailman out there? UTSL There's really nothing beyond that. Mailman 3 will be better. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and SMS
Hello, Is there a way to thin down Mailman to work nicely with SMS? I would like to set up a system similar to Twitter. Has anyone done this at all? I know it is a stretch for Mailman. Also other middle-ware software is needed for the web-app part. It is very important that all web pages be totally customizable, and mobile screen friendly, and also that all text message text be very short and also totally customizable. It seems that Mailman only allows some customizations. It is also very important that updates (via apt-get for example) work without killing the customizations. Please let me know your thoughts about it. Thanks! Rick -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Green Mountain Network, and is believed to be clean. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SMS
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Rick Bragg wrote: It is very important that all web pages be totally customizable, and mobile screen friendly, and also that all text message text be very short and also totally customizable. They are all customizable, provided that you don't mind hacking the python code that generates many of them. Not a project for the faint- hearted, IMHO. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SMS
Carl Zwanzig wrote: In a flurry of recycled electrons, Rick Bragg wrote: It is very important that all web pages be totally customizable, and mobile screen friendly, and also that all text message text be very short and also totally customizable. They are all customizable, provided that you don't mind hacking the python code that generates many of them. Not a project for the faint- hearted, IMHO. But only template customizations survive package upgrades. The situation will improve in Mailman 3. Actually, it was intended that the main thrust of Mailman 2.2 be an improved web UI, but that part of 2.2 appears stalled at the moment. This thread would probably fit better on mailman-developers http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SMS
Rick Bragg wrote: Is there a way to thin down Mailman to work nicely with SMS? I would like to set up a system similar to Twitter. Has anyone done this at all? Your biggest problem here is not Mailman. Your biggest problem is that all mail-to-SMS gateways that are in operation, especially including the official gateways that are operated by the carriers, literally throw away billions and billions of SMS messages per day, simply because they're overloaded -- too much spam. The highest level of service that the carriers provide regarding SMS messages are those messages which are sent from one handset to another. And even there they toss away billions and billions of SMS messages per day. So, do you really want to be shouting into hurricane force winds? Solve the back-end SMS problems on the carriers, and then you can worry about whether it makes sense to try to do any of the rest. Otherwise, why bother? -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9